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On December 28 2015 08:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
What if they just care about the most important things...? I'm arguing he doesn't actually care about anything. He just addressed everything going on without showing any real care. On December 28 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically being a complete non-factor, stating his opinions multiple times without attempting to engage or push anyone. When engaging people he's engaging them on things he doesn't actually care about rather than his scumread and makes no attempt to engage his scumread either. Well he engaged the two most imporatnt things in the game which is more than 60% of the players have done... I expect scum to be much more concerned with addressing the "most important things in the game", whereas town is more likely to engage the things they care about the most. Okay. And given the effort cava has put into the game what shoyld he do? Spend the little time he has actually telling the thread why he prefers TT over Vivax so we have something to read him on. But he did just that? Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alright, I'm caught up.
I'm going to vote tictock because his filter is basically a bunch of empty nothingness. Rayn's points on his readslist were solid and I'm going to roll with that. Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm. "I think TT is scummier because his filter is worse." That's as much reasoning as "I like the sky better without clouds because it's sunnier."
Or like... He agrees with my case. Which is btw why you voted for TT..... No?
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On December 28 2015 08:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Slam, ExO is practically confirmed town due to dumbtelling himself into oblivion by not believing the mason claims for forever. That's a bad reason because he said they are likely VT's fake claiming too.
I'd imagine as mafia you're much more aware of how bad a strategy it would be to fakeclaim as scum. I also don't think he'd put himself in the limelight like that. It just seems very unlikely.
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On December 28 2015 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 08:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
What if they just care about the most important things...? I'm arguing he doesn't actually care about anything. He just addressed everything going on without showing any real care. On December 28 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically being a complete non-factor, stating his opinions multiple times without attempting to engage or push anyone. When engaging people he's engaging them on things he doesn't actually care about rather than his scumread and makes no attempt to engage his scumread either. Well he engaged the two most imporatnt things in the game which is more than 60% of the players have done... I expect scum to be much more concerned with addressing the "most important things in the game", whereas town is more likely to engage the things they care about the most. Okay. And given the effort cava has put into the game what shoyld he do? Spend the little time he has actually telling the thread why he prefers TT over Vivax so we have something to read him on. But he did just that? On December 28 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alright, I'm caught up.
I'm going to vote tictock because his filter is basically a bunch of empty nothingness. Rayn's points on his readslist were solid and I'm going to roll with that. On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm. "I think TT is scummier because his filter is worse." That's as much reasoning as "I like the sky better without clouds because it's sunnier." Or like... He agrees with my case. Which is btw why you voted for TT..... No?
I didn't agree with your TT read at first because I had my own recollection on him which was inaccurate. I re-evaled him after going through him again which was prompted by someone else.. Was it GB? Think it might be.
Honestly don't even remember your case.
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On December 28 2015 01:43 Onegu wrote:
SL reason for scum reading kush is shit. A) He talks about another player outing his smurf as scum. B) Kush outed his smurf before this game even started.
SL making up reasons to scum read people. Also really hate his lets lynch people who are unreadable.
Fuck that shit.
SL scum.
Boom Headshot.
2 scum down boys.
i said it was a very weak reason. However he still voluntarily gave it up in his first post. I still read that as mafia thinking it will bit him in the ass later. im aware of the circumstances and said it was not the same as ff
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Oh that makes sense, there wasn't actually a case. Most of your inital post on TT was bitching about how me and GB were reading GB poorly.
On December 27 2015 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To further my case;
TicTock was more interested in talking about his townreads (which he claimed are not really town reads) instead of his scumreads. As scumreads he just pointed out (easy) names.
Actually my main reason for scumming TT is a discrepancy in appearance; on one hand, giving (weak) reads. On the other hand, claiming not to really care and playing the bravado card.
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And now I'm actually going to go to sleep.
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Also if you somehow still doubt me rayn you are really bad this game 
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On December 28 2015 01:51 rsoultin wrote:
lol yeah make coag more upset at me by giving him shit for my too obvious obvious crumb
-beats sl with a stick-
 I love you , you know im a troll I wouldnt have outed if I thought it was hidable
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On December 28 2015 01:52 Onegu wrote:
Wait Coag and Rsoul are in a QT together. Mafia QT.
Fuck I am good at this game.
3 scum down.
so i outed two of my team mates for no reason to you
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On December 28 2015 08:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
What if they just care about the most important things...? I'm arguing he doesn't actually care about anything. He just addressed everything going on without showing any real care. On December 28 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 08:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 28 2015 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Basically being a complete non-factor, stating his opinions multiple times without attempting to engage or push anyone. When engaging people he's engaging them on things he doesn't actually care about rather than his scumread and makes no attempt to engage his scumread either. Well he engaged the two most imporatnt things in the game which is more than 60% of the players have done... I expect scum to be much more concerned with addressing the "most important things in the game", whereas town is more likely to engage the things they care about the most. Okay. And given the effort cava has put into the game what shoyld he do? Spend the little time he has actually telling the thread why he prefers TT over Vivax so we have something to read him on. But he did just that? On December 28 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alright, I'm caught up.
I'm going to vote tictock because his filter is basically a bunch of empty nothingness. Rayn's points on his readslist were solid and I'm going to roll with that. On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm. "I think TT is scummier because his filter is worse." That's as much reasoning as "I like the sky better without clouds because it's sunnier." Or like... He agrees with my case. Which is btw why you voted for TT..... No? I didn't agree with your TT read at first because I had my own recollection on him which was inaccurate. I re-evaled him after going through him again which was prompted by someone else.. Was it GB? Think it might be. Honestly don't even remember your case.
Sooo... You dont remember my case but cava is scum because he agrees with the case?
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On December 28 2015 08:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also if you somehow still doubt me rayn you are really bad this game
Actually I take this back because I can sorta see where you're coming from as there's a bunch of things I've had to backtrack on after you pressed me on them that weren't very sound/more tonally based. You're still okay if you suspect me even if you're wrong.
K bed now.
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Well is he still your top scum?
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On December 28 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 02:01 N e s s wrote:On December 28 2015 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 01:41 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what GlowingBear did:
Scumreads Ness for asking useless questions.
HF agrees with GB (but somehow still scumreads him?!?!?).
Makes a "better" post on Ness.
GB waits for Ness to answer HF's post (gets scumread for it too obvs...)
Focuses on other things (gets scumread for it....).
Ness answers.
Ness' answer doesn't please GB (gets scumread for it too..)
GB asks a follow up question -- reads.
Ness gives basically nothing...
GB asks another legit question.
Ness answers basically nothing.
GB still scumreads him (gets scumread for that one too.-...)
Something is really fucking wrong here. Not really no rayn. Please explain what happened then. He didn't ask me a legit question if i can remember correctly, it wasn't even a question at all. He said "i find it amusing you don't know the reason we were voting moose". something along those lines. I don't even see how you think thats wrong at all.... Dude you sound like saying "i don't think you are town" somehow means a different thing that "i think you are mafia"... What a way to argue about semantics.
He was doing this with me a lot too, but you have to realize
He is right, you know...
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On December 28 2015 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 02:31 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote:On December 28 2015 02:12 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 02:06 Holyflare wrote:On December 28 2015 01:58 ExO_ wrote:
I don't think rsoultin breadcrumbed coag. No mention of anything remotely related to him until after somebody else mentions it in the thread. then she hops right onto the idea that she breadcrumbed him.
I don't believe rsoultin/coag are masons. I don't necessarily think they are scum buddies either. I think a huge variety of things could be happening here. but when rsoultin has been accused of being scum so far she kinda just goes "shrug nothing I can do to convince you guys". So I think rsoultin is scum, and coag is some non-scum role kinda just piggy bagging off rsoultin's "bread crumbing" to make up for his lack of posting. so then the real 2 masons just out and we have 2 mafia.... don't think that's a good plan exo Why should the mason's speak up? On this forum, I think it'd be more likely that 2 people who are VT fake claim mason rather than actual masons claim on day 1. I don't think that's the case here, but it's not impossible. What I don't think happened is rsoultin as a mason bread crumbed her mason buddy in this manner. I think you're entirely on the wrong train of thought, rsoultin would absolutely breadcrumb like this because she's done the same thing before, it is also incredibly out of the blue for rsoultin to just randomly pick coagulation as a mason buddy to randomly put in a town list too, too many things don't add up. I don't think they are VT and I think you are following an end that has no real goal here. I think you should focus on other things and question people you scum read that aren't coag/based on something silly. You seem to have a problem with my posts and questions that seemingly lead nowhere (I'm pretty sure I've made cases on both vivax and GB early game) and I'd like you to point out some things that you had problem with in my posts and I can show you where they lead me. Or because I'm town and that would ultimately be a fruitless endeavor for you and me you could talk about some other intuitive tidbit you've seen. Give me an example of rsoultin breadcrumbing, particularly if its a player who hasn't posted, and when it turned out to be true. I think you're awfully quick to believe that rsoultin "bread crumbed here" and that she isn't scum. How can you be so sure that rsoultin is a mason? You really believe that she can't be scum, or fake claiming VT. It's not worth pursuing that line of thought at all? yeah Exo, you should let that go. They are masons.
Wth who claims Mason's day 1? Was one of them up for lunch or something ? -_-
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On December 28 2015 02:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
ExO dumbtelling himself into a confirmed town spot basically.
Onegu I don't think SL is actually pushing Kush for that is he? I haven't seen him push Kush at all anymore.
I would love to see him die but more of a semi policy lynch. Against a beast like kush any read is a good reason to lynch him day 1
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On December 28 2015 08:28 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 02:31 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote:On December 28 2015 02:12 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 02:06 Holyflare wrote:On December 28 2015 01:58 ExO_ wrote:
I don't think rsoultin breadcrumbed coag. No mention of anything remotely related to him until after somebody else mentions it in the thread. then she hops right onto the idea that she breadcrumbed him.
I don't believe rsoultin/coag are masons. I don't necessarily think they are scum buddies either. I think a huge variety of things could be happening here. but when rsoultin has been accused of being scum so far she kinda just goes "shrug nothing I can do to convince you guys". So I think rsoultin is scum, and coag is some non-scum role kinda just piggy bagging off rsoultin's "bread crumbing" to make up for his lack of posting. so then the real 2 masons just out and we have 2 mafia.... don't think that's a good plan exo Why should the mason's speak up? On this forum, I think it'd be more likely that 2 people who are VT fake claim mason rather than actual masons claim on day 1. I don't think that's the case here, but it's not impossible. What I don't think happened is rsoultin as a mason bread crumbed her mason buddy in this manner. I think you're entirely on the wrong train of thought, rsoultin would absolutely breadcrumb like this because she's done the same thing before, it is also incredibly out of the blue for rsoultin to just randomly pick coagulation as a mason buddy to randomly put in a town list too, too many things don't add up. I don't think they are VT and I think you are following an end that has no real goal here. I think you should focus on other things and question people you scum read that aren't coag/based on something silly. You seem to have a problem with my posts and questions that seemingly lead nowhere (I'm pretty sure I've made cases on both vivax and GB early game) and I'd like you to point out some things that you had problem with in my posts and I can show you where they lead me. Or because I'm town and that would ultimately be a fruitless endeavor for you and me you could talk about some other intuitive tidbit you've seen. Give me an example of rsoultin breadcrumbing, particularly if its a player who hasn't posted, and when it turned out to be true. I think you're awfully quick to believe that rsoultin "bread crumbed here" and that she isn't scum. How can you be so sure that rsoultin is a mason? You really believe that she can't be scum, or fake claiming VT. It's not worth pursuing that line of thought at all? yeah Exo, you should let that go. They are masons. Wth who claims Mason's day 1? Was one of them up for lunch or something ? -_-
Yeah they must be scum now lynch them...
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On December 28 2015 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
I'm going to repeat myself
I want Coag to get rsoultin to tell him what forum I met rsoultin on, and the name I went by over there. It'll settle my doubts, and get me off this case. It's a win win for town. It wouldn't take much effort either. If Coag/rsoultin can't be arsed to do that much then I'm going to continue thinking that rsoultin is scum and coag is either being played, or is scum too
hum is this mafia wifmo hunting?
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Vote Count - Day 1
Vivax (4): Holyflare, ritoky, Ness, Koshi, Artanis[Xp], GlowingBear, Koshi
Tictock (2): raynpelikoneet, ObiWanShinobi, Artanis[Xp], GlowingBear, ExO_
nooniansong (1): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker
sicklucker (1): Onegu
Coagulation (1): sicklucker, ExO_
Trfel (1): boxerfred
Palmar (1): nooniansong
N e s s (1): GlowingBear
ObiWanShinobi (1): Artanis[Xp]
Artanis[Xp] (0): Trfel, Koshi
rsoultin (0) Onegu
ExO_ (0): Artanis[Xp], Trfel, Koshi
MoosyDoosy (0): Artanis[Xp]
Koshi (0): Onegu
boxerfred (0): Vivax
Not Voting (12): Rels, Damdred, Waylanner, rsoultin, MoosyDoosy, Coagulation, Trfel, The Shining, Palmar, Tictock, Alakaslam, Vivax
At this time, Vivax is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Monday, Dec 28 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
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On December 28 2015 03:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:God, N e s s and Rayn is like Ruxx and Rayn all over again
its like rayn and anyone he tunnels really
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still waiting on coag
rsoultin im dissapointed about how you've handled this so far. how hard would it be to tell coag what to say? it would take no effort at all and yet here we are.
I'm not asking for too much, so prove it to me.
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