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On December 29 2015 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 21:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 29 2015 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 20:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 29 2015 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care. If he lives he is scum. If he lives and is not scum then the scumteam is retarded. If I was scum here I rb him shoot me/rso/damdred and let you tunnel him alll day. Okay work now. Yeah you know like.... When D2 starts people will vote for Vivax. Then he claims jailkeeper again. Then when noone counter-claims him he becomes confirmed town. Or mafia can counter-claim him and trade 1-1 which is in your opinion better than just get rid of the fucking blue town role who is going to be confirmed town on D2?!?!? Right Artanis? srsly? I presumed that the very fact of him still being alive would be enough for you to push him even without a CC. Thought we were dealing with the true tunnelrayn. Very well, carry on. Still think he can be green though. I might wanna lynch stupid even when it's not sure it hits scum, but i am not completely retarded.... Vivax is not green, never. Never ever. Would you like to bet on that?
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Yes rayn should offer a bottle of single malt in the case he's wrong on me. Artanis will have some noble drink on NYE
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My filter is too big. I will follow rayn or his list. Looked legit. I will try to make 1 post on D2.
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Okay, turning my phone off because this is terrible. Also
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/mcqis/d2ede1ee73.png) See y'all after work.
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I think it's even within the rules to bet that way, since simply betting on my alignment doesn't really give you benefits in the game.
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And then I turned my mobile on again to see Rayn's response. Both disappointed in him and myself. Here's my suggestion: If Vivax is mafia, I owe you a drink. If Vivax is VT, you owe me one. If he's blue or one of us is JK/scum it's a wash.
Deal?
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Here's a bit of the state of the game:
Rayn, HF, Koshi and to a slight degree Palmar are the frothing warhounds of this game. It is my priority to make that appear absurd. Of these HF and Palmar are scummy but since they usually get sorted out by NKs it's not really a priority.
Ritoky is the follower of this bunch, the pilot fish. Not unlikely to be mafia for this.
Artanis, SL, Kush, Shining, Damdred are fine gentlemen and people you should listen to in order to win this game. If theres a sneaky mafia in here it could be Shining or Damdred.
I don't think the others fit into such categories yet, will post my thoughts on them later.
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For some reason HF has now 10 pages of filter. This is annoying.
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I am a frothing warhound? I havent done anything.
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HF did call GB mafia at 100% the correct time and in the correct way too.
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On December 29 2015 23:04 Palmar wrote: HF did call GB mafia at 100% the correct time and in the correct way too.
Best case on HF ive seen so far
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Palmar how do you read me?
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Tbh after rereading Plammar I don't find him that scummy any more. If he keeps wanting me dead tho I'll have to pull out the dirty tricks to change his mind
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Status report thing:
Town:
Coag (mason) Rsoultin (mason)
Maybe Town:
rayn: he's annoyingly suspicious of me but most of the other things he has done this game look like town rayn. He's agitated but involved. He doesn't take bullshit and he does the thing which he always does as town. When he called me out based on the switch to Vivax thing earlier today it was a super red text/green text rayn moment, even if it was based on him misunderstanding Exo: I'm less sure because he hasn't done jack shit today and I feel like he was not much involved yesterday. However I think the point I made yesterday about his paranoid scenario regarding the masons is still much more likely to come from town. Koshi: He lead the shennies which isn't scummy at all. He's also been spiteful and tonally "correct" this game. He isn't timid and doesn't ask shitty questions. It's mostly a tone read but still, I think it's ok.
Maaaaaaaaybe town:
HF: He hasn't said anything particularly annoying that I've noticed, and I also feel like he isn't actively looking for a fight which he does a ton as mafia. He off-handedly called GB mafia yesterday in such a casual way. He's perfectly capable of playing like this as mafia, but if I try to not be too paranoid I'd probably bet on town.
Trfel: He said something at some point that I liked. I can't really remember what or why, but I'm trusting my earlier read until I have a reason not to
Other people I know something about but don't really have an opinion on:
Vivax: Should be shot. Can't be allowed to live until lylo, but I have no idea if he's scum or just a moron. Ritoky: He made a case that I didn't read, but at least he made a case so... idk? Damdred: I don't remember him saying anything particularly intelligent which is a good way to townread him, and I feel like he's been background-y and meh. But I also know that usually when I think Damdred is mafia he isn't.
People I haven't read/don't remember/decided to ignore
Onegu sicklucker OO Moosey boxerfred ness Slam Obiwan Shining Ticktock
There's probably quite a few mafia in this list. if I'm wrong about 1-2 of my scummy people there's 2-4 mafia in the peopel that I've ignored because that's the way it always is. I'll try to work on this list tonight and tomorrow if I'm alive.
Maybe scum:
Kush: Bad vote on me, called out Exo for things he didn't understand. He's been pretty shit all over Artanis: he's being super reasonable and willing to listen to people. I know he isn't rayn or some other tunnel god, but still, it's a bit over the top how much he's trying to let other people form their own opinions and barely prodding it. Just like yesterday I didn't read his ows case I haven't read hf today and he doesn't really seem to care.
Probably scum:
GlowingBear: called me out in a really awkward way yesterday and then got into a argument I think. The main thing is that he was reading a conversation about a thing, and then asked about the very thing the conversation was about. It's 100% clear he wasn't actually reading the part of the thread he asked about, he just saw something and ran with it.
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On December 29 2015 23:16 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar how do you read me? you have your answer
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Good morning. If I get a gun I am 100% shooting Tictock or Moosey, but I highly doubt I'll get one which is fine.
I'll be trying to follow along at work again but I have nothing to do this evening so I'll try to consolidate some thoughts during the dayphase when I inevitably don't get shot.
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On December 29 2015 18:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 15:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Personal lynch candidates for tomorrow: - Ritoky
- ObiWanShinobi
- TicTock
- HolyFlare
I don't really have good reasons to want to lynch HF yet other than him being the strongest active player I'm not townreading and some tone shit yet. Also need to go through Palmar a bit better. Personal don't ever lynch list: - Masons
- Rayn
- Damdred
- SL
- ExO_
- Trfel
- Koshi (much to my dismay)
Probably also don't lynch Vivax, GB and Ness though I'm getting a bit less sure of the latter. I kind of agree with the town part of this list, the exceptions being Damdred and SL. I think Koshi is very likely to be town, I know he can do the spiteful thing against Vivax as both alignments, but it seems more likely he's town because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck. Trfel said something I liked, I can't remember exactly what, but I remember him talking when I came to the thread yesterday. Rayn seems agitated/interested enough and I've already explained why ExO is town. I haven't really read Damdred, it feels like he's been sort of background-y throughout the game, and I just ignore everything SL says because he's bad. As for the mafia part, it's really 4 people I haven't read that much. If HF is calling me mafia he might be one though. TickTock I'd sheep for rayn if he asked me. OWS I haven't read but I can't remember a single thing he posted so he could very well be mafia. Or well, he said he liked me, I like that. I think I saw ritoky make a huge case on someone though I didn't read it in detail. I thought that in general tryhard ritoky is town, but it's not really a read, more of an assumption
You don't portray this scum read on me in this post. What happened? Did you forget your read on me?
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On December 29 2015 23:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 18:31 Palmar wrote:On December 29 2015 15:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Personal lynch candidates for tomorrow: - Ritoky
- ObiWanShinobi
- TicTock
- HolyFlare
I don't really have good reasons to want to lynch HF yet other than him being the strongest active player I'm not townreading and some tone shit yet. Also need to go through Palmar a bit better. Personal don't ever lynch list: - Masons
- Rayn
- Damdred
- SL
- ExO_
- Trfel
- Koshi (much to my dismay)
Probably also don't lynch Vivax, GB and Ness though I'm getting a bit less sure of the latter. I kind of agree with the town part of this list, the exceptions being Damdred and SL. I think Koshi is very likely to be town, I know he can do the spiteful thing against Vivax as both alignments, but it seems more likely he's town because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck. Trfel said something I liked, I can't remember exactly what, but I remember him talking when I came to the thread yesterday. Rayn seems agitated/interested enough and I've already explained why ExO is town. I haven't really read Damdred, it feels like he's been sort of background-y throughout the game, and I just ignore everything SL says because he's bad. As for the mafia part, it's really 4 people I haven't read that much. If HF is calling me mafia he might be one though. TickTock I'd sheep for rayn if he asked me. OWS I haven't read but I can't remember a single thing he posted so he could very well be mafia. Or well, he said he liked me, I like that. I think I saw ritoky make a huge case on someone though I didn't read it in detail. I thought that in general tryhard ritoky is town, but it's not really a read, more of an assumption You don't portray this scum read on me in this post. What happened? Did you forget your read on me?
uh what? you are not in Artanis' list so why would I talk about you in my post?
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oh wait, you vivax and ness are there.
well I was commenting on the people in the lists.
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Oh btw, I think Artanis is mafia as well. Normally I just ignore people tunneling me for terrible reasons but the point I raised earlier still stands:
On December 29 2015 16:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: At what point does someone go "my top scumreads are trying to kill each other so they're both scum?" It makes no sense. It didn't make sense before and it doesn't make sense now.
I still think this is totally irrational and scummy.
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