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On December 29 2015 18:26 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 18:16 ExO_ wrote:Ritoky care to explain: On December 29 2015 04:41 ritoky wrote:
well and TT did this last game where some1 made a case on him, he had lynch pressure, then he spammed a bunch of posts for some TRs, then fucked off. spoiler: he was mafia in that game.
i really wanna vote vivax with rayn tho, but i pretty much agree with HF that i think he is just JK doing some dumb shit. this is exactly what just happened. You called it, and yet you still switched. (I'm currently on page 93, but if you switched after saying this there better be a damn good explanation) This has happened D1 in the last 3 games I played. Huanted Mansion - I was Town Nutcraker - I was Mafia And now here. Though I'm amazed that Rels actually got lynched over me. It's funny you said "swapped in a couple hours" in an earlier post kus it was more a matter of minuets that it all went down.
yes it was. I went to sleep about 2 hours before EoD, which is why I said a couple of hours. This whole thing went down so suddenly. So I'll walk you through where I'm at right now:
Palmar just switched out of the blue. No explanation. I want one.
Koshi's vote change seems suspect to me as well. I don't see why he did it.
Damdred's vote change is shitty, but at least he was talking about rel prior to the last second vote swapping
Ritoky literally calls that if TT is scum he'll come in and talk at the last second and get it switched to someone else. Then helps this precise thing to happen. What the fuck.
I could keep going but basically everyone flip flopped without explaining why. I get that it was last second but it seems fucked up. Damdred is the only person that I see that showed interest in rels before hand.
So what I'm sitting here trying to figure out, is what motivation does mafia team have to make all of these vote shenanigans happen if TT isn't scum? I can't come up with anything that is super reasonable. If TT is mafia, then I can understand the last second vote switching (giving very little time for reaction/discussion.) I think it's possible mafia saw damdred and somebody else say rels and ran a gamble to pull votes off TT.
But it all hinges on TT being mafia. If he isn't then I'm at a bit of a loss. I think TT should be our next lynch (at least for now) because if he is mafia it'll really help to clear things up, and if he isn't mafia it'll at least provide more information to work with.
The other thing I'm really struggling with, is HF jumping onto the TT wagon at the end. Is he scum trying to earn a bit of town cred by saying he tried to save the mislynch, or is he town actually trying to prevent a last second vote swap off a target that he himself didn't think was worth voting for.
idk, was such a stupid vote switch and it's messing with my ability to think it through :/
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Out of curiosity, did you switch to Vivax simply because he unclaimed rayn?
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Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated.
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ebwop:
the stupid vote switch I'm referring to is the mass vote switch to rels. As much as I dislike HF I'd hate for him to assume I'm antagonizing him over this specifically, at least not yet.
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On December 29 2015 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated.
so why did you switch then? You didn't even post in the main thread that you were switching
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Dance Palmar, dance! *pew pew*
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On December 29 2015 18:57 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated. so why did you switch then? You didn't even post in the main thread that you were switching
I thought I did?
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On December 29 2015 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated.
and continuing on this line of thought, if it is in mafia's favor am I supposed to believe that 9 townies switched their votes at the last second? I don't think I do
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You and rayn are pretty bad and should just listen to Artanis who managed to reach the next level in the evolution of TL mafia, but if you must keep posting your second class opinions
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oh, I didn't.
Well sorry about that.
I already explained why I switched.
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On December 29 2015 18:59 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated. and continuing on this line of thought, if it is in mafia's favor am I supposed to believe that 9 townies switched their votes at the last second? I don't think I do
No absolutely not, there's definitely mafia in there. It's just not me.
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On December 29 2015 18:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 18:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2015 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated. so why did you switch then? You didn't even post in the main thread that you were switching I thought I did?
On December 29 2015 07:44 Palmar wrote:
On phone don't think I'll be at a computer before deadline. Very willing to shennie onto gb or kush
that's about it. No mention of rels or anything else.
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On December 29 2015 19:00 Vivax wrote:
You and rayn are pretty bad and should just listen to Artanis who managed to reach the next level in the evolution of TL mafia, but if you must keep posting your second class opinions
No Vivax, you are bad if you are town in this game.
So gtfo.
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On December 29 2015 19:01 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 18:59 Palmar wrote:On December 29 2015 18:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2015 18:56 Palmar wrote:
Exo, it's always in mafia's favour to have chaos. I know this sounds hypocritical, but it's usually great for mafia to have town do these last minute shenanigan switches because it reduces reasoning and discussion to something very low level (my own reasoning being an example, I literally voted someone for having a less than 2 page filter).
So even if TT is town, this was good for mafia, especially if in the process people who aren't mafia (me, for example) are being implicated. so why did you switch then? You didn't even post in the main thread that you were switching I thought I did? Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 07:44 Palmar wrote:
On phone don't think I'll be at a computer before deadline. Very willing to shennie onto gb or kush that's about it. No mention of rels or anything else.
No I didn't
I meant to post something like "Rels has a 1 page filter so fuck it". Apparently I didn't. I just posted that remark about his lack of enthusiasm for the game (who so desperately needs to sleep in the next 3 minutes he doesn't stay up for the lynch?)
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On December 29 2015 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 19:00 Vivax wrote:
You and rayn are pretty bad and should just listen to Artanis who managed to reach the next level in the evolution of TL mafia, but if you must keep posting your second class opinions No Vivax, you are bad if you are town in this game. So gtfo.
Artanis evaluates me overall and reaches the correct conclusion with little effort.
You and Palmar focus on the shitty claim and HFs laughable two post case plus the other stuff he tends to throw on top as the game goes on and he needs to forge arguments.
You are bad, artanis isnt.
What I am, that's to be seen
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Well hey at least i didnt lynch rels like plammar did.
He has townie blood on his hands
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Artanis is being super reasonable. I'm actually a tiny bit paranoid that he's being too reasonable. Rayn is ready to bludgeon me to death but artanis calmly waits for my explanation. Combined with the lack of enthusiasm there is a chance Artanis is mafia.
who knows
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On December 29 2015 19:04 Vivax wrote:
Well hey at least i didnt lynch rels like plammar did.
He has townie blood on his hands
You're bad.
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Vivax I want to think you are town, but Jesus Christ dude you just keep roaming in and out of the thread trying to sound clever like some kind of talking fortune cookie. It's not helping a player like me, because to me it seems like you can't be arsed to try to convince anybody else why your thoughts are right. It's just
"I'm right and if you don't agree you're stupid".....well fucking great! It's not making anything you say more plausible to me.
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You can keep bashing on me and everyone as much as you want but anyone who is intelligent knows it's ridiculous because the only reason you are most likely not lynched at this point is because you claimed a role which is -- given the way you are going about this -- hilarious in the first place, as you LITERALLY played SO FUCKING BAD you almost got yourself lynched on D1 in a 25 player game.
So yeah, you should probably just stfu regardless of your affiliation because your play was bad, not anyone's who suspected / suspects you.
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