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On December 27 2015 15:46 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:11 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta. its bad to go off of meta. It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion. Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart. What if he's changed his play style? But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on. Well here is where we disagree.. And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means. But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do. Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town. Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point? TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all?  I think i have been quite clear in what i think. Yeah i have been reading your posts, i just wanted your general gathering of who you think is scum. This subtlety had done it. Scum players are generally quite a bit better than you may be used to here; that's been mucking with your reasoning and play style. Assume scum is like 3 steps ahead of us. We might catch them that way.
thx fam
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I thought I was reading alakaslams filter for a sec up in this bitch
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VT claim.
Will read in a bit. Try and not be lazy...
##Vote: Koshi
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OH shit Rsoultin is in this game. Easiest scum find ever.
##Unvote
##Vote Rsoultin
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On December 27 2015 16:24 Onegu wrote:
VT claim.
Will read in a bit. Try and not be lazy...
##Vote: Koshi
never again.
afk 20 hours, sleeping then driving home from wannabe america + Show Spoiler + will probably miss my hawks game D:
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To throw my reputation out the window or not......
Meh, I guess I'll go for it.
rsoultin?
(runs for cover)
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This^ 10000000000% and I havent even read the game yet.
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Fuck Me. Guess I will have to try this game. HF is in here. Rayn. Rsoul. Slam.
The rest of you fucks I dont really care about.
J/K.
Sorta.
More serious for some of you.
Maybe most rather than some.
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On December 27 2015 16:43 Trfel wrote:
To throw my reputation out the window or not......
Meh, I guess I'll go for it.
rsoultin?
(runs for cover)
>> and here i was compiling reads before bed. tsk tsk
course blah that's too much work so i'm just gonna glance down the player lynch and do shitty lists! \o/
Town (in no particular order cause why)
Coag
Damdy
rayn
art
slam
koshi
truffle - cuz otherwise he's a stupid little mafioso
No Lynch D1
N e s s
ritoky - think is town and rayn is wrong, but could fool me
hf - could fool me
Preferred lynches
Viva
GB (maybe...kinda don't want to let this one go cause i'll be mad if y'all talked me out of it and he ends up being scum)
OWS
Could lynch
noon (doesn't sit right...not too familiar with kush, but is he normally this much of a pussy? i know he frequently afks as town and gets mislynched)
tt (more cause i know rayn is town and don't mind sheeping him than because i really feel he's scum, but whatevs. rayn picks up on things i don't ^^)
sl (voting the wrong dude  )
yup didn't include anyone i don't have an opinion on (though i may have forgotten people too, and that should worry them for being forgettable ^^)
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So far for me:
Town: Damdred, ritoky
Questionable: HF, trfel, artanis
When I pushed Damdred for responses, he answered me. I think he could've very easily brushed me off with the mood in the thread at the time, but he didn't. Good enough so far for me.
ritoky changed his logic and thinking on trfel mid post. Though I guess it's not necessarily alignment indicative I think backing off of trfel mid post as he types, seems towny to me. I don't see the incentive to do this if he was scum.
Artanis/trfel - I initially had them both as town reads. Both of them seem to be playing off each other. Artansis specifically asking trfel what he thinks about something, then trfel coming in. But when I took a closer look at the filter, trfel immediately after scum reading me (following in artanis's lead) backs off it when the thread starts to shift away from scum reading me. I lean town on these 2 for now, but I think they're the same alignment: either both town or both scum.
HF - Not a big fan of HF so far. Really pushing Vivax based only on his lack of responding. At first he was only questioning others without offering his own reads, but he did start to at least back up some of his reads in the bottom half of P1 in his filter. I'm not convinced this super heavy pushing of Vivax is entirely justified just yet. I think I really dislike HF's style of heavy asking questions rather than presenting a case, but this doesn't make him scum.
I think in general HF asks too many questions that ultimately don't help with solving the game, while simultaneously offering up very little of his (is it her? I seem to recall HF being a woman) own opinions. But if I recall correctly I've had this opinion of HF in other games and it was incorrect. I lean scum on HF but not very heavily.
Those are my initial impressions of people that have stuck out to me so far.
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throw oneg into the no lynch category
hrum
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On December 27 2015 16:58 Onegu wrote:
But dota first
MMR?
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If you're town, please do something to make me think that you're town T.T
Like, why are you scumreading ObiWanShinobi?
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Oh, and Holyflare, too. I'm too disorganized
Both questions to rsoultin, if it wasn't clear.
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On December 27 2015 17:11 Trfel wrote:Oh, and Holyflare, too. I'm too disorganized Both questions to rsoultin, if it wasn't clear. Wait, no, my question is why does rsoultin have a town lean on Holyflare.
Wow, this is horrid. What's happened to me English too hard...
我不会说英文。。。 可是也不会说中文。。。
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On December 27 2015 17:08 ExO_ wrote:
So far for me:
Town: Damdred, ritoky
Questionable: HF, trfel, artanis
When I pushed Damdred for responses, he answered me. I think he could've very easily brushed me off with the mood in the thread at the time, but he didn't. Good enough so far for me.
ritoky changed his logic and thinking on trfel mid post. Though I guess it's not necessarily alignment indicative I think backing off of trfel mid post as he types, seems towny to me. I don't see the incentive to do this if he was scum.
Artanis/trfel - I initially had them both as town reads. Both of them seem to be playing off each other. Artansis specifically asking trfel what he thinks about something, then trfel coming in. But when I took a closer look at the filter, trfel immediately after scum reading me (following in artanis's lead) backs off it when the thread starts to shift away from scum reading me. I lean town on these 2 for now, but I think they're the same alignment: either both town or both scum.
HF - Not a big fan of HF so far. Really pushing Vivax based only on his lack of responding. At first he was only questioning others without offering his own reads, but he did start to at least back up some of his reads in the bottom half of P1 in his filter. I'm not convinced this super heavy pushing of Vivax is entirely justified just yet. I think I really dislike HF's style of heavy asking questions rather than presenting a case, but this doesn't make him scum.
I think in general HF asks too many questions that ultimately don't help with solving the game, while simultaneously offering up very little of his (is it her? I seem to recall HF being a woman) own opinions. But if I recall correctly I've had this opinion of HF in other games and it was incorrect. I lean scum on HF but not very heavily.
Those are my initial impressions of people that have stuck out to me so far.
i'd pout for old time's sake but honestly...eh
i've been kinda not bothering with you either ^^ hihi!
disagree on the vivax thing with hf, predominately because it is known that vivax will play as town and not as scum, though it's also true that viva has been mislynched for deliberately playing to his scum meta as town (no i don't understand why people use this cop out way of making themselves harder to read instead of just working on their scum game, but whatevs). that's all to say i think it's a legit enough read PLUS if hf is scum he'd 100% buss a scum viva who wasn't playing anyway, so this doesn't really matter imo
i like that you're focusing on the big names instead of lynchbait tho ^^ might bump you into my do not lynch pile with oneg
now i really should sleep :/
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On December 27 2015 17:14 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 17:08 ExO_ wrote:
So far for me:
Town: Damdred, ritoky
Questionable: HF, trfel, artanis
When I pushed Damdred for responses, he answered me. I think he could've very easily brushed me off with the mood in the thread at the time, but he didn't. Good enough so far for me.
ritoky changed his logic and thinking on trfel mid post. Though I guess it's not necessarily alignment indicative I think backing off of trfel mid post as he types, seems towny to me. I don't see the incentive to do this if he was scum.
Artanis/trfel - I initially had them both as town reads. Both of them seem to be playing off each other. Artansis specifically asking trfel what he thinks about something, then trfel coming in. But when I took a closer look at the filter, trfel immediately after scum reading me (following in artanis's lead) backs off it when the thread starts to shift away from scum reading me. I lean town on these 2 for now, but I think they're the same alignment: either both town or both scum.
HF - Not a big fan of HF so far. Really pushing Vivax based only on his lack of responding. At first he was only questioning others without offering his own reads, but he did start to at least back up some of his reads in the bottom half of P1 in his filter. I'm not convinced this super heavy pushing of Vivax is entirely justified just yet. I think I really dislike HF's style of heavy asking questions rather than presenting a case, but this doesn't make him scum.
I think in general HF asks too many questions that ultimately don't help with solving the game, while simultaneously offering up very little of his (is it her? I seem to recall HF being a woman) own opinions. But if I recall correctly I've had this opinion of HF in other games and it was incorrect. I lean scum on HF but not very heavily.
Those are my initial impressions of people that have stuck out to me so far. i'd pout for old time's sake but honestly...eh i've been kinda not bothering with you either ^^ hihi! disagree on the vivax thing with hf, predominately because it is known that vivax will play as town and not as scum, though it's also true that viva has been mislynched for deliberately playing to his scum meta as town (no i don't understand why people use this cop out way of making themselves harder to read instead of just working on their scum game, but whatevs). that's all to say i think it's a legit enough read PLUS if hf is scum he'd 100% buss a scum viva who wasn't playing anyway, so this doesn't really matter imo i like that you're focusing on the big names instead of lynchbait tho ^^ might bump you into my do not lynch pile with oneg now i really should sleep :/
why's onegu in a do not lynch pile? The guy's done nothing in the game this far. Until he actually makes some effort I don't see why he shouldn't be lynched as an inactive for instance. What makes you think he's worth keeping so far?
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well, quite frankly truffle, i'm not sure that there is anything i can do to make anyone believe i'm town with 0% chance of being scum lol you guys give my scum game too much credit around here for that
but as for my ows read, he was just sitting there asking questions when i asked him if he'd finished reading yet, because it was kinda obvious he hadn't. when i said "just spinning your wheels" i meant he was doing nothing of any significance. he gave a couple reads after that but it was pretty blah to me. maybe i should give him towncred for admitting he wasn't reading the game when i called him out on it but i don't really think it means anything when he was already caught with his hand in the cookie jar so to speak
as for hf, he and rit both just seem to be seeing the game similarly to the way i am. which either means they're town or i'm very wrong ^^ since i'm capable of being very wrong and they're capable of fooling me as scum, they get fun waffly disclaimers. tbf though i kinda feel like hf's approach here where he questions people and gives them room is more town indicative. i remember his scum play being more aggressive than this and this reminds me more of how he questioned slam in some town game that i forget. it might have been the one we were both nk'd n1 i don't remember
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On December 27 2015 17:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 17:14 rsoultin wrote:On December 27 2015 17:08 ExO_ wrote:
So far for me:
Town: Damdred, ritoky
Questionable: HF, trfel, artanis
When I pushed Damdred for responses, he answered me. I think he could've very easily brushed me off with the mood in the thread at the time, but he didn't. Good enough so far for me.
ritoky changed his logic and thinking on trfel mid post. Though I guess it's not necessarily alignment indicative I think backing off of trfel mid post as he types, seems towny to me. I don't see the incentive to do this if he was scum.
Artanis/trfel - I initially had them both as town reads. Both of them seem to be playing off each other. Artansis specifically asking trfel what he thinks about something, then trfel coming in. But when I took a closer look at the filter, trfel immediately after scum reading me (following in artanis's lead) backs off it when the thread starts to shift away from scum reading me. I lean town on these 2 for now, but I think they're the same alignment: either both town or both scum.
HF - Not a big fan of HF so far. Really pushing Vivax based only on his lack of responding. At first he was only questioning others without offering his own reads, but he did start to at least back up some of his reads in the bottom half of P1 in his filter. I'm not convinced this super heavy pushing of Vivax is entirely justified just yet. I think I really dislike HF's style of heavy asking questions rather than presenting a case, but this doesn't make him scum.
I think in general HF asks too many questions that ultimately don't help with solving the game, while simultaneously offering up very little of his (is it her? I seem to recall HF being a woman) own opinions. But if I recall correctly I've had this opinion of HF in other games and it was incorrect. I lean scum on HF but not very heavily.
Those are my initial impressions of people that have stuck out to me so far. i'd pout for old time's sake but honestly...eh i've been kinda not bothering with you either ^^ hihi! disagree on the vivax thing with hf, predominately because it is known that vivax will play as town and not as scum, though it's also true that viva has been mislynched for deliberately playing to his scum meta as town (no i don't understand why people use this cop out way of making themselves harder to read instead of just working on their scum game, but whatevs). that's all to say i think it's a legit enough read PLUS if hf is scum he'd 100% buss a scum viva who wasn't playing anyway, so this doesn't really matter imo i like that you're focusing on the big names instead of lynchbait tho ^^ might bump you into my do not lynch pile with oneg now i really should sleep :/ why's onegu in a do not lynch pile? The guy's done nothing in the game this far. Until he actually makes some effort I don't see why he shouldn't be lynched as an inactive for instance. What makes you think he's worth keeping so far?
gut feels i won't discuss at this time
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