EPTOUTLAW MINI MAFIA - Page 113
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Btw, because I'm already scummy. I'm going to direct blues for a bit. Gunsmiths: it's super duper important you give your guns to non-retards. Give them to people who know how to use vigilante roles. Here's a guide for those who want to become good vigilantes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/232671-how-to-play-vigilante-and-how-to-play-cop Also, because I'm tired of everyone's shit, I wouldn't mind getting cop checked at all. I normally say it's a waste but I might not have the energy to argue myself out of a lynch this game (and the deadline is literally at 23:00 new year's eve my time... so I will be drunk and playing with fireworks instead of playing mafia). | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On December 29 2015 18:49 ExO_ wrote: yes it was. I went to sleep about 2 hours before EoD, which is why I said a couple of hours. This whole thing went down so suddenly. So I'll walk you through where I'm at right now: Palmar just switched out of the blue. No explanation. I want one. Koshi's vote change seems suspect to me as well. I don't see why he did it. Damdred's vote change is shitty, but at least he was talking about rel prior to the last second vote swapping Ritoky literally calls that if TT is scum he'll come in and talk at the last second and get it switched to someone else. Then helps this precise thing to happen. What the fuck. I could keep going but basically everyone flip flopped without explaining why. I get that it was last second but it seems fucked up. Damdred is the only person that I see that showed interest in rels before hand. So what I'm sitting here trying to figure out, is what motivation does mafia team have to make all of these vote shenanigans happen if TT isn't scum? I can't come up with anything that is super reasonable. If TT is mafia, then I can understand the last second vote switching (giving very little time for reaction/discussion.) I think it's possible mafia saw damdred and somebody else say rels and ran a gamble to pull votes off TT. But it all hinges on TT being mafia. If he isn't then I'm at a bit of a loss. I think TT should be our next lynch (at least for now) because if he is mafia it'll really help to clear things up, and if he isn't mafia it'll at least provide more information to work with. The other thing I'm really struggling with, is HF jumping onto the TT wagon at the end. Is he scum trying to earn a bit of town cred by saying he tried to save the mislynch, or is he town actually trying to prevent a last second vote swap off a target that he himself didn't think was worth voting for. idk, was such a stupid vote switch and it's messing with my ability to think it through :/ This post feels off to me. If there is mafia bussing me like you seem to be assuming, why would they wait till last min to seriously start a wagon on someone else? Especially given that it would have been far easier to follow Rayn back onto Vivax much earlier or something. + Show Spoiler + Honestly I don't think mafia would ever need to bus a teammate D1 in a game like this. Hell me and Tube carried Vivax into D3 with a <2page filter last game. Despite my deep desire to bus the shit out of him. Why is it impossible I'm town and so were most of the people pulling shenannies? Rit also explained why he switched, but you still seem to be upset with him. Did you not like his reasoning? Making a mental note to reread your filter tomorrow. You've had some skewed thinking this game. | ||
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Vivax
22122 Posts
On December 29 2015 19:07 ExO_ wrote: Vivax I want to think you are town, but Jesus Christ dude you just keep roaming in and out of the thread trying to sound clever like some kind of talking fortune cookie. It's not helping a player like me, because to me it seems like you can't be arsed to try to convince anybody else why your thoughts are right. It's just "I'm right and if you don't agree you're stupid".....well fucking great! It's not making anything you say more plausible to me. After the start of this game with HFs laughable push and people actually believing that push it should be obvious that my attitude towards those players won't be friendly. I don't even have to play towards win condition this game so I decided to be lazy, to belittle the massive egos of Plammar/rayn and co., and just generally be obnoxious for my own fun. Meanwhile doing actual scumhunting in between, I think TT is still easily mafia and so is Moosy | ||
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Vivax
22122 Posts
On December 29 2015 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can keep bashing on me and everyone as much as you want but anyone who is intelligent knows it's ridiculous because the only reason you are most likely not lynched at this point is because you claimed a role which is -- given the way you are going about this -- hilarious in the first place, as you LITERALLY played SO FUCKING BAD you almost got yourself lynched on D1 in a 25 player game. So yeah, you should probably just stfu regardless of your affiliation because your play was bad, not anyone's who suspected / suspects you. I didnt play bad, you played badly by first getting pocketed by scum HF and then by flat out ignoring that im never this active as scum. | ||
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Vivax
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
Proving HF is scum would fall under stuff and be useful. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Also I like exo's post on ritoky that's pretty good evidence for him being mafia if he knew TT does this as mafia but switched anyway, especially as TT's posts weren't convincing at all. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:05 Holyflare wrote: Hey artanis can you explain how you go from townreading me to putting me in a lynch list? Doesn't quite make sense. Also I like exo's post on ritoky that's pretty good evidence for him being mafia if he knew TT does this as mafia but switched anyway, especially as TT's posts weren't convincing at all. I've been saying I'm kinda tonereading you as scum for a while now. Already said before I didn't have any concrete reasons for it so I haven't really pushed it much. Just feels like the aggression with which you post and the places you poke at feel more likely to be scum. Not something you can do or say much with so I haven't really expanded or pushed on it yet. Currently can go either way and the main reason you're on the lynch list is because I want people to look into you as I'm far from certain I can read you. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
With TT the guy who I tried to kill. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:15 Holyflare wrote: Because from what I see is in your filter you town read me and then retract it because I follow my town meta and then somehow when I do the opposite to what you call me scummy for you still have me in a lynch list? With TT the guy who I tried to kill. It's not based on the what, but the how. Feels bro. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I think hf is town and gb mafia raym because clealy hf is pushing logically and gb isn't! I think hf is town because he's pushing his main wagon and looking at other people. I think hf might be mafia because despite his progression on ness he definitely just judged thread interest and backed off even though a lot of people think ness was scummy. I think hf is mafia because he's not aggressive. Even though I think he's not aggressive which is his town meta he's mafia. Now he's arguing with gb and vivax and lynching ticktock despite shenanigans he's still mafia. I'm not really sure I can follow the logic so please correct me if I'm wrong and explain what your read actually is. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:20 Holyflare wrote: I mean the reasons your filter state: I think hf is town and gb mafia raym because clealy hf is pushing logically and gb isn't! I think hf is town because he's pushing his main wagon and looking at other people. I think hf might be mafia because despite his progression on ness he definitely just judged thread interest and backed off even though a lot of people think ness was scummy. I think hf is mafia because he's not aggressive. Even though I think he's not aggressive which is his town meta he's mafia. Now he's arguing with gb and vivax and lynching ticktock despite shenanigans he's still mafia. I'm not really sure I can follow the logic so please correct me if I'm wrong and explain what your read actually is. I thought your original approach was townie. My main issue with you is feeling there's a discrepancy between the way you post and what intuitively would make sense to me. You're tonally inconsistent in a way that suggests to me that some of it is feigned. I can't be more specific right now because I'm on my phone as I blocked TL on my laptop so I wouldn't actually get myself distracted during work (lol look how thats working out for me). You are not my favoured lynch. That would be OWS. You are however suspicious and I would like people to look into you. I will do the same after work. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 28 2015 01:46 Onegu wrote: Also I thought this was supposed to be a mini... I hate large games. Onegu is probably scum based on this post alone, considering: .... he made this post before the game start. Sooooo... Before game he knows the game is already growing to be > mini game and then in game he complains about shit because "he thought this was a mini". So yeah, the list of very very scummerosios grow: Vivax Plammer kush boxerfred Ness (or TicTock) Lynch those guys and i promise you'll hit at least 3 scum, easily, probably more. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
If you get him lynched and he's somehow actually scum I will profusely apologize. I doubt it though. Not only due to the claim and unclaim timing but also his extreme cockiness. If he's scum he wouldn't keep antagonizing you, no point. | ||
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