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On December 29 2015 03:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF I think GB's scumread on you is nonsensical but I don't think it makes him scum.
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I sorta agree with art I can see town GB acting this dumb over nai things.
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HF, you probably want to look at Vivax more than GB.
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On December 29 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
And yes I still think my piece on Kush is good and it didn't get traction so I decided to back off a bit and observe some more to either confirm or deny my theory. I was hesitant to vote TickTock at that time because my ego is quite large and if Kush was TMI-ing on TT then it would be a redundant vote. People didn't like it so my ego wavered and Rayn posted his case and I agreed with it and remembered the TT catch up and so my mind decided to push my ego out of the way for a bit and sheep a good case.
Now that you have been destroyed, good day to you.
You didn't destroy me, you've just twisted every single argument I've wrote so you can throw it against me.
Fits your job pretty well
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On December 29 2015 03:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
And yes I still think my piece on Kush is good and it didn't get traction so I decided to back off a bit and observe some more to either confirm or deny my theory. I was hesitant to vote TickTock at that time because my ego is quite large and if Kush was TMI-ing on TT then it would be a redundant vote. People didn't like it so my ego wavered and Rayn posted his case and I agreed with it and remembered the TT catch up and so my mind decided to push my ego out of the way for a bit and sheep a good case.
Now that you have been destroyed, good day to you. You didn't destroy me, you've just twisted every single argument I've wrote so you can throw it against me.
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On December 29 2015 03:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:45 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 03:43 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:42 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 03:39 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:37 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 03:30 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 29 2015 03:22 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:19 Damdred wrote:
Tbh what hf says makes a lot of sense here its not shit and it does show a interesting thing.
GB tell me when did you first suspect hf Right now, after seeing him throwing suspicions everywhere (GB might be mafia, Ness might be mafia), and the more I think of it the more things fits (his push on kush, his reluctancy from not lynching Tictock and keeping on Vivax) He asked when you first started to. Was it literally when he posted his case on you? I was iffy when he started pushing kush, but it was basically when he called me and Ness scum, especially when he calls me scum when I ask a question on Palmar. It was clear he was throwing suspicions everywhere And have you asked me why I think those people are suspicious? I have a thought process of "People that think that Vivax wasn't a good lynch or were behaving weird around Vivax" -Alakaslam - weird ness interaction and then weird Vivax reaction - Ness - weird as fuck posts all game and he posted something really weird about Vivax "I'll unvote him when he defends himself" <-- I almost instantly changed my mind based solely on his filter length which is probably a mistake but then I got lazy and didn't check his filter in his off site game - GB - just shit and afk for a while and then comes back and posts that trash about how did palmar know about coag and rsoultin when palmar already linked his source for info - gb's filter is like 3 full pages of one liner questions saying nothing and when I remembered his earlier interactions with ness and how he just copied my questions it added up to mafia-ish, now combined with my slam dunk case which you guys seem to dislike for no reason he's pretty definitely mafia ^ there is the combined reasoning for the brief section of time ROFL I COPIED YOUR QUESTIONS??? I WAS THE FUCKING FIRST ONE TO SUSPECT HIM And look how your logic of me being mafia because I have no reason to mafia read those people is bypassed to the view of your self defence. It's silly, I am disproving your flawed logic of me being mafia and you're twisting it to make me mafia. I didn't understand what you meant here Right now, after seeing him throwing suspicions everywhere (GB might be mafia, Ness might be mafia), and the more I think of it the more things fits (his push on kush, his reluctancy from not lynching Tictock and keeping on Vivax) This has been completely disproved because I had a thought process for each of these people being mafia that revolved around the thought process that Vivax was a town JK and so your accusations become baseless since I am not throwing around calling people mafia everywhere for no reason. If you call a case a good case and the second wagon mafia, why not going against the second wagon, try to interact with him, re read his filter, instead of pushing a lot of other people that are most likely town (IMO)? That's exactly what you're doing right now. Instead of going against a case you called good, you're going after me right after I came back to the thread, reluctant to go against Tictock AGAIN.
Because Ticktock has not been present a single time that I have been present, keep trying. Yet again, like I already explained and you KNOW to be true I have a massive ego and want to lynch who I want to lynch. Your return was bad and your accusation worse, I still feel my case is a slam dunk and you are mafia but I don't discriminate between mafia wagons other than my own preference to pander to my own ego hence preferring to lynch you.
It's as if you've never played in a game with me GB, what's going on in that small mafia world of yours?
I'll just set the record straight, I do not care if we lynch you or TT because I believe you both to be mafia with a bit more certainty of you being mafia.
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On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments.
So that would only make HF mafia if TicTock is scum right?
Because otherwise he is refusing to vote for a townie -- which is not scummy.
I am not going to check rn if your story stands up or not, because i don't think that makes HF mafia even if it does. I think you are exaggerrating the "reluctant to lynch" thing.
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On December 29 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
I sorta agree with art I can see town GB acting this dumb over nai things.
I hate this. It's always this "GB you're dumb", "GB your argument doesn't make sense", then the guy flips mafia.
You guys just don't want to lynch Holyflare because he is Holyflare.
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On December 29 2015 03:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
And yes I still think my piece on Kush is good and it didn't get traction so I decided to back off a bit and observe some more to either confirm or deny my theory. I was hesitant to vote TickTock at that time because my ego is quite large and if Kush was TMI-ing on TT then it would be a redundant vote. People didn't like it so my ego wavered and Rayn posted his case and I agreed with it and remembered the TT catch up and so my mind decided to push my ego out of the way for a bit and sheep a good case.
Now that you have been destroyed, good day to you. You didn't destroy me, you've just twisted every single argument I've wrote so you can throw it against me. Fits your job pretty well
Please, please, please break down my arguments and my reasoning and thought process and explain how I've twisted this. You laid out points on why I am mafia and I've explained them FULLY with all the reasoning and logic behind it and outlined my entire thought process.
You can ignore the case on you I'm solely talking about your case on me.
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Maybe sheeping rayn and making sense tonight is what I should do.
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On December 29 2015 03:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So your main case on him is association based on TT being mafia. TT has a lot of votes. HF had none. Why did you vote HF instead of TT?
Maybe you are town after all. 
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Sheeping rayn is absolutely the right practice.
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On December 29 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
I sorta agree with art I can see town GB acting this dumb over nai things. I hate this. It's always this "GB you're dumb", "GB your argument doesn't make sense", then the guy flips mafia. You guys just don't want to lynch Holyflare because he is Holyflare.
Can you confidently say that HF is more likely mafia than TT?
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On December 29 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
I sorta agree with art I can see town GB acting this dumb over nai things. I hate this. It's always this "GB you're dumb", "GB your argument doesn't make sense", then the guy flips mafia. You guys just don't want to lynch Holyflare because he is Holyflare.
His last two games:
[M][N] OT vs The Mods Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1
[N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
I don't think that flies anymore. If everyone, including your buddy Rayn says your argumentation is poor, you may want to reconsider it. It's very possible that you're right that HF is scum, but if he is, what you laid out isn't why.
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wow people are making sense lately. Xcept HF and GB.
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On December 29 2015 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So that would only make HF mafia if TicTock is scum right? Because otherwise he is refusing to vote for a townie -- which is not scummy. I am not going to check rn if your story stands up or not, because i don't think that makes HF mafia even if it does. I think you are exaggerrating the "reluctant to lynch" thing.
On December 29 2015 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 29 2015 03:33 Vivax wrote:
Time to play a bit with HF:
Im not actually JK Oh boy, here we go On December 29 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 29 2015 03:32 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So your main case on him is association based on TT being mafia. TT has a lot of votes. HF had none. Why did you vote HF instead of TT? It's not actually based on association. If someone calls a case "good" and that "that player might be mafia", but refuses to go on it and starts throwing suspicions everywhere by twisting arguments and going against NAI things, it doesn't fit a town perspective. Why would a townie behave this way? Why would a mafia behave that way if TT is town? It would make it NAI. TT might be mafia, and he has a very good shot at being mafia. I don't know why would a mafia behave like that if TT is town. IF TT is town. I don't know if he is, so I can't say how a mafia would behave now. I can, however, work with the facts in the thread, and I don't see a townie behaving the way I described HF is. Let me get this straight if TT is town, you don't understand HF's behaviour as either alignment. if TT is mafia, you think it strongly implicates HF. Regardless, you believe the chance of TT being mafia is lower than that of HF being mafia. Am I correct? No Artanis, my logic is: if I see a behaviour that doesn't fits any town perspective, the said person is mafia. I didn't think of it more than this
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If only Chelsea would make a goal :/
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On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?
How can you not know the answer to this when the argument That followed was literally about the very source of my info
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On December 29 2015 03:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
When is deadline? Who do I vote for?
On December 29 2015 03:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
When is deadline? Who do I vote for?
You vote for TicTock.
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On December 29 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
I sorta agree with art I can see town GB acting this dumb over nai things. I hate this. It's always this "GB you're dumb", "GB your argument doesn't make sense", then the guy flips mafia. You guys just don't want to lynch Holyflare because he is Holyflare.
except the 50 games you tunneled me into the ground when 'm town. or countless other times.
The simple thing is that your argument 1) is nonsensical to a point 2) doesn't make HolyFlare scum.
He would 100% do all of the things you are accusing him of as town or as scum I am convinced of that, if he is scum it would have to be more than didn't want to go on tt when hes voting vivax.
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