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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2016 13:32 GMT
#3301
So like 90% mafia 10% role we should find out if he dies =]
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 02 2016 14:02 GMT
#3302
Trfel shining exo slam look like mafia
ows oo maybe mafia

Probably forgetting about some peeps.

Just because nks scumread palmar doesn't mean palmar is dcum. That seems to be the scumteams primary argument for lynching him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 02 2016 14:06 GMT
#3303
obi- your just gonna have to trust me on this one. I have played alot of games with him and for him his contributions are huge and knowledgeable


Would you like to explain this read that ia factually incorrect and tell us how you got it?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 02 2016 14:09 GMT
#3304
Trfel
Lol I'm your strongest scum read.
I'm not going to refute that because I don't even mind.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
January 02 2016 14:58 GMT
#3305
sleep deprived mafia team based on not very much effort but it's up to date, i'll try to do better when i come back

ows
vivax
one of sl or slam
one of noon or palmar
maybe gb

could prob eliminate one more name if i was caffeinated enough but i doubt it.

thought about comparing this list to the dead guys filters from n1 maybe when i wake up tonight. from memory palmar was suspect but the rest i dont remember off the top of my empty skull
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:18 GMT
#3306
On January 02 2016 22:13 sicklucker wrote:obi- your just gonna have to trust me on this one. I have played alot of games with him and for him his contributions are huge and knowledgeable


Not really.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:19 GMT
#3307
I don't mind that you townread me but my contributions being super useful is completely untrue.
Not a fun thing to admit but it is what it is.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:20 GMT
#3308
I think I might join in with Hf and ask how you came to that conclusion actually?
iirc your earlier read on me was centered on the fact that I voted Tt but he wound up flipping town. How exactly does that read still carry over?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:21 GMT
#3309
On January 02 2016 19:23 Trfel wrote:ObiWanShinobi
+ Show Spoiler +
He's just.... not doing anything at all.

He's not making any useful thoughts, he's not being commanding, he's just following the lead that everyone else is providing. He's just doing whatever, not trying to solve the game.

One example of this is ObiWanShinobi's read on boxerfred. He initially said that people scumreading boxerfred for doing nothing is bad, because boxerfred did nothing and got mislynched for it as town. However, when boxerfred continued to be useless, Holyflare said that he wanted to lynch boxerfred on Day 3, and ObiWanShinobi said that he agreed without mentioning boxerfred in between.


I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:23 GMT
#3310
On January 02 2016 23:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Trfel shining exo slam look like mafia
ows oo maybe mafia

Probably forgetting about some peeps.

Just because nks scumread palmar doesn't mean palmar is dcum. That seems to be the scumteams primary argument for lynching him.


How so?
Can you elaborate on why we shouldn't lynch Palmar?

On January 02 2016 23:58 ObviousOne wrote:
sleep deprived mafia team based on not very much effort but it's up to date, i'll try to do better when i come back

ows
vivax
one of sl or slam
one of noon or palmar
maybe gb

could prob eliminate one more name if i was caffeinated enough but i doubt it.

thought about comparing this list to the dead guys filters from n1 maybe when i wake up tonight. from memory palmar was suspect but the rest i dont remember off the top of my empty skull


Why to any of these?
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2016 15:31 GMT
#3311
On January 02 2016 08:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I do remember people saying stuff like "he's not trying to solve the game" but that's mostly rhetoric and a ton of people haven't been doing anything recently.


On January 02 2016 08:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ritoky I don't understand what you're trying to shoot for with your bottom quote.
Can you elaborate more?


On January 02 2016 09:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I agree that Trfel post looks weird.


On December 28 2015 15:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 15:29 Trfel wrote:
Looks like I'm in for a very late night.

As of 30 pages ago, my reads were far too similar to sicklucker's for my liking, it seems like something is very wrong.


Any particular reason why or is the fact that they're similar the thing that's bugging you in and of itself?


On December 28 2015 23:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 15:59 Tictock wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax?


Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off.

Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it.

DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD


SOOOO BAD


We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now.


I like Obi a little this game...

I guess.


Any particular reason why? I'm not sure this quote means much and I'm pretty vain about stuff like that.


On December 28 2015 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.

Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand.
On December 28 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.

I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic.


Thinking this might actually make you mafia ftr.


On December 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 23:40 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.

Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand.
On December 28 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.

I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic.


Thinking this might actually make you mafia ftr.


Can you be precise about what you didn't understand?


I'm going to answer your question with a question - why is it relevant?


On December 29 2015 06:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
would still vote gb ftr ego boost ho!


Why, exactly? Forgive me if I missed your reasoning.


On December 29 2015 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh btw, I really don't think noon is kush but maybe I'm just a crazy person.



And scum reading artanis is something mafia would never do esp as there about to kill him

On December 29 2015 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh btw, I think Artanis is mafia as well.
Normally I just ignore people tunneling me for terrible reasons but the point I raised earlier still stands:

Like this is from page 2-3 of your filter. Everypost is a question or important statement compared to your afk/lurk give up and do nothing mafia meta this is when I got that read ill admit you been slacking since but your still town

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 16:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?"
It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now.


I still think this is totally irrational and scummy.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2016 15:31 GMT
#3312
Like this is from page 2-3 of your filter. Everypost is a question or important statement compared to your afk/lurk give up and do nothing mafia meta this is when I got that read ill admit you been slacking since but your still town
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 02 2016 15:34 GMT
#3313
On January 03 2016 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 23:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Trfel shining exo slam look like mafia
ows oo maybe mafia

Probably forgetting about some peeps.

Just because nks scumread palmar doesn't mean palmar is dcum. That seems to be the scumteams primary argument for lynching him.


How so?
Can you elaborate on why we shouldn't lynch Palmar?



He knows I'm not mafia. There is no way I believe that when I have for some reason played in a way where literally everyone scumreads me that kush is the hero who actually makes the right call.

He's probably either mafia himself (and playing his classic TMI card) or he's the cop and actually checked me n1.
Computer says mafia
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:35 GMT
#3314
On January 03 2016 00:31 sicklucker wrote:
Like this is from page 2-3 of your filter. Everypost is a question or important statement compared to your afk/lurk give up and do nothing mafia meta this is when I got that read ill admit you been slacking since but your still town


I think several people would contest you on my "do nothing" mafia meta.
But otherwise, fine I guess.
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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 02 2016 15:37 GMT
#3315
On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?


Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them

As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:42 GMT
#3316
On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?


Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them

As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything.


I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.)

I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter.
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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 02 2016 15:43 GMT
#3317
On January 03 2016 00:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote:
On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?


Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them

As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything.


I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.)

I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter.


and how do you know scum isnt going to shoot you?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 02 2016 15:45 GMT
#3318
There isn't really anything to do Exo. Since Onegu's claim yesterday the game has mostly been on autopilot. We had to lynch tictock based on the information available (although I want to mention that yesterday I'm fairly certain a couple of people used tictock flipping mafia and me participating in the shennies off of him was indicative of me being scum, clearly that was not true).

Now we have to lynch Onegu and Damdred, although they should 100% focus on not defending themselves but to try to build cases on people who they think might be scum. The best way to convince me to not lynch them is to make someone else a higher lynch target priority.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2016 15:54 GMT
#3319
On January 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:
There isn't really anything to do Exo. Since Onegu's claim yesterday the game has mostly been on autopilot. We had to lynch tictock based on the information available (although I want to mention that yesterday I'm fairly certain a couple of people used tictock flipping mafia and me participating in the shennies off of him was indicative of me being scum, clearly that was not true).

Now we have to lynch Onegu and Damdred, although they should 100% focus on not defending themselves but to try to build cases on people who they think might be scum. The best way to convince me to not lynch them is to make someone else a higher lynch target priority.


You cant possibly believe this... Just because people do things people dont like does not make them scum. Now we may or may not lynch them. but using wifmo meta on someone who you yourself admitted claimed mafia is pointless sounds. They were both attempting to take obvious role bullets. I doubt dandred does that as scum but onegu might be that retarded
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 02 2016 15:54 GMT
#3320
On January 03 2016 00:43 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 00:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote:
On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum.


Elaborate pls?


Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them

As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything.


I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.)

I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter.


and how do you know scum isnt going to shoot you?


Nobody ever shoots me, especially not after how lazy I've been recently.
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