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On December 31 2015 06:50 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott Onegu's read is based upon a phrase I have to say every time I play with him. Every time, I have to make the same speech about how he is useless and doesn't play at all until late game, and that makes him an easy mislynch if he's town, and if he's mafia puts town into an almost impossible position. That's his entire read. Sheeping it makes me super suspicious of you.
my read is not based upon a phrase.
WHy do people keep talking about onegu's scumslip case when I have an actual case!
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Scott you were TRing GB who has been hard pushing Kmatt. You were TRing Onegu because meta (????). You were null on Noon and the other guy on Kmatt (TL is crashing on me). This just makes no sense.
ugh
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On December 31 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
Giygas ain't happening bud, so.
ANY could happen. Not Fidei with Onegu voting him
I'm sorry, I did my best to not have you lynched but there are things I cannot comply :/
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On December 31 2015 03:25 nooniansoong wrote:lemme summarize reasoning for voting fidei real quick. Several posts that are long and have nothign to do with scumhunting. Talking about past games, talking about the virtues of policy lynches, etc. In his big reads post, his scumreads are summaries of me and gigas' play put into a scummy light. He latches on to some of my trolly posts and doesn't stop to think "why would scum make such overtly scummy posts"? Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 23:27 Fidei86 wrote:Scum
Gigya - He has a filter almost totally devoid of reads. His one TR is Irish (#214) but at the same time in his post at #192 he actually says that as Irish is experienced, the post could have been faked. ???. He also suspects GB for his "matter of fact town read", even though he agrees with it? The only thing keeping this from moving into policy is that he has a couple of posts where he talks about non-game stuff (#225, #228). If you have time to do that, you have time to play as well. This is how newbie mafia play, imo.
Noon/Kush - This whole filter makes me want to facepalm. He TRs Scott for saying he could "possibly jump" on someone else's read. WTF? I just don't understand this read at all - mafia are the ones who are going to hedge and give weak reads, not town. He then goes into a day-long "woe is me, D1 is so hard" stupor, which is (a) totally destructive to town, and (b) effective at hiding his thoughts on the game. Having said that, he then seems to basically mindlessly sheep GB onto his read onto Kmatt. I also don't follow his point about NM and KMatt whiteknighting, since a bunch of other people also came into the thread to say that timestamp analysis wasn't helpful. He then also prods a bunch of people into giving reads, despite the fact that he himself has given almost no content.
##Vote -- Gigya
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On December 31 2015 06:54 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2015 06:50 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott Onegu's read is based upon a phrase I have to say every time I play with him. Every time, I have to make the same speech about how he is useless and doesn't play at all until late game, and that makes him an easy mislynch if he's town, and if he's mafia puts town into an almost impossible position. That's his entire read. Sheeping it makes me super suspicious of you. my read is not based upon a phrase. WHy do people keep talking about onegu's scumslip case when I have an actual case!
You actually call that a case?
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Vote Count - Day 1
scott31337 (5): Irishbound, NocturneMage, mderg, GiygaS, GlowingBear
Fidei86 (3): Onegu, nooniansoong, scott31337
nooniansoong (1): Shapelog
GlowingBear (1): Kmatt
GiygaS (1): Kmatt, scott31337, Fidei86
Kmatt (1): TheCow, GlowingBear, scott31337
Onegu (0): nooniansoong
At this time, scott31337 is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Wednesday, Dec 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
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On December 31 2015 06:51 scott31337 wrote:People om Fidei look better than on Kmatt after looking it over. Is that better? 
Can you at least explained what changed? You had a townlean on him?
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On December 31 2015 06:56 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2015 06:54 nooniansoong wrote:On December 31 2015 06:50 Fidei86 wrote:
@Scott Onegu's read is based upon a phrase I have to say every time I play with him. Every time, I have to make the same speech about how he is useless and doesn't play at all until late game, and that makes him an easy mislynch if he's town, and if he's mafia puts town into an almost impossible position. That's his entire read. Sheeping it makes me super suspicious of you. my read is not based upon a phrase. WHy do people keep talking about onegu's scumslip case when I have an actual case! You actually call that a case?
it's concise!
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On December 31 2015 03:25 nooniansoong wrote:lemme summarize reasoning for voting fidei real quick. Several posts that are long and have nothign to do with scumhunting. Talking about past games, talking about the virtues of policy lynches, etc. In his big reads post, his scumreads are summaries of me and gigas' play put into a scummy light. He latches on to some of my trolly posts and doesn't stop to think "why would scum make such overtly scummy posts"? Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 23:27 Fidei86 wrote:Scum
Gigya - He has a filter almost totally devoid of reads. His one TR is Irish (#214) but at the same time in his post at #192 he actually says that as Irish is experienced, the post could have been faked. ???. He also suspects GB for his "matter of fact town read", even though he agrees with it? The only thing keeping this from moving into policy is that he has a couple of posts where he talks about non-game stuff (#225, #228). If you have time to do that, you have time to play as well. This is how newbie mafia play, imo.
Noon/Kush - This whole filter makes me want to facepalm. He TRs Scott for saying he could "possibly jump" on someone else's read. WTF? I just don't understand this read at all - mafia are the ones who are going to hedge and give weak reads, not town. He then goes into a day-long "woe is me, D1 is so hard" stupor, which is (a) totally destructive to town, and (b) effective at hiding his thoughts on the game. Having said that, he then seems to basically mindlessly sheep GB onto his read onto Kmatt. I also don't follow his point about NM and KMatt whiteknighting, since a bunch of other people also came into the thread to say that timestamp analysis wasn't helpful. He then also prods a bunch of people into giving reads, despite the fact that he himself has given almost no content.
##Vote -- Gigya
None of the posts I pointed out were trolling. I can see lots of scum motivation for saying how hard the day is and how bad you are at it. That's a classic way of avoiding actually making any f***ing reads. That part of the case is garbage. As to talking about previous games and policy lynches ... I literally always do that. And it's actually been super relevant here (how can you scum read me for doing it, but not Scott when Scott's case on Onegu is literally 100% meta).
I need to consolidate onto Kmatt or Scott. Leaning Scott, just because his thread re-entry is so opportunistic.
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Final Vote Count
scott31337 (6): Irishbound, NocturneMage, mderg, GiygaS, GlowingBear, Fidei86
Fidei86 (3): Onegu, nooniansoong, scott31337
nooniansoong (1): Shapelog
GlowingBear (1): Kmatt
Kmatt (1): TheCow, GlowingBear, scott31337
GiygaS (0): Kmatt, scott31337, Fidei86
Onegu (0): nooniansoong
scott31337 the Vanilla Townie has been lynched.
Since tomorrow is New Year's Eve, we will be extending this night cycle to be 48 hours long and the activity requirements will be relaxed. Please submit your night actions to myself, disformation, and LoneMeow to ensure they are counted. Enjoy the New Year!
Night 1 ends in on Friday, Jan 01 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
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yea i guess my case isn't that good.
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NM what's your read on Irish?
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I need to reassess everyone on the scott wagon it looks like. Regarding Irish, honestly, nothing is jumping out right now, and Irish's continued reasoning for scumming Scott, honestly I can't argue that because Irish did have a reason to town Onegu even though I'm not sure I fully agreed with it, I don't see that it could make him scum.
The early voting makes him more townie and I didn't get a chance to fully look through Noon today which was his other willing vote. I know someone pinged me out earlier for putting Noon in the lynch list but that was because he was going after KMatt for white knighting or something and then didn't follow up at the time I looked at him.
I am curious to see where people are calling Irish tryhard scum. He really believed in the case on Scott.
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On December 31 2015 07:06 NocturneMage wrote:
I need to reassess everyone on the scott wagon it looks like. Regarding Irish, honestly, nothing is jumping out right now, and Irish's continued reasoning for scumming Scott, honestly I can't argue that because Irish did have a reason to town Onegu even though I'm not sure I fully agreed with it, I don't see that it could make him scum.
The early voting makes him more townie and I didn't get a chance to fully look through Noon today which was his other willing vote. I know someone pinged me out earlier for putting Noon in the lynch list but that was because he was going after KMatt for white knighting or something and then didn't follow up at the time I looked at him.
I am curious to see where people are calling Irish tryhard scum. He really believed in the case on Scott.
So you don't think he is scummy?
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Irish kept the same read on Noon, but I know Noon's posted today, so I have to see the basis for why that read stayed the same. That's about the only thing I can think of.
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On December 31 2015 07:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2015 07:06 NocturneMage wrote:
I need to reassess everyone on the scott wagon it looks like. Regarding Irish, honestly, nothing is jumping out right now, and Irish's continued reasoning for scumming Scott, honestly I can't argue that because Irish did have a reason to town Onegu even though I'm not sure I fully agreed with it, I don't see that it could make him scum.
The early voting makes him more townie and I didn't get a chance to fully look through Noon today which was his other willing vote. I know someone pinged me out earlier for putting Noon in the lynch list but that was because he was going after KMatt for white knighting or something and then didn't follow up at the time I looked at him.
I am curious to see where people are calling Irish tryhard scum. He really believed in the case on Scott. So you don't think he is scummy?
The aspects of his play that are sticking out to me, no. The only thing is the read on Noon since he mentioned Scott or Noon.
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