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On January 02 2016 12:05 nooniansoong wrote:
ritoky..
Still not getting why that conversation is town. Can you explain it like I'm five?
The dumbtell.. he made masons prove they are masons. So? Scum know they are supposed to be suspicious. I think he was being overly and artificially suspicious if anything.
1) He confirms he has read the thread, and identifies that he understands that TT has been red checked and counterclaimed for his role.
2) Even though he understands that someone has been red checked and CC'd he wants to lynch Palmar because his dead TRs said so and would rather have a vigi (me) shoot TT.
3) I then explain to him why mechanically it makes no sense because 1 is from a source of definitive information (lulz) and the other is from a source of indefinite information.
4) He still resists saying he prefers palmar, and tries to justify why the alternative is bettter.
5) Amidst all of his explanation he has a underlying paranoia that another shennanie will happen if the lynch is on TT and that someone who he doesn't want lynched will get lynched so he would rather just lynch Palmar who is the person he wants.
Why does this shit make him town?
#1 pushback against a mechanically simple play, rather than accept something that at the time was accepted as fact he elects to push back. mafia are more apt to take the free lynch and not quibble a whole lot.
#2 illogical fear of shennanigans doesn't feel like it comes from mafia
#3 discussing alternatives when no one else was is a town trait. the thread had largely shut itself down to any other lynch.
#4 wanting palmar lynched and tt shot dumb tell
#5 quick and thought out responses that felt like they came from a place on honest concern. timers on responses: 11 mins, 5 mins, 9 mins. considering the amount he typed for each, i doubt as mafia he is that good at faking that much content that quickly and sounding that good.
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I looked in the op doesn't say if shots are refunded or not where do you get that from sl?
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the rest of my read is tonal and the way i felt as he was pushing back on me even though i felt i was thoroughly explaining to him why we should lynch a red checked and cc'd player and was getting progressively more confused why he wasn't understanding.
and unlike you i do buy the masons thing to a degree.
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On January 02 2016 12:22 Damdred wrote:
I looked in the op doesn't say if shots are refunded or not where do you get that from sl?
4th line from the bottom, 1st post.
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Kk I missed it
100% jk should protect rit so we don't lose the gun and just keep doing it until we get the rb.
Or rit wifoms scum I'll leave that to him.
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this is correct right?
On January 02 2016 09:37 ritoky wrote:
19 players - 14-5
if shoot worst case:
10 - 5 after N2
9 - 5 after D3
7 - 5 after N3
6 - 5 After D4 -> lost unless save
if not shoot worst case:
11 - 5 after N2
10 - 5 after D3
8 - 5 after N3
7 - 5 after D4
6 - 5 after N4
so missing costs us a ML right? can someone confirm?
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On January 02 2016 12:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 12:05 nooniansoong wrote:
ritoky..
Still not getting why that conversation is town. Can you explain it like I'm five?
The dumbtell.. he made masons prove they are masons. So? Scum know they are supposed to be suspicious. I think he was being overly and artificially suspicious if anything. 1) He confirms he has read the thread, and identifies that he understands that TT has been red checked and counterclaimed for his role. 2) Even though he understands that someone has been red checked and CC'd he wants to lynch Palmar because his dead TRs said so and would rather have a vigi (me) shoot TT. 3) I then explain to him why mechanically it makes no sense because 1 is from a source of definitive information (lulz) and the other is from a source of indefinite information. 4) He still resists saying he prefers palmar, and tries to justify why the alternative is bettter. 5) Amidst all of his explanation he has a underlying paranoia that another shennanie will happen if the lynch is on TT and that someone who he doesn't want lynched will get lynched so he would rather just lynch Palmar who is the person he wants. Why does this shit make him town? #1 pushback against a mechanically simple play, rather than accept something that at the time was accepted as fact he elects to push back. mafia are more apt to take the free lynch and not quibble a whole lot. #2 illogical fear of shennanigans doesn't feel like it comes from mafia #3 discussing alternatives when no one else was is a town trait. the thread had largely shut itself down to any other lynch. #4 wanting palmar lynched and tt shot dumb tell #5 quick and thought out responses that felt like they came from a place on honest concern. timers on responses: 11 mins, 5 mins, 9 mins. considering the amount he typed for each, i doubt as mafia he is that good at faking that much content that quickly and sounding that good.
1. All this sounds like an easy way for Exo to contribute while not having to scumhunt. Scum can discuss mechanics like anybody else.
Why does it matter to scum which of palmar or exo gets lynched and which gets shot? It doesn't So he picks what he thinks looks townier.
2. Illogical fear is scummy. It's illogical. It doesn't make sense. It's fake.
3. He did it because he thought it was an easy way to look town.
4. Don't see why that is townie.
5. He wasn't coming up with scumreads so it wasn't hard for him.
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On January 02 2016 12:37 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 12:21 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2016 12:05 nooniansoong wrote:
ritoky..
Still not getting why that conversation is town. Can you explain it like I'm five?
The dumbtell.. he made masons prove they are masons. So? Scum know they are supposed to be suspicious. I think he was being overly and artificially suspicious if anything. 1) He confirms he has read the thread, and identifies that he understands that TT has been red checked and counterclaimed for his role. 2) Even though he understands that someone has been red checked and CC'd he wants to lynch Palmar because his dead TRs said so and would rather have a vigi (me) shoot TT. 3) I then explain to him why mechanically it makes no sense because 1 is from a source of definitive information (lulz) and the other is from a source of indefinite information. 4) He still resists saying he prefers palmar, and tries to justify why the alternative is bettter. 5) Amidst all of his explanation he has a underlying paranoia that another shennanie will happen if the lynch is on TT and that someone who he doesn't want lynched will get lynched so he would rather just lynch Palmar who is the person he wants. Why does this shit make him town? #1 pushback against a mechanically simple play, rather than accept something that at the time was accepted as fact he elects to push back. mafia are more apt to take the free lynch and not quibble a whole lot. #2 illogical fear of shennanigans doesn't feel like it comes from mafia #3 discussing alternatives when no one else was is a town trait. the thread had largely shut itself down to any other lynch. #4 wanting palmar lynched and tt shot dumb tell #5 quick and thought out responses that felt like they came from a place on honest concern. timers on responses: 11 mins, 5 mins, 9 mins. considering the amount he typed for each, i doubt as mafia he is that good at faking that much content that quickly and sounding that good. 1. All this sounds like an easy way for Exo to contribute while not having to scumhunt. Scum can discuss mechanics like anybody else. Why does it matter to scum which of palmar or exo gets lynched and which gets shot? It doesn't So he picks what he thinks looks townier. 2. Illogical fear is scummy. It's illogical. It doesn't make sense. It's fake. 3. He did it because he thought it was an easy way to look town. 4. Don't see why that is townie. 5. He wasn't coming up with scumreads so it wasn't hard for him.
1. You don't read his posts as real conviction in wanting things to be done his way? I do, and it matters because I think palmar is scum and he wanted scum lynched before flipped blue.
2. Disagree, paranoia about shennanies happening on a red checked and cc'd person is the kinda fear that isn't scummy to me.
3. Could be.
4. Agree to disagree.
5. faking legitimacy takes time
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On January 02 2016 12:37 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 12:21 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2016 12:05 nooniansoong wrote:
ritoky..
Still not getting why that conversation is town. Can you explain it like I'm five?
The dumbtell.. he made masons prove they are masons. So? Scum know they are supposed to be suspicious. I think he was being overly and artificially suspicious if anything. 1) He confirms he has read the thread, and identifies that he understands that TT has been red checked and counterclaimed for his role. 2) Even though he understands that someone has been red checked and CC'd he wants to lynch Palmar because his dead TRs said so and would rather have a vigi (me) shoot TT. 3) I then explain to him why mechanically it makes no sense because 1 is from a source of definitive information (lulz) and the other is from a source of indefinite information. 4) He still resists saying he prefers palmar, and tries to justify why the alternative is bettter. 5) Amidst all of his explanation he has a underlying paranoia that another shennanie will happen if the lynch is on TT and that someone who he doesn't want lynched will get lynched so he would rather just lynch Palmar who is the person he wants. Why does this shit make him town? #1 pushback against a mechanically simple play, rather than accept something that at the time was accepted as fact he elects to push back. mafia are more apt to take the free lynch and not quibble a whole lot. #2 illogical fear of shennanigans doesn't feel like it comes from mafia #3 discussing alternatives when no one else was is a town trait. the thread had largely shut itself down to any other lynch. #4 wanting palmar lynched and tt shot dumb tell #5 quick and thought out responses that felt like they came from a place on honest concern. timers on responses: 11 mins, 5 mins, 9 mins. considering the amount he typed for each, i doubt as mafia he is that good at faking that much content that quickly and sounding that good. 1. All this sounds like an easy way for Exo to contribute while not having to scumhunt. Scum can discuss mechanics like anybody else. Why does it matter to scum which of palmar or exo gets lynched and which gets shot? It doesn't So he picks what he thinks looks townier. 2. Illogical fear is scummy. It's illogical. It doesn't make sense. It's fake. 3. He did it because he thought it was an easy way to look town. 4. Don't see why that is townie. 5. He wasn't coming up with scumreads so it wasn't hard for him.
I think I've done more scum hunting than you have. Esp. on day 1 you were largely out of the picture. The idea that I'm somehow scum out of this is more tinfoil hatty than any theory I've come up with so far this game
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From this exchange I have confirmed ritoky is town but still don't agree on Exo.
I don't think conviction is hard to fake.
#1 about palmar is a bad thing to base a read on because is making the assumptions that palmar is scum and that scum isn't busing.
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On January 02 2016 12:55 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 12:37 nooniansoong wrote:On January 02 2016 12:21 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2016 12:05 nooniansoong wrote:
ritoky..
Still not getting why that conversation is town. Can you explain it like I'm five?
The dumbtell.. he made masons prove they are masons. So? Scum know they are supposed to be suspicious. I think he was being overly and artificially suspicious if anything. 1) He confirms he has read the thread, and identifies that he understands that TT has been red checked and counterclaimed for his role. 2) Even though he understands that someone has been red checked and CC'd he wants to lynch Palmar because his dead TRs said so and would rather have a vigi (me) shoot TT. 3) I then explain to him why mechanically it makes no sense because 1 is from a source of definitive information (lulz) and the other is from a source of indefinite information. 4) He still resists saying he prefers palmar, and tries to justify why the alternative is bettter. 5) Amidst all of his explanation he has a underlying paranoia that another shennanie will happen if the lynch is on TT and that someone who he doesn't want lynched will get lynched so he would rather just lynch Palmar who is the person he wants. Why does this shit make him town? #1 pushback against a mechanically simple play, rather than accept something that at the time was accepted as fact he elects to push back. mafia are more apt to take the free lynch and not quibble a whole lot. #2 illogical fear of shennanigans doesn't feel like it comes from mafia #3 discussing alternatives when no one else was is a town trait. the thread had largely shut itself down to any other lynch. #4 wanting palmar lynched and tt shot dumb tell #5 quick and thought out responses that felt like they came from a place on honest concern. timers on responses: 11 mins, 5 mins, 9 mins. considering the amount he typed for each, i doubt as mafia he is that good at faking that much content that quickly and sounding that good. 1. All this sounds like an easy way for Exo to contribute while not having to scumhunt. Scum can discuss mechanics like anybody else. Why does it matter to scum which of palmar or exo gets lynched and which gets shot? It doesn't So he picks what he thinks looks townier. 2. Illogical fear is scummy. It's illogical. It doesn't make sense. It's fake. 3. He did it because he thought it was an easy way to look town. 4. Don't see why that is townie. 5. He wasn't coming up with scumreads so it wasn't hard for him. I think I've done more scum hunting than you have. Esp. on day 1 you were largely out of the picture. The idea that I'm somehow scum out of this is more tinfoil hatty than any theory I've come up with so far this game
Do you think I'm scum?
I don't say you are scum because of this. I say you aren't town. So I dont understand what's tinfoily about it.
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Clarification to my earlier post: My angle is that ritoky shouldn't be scumreading you for that, not that you are scum because of that.
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*ritoky sohuldn't be townreading you for that
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On January 02 2016 12:22 Damdred wrote:
I looked in the op doesn't say if shots are refunded or not where do you get that from sl?
from the op
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On January 02 2016 12:26 Damdred wrote:
Kk I missed it
100% jk should protect rit so we don't lose the gun and just keep doing it until we get the rb.
Or rit wifoms scum I'll leave that to him.
ya thats probably correct. hes also a likely nk
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sl you gonna tell me which of my reads is shit?
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you called me and gb scum
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On January 02 2016 12:59 nooniansoong wrote:
Clarification to my earlier post: My angle is that ritoky shouldn't be scumreading you for that, not that you are scum because of that.
who should i be town reading that i am not? (yourself excluded)
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On January 02 2016 13:25 sicklucker wrote:
you called me and gb scum
why is gb town? cuz he thinks hf is mafia?
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kinda not that i really think hf is mafia anymore
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