EPTTo all the other dead people who might be reading along.
Fuck you.
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
To all the other dead people who might be reading along. Fuck you. | ||
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nooniansoong
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On January 04 2016 21:10 nooniansoong wrote: You find it weird that so calls nm a fucker even though he's never played with him. Why is that scummy? Looks like oo is spreading suspicion based on non existent reasoning. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 30 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote: Yes I argued and antagonized people and now you're going to explain how it's my mafia meta when half the forum knows its exactly the opposite Another callout of meta misrepresentation by Palmar. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Vote Count - Day 3 Alakaslam (6): ritoky, nooniansoong, sicklucker, Palmar, Onegu, ObviousOne Palmar (5): Coagulation, NocturneMage, GlowingBear, ExO_, Trfel Onegu (2): Alakaslam, NocturneMage (1): Damdred, GlowingBear (0): Trfel (0): ritoky (0): Not Voting (1): The Shining At this time, Alakaslam is slated to be lynched. Day 3 end in on Monday, Jan 04 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
so hes ok calling noct a fucker for no reason? to me itimplied a familiarity like ribbing a friend but then they d ont know eachother it just stands out as weird like i said | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On January 04 2016 23:55 NocturneMage wrote: Another callout of meta misrepresentation by Palmar. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... are you mafia? Because that's how mafia talk. If you just read like 4 posts on from this exact post, you'll see my reply: On December 30 2015 00:54 Palmar wrote: Why would I do that when I don't believe that myself? If I believed that was your mafia meta I'd be calling you mafia wouldn't I? You literally make no sense. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
It'll become scummy and shitty to call me mafia. That point is not here yet, but it will come. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 04 2016 23:58 ObviousOne wrote: so hes ok calling noct a fucker for no reason? to me itimplied a familiarity like ribbing a friend but then they d ont know eachother it just stands out as weird like i said So it's just weird and has zero bearing on either player's alignment? If it has some bearing, please explain why. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 05 2016 00:00 Palmar wrote: at some point this game. It'll become scummy and shitty to call me mafia. That point is not here yet, but it will come. its already here in my books | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On January 04 2016 23:58 ObviousOne wrote: so hes ok calling noct a fucker for no reason? to me itimplied a familiarity like ribbing a friend but then they d ont know eachother it just stands out as weird like i said I don't know why he calls me that, but I have never played with sicklucker. From the games I recall observing him he has very erratic posting behaviour but I didn't get an impression he was out to get me when he interacted with me. I personally thought the rolecop argument was really dumb but given what I know of him from observation, this wouldn't appear to be outside his town game, and making an assumption a relative newbie like myself (4 newbies, 1 non-newbie, not counting the 2 games in progress) with no other forum exposure to mafia - doesn't know what a rolecop is, isn't an unreasonable argument for town to make particularly when he looked my games up in the database. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On January 04 2016 23:59 Palmar wrote: like how can you make a point about me without reading the conversation? Here's the thing Palmar, you are raising justification (see Vivax's bolded statement) to shoot him. It's called context. If you're town, you want to shoot mafia. Duh. And I'm using that point against you because there's a pattern. Your reaction to Vivax's statement is honestly, irrelevant. Artanis made the same point against you. Vivax made the same point against you. Two different players in two different situations. You don't have to be explicitly calling someone mafia for that reaction to occur, you merely suggesting that is adequate cause for him to suggest what you are doing is problematic. I made the same logical point with Artanis, they know their own alignment/meta/etc. As both flipped green, we know we can trust what they are saying. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On January 05 2016 00:02 nooniansoong wrote: So it's just weird and has zero bearing on either player's alignment? If it has some bearing, please explain why. maybe it reflects on a negative state of mind from sl, what reason would he have for being upset about something at that point of the game and is it related? On January 03 2016 17:28 sicklucker wrote: i mean if noct is a stranger then the comment is definitely weird. if he's upset that the slot wasnt modkilled why take it out on the gracious replacement?so i came back expecting some good discussion but it was mostly people trying to figure out ness whos going to be mod killed... used your time better boys like i said its weird but its not alignment indicative unless it's pointing to potentially town for frustration with inactives or potentially scum for frustration that a townslot wasnt modkilled so weird is the best descriptor right now and its worth noting later whether or not the noct slot is mafia or not | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
Vivax was more of a "you're a moron so you should be shot". Remember also that town has no KP on n1 so it's irrelevant if I want him shot or not. At that point in the game I didn't assume we'd mislynch 2 days in a row and mafia would get all their kills through AND the town gun would shoot town. At that time I thought maybe we'd have time to clear out some trash (ie players who are probably not mafia but have done something ridiculously anti-town which would make it really tough to have them around in lylo. Like vivax). Like I want you to understand that vivax claimed JK. We apparently have an inattentive or stoic JK, but there's a bunch of people who as JK would have impulsively counterclaimed vivax, and therefore given mafia the jk on day 1. There's no way for me or vivax to know the JK is going to be someone who thinks things through/takes things slowly. They made the same point because they're parroting each other. Hell on day 2 half of town tried to call me mafia for switching off of confirmed mafia tictock, then he flipped town. The point is that everyone just uses whatever reasons they hear from somewhere in the thread. It's the reason this phenomenon I call "lynch inertia" exists. In fact, the lynch inertia is often so strong that I actually think I myself am probably a liability in lylo, simply because it's so easy for mafia to paint me as "someone who everyone has called mafia throughout the game". Like they can shed all responsibility and just lynch me, because it's much easier to say. "Well I'm uncertain so I'll just sheep artanis/rayn/koshi" than it is to build an actual case. The point is people will sheep reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that. But treating an individual reason as stronger because multiple individuals make them is bullshit. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 05 2016 00:18 Palmar wrote: Also where the fuck is shining, I thought he was useful at mafia. nope | ||
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