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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:21 GMT
#621
On December 27 2015 15:19 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:08 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:06 Alakaslam wrote:
And clever hints are still omgus if they're baseless, so back it up. Why'm I scum bro? Besides pointing out what you do as scummy?

That post is scummy as all hell

Never said you were scum..."bro".

This is even worse.

If you are going to parse implications with emotes into posts and then back out when called out, you are playing textbook scum that has been caught here before.

So

As either alignment you should rethink these ones.

Why am I scum? Because as much as I H8 rayn (), I really respect his reads (most of the time) and he somehow has EXO as town

So

You're next on my list unless you can prove that I have 1. Been asserting you were 100% scum before the 2. That you must prove, which is that the read I draw from your emotes and implications is based on a misunderstanding.

So

You have to prove that I was actually calling you scum before misunderstanding you later and calling you scum because you were backing out of implications.

Jeez, case proven.

I'm not even gonna bother with you saying i'm scum right now, TL mafia is more annoying to me then other forums i've played on.

Also, that scum traits guide is pointless. Keep reading those guide tho.

I know they are. Meta works though.

I have 50+ games, I know what I am about to at least that extent.

Tell me the town motivation, and tell me I haven't been catching you in the same hypocrisy that peeved you earlier.

Get used to it. We all do it, don't we? SL is just a blatant example.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 06:22 GMT
#622
On December 27 2015 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:07 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:02 Trfel wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:54 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:53 Trfel wrote:
I think that Artanis is town for post count. Post count seems to be an extremely huge tell for him.

I don't care if he knows that I will read him based on post count, we both know that he can't keep a high post count as mafia this game The fact that he made this many posts early seems extremely town-motivated to me. I just don't see Artanis doing that as mafia, it's a futile effort that would be irrelevant to his survival (since his activity will drop off).

Call me silly, but I think it's an easy read.


what do you think of me and rayn and our disagreement on reading you?
Didn't really read it yet, raynpelikoneet's townread of me felt a bit "easy", like I don't think he generally reads me with that confidence, and I don't think that my play has been notably good so far (or towny, outside potential meta that few, if any, know).
On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:
trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia.
This statement, however, is exactly the opposite of my "meta". This is not a reason to townread me, since my scum playstyle wasn't working and I need a new playstyle, but your statement here is factually incorrect.

I mean, it's possible that you see my scum play as weak and wimpy, fine. Compared to my town play, though, it's extremely aggressive. I feel like you should know this, seeing as I kept mentioning that I was scared about hurting people's feelings in the scum QT? But there's no incentive for you to lie intentionally, so bleh.

I'm going to reread the thread now, so yeah.


i remember you not committing to a side like at all day 1 in that game and then backing down from a blue claim fight and getting pretty wishy-washy when people got salty. maybe you're right and i am wrong and the game we were mafia together in was just a bit of an anomaly. might got look at another one of your scum games to see if i get the feels.
Seeing as I managed to defend my mafia partner by leading a mislynch on Day 1, and even pushed an un-cc'd blue trying to force the mislynch through?

I'd really like you to explain how you could see my play in this way, and more importantly, how you can see my town play as more committal.


Shit like this:

On September 29 2015 07:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!
My post isn't actually that long, if you actually care about the content you can just read it yourself.....

And if you don't care about the content, then you can probably just not read the stuff inside the spoiler. Which is all of the post. So you're done!

That wasn't too hard, was it?


On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin


From battle of drams where you're assertive and telling people how it is. Not weak in tone, but rather straightforward and terse.

oh wow...i went back to read newbie student fullmetal and i am just wrong. you were super fucking aggro in this game. maybe i just have a fucked up perception cuz of the qt. well i guess that read is trash now.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:23 GMT
#623
On December 27 2015 15:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:08 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:06 Alakaslam wrote:
And clever hints are still omgus if they're baseless, so back it up. Why'm I scum bro? Besides pointing out what you do as scummy?

That post is scummy as all hell

Never said you were scum..."bro".

This is even worse.

If you are going to parse implications with emotes into posts and then back out when called out, you are playing textbook scum that has been caught here before.

So

As either alignment you should rethink these ones.

Why am I scum? Because as much as I H8 rayn (), I really respect his reads (most of the time) and he somehow has EXO as town

So

You're next on my list unless you can prove that I have 1. Been asserting you were 100% scum before the 2. That you must prove, which is that the read I draw from your emotes and implications is based on a misunderstanding.

So

You have to prove that I was actually calling you scum before misunderstanding you later and calling you scum because you were backing out of implications.

Also i understand you're calling me out but get to the point, i don't understand what you're saying with your grammer.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 06:24 GMT
#624
On December 27 2015 15:15 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:12 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:07 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:05 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:05 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:02 N e s s wrote:
"He's scum but I don't want to kill him now"


You're putting words in my mouth there hun, thats not what i said in the post.

What i said is more of "He might be scum but i'm not going to jump to that conclusion."

Same difference. Scum have to make their words politically pretty or they'll be obvious of course.

Yeah no. You'd enjoy my flip as town

You're calling me out as scum for little to no evidence supporting it other then a post that was meant to say that i didn't think of someone as scum.

The post was scummy as all hell bro

I'm sure it was, buddy

this game is no fun, more frustrating in that matter.


you have no votes on you, multiple people think you're town, and 1 of your 2 scum reads is currently leading in votes and slated to be lynched.....why are you frustrated exactly? because everyone hasn't awarded you the title of town jesus? i don't mean to sound like a dick, but i am legit confused....it's 12 hrs into your first game here where most people have no information and some people's job is to actively lie and some people find your play questionable....how is that unreasonable or frustrating?

The reason i find it frustration is because all of the scum reads people are doing on me. Like jesus the only logical scum read on me was HF's, and thats even been dissmissed. I feel like i'm spending more time right now having to defend myself then getting to enjoy the game.

that or i'm just a whinney b****.


as a bit of coaching advice: if you sit around defending yourself the entire time you are playing to not die/lose, which generally people will read as more mafia indicative (obv you need to defend youself some of the time). counter-intuitively making cases and trying to find mafia when you're under suspicion is more likely to get you town reads as you are playing to resolve people's alignments/find scum/win.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 27 2015 06:28 GMT
#625
On December 27 2015 15:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:09 Trfel wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:07 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:02 Trfel wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:54 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:53 Trfel wrote:
I think that Artanis is town for post count. Post count seems to be an extremely huge tell for him.

I don't care if he knows that I will read him based on post count, we both know that he can't keep a high post count as mafia this game The fact that he made this many posts early seems extremely town-motivated to me. I just don't see Artanis doing that as mafia, it's a futile effort that would be irrelevant to his survival (since his activity will drop off).

Call me silly, but I think it's an easy read.


what do you think of me and rayn and our disagreement on reading you?
Didn't really read it yet, raynpelikoneet's townread of me felt a bit "easy", like I don't think he generally reads me with that confidence, and I don't think that my play has been notably good so far (or towny, outside potential meta that few, if any, know).
On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:
trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia.
This statement, however, is exactly the opposite of my "meta". This is not a reason to townread me, since my scum playstyle wasn't working and I need a new playstyle, but your statement here is factually incorrect.

I mean, it's possible that you see my scum play as weak and wimpy, fine. Compared to my town play, though, it's extremely aggressive. I feel like you should know this, seeing as I kept mentioning that I was scared about hurting people's feelings in the scum QT? But there's no incentive for you to lie intentionally, so bleh.

I'm going to reread the thread now, so yeah.


i remember you not committing to a side like at all day 1 in that game and then backing down from a blue claim fight and getting pretty wishy-washy when people got salty. maybe you're right and i am wrong and the game we were mafia together in was just a bit of an anomaly. might got look at another one of your scum games to see if i get the feels.
Seeing as I managed to defend my mafia partner by leading a mislynch on Day 1, and even pushed an un-cc'd blue trying to force the mislynch through?

I'd really like you to explain how you could see my play in this way, and more importantly, how you can see my town play as more committal.


Shit like this:

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:05 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!
My post isn't actually that long, if you actually care about the content you can just read it yourself.....

And if you don't care about the content, then you can probably just not read the stuff inside the spoiler. Which is all of the post. So you're done!

That wasn't too hard, was it?


Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin


From battle of drams where you're assertive and telling people how it is. Not weak in tone, but rather straightforward and terse.

oh wow...i went back to read newbie student fullmetal and i am just wrong. you were super fucking aggro in this game. maybe i just have a fucked up perception cuz of the qt. well i guess that read is trash now.
Thanks for answering my question. That makes sense to me for now, though I'll re-evaluate upon finishing the thread.

I'm too lazy to check, why did you townread Artanis early in the game? If you already answered, I'll find it eventually, sorry.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 06:28 GMT
#626
ritoky: only person nominated for coach of the year 2015

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:29 GMT
#627
On December 27 2015 12:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 12:35 rsoultin wrote:
As for tt, idk. The scumreads seem rather lazy. smurf thing is an ick reason but his ness scumread is focusing on scummy things i guess even if i disagree that scum posts so blatantly scummy. he could believe it maybe?

The kush thing is basically at best him not reading the thread properly -- it was pointed out by HF already that kush outed his smurf in another thread, there is absolutely nothing scummy in it.

Ness' play looks more like he (she?) just doesn't know who is scum and isn't overplaying anything. I don't know where the "he doesn't follow up on his questions" comes from because basically noone ever answered him in the first place....... It just doesn't make any sense to scumread Ness here, it would make sense to not townread him -- but scumread is definitely not a legit read, at least for those reasons imo.

Hey FUCK YOU

+ Show Spoiler +
:/

Now maybe we fire for real. See when you get back.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 06:30 GMT
#628
On December 27 2015 15:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:22 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:09 Trfel wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:07 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:02 Trfel wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:54 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:53 Trfel wrote:
I think that Artanis is town for post count. Post count seems to be an extremely huge tell for him.

I don't care if he knows that I will read him based on post count, we both know that he can't keep a high post count as mafia this game The fact that he made this many posts early seems extremely town-motivated to me. I just don't see Artanis doing that as mafia, it's a futile effort that would be irrelevant to his survival (since his activity will drop off).

Call me silly, but I think it's an easy read.


what do you think of me and rayn and our disagreement on reading you?
Didn't really read it yet, raynpelikoneet's townread of me felt a bit "easy", like I don't think he generally reads me with that confidence, and I don't think that my play has been notably good so far (or towny, outside potential meta that few, if any, know).
On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:
trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia.
This statement, however, is exactly the opposite of my "meta". This is not a reason to townread me, since my scum playstyle wasn't working and I need a new playstyle, but your statement here is factually incorrect.

I mean, it's possible that you see my scum play as weak and wimpy, fine. Compared to my town play, though, it's extremely aggressive. I feel like you should know this, seeing as I kept mentioning that I was scared about hurting people's feelings in the scum QT? But there's no incentive for you to lie intentionally, so bleh.

I'm going to reread the thread now, so yeah.


i remember you not committing to a side like at all day 1 in that game and then backing down from a blue claim fight and getting pretty wishy-washy when people got salty. maybe you're right and i am wrong and the game we were mafia together in was just a bit of an anomaly. might got look at another one of your scum games to see if i get the feels.
Seeing as I managed to defend my mafia partner by leading a mislynch on Day 1, and even pushed an un-cc'd blue trying to force the mislynch through?

I'd really like you to explain how you could see my play in this way, and more importantly, how you can see my town play as more committal.


Shit like this:

On September 29 2015 07:05 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!
My post isn't actually that long, if you actually care about the content you can just read it yourself.....

And if you don't care about the content, then you can probably just not read the stuff inside the spoiler. Which is all of the post. So you're done!

That wasn't too hard, was it?


On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin


From battle of drams where you're assertive and telling people how it is. Not weak in tone, but rather straightforward and terse.

oh wow...i went back to read newbie student fullmetal and i am just wrong. you were super fucking aggro in this game. maybe i just have a fucked up perception cuz of the qt. well i guess that read is trash now.
Thanks for answering my question. That makes sense to me for now, though I'll re-evaluate upon finishing the thread.

I'm too lazy to check, why did you townread Artanis early in the game? If you already answered, I'll find it eventually, sorry.


On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:
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On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel


Why is Artanis town?

Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia?

Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia?


artanis is freely posting thoughts instead of releasing them in blocks of text. artans waits, sounds calculated, and posts in paragraphs/walls when he is scum.

slam and rsoul are doing things that aren't alignment indicative but make me like them; plus slam is just hot irl.

you're mafia because town GB calls that guy an idiot or worthless, town GB doesn't call him mafia.

trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia.

we done with your shitter read?

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he has kinda fucked off a bit after he got his town reads, but not enough to be outside of town yet/be concerning.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:32 GMT
#629
My grammar is just lazy-ass, if I bothered to punctuate it I would be more understandable

Also it comes from having too professorial language for a while, trying to dumb it down, and deciding that wasn't with the drawbacks

As well as starting to learn 3 languages.

Korean loves to imply, 감사 muy mucho
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:33 GMT
#630
Oh and I 99% phonepost so autocorrect likes to CHUPAZI MY HIJOLE
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:34 GMT
#631
CopCake está aquí?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 06:36 GMT
#632
On December 27 2015 15:32 Alakaslam wrote:
My grammar is just lazy-ass, if I bothered to punctuate it I would be more understandable

Also it comes from having too professorial language for a while, trying to dumb it down, and deciding that wasn't with the drawbacks

As well as starting to learn 3 languages.

Korean loves to imply, 감사 muy mucho


あなたは 귀여운 porque el ojo del chupazi
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:37 GMT
#633
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
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On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.

In a tight knit community like this, not really.

But I used to champion this cause
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:38 GMT
#634
Thanks... Cute is now mnemonic with Judaism for me XD

Goya Yoon so cute
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:41 GMT
#635
On December 27 2015 12:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 27 2015 12:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.


Lol im just gonna call you town <3 for the day


Because?


Uber cuteness ^^

Its more just that hes a new fish in a big pond with suspicion on him already but still is unafraid to post and contradict ppl. i dont see him being this relaxed as scum in a new environment and its enough to townread him for the day and focus on others i think

These be dam good points

Also

Given the prior suspicion, the reactions to me make a whole lot more sense.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:43 GMT
#636
On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote:
Alrighty! So, heres my defense.

First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum.

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Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two:


Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7

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At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything.


You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time.

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but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.


...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this-

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Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious.

Why would you band wagon this early with no reads?



Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose.

Show nested quote +
Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret.

On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious.


Show nested quote +
If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for.


this. this rubs me the wrong way.

1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it?
2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me?
3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical.

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1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions?

2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?

3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?


Smh answered those first 2 already.

but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest.

But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all.

See ness will soon lol when it dawns on him that I am fangless thuu.

If he had literally ignored me 100% I would already townread him.

And almost do even so.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:46 GMT
#637
On December 27 2015 13:11 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.

It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion.

Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart.

What if he's changed his play style?

But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Well here is where we disagree..
And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means.

But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do.

Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town.

Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point?

TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething).
Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.

Yeah i have been reading your posts, i just wanted your general gathering of who you think is scum.

This subtlety had done it.

Scum players are generally quite a bit better than you may be used to here; that's been mucking with your reasoning and play style.

Assume scum is like 3 steps ahead of us. We might catch them that way.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:48 GMT
#638
On December 27 2015 13:18 Holyflare wrote:
This game is pretty boring, everyone that posts a lot is relatively towny and the rest can go die in a mafia fire.

Seriously like if I don't see a coag post tomorrow I might go with that

Or Onegu. Like he hasn't said anything
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:50 GMT
#639
On December 27 2015 13:42 Koshi wrote:
Because everybody is so townie I ended up reading Alakaslam. I was not impressed.

:D

When will you ever be though? I am as I am
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2015 06:54 GMT
#640
Aight I caught up.

Cyall I gotta get up in morn
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