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Holyflare
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It means it's probably better than the option I just gave | ||
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GlowingBear
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On December 29 2015 08:50 GlowingBear wrote: [/big]To be fair, you're right regarding the votes. Looking at the vote count again it was impossible to know who was leading. I'll give you that But I don't understand why you [big[consider just shooting Tictock at night 2 instead if lynching him? | ||
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GlowingBear
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Holyflare
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GlowingBear
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On December 29 2015 08:56 Holyflare wrote: because either way you net the same result you tool So you will definitely lynch TT tomorrow? | ||
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Holyflare
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GlowingBear
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GlowingBear
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On December 29 2015 08:57 Holyflare wrote: no I won't definitely do anything Lol ok HF I will stop going against you because I am just cluttering the thread to keep pushing the same old information. People already know what I find scummy in you so there's that. Let's assume we are both town. If that's so, who's more likely to be Mafia? I know you've posted a list but I'm asking you to work under this assumption | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Step 1) Take your name off the list. Step 2) ??????????????????? What kind of redundant question are you asking? | ||
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GlowingBear
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On December 29 2015 09:40 Holyflare wrote: like wtf kind of question is that "I know you made a list of mafia but if I'm not in it then who is mafia?"???????????? Step 1) Take your name off the list. Step 2) ??????????????????? What kind of redundant question are you asking? Considering I'm not Mafia, your perspective of the game could change???? Jesus... | ||
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Holyflare
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ExO_
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Fucking great job whoever turned the wagon off TT | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On December 29 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all there is this: This post is non-commital as hell. There is the read on Koshi that is never going to be warranted at this point of the game. There is just no way TT thinks Koshi is town here. No. Then the GB read. If TT thinks GB is town for his posting why does he feel the need to tell he doesn't necessarily actually think GB is town? It's like... he is in the both sides of his own argument... Let's see what he says about Ness and noonian then: Now the first thing TT says makes sense. But the quotes he bring up don't make any sense at all because he doesn't even explain what is scummy in them. I personally don't find anything scummy in them. TT townreads Exo himself, why does he bring up a quote where Ness calls Exo town? Why is it scummy Ness finds sicklucker most likely mafia? Why is it scummy that he townreads GB now? This chain of quotes --> Ness is mafia doesn't make any sense because the quotes are logical and there is no contradiction in them. Then he calls kush scum for the smurf thing when it has already been explained when and how kush blew his smurf, which makes this post.. ... a very bad defense. Not only was he not reading the thread when he made the kush read, he is also not even trying to understand what happens in the thread at any point. Look at the defense, seriously, it is so stupid i can't even..... Another instance of this is this one: Look at this post and what i say there in comparison to why TT called Ness mafia. Does it look like he "pointed out what i did before"????? Fucking no! First of all we are talking about completely different things (well i don't even know what TT is talking about because he is just quoting some posts and not explaining what there is there). He possibly cannot talk about same thing i do because what i am talking about happened mostly after TT had made his post about Ness!!!! Therefore it's literally impossible he is talking about the same thing i am (or that he thinks so) -- it's just fucking impossible he thinks so. So, again, this is just a half-assed try to defend himself based NOT on why he did what he did but instead due to some association to his posting that could possibly look similar (when it even doesn't -- and he fucking should know that). So yeah, there it is. Also go read ritoky's case. Here: + Show Spoiler + On December 28 2015 15:41 ritoky wrote: So basically TT made some bullshit read progression last game on a new player that he totally never makes as town. basically he made an awakward joke then randomly backed out of a town read over literal nothing and over-explained why he did so. He hasn't quite done that this game, but he has some elements going on. Like is this a joke or is it serious? Normally I just assume this is 100% a joke, but GB is one of those assholes who would claim scum as scum or claim cop as cop just to dick around. He would also do both as VT for the same reason. So it very well could be him using some meta and taking it actually serious. And if it is not serious then it isn't really funny and it is a shitty joke...shitty jokes actually tend more toward scum. Bold #1: Firstly I just disagree with this pretty strongly. Secondly, his eventual reason for this read is "you ask questions and then don't conclude things" (which btw after this post you don't really do either of those things) which is the most vague and gray goo accusation of a new player ever. It feels like you pulled it out of a box. Bold #2: This is the part that really blows my mind. Why the fuck koshi? Of all people, why koshi? I say this ENTIRELY because of the last game. To give you context: in nutcracker koshi opened the game with the literal exact same post basically and attempted to hold to it; after approximately 12 hours he crumbled and started spamming the thread (or the equiv of spamming in a post limit game). #1) If you're going to base your read off of koshi making the same play shouldn't you actually wait until a proper amount of time has passed for koshi to explode and fail at being quiet or succeed and then make your judgment from then on? #2) koshi had been fairly calm (for his standards) up until kinda recently where he posted some more which is the OPPOSITE of what happened in the last game. So I have a very hard time grasping this read, because I can only assume there is some meta behind it since koshi was nowhere near the most town in the thread from a play perspective. Like either you think koshi got better at being quiet and is town (in which case how the fuck did you make this read so fast?) or this read is manufactured. Bold #3: If the above was serious and based on meta (which to me this post kinda indicates it slightly was) then you backed out of a meta read about GB claiming scum super easy and at a time when I don't really think he deserved it in the slightest. In fact GB was pretty fucking scummy early and I think he still has a solid chance of flipping scum. To me this part is weaker than the koshi part, but still scum indicative. Basically it is simple: he is not reading and doesn't care. Multiple points in the thread and the pages surrounding this, kush, rayn, and hf had all mentioned that kush was a smurf who admitted he was a smurf because he couldn't log on his original name from work. It is mentioned quite a few times, but TT agrees with the read made initially that kush = scum cuz admitting smurfing = nonsense. But he keeps standing by it in the face of facts. Facts that he hadn't read because he didn't care about making an informed read. It is only when I quote it for him a bit later that he says "oh". Also when your read goes from he admitted he was a smurf -> oh, nothing after 1 correction of facts....and it is your most prominent read; clearly he isn't interested in finding scum. Like this, he is just shitting on someone's town read, but even in shitting on it he is being wishy-washy about shitting on it. However after dumping on it he provides nothing of his own. No indication of direction or wanting people to get on board with him lynching Ness. He simply shits to shit. I don't see how posts like this push town in any positive direction. Like where are you trying to find scum? Where are you gathering information? Where are you showing you're reading the thread? Where are you trying to get people to understand your point of view? You're doing none of that, so you're probably just mafia. Ouch is right. Currently I think TT is a better lynch than Vivax. Vivax is nibbling at the edges while actively reading which annoys me greatly and also engaging in riddles before gameplay which also frustrates me, but he has some LS in him....and that kinda makes me a pussy about it. ##unvote: ##vote: TickTock After, and aside those things that have been pointed out in his play, he hasn't done jack shit. There is not a single analysis on anything, people are just town for no reason, he doesn't care about what some people say, or he wants to lynch lurkers (and obviously the dude who is voting for him and has been cased with a bad case). There, now you can place your votes accordingly. So this case by rayn is basically "I dont understand what TT is saying or doing and is thus scum" The fact that this comes from Rayn should be fairly good evidence that I'm town. + Show Spoiler + Ok to semi respond: Sure I can townread Koshi there, I did. GB read is the same thing people always push me on when I talk about reads I'm not sure on. I posted 3 posts of Ness. One he flippantly writes off trying to read Exo with a gif trying to act like it's non of his buisness, saying he might be town or mafia. He also gives a "just cause" read on Sl, then immediately backs it up with "reasons" Those posts furthered the idea that he wasn't really trying to make reads on people or think about the game, and the post regarding Exo was just one example of him going "well maybe they are town or mafia, not my problem" Rayn said he couldn't understand my reads post he quoted first here, yet he had the exact same reaction to Kush revieling his smurf that I did, and later questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing. The shit about me not reading kus of Kush's smurf I already responded to and is just not true. I wouldn't sign up for a game I didn't intend to make some effort to read, and I would read things twice as carefully if I were scum. Just kus I don't see things or react to things the same as you do doesn't mean I'm not reading. Rit's case was basically the same besides some bull that me disagreeing with a read is me "shitting on it" But you guys are still welcome to lynch me tomorrow for the same stuff kus I'm unlikely to change how I'm playing this game. (this was prob a max lv effort post from me) | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On December 29 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: HOW THE FUCK IS THERE A SINGLE THING I MISUNDERSTAND IN TT'S POSTING`?!?!?! What the fuck are you talking about. You didn't misunderstand, but rather than try to see what I might have been talking about you just attack me for not making sense. It's cool, I expect that from you. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On December 29 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote: Yup classic GB fake mafia anger. Not only are your points illogical (I couldn't have made Vivax claim, I said I don't really want to lynch Ness straight away after etc etc) but they are ones that you yourself FOLLOW IN SENTIMENT. Let's look at this post as a classic example of a wtf he's mafia moment. GB is calling me out for: A) Being suspicious of Vivax which is weird as fuck because: B) Being suspicious of TickTock: C) Being suspicious of N E S S: D) Being suspicious of Kush: -absent because GB has been afk for ages- So, what do we see here ladies and gentleman? Glowingbear is accusing me of calling all his mafia reads mafia and then using it to call me mafia. /case get rekt GB This actually leads me to thinking GB is prob Town. HF sounds like he agrees. So I think GB is lock town. | ||
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Tictock
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On December 29 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote: This has actually invigorated my passion to find the rest of his team, thank you GB. Yea HF is prob mafia. A lot of his posts have been more on the discrediting angle of things. Here he is talking like he's just proven GB is mafia when I'm pretty sure he just showed why GB is likely town. He's also spent all game so for mostly focusing on inactive people and easy targets. | ||
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Holyflare
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If you think GB is town and he has the same scum reads then why am I mafia for having those scum reads? How does that post not constitute a case instead of "discrediting"? I think/still think it's good. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On December 29 2015 03:48 ExO_ wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 28 2015 16:04 Tictock wrote: I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. + Show Spoiler + Re-looking at TT's filter, these posts were back-back. He tells SL that he missed Vivax as mafia in the previous game, implying that Vivax could be a mafia sliding by this game, but then says to keep me around for not wanting to get rid of Vivax? It doesn't make sense. Am I misreading it or? Either way I think I might be more inclined to go back to TT Misreading. Post about you doesn't really have anything to do with Vivax. Was more how you were forming an opinion there rather than how you were reading Vivax or BF for that matter. | ||
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nooniansoong
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3. Onegu 5. sicklucker 7. damdred 8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) 9. Exo_ 10. Koshi 11. Ritoky 13. Mooseeeeeeeeydooseeeeeey 14. Boxerfred 17. Trfel 18. ObiWanShinobi 19. The Shining 20. Palmar 21. Tictock 22. n e s s 24. Alakaslam | ||
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