Newbie Student Mafia XVIII - Page 4

On December 31 2015 03:15 disformation wrote:


scott31337 (3): Irishbound, NocturneMage, mderg
GiygaS (2): Kmatt, scott31337, Fidei86
Onegu (1): nooniansoong
Kmatt (1): TheCow
nooniansoong (1): Shapelog
GlowingBear (1): Kmatt
Fidei86 (1): Onegu

Not Voting (2): GiygaS, GlowingBear

At this time, scott31337 is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Wednesday, Dec 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

On December 31 2015 03:49 Irishbound wrote:
Very very very very much want to lynch Scott, there's cookies for those who switch across, I really am confident he's scum here and those saying "he's too hard to tell", "he should be null" need to explain how they disagree with my reasoning. The fact that a lot of the people soft defending him fall inside my null/scum reads is good sign he's mafia too.



And I'm not voting Kmatt, I can somewhat understand your point on him but I've also seen newbtown players weaken/pursue a read less as town because they're told by others that they don't agree with the read and that's what's happened here. His reasoning behind suspecting you DOES make sense.

On December 31 2015 03:54 Irishbound wrote:


Fair warning but if we lynch Scott today and he flips mafia like I expect he will then I'll probably voting you for this, the sheer amount you've now defended him and made it less likely that he gets lynched is baffling given your read on him. It makes no sense as a stance whatsoever and really does ignore what the issues with him really are, sure he his lesser activity may fall under his meta, him town reading Noon for the reasoning he does doesn't though and him calling me town due to being a "newb" similarly doesn't make sense.

On December 31 2015 04:01 Irishbound wrote:


You've got it the wrong way round. The read that people were disagreeing with him about was on you, not Giyga. You can notice the progression behind his reads in the below posts, him not wanting to lynch someone that'll give us minimal information would also apply to Giyga (It's a bad way to vote, that's something I'll agree with you on but it's not an unfathomable one from a newer player as town).

On December 31 2015 04:05 Irishbound wrote:


Then if you're town stop being nonsensical, you've got absolutely no reason to town read Scott whatsoever, you acknowledge as much, you've got town reads on lots of other players thereby by process of elimination alone he's a decent chance of being mafia for you so you taking the stance "I've promised myself not to lynch him" doesn't add up. Again you're disregarding his actions as "null" for a meta reason that doesn't flow, what about his meta makes his really weak and incorrect reasoning for town reading Noon and myself null? What about his meta means that where he does focus doesn't look like scumhunting but rather quoting random sections?

On December 31 2015 04:09 Onegu wrote:


Looks like shape scumslipped also.

FTR I dont read shapes posts they give me headaches. So I just skip them.

GB really might be scum here also.

On December 31 2015 04:11 Irishbound wrote:

He believes that we shouldn't be lynching players with little content as it doesn't provide us with much information to work with regardless of their flip, do I agree that's a good way to play? No, absolutely not. Do I think that's impossible heck even unlikely to come from newer town? No.

If he believes that low content lynches are bad then him ruling both Scott and Giyga makes sense which only leaves you as the scum read he's had throughout the game that's been active so I really don't see this big scum tell you're making out his vote on you to be.

On December 31 2015 04:19 Irishbound wrote:
Correct you're not a player with as little content as Gigya or Scott. The fact that you're trying to argue otherwise is kind of a joke considering your filter is 4 pages long and theirs is 4 posts long p much.

Worst part is as frustrating and idiotic as your interaction with me here it's actually making me lean town on you.

Oh and before I go for lols I'll take an early punt at the scum team, Scott-Noon-Fidei.

On December 31 2015 04:25 Irishbound wrote:


Yes, I've got a town read on Onegus reaction towards Fideis post, it's not a particularly strong one but not even remotely interested in lynching there. I do have a very strong town read on Mderg, his reads and thoughts mirror mine when catching up quite often, I can understand his reasoning behind almost all of his reads, I'd almost bet the entire game on him being town.

Want to make an agreement Glowing? We lynch Scott today, if he's mafia like I expect you let me tell you where to put your vote tomorrow, if he flips town you can tell me where to place mine.

On December 31 2015 04:33 Irishbound wrote:

No thanks, I've actually got a town read on Kmatt whereas you don't have a town read on Scott, there's also the fact that Scotts the leading wagon at the moment.

And with that I'm out, I'll try and check this on my phone on my way to work if I get a chance.

Vote Scott 4 Cookies.

On December 31 2015 05:17 mderg wrote:

So your main point on Kmatt is the lack of commitment to his read on you? I fail to see how that's enough to justify a lynch D1.

On December 31 2015 06:23 NocturneMage wrote:


Was there something new you had an issue with or was this the same stuff from last night? If it was the same stuff from last night, is it completely unfathomable from newbie town to do what he did? This is one key thing to me, that makes Cow more town than you - he's trying to frame the situation from one that is believeable from his perspective.

That's not my point anymore

My point is that Giygas is his main scumread and was the second wagon to scott. He started saying that I was fishy but then said it didn't influence my alignment. He proceeded to drop his scumread on me.

Then he suddenly decides I'm a "dangerous player" (? what does this even mean) and that scott's flip won't reveal much information. Instead of convincing people to vote his main scumread (who was the opposite wagon at that time), he decided to vote me. Which doesn't make sense because:

1) He said my "fishiness" couldn't reveal anything from my alignment, so his suspicions on me were weaker than the suspicions on Giygas
2) He DROPPED his scumread on me
3) If the problem is that scott's wagon won't reveal any information, he should rather lynch his main scumread because it at least is the most probable wagon to flip instead of mine.

On December 31 2015 06:47 scott31337 wrote:
Im voting with Onegu instead