It's like D8 daypost is "Congratz town, you just lynched 4 mafia in a row but you just lost because mafia got too much kp in the start"
Try lynching 4/5 mafia in a row at the fucking start of the game -> max. KP reduction. And still lose with only 3 (?) mislynches to a joined mafia/3rd party victory that is IMPOSSIBLE according to the rules.
So my holiday was going okay until this weekend when I got shafted with back to back 16 hour shifts because my co-workers are tools. I normally play when I'm at work but on a tablet and I had/have 0 motivation to stare at a screen, mostly because these shifts had 8 hours in between them and 2 were spent commuting to and from work. Twice. So I feel like dying.
I'm gonna try to catch up but not making any promises. I might just be tempted to read filters of people I've played with before. Idk. 40+ pages seems overwhelming for halfway through a day phase. How much of it is spam? =/
On December 28 2015 03:47 N e s s wrote: WHY i thought voting moose is idiotic because there was nothing to go off of from it.
Honestly why can't people realize that, come the hell on people! You realize that we were voting for someone with no reason to.
THATS why i was keen on not understanding why people were voting for him. I know that RVS means Random voting stage, but come on. I don't even use RVS that often.
I don't know who moosey is, but I was able to figure out that it was a policy lynch joke vote. They were talking about it pre game. I don't see why you shouldn't have been able to figure that out as well. If you were reading the thread. Quite honestly I think you aren't reading the thread, and to make up for that you are yelling a bunch.
Also fuck off HF with your holier than thou bullshit. I can expect people to read the thread, or be treated poorly for not doing so.
Please don't talk to me in that regard I am a human being with feelings and will not be treated with such disrespect because you have some mental problem where you need to insult people. I am truly sorry for your aggression problems. Ness didn't even know the game had started and was wondering why people were voting Moosy even then it's not hard to expect he didn't know what was happening at the start too.
Lol if the thread is already devolving into this kind of interactions, I'm not sure I want to fully catch up...
Honestly I'm probably going to lose my mind reading everything so I'm just going to post random things I pick up on. Reading filters intermittently while fighting off a headache. I've read GB so far because familiar names are familiar.
On December 28 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote: If you're town and know you're never going to read this game gtfo.
If you're mafia just wait until i lynch you thats okay too
And now I agree with you HF, Vivax might be the best lynch today
You thought you might be tunneled on Ness and decided to reevaluate at a later time. Now you're sheeping HF. Does this mean you're dropping your News read? Because you're voting together.
Actually I'm probably going to read everyone voting Vivax before the end of the night, hopefully. He's the lead wagon and there's some time to figure out if its scum pushing a ML, or if Vivax is actually scum.
Wait, maybe I should read Vivax first...meh, one way or the other, ill read em all.
I'm caught up-ish? But I'm really tired and work is dragging so I'm not sure how much registered. I skimmed thru Ness filter before my headache got the best of me. I'm going to get a good nights sleep when I get home later and probably break my Monday/Tuesday no-play meta tomorrow to finish filters and be around for EoD. I'm *kinda* here for the next half hour.
On December 28 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let me get this straight:
HF and Ness both think my interpretation of GB's posts is not correct. Regardless of why i think what i do (either i am mafia or missing something) GB does not correct me. In the case on HF and Ness being right, GB not correcting me should mean GB HAS TO BE MAFIA for them, there is literally no other explanation since there should be zero reason for GB to let me say stuff that is just --- incorrect and he 100% knows it.
Neither of them is voting for GB....
Oh! Silliness, i love it!
Smh i'm not going to vote for GB, because while i have a gut feeling of him being mafia, theres nothing to support it yet :p
On December 28 2015 02:48 N e s s wrote: eh, rayn say whatever about me, atleast i know you're really, really wrong about everything
well said. about a guy who shares at least 2 of your scumreads.
smh what you say about me doesn't make any sense, 2 scum reads? What does that even fucking mean?
@glowbear
i don't know what to think about you, but i'm leaning towards town. The way you've been on me and asking questions is fine, and all of your posts have a meaning behind it.
Posts are in order. #959 and #1021. Ness, how serious was that gutread that you admitted had nothing to support it? What exactly gave you that gutread? Becuz post 1021 is a big change in town from scum gutread to town lean because of your interaction with GB. IMO GB didn't do anything outstanding in between these posts.
On December 28 2015 05:55 The Shining wrote: Honestly I'm probably going to lose my mind reading everything so I'm just going to post random things I pick up on. Reading filters intermittently while fighting off a headache. I've read GB so far because familiar names are familiar.
On December 28 2015 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 28 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote: If you're town and know you're never going to read this game gtfo.
If you're mafia just wait until i lynch you thats okay too
And now I agree with you HF, Vivax might be the best lynch today
You thought you might be tunneled on Ness and decided to reevaluate at a later time. Now you're sheeping HF. Does this mean you're dropping your News read? Because you're voting together.
I'll go read Ness next.
ROFL I've just realised that. How am I supposed to not scum read the guy when he says both Exo an Tictock are Mafia (and have said Sicklucker and me also were before), then proceeds to vote Vivax ROFL it is beyond me
Yeah see I had my questions about this too but idk. Hesitance to lynch a 6 page filter on d1 on a first time TLer, experienced or not, is the best I can come up with for why he might be town. I also wasn't a fan of the martyring.
Also, my understanding of his Vivax vote is its pressure to get Vivax to defend himself, I think he said he'd switch to TT the moment Vivax gave any sort of credible defense. But that could be scum motivated, too. It's shitty but voting someone while already having your next lynch lined up if the first vote defends himself(or if the wagon shenannies?) Feels a bit off this early. I'm interested in seeing if Ness's read on TT will progress from there.
Gonna go read Vivax and TT now. But I might not get done before getting home.
On December 28 2015 12:32 The Shining wrote: I'm caught up-ish? But I'm really tired and work is dragging so I'm not sure how much registered. I skimmed thru Ness filter before my headache got the best of me. I'm going to get a good nights sleep when I get home later and probably break my Monday/Tuesday no-play meta tomorrow to finish filters and be around for EoD. I'm *kinda* here for the next half hour.
On December 28 2015 02:12 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let me get this straight:
HF and Ness both think my interpretation of GB's posts is not correct. Regardless of why i think what i do (either i am mafia or missing something) GB does not correct me. In the case on HF and Ness being right, GB not correcting me should mean GB HAS TO BE MAFIA for them, there is literally no other explanation since there should be zero reason for GB to let me say stuff that is just --- incorrect and he 100% knows it.
Smh i'm not going to vote for GB, because while i have a gut feeling of him being mafia, theres nothing to support it yet :p
On December 28 2015 02:54 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:48 N e s s wrote: eh, rayn say whatever about me, atleast i know you're really, really wrong about everything
well said. about a guy who shares at least 2 of your scumreads.
smh what you say about me doesn't make any sense, 2 scum reads? What does that even fucking mean?
@glowbear
i don't know what to think about you, but i'm leaning towards town. The way you've been on me and asking questions is fine, and all of your posts have a meaning behind it.
Posts are in order. #959 and #1021. Ness, how serious was that gutread that you admitted had nothing to support it? What exactly gave you that gutread? Becuz post 1021 is a big change in town from scum gutread to town lean because of your interaction with GB. IMO GB didn't do anything outstanding in between these posts.
and that makes him what?
also why did you choose to read ness's filter?
Phone post. This, coupled with my other post replying to GB, makes me inclined to lean scum but I already mentioned in my other post that his activity with so many lurkers makes me hesitate. That's why I want to see his response.
I picked Ness because I just caught up. I randomly picked GBs filter to read first because I've played with GB before, saw his interactions with Ness and him scumming Ness then saying he might be tunneled, noticed they were voting together when I checked the voting thread. So I wanted to see Ness read on a GB that was scumming him but that he voted with.
On December 28 2015 12:32 The Shining wrote: I'm caught up-ish? But I'm really tired and work is dragging so I'm not sure how much registered. I skimmed thru Ness filter before my headache got the best of me. I'm going to get a good nights sleep when I get home later and probably break my Monday/Tuesday no-play meta tomorrow to finish filters and be around for EoD. I'm *kinda* here for the next half hour.
On December 28 2015 02:12 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let me get this straight:
HF and Ness both think my interpretation of GB's posts is not correct. Regardless of why i think what i do (either i am mafia or missing something) GB does not correct me. In the case on HF and Ness being right, GB not correcting me should mean GB HAS TO BE MAFIA for them, there is literally no other explanation since there should be zero reason for GB to let me say stuff that is just --- incorrect and he 100% knows it.
Smh i'm not going to vote for GB, because while i have a gut feeling of him being mafia, theres nothing to support it yet :p
On December 28 2015 02:54 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:48 N e s s wrote: eh, rayn say whatever about me, atleast i know you're really, really wrong about everything
well said. about a guy who shares at least 2 of your scumreads.
smh what you say about me doesn't make any sense, 2 scum reads? What does that even fucking mean?
@glowbear
i don't know what to think about you, but i'm leaning towards town. The way you've been on me and asking questions is fine, and all of your posts have a meaning behind it.
Posts are in order. #959 and #1021. Ness, how serious was that gutread that you admitted had nothing to support it? What exactly gave you that gutread? Becuz post 1021 is a big change in town from scum gutread to town lean because of your interaction with GB. IMO GB didn't do anything outstanding in between these posts.
and that makes him what?
also why did you choose to read ness's filter?
Phone post. This, coupled with my other post replying to GB, makes me inclined to lean scum but I already mentioned in my other post that his activity with so many lurkers makes me hesitate. That's why I want to see his response.
I picked Ness because I just caught up. I randomly picked GBs filter to read first because I've played with GB before, saw his interactions with Ness and him scumming Ness then saying he might be tunneled, noticed they were voting together when I checked the voting thread. So I wanted to see Ness read on a GB that was scumming him but that he voted with.
This is all in my 5 post filter btw =/
so do you think he is scummy or null as of now without his response? and what exactly gives you pause regarding lurkers?
i can understand that, but why i guess my question was more of why ness before someone in threat of being lynched?
Null right now. I want to interact with him without risking him tilting or martyring again if he is town before I lean other way. Im trying to give him benefit of the doubt because getting accustomed to TL can be hard.
Honestly, it's a selfish reason. I like to get my questions answered first because my last few games, I've been catching things that help me figure out alignments. But Vivax is who I'm reading when I get home, followed by TT, for exactly that reason(threat of being lynched)
On December 29 2015 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ##Vote Raynpelikoneet Clearly misrepresenting Vivax.
what in the fuck?
Wasn't rayn the one who started the TT wagon? Iirc I've seen multiple people mentioning sheeping rayn.
So why is Rayn now off of his own wagon and voting Vivax instead? Like I honestly can't tell if Vivax is actually JK or trolling but his wording for the unclaim seems more like just trying to piss off rayn. But why is rayn ignoring his main wagon(which is now leading) to get off of it and vote Vivax?
On December 29 2015 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ##Vote Raynpelikoneet Clearly misrepresenting Vivax.
what in the fuck?
Wasn't rayn the one who started the TT wagon? Iirc I've seen multiple people mentioning sheeping rayn.
So why is Rayn now off of his own wagon and voting Vivax instead? Like I honestly can't tell if Vivax is actually JK or trolling but his wording for the unclaim seems more like just trying to piss off rayn. But why is rayn ignoring his main wagon(which is now leading) to get off of it and vote Vivax?
Rayn explain?
I doubt hes mafia given his engagement, he's known to lynch whatever rustles his jimmies first and mafia later
On December 29 2015 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ##Vote Raynpelikoneet Clearly misrepresenting Vivax.
what in the fuck?
Wasn't rayn the one who started the TT wagon? Iirc I've seen multiple people mentioning sheeping rayn.
So why is Rayn now off of his own wagon and voting Vivax instead? Like I honestly can't tell if Vivax is actually JK or trolling but his wording for the unclaim seems more like just trying to piss off rayn. But why is rayn ignoring his main wagon(which is now leading) to get off of it and vote Vivax?
Rayn explain?
let me explain before the stampede comes your way.
Rayn hates stupid things, Vivax did a stupid thing. Something he thinks I scum lockable. Vivax did thing, rayn does his thing.
Meh. This is actually what I'm used to from town rayn, too, I just wasn't sure if I was right or not because the game I'm basing it off of, I was scum(Drams) so I wasn't paying as much attention as I normally would.
Sidenote, I just checked Ness again. Really no appearance after the fighting and martyring, eh? I just wanted some answers =/ As for TT, a lot of the posts he made are easy to make and lazy. A few unexplained/one-liner reads have me wondering if he is in fact suffering from scum burn out. Different player/game but I did catch FF on back to back scum games for that same reason so it's a plausible thing, depending on the player, I guess. But TT's filter just makes me want to read Rayn's case now.
Can someone with more experience with Vivax and HF answer something for me? I've played VS HF scum once(and lost) and against Vivax scum once(he rolled over and died doing nothing but town still lost later cuz HAX). With them taunting eachother, Vivax seems to not be rolling over, which isn't what I've seen from him as scum. Especially this early, I tend to chalk up these long drawn out 1v1s and town v towns when no one draws any interference, or jumps on either side.
So who is pro-Vivax, who is pro-HF and who thinks they're both town?
Also, TT is okay with voting Ness which gives me pause because I know why I was willing to lynch Ness if I don't get my answer but in TT's whole filter, I can't figure out why he'd lynch Ness other than questions that Ness has posed but not used to further reads. Which is one of my problems with Ness but that's literally his only reason why. Well, that and he has 3 posts he quoted from Ness for why he'd lynch him, but he doesn't explain WHAT about those 3 posts make Ness scum.
On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote: And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad.
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote: To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.
goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)
2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.
goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.
question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)
1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence* Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct
Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else.
The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate.
The situation would go as follows:
As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White".
Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat.
Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".
^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with
Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username.
But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?
To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.) I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm.
Much more important than who is town
Who is Mafia?
Choose one person with not much to go off of? Sicklucker, just because. That or whoever seems scummiest rn i don't care enough to do anything
On December 29 2015 05:15 Vivax wrote: Cool post there Shining, I'm unscumreading you for the moment
I was feeling the opposite. Please explain.
Can you explain what you don't like about it? What are your thoughts on them then? They've both had eachother as scum pretty early this phase, to the point where Vivax had to claim(or fakeclaim?) to deflect and HF is still taunting to get Vivax lynched. The only other option would be a double bus and I think that's not impossible, but unlikely at this point.
Also, statistically, if I read the OP correctly, there's 5 scum/20 town. There's only a 20% chance of us flipping scum D1 objectively, right? So while I go read rayn's case on TT finally to feel better about this 20%, I will point out that he's also an outlier vote, which I always hate. So is BF, Onegu, Kush/Noonian. Why is TT worse than these 3?
On December 29 2015 05:15 Vivax wrote: Cool post there Shining, I'm unscumreading you for the moment
I was feeling the opposite. Please explain.
Can you explain what you don't like about it? What are your thoughts on them then? They've both had eachother as scum pretty early this phase, to the point where Vivax had to claim(or fakeclaim?) to deflect and HF is still taunting to get Vivax lynched. The only other option would be a double bus and I think that's not impossible, but unlikely at this point.
I said i was "feeling" the opposite. Meaning feels not logic was behind me not liking the post. I'll try though. Nothing strikes me as townie about your post. You come to the thread and you poll everyone on their opinion on something that is currently IMO irrelevant. It strikes me as scum trying to come up with suitable activity rather than a townie trying to find scum.
Because from what I see, HF vs Vivax has come up multiple times during this day phase and it was relevant before Vivax pulled his claim/unclaim thing. And was still being talked about. Having everyone take a stance would allow the thread to finally move on from it instead of it shitting up the thread forever and ever until one or both are lynched/shot/w.e. And since it seems like it's pretty quiet 2 hours before the lynch, and TT has a decent lead in votes, why not talk about other interactions?
And you've expressed not wanting to lynch TT and just called the case on him shite. So what makes TT town? And yes, you're not wrong, which is why I said it gave me pause. Because imo they both can't be scum. But neither one is here for me to hash out my reads on them so what else can I do? Read the case on TT(I don't remember seeing on on Ness) and deciding whether it's accurate or not. Like, I see scummy things from both of them. But one being willing to lynch the other means that they're probably not scum together. If you're against the TT lynch, why aren't you finding scum anywhere else? You're voting Slam, by yourself. Because of this:
On December 29 2015 00:46 nooniansoong wrote: My vote on palmar is definitely bad now that he has showed up, but I don't know who to change it to yet. Alaka for now.
Do you have a read on Vivax? An opinion on the claim/unclaim? I couldn't find anything in your filter about it since. Did you get your answers from HF regarding the inconsistencies about his read on you and TT? Or are you content to waste a vote, continue saying you're against the TT lynch and do nothing about it so you can say I told you so if he flips town?
EPT
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