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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On December 28 2015 15:29 Trfel wrote: Looks like I'm in for a very late night. As of 30 pages ago, my reads were far too similar to sicklucker's for my liking, it seems like something is very wrong. Any particular reason why or is the fact that they're similar the thing that's bugging you in and of itself? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 27 2015 08:51 Tictock wrote: Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote? Personally, I could Like is this a joke or is it serious? Normally I just assume this is 100% a joke, but GB is one of those assholes who would claim scum as scum or claim cop as cop just to dick around. He would also do both as VT for the same reason. So it very well could be him using some meta and taking it actually serious. And if it is not serious then it isn't really funny and it is a shitty joke...shitty jokes actually tend more toward scum. On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote: Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around. Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open. No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. Bold #1: Firstly I just disagree with this pretty strongly. Secondly, his eventual reason for this read is "you ask questions and then don't conclude things" (which btw after this post you don't really do either of those things) which is the most vague and gray goo accusation of a new player ever. It feels like you pulled it out of a box. Bold #2: This is the part that really blows my mind. Why the fuck koshi? Of all people, why koshi? I say this ENTIRELY because of the last game. To give you context: in nutcracker koshi opened the game with the literal exact same post basically and attempted to hold to it; after approximately 12 hours he crumbled and started spamming the thread (or the equiv of spamming in a post limit game). #1) If you're going to base your read off of koshi making the same play shouldn't you actually wait until a proper amount of time has passed for koshi to explode and fail at being quiet or succeed and then make your judgment from then on? #2) koshi had been fairly calm (for his standards) up until kinda recently where he posted some more which is the OPPOSITE of what happened in the last game. So I have a very hard time grasping this read, because I can only assume there is some meta behind it since koshi was nowhere near the most town in the thread from a play perspective. Like either you think koshi got better at being quiet and is town (in which case how the fuck did you make this read so fast?) or this read is manufactured. Bold #3: If the above was serious and based on meta (which to me this post kinda indicates it slightly was) then you backed out of a meta read about GB claiming scum super easy and at a time when I don't really think he deserved it in the slightest. In fact GB was pretty fucking scummy early and I think he still has a solid chance of flipping scum. On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote: Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it Seems legit To me this part is weaker than the koshi part, but still scum indicative. Basically it is simple: he is not reading and doesn't care. Multiple points in the thread and the pages surrounding this, kush, rayn, and hf had all mentioned that kush was a smurf who admitted he was a smurf because he couldn't log on his original name from work. It is mentioned quite a few times, but TT agrees with the read made initially that kush = scum cuz admitting smurfing = nonsense. But he keeps standing by it in the face of facts. Facts that he hadn't read because he didn't care about making an informed read. It is only when I quote it for him a bit later that he says "oh". Also when your read goes from he admitted he was a smurf -> oh, nothing after 1 correction of facts....and it is your most prominent read; clearly he isn't interested in finding scum. On December 28 2015 12:11 Tictock wrote: My only issue with this thinking is that it could just be a very legit, NAI, question he asked there and you are way overthinking it. I will admit that the nature of the question is more town indicative, but this wont really change my opinion by itself. Like this, he is just shitting on someone's town read, but even in shitting on it he is being wishy-washy about shitting on it. However after dumping on it he provides nothing of his own. No indication of direction or wanting people to get on board with him lynching Ness. He simply shits to shit. I don't see how posts like this push town in any positive direction. Like where are you trying to find scum? Where are you gathering information? Where are you showing you're reading the thread? Where are you trying to get people to understand your point of view? You're doing none of that, so you're probably just mafia. Ouch is right. Currently I think TT is a better lynch than Vivax. Vivax is nibbling at the edges while actively reading which annoys me greatly and also engaging in riddles before gameplay which also frustrates me, but he has some LS in him....and that kinda makes me a pussy about it. ##unvote: ##vote: TickTock | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now. I like Obi a little this game... I guess. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 28 2015 15:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Any particular reason why or is the fact that they're similar the thing that's bugging you in and of itself? On December 27 2015 23:55 Damdred wrote: Basically what Damdred said. It's a lousy reason to scumread sicklucker, since last time I played with him, he was scum and I read him as scum, but it's still really, really weird. It does make me feel that my reads are horrible, though SL I think your town...so I should lynch you right?  Anyway, I don't think I'll be able to finish the thread before going to bed, yeesh. I'll take a much closer look at the main wagons if I can't finish, including ritoky's post above. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote: can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong? You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote: I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all. Exo's a cool dude. Def keep him alive. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
What did you think about the Artanis/raynpelikoneet argument about GlowingBear a page or two ago? Can you encourage me to keep reading and make it through? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:22 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I've caught up. I think Rayn is town. I think Exo is town. I think sicklucker might be town. I'm not sure on Ness. I have plenty of suspicions on him but I think that thing Sicklucker said about asking questions in the QT actually makes sense. I have to decide whether it is fakeable or not. I'm also not sure on Ritoky, I've been reevaluating and I believe I may have been nitpicking him for that particular post, which brings him back null Artanis looks scummy, I hated his list post. Tictock looks scummy for his lack of pushes + his joke on hammering me and going after me felt pretty off. Too soon? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT. Yep. Same as every other game. Damdred said what 20 games it took him? Sounds about right... | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:36 Holyflare wrote: This is a blatant post that much like TickTock proves that Vivax wasn't reading the thread AT ALL and just jumped on something that his defender (SL) was posting because SL wasn't also reading the thread. Nobody even jumped on this. People not reading the thread: TickTock, SL, Vivax How do you know this? Kus it's def not true and there is 100% every reason to think the opposite for all of us I think (even Vivax, a little). | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote: So kush is now a good lynch to a point. Also...shining could be a good lynch If anyone cares what I think I listen damdred. Twice as hard when I'm scum ^.^ | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 28 2015 01:06 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin (or anyone else), thoughts on this post?is it too late to /out this game? I only wanted to play in a mini with not shit people and came back to a full normal I realize I'm behind, perhaps this was discussed already, but this post seems rather off to me. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 01:52 N e s s wrote: This post is scummy imo. Scum Ticktock Exo Ticktock isn't focused in the game at all, he even said it as a post, and that post of his above is making me think he's scum. And Exo because i thought he was town earlier in game, but to me him getting mad is more of him going all Gung Ho on everybody. But if vivax ever makes a defense, i'm going to change my vote to TickTock. Didn't you already ask me about this and stuff? Also Exo is not scum. Still pretty sure you are mafia just jumping on all the easy shit going on. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 04:46 Holyflare wrote: What's the point in playing when the 2 people I want to vote have wagons on them and there are like a million people afk? 0 point  Did I miss you give a read on me? Or you fine with it just kus? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 28 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: So tempting Well if anyone else wants to claim mason then please go a head in your next post. It's the correct play.  Side note, Holyflare is really confusing me, but I'd feel really really really bad if I mislynched him, and the "simple" answer is that he's town. On further thinking I don't think that the post I quoted a bit ago is important. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote: You can go to work with food poisoning? I think not my friend. Yep, sick around 9, get that shit all outta your system, head in by 1 with a couple hours extra sleep to get over it. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 28 2015 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh that makes sense, there wasn't actually a case. Most of your inital post on TT was bitching about how me and GB were reading GB poorly. Actually my main reason for scumming TT is a discrepancy in appearance; on one hand, giving (weak) reads. On the other hand, claiming not to really care and playing the bravado card. Why is this a discrepency? Even though I'm halfassing this game (which I said when I /in'd btw) I'm still gunna react to stuff and post right? Naturally making reads is part of that. | ||
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