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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 21:32 GMT
#3601
On January 04 2016 00:19 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 00:08 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote:
That's 4 dumb votes on onegu today


why is onegu town again?


this is onegus town meta/play sadly. its not really slam/nocts etcs play
Why do you think that this is not Alakaslam's town play? What do Alakaslam's town and scum playstyles look like to you?

And can someone please respond to a single one of the questions I've spent the last 48 hours trying to get answered? Please?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2016 21:55 GMT
#3602
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2016 21:57 GMT
#3603
The way you are treating slam is very strange trfel. Can you explain your progress trfel.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 21:58 GMT
#3604
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 21:59 GMT
#3605
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.


It's more than him not wanting to get shot. It's that he rather get lynched than shot. I've been in the position that palmar is in as town so what he is saying rings true to me.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:00 GMT
#3606
On January 04 2016 06:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.


"isn't trying to solve the game" is exactly the type of generic wording scum loves to use when describing their fake scumreads.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 22:03 GMT
#3607
On January 04 2016 06:57 Damdred wrote:
The way you are treating slam is very strange trfel. Can you explain your progress trfel.
I thought that he was town, now I'm not sure.

I thought that he was town for activity and investment in the game. However, after his first series or two of posts, his activity dropped off a lot, and he hasn't felt interested in the game at all lately. His tone still seems towny as a whole, however Holyflare's point that Alakaslam was heavily scumreading N e s s but still giving him advice as if he were town looks quite strange, given the heavy tone contrast.

I really don't know what to think of Alakaslam, I'm simply not used to him playing the game as mafia. But I'm not really used to him playing the game as town, either...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 22:05 GMT
#3608
On January 04 2016 07:00 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 06:58 Trfel wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.


"isn't trying to solve the game" is exactly the type of generic wording scum loves to use when describing their fake scumreads.
Nooniansoong, can you please explain why you are scumreading me?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:07 GMT
#3609
On January 04 2016 07:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:00 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:58 Trfel wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.


"isn't trying to solve the game" is exactly the type of generic wording scum loves to use when describing their fake scumreads.
Nooniansoong, can you please explain why you are scumreading me?


See the post of mine you just quoted.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 22:09 GMT
#3610
On January 04 2016 07:07 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:05 Trfel wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:00 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:58 Trfel wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.


"isn't trying to solve the game" is exactly the type of generic wording scum loves to use when describing their fake scumreads.
Nooniansoong, can you please explain why you are scumreading me?


See the post of mine you just quoted.
So you don't think that mafia loves to quote a post from someone and say why it's scummy?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:11 GMT
#3611
i explained why it's scummy in the post. Your scumreads lack depth on thought.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 22:15 GMT
#3612
On January 04 2016 07:11 nooniansoong wrote:
i explained why it's scummy in the post. Your scumreads lack depth on thought.
You dodged the question that I asked.

In this post, I described why your play is focused on commenting instead of solving the game. You did not respond.

I've also pointed out several mindset/mentality contradictions in your play, which you also failed to respond to.

Care to respond to any or all?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:22 GMT
#3613
On January 04 2016 07:15 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:11 nooniansoong wrote:
i explained why it's scummy in the post. Your scumreads lack depth on thought.
You dodged the question that I asked.

In this post, I described why your play is focused on commenting instead of solving the game. You did not respond.

I've also pointed out several mindset/mentality contradictions in your play, which you also failed to respond to.

Care to respond to any or all?


I have very little interest in convincing you of my towniness because I think you're scum. But here goes..

Why am I focused on commenting instead of solving the game?
I am very focused on solving the game. Except I am mostly using process of elimination to determine a scumteam. When I can't read someone as town, I assume they are scum. So my case would be something like "there's nothing townie in his filter" rather than "there's something scummy in his filter." That is my a lot of my content has been going against other people's reads that I disagree with. I can argue why something isn't townie, or why something isn't scummy, but not really why something IS scummy.

Contradictions in my play..
In some instances I changed my mind without telling you guys about it. In others, you thought I scum or townread someone when I really didn't.

Townread me yet?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2016 22:29 GMT
#3614
On January 04 2016 06:59 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.


It's more than him not wanting to get shot. It's that he rather get lynched than shot. I've been in the position that palmar is in as town so what he is saying rings true to me.


Th I is palmar though and it's nai and while palmar would come in here saying yea I'm town I agree. You can't judge him on this metric. What else makes him town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2016 22:31 GMT
#3615
Though kush is coming off towny in this exchange tbh
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#3616
Read contradictions are one thing, mindset contradictions are another.

I will read your filter again from this perspective, and also assuming that your "solving the game" looks different from what I would expect, but I'm having a lot of trouble understanding this playstyle. I'll probably have to check some more meta
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#3617
On January 04 2016 07:31 Damdred wrote:
Though kush is coming off towny in this exchange tbh
Why?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#3618
On January 04 2016 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 06:59 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.


It's more than him not wanting to get shot. It's that he rather get lynched than shot. I've been in the position that palmar is in as town so what he is saying rings true to me.


Th I is palmar though and it's nai and while palmar would come in here saying yea I'm town I agree. You can't judge him on this metric. What else makes him town.


I dont think I have anything else. The read is not super strong lol.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 03 2016 22:37 GMT
#3619
Stop arguing with kush guys, he's clearly the cop
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 03 2016 22:38 GMT
#3620
On January 04 2016 01:53 NocturneMage wrote:
Alright, so if I am to trust Onegu's meta or your reads of his meta that he can do this as both alignments, then I'll switch my vote to Palmar. Confirmed mason is also pointing us in that direction last I saw, surely he can be trusted on top of all the NK WIFOM.

##unvote
##vote Palmar


I'll pick up reading the thread from where I left off.

The point about coagulation is super overjustified. It's guaranteed that not all the people who are calling me mafia are scum, so knowing that one random guy, who also happens to be terrible at mafia, should not in any way strengthen your vote.
Computer says mafia
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