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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually the best play for both me and Rels in case we are mafia is to no-kill. But Rels or you not realizing this doesn't mean anything about anyone's alignment so we should just drop this discussion. wtf | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:15 Rels wrote: marv and DP are scum. marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. I am the lynch. marv deflects and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on me. If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum) If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. So it's a gambit. If DP is lynched for whatever reason marv lose the game right there. But the other cases are OK. Why would we not just both lynch you as scum and go straight to lylo? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:19 Rels wrote: How do you know scum can no-kill ? LOL GTFO Rels. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:20 DarthPunk wrote: Why would we not just both lynch you as scum and go straight to lylo? I'm not considering the motherfucking hypothetical scenarios. I'm considering what could possibly happen based on the actions of the players, and what outcome it would have. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:15 Rels wrote: marv and DP are scum. marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. I am the lynch. marv deflects and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on me. If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum) If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. So it's a gambit. If DP is lynched for whatever reason marv lose the game right there. But the other cases are OK. Your scenario here hinges around "if DP is lynched for whatever reason" which already assumes that DP was suspicious for people on D1, otherwise you should nowhere assume "if DP is lynched" is even likely. Again we come to this, if you assume "if DP is lynched" is true, you assume DP was at least suspicious for people on D1 ---> in that case, if we mirror this to what I HAVE SAID, it makes sense for marv to NOT bus you, and try to lynch DP, no? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your scenario here hinges around "if DP is lynched for whatever reason" which already assumes that DP was suspicious for people on D1, otherwise you should nowhere assume "if DP is lynched" is even likely. Again we come to this, if you assume "if DP is lynched" is true, you assume DP was at least suspicious for people on D1 ---> in that case, if we mirror this to what I HAVE SAID, it makes sense for marv to NOT bus you, and try to lynch DP, no? We'll continue that when you will have answered | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:21 Rels wrote: I'm not considering the motherfucking hypothetical scenarios. I'm considering what could possibly happen based on the actions of the players, and what outcome it would have. Well it doesn't make sense for a marv-DP team to not just lynch you, therefore what you posted makes no sense. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your scenario here hinges around "if DP is lynched for whatever reason" which already assumes that DP was suspicious for people on D1, otherwise you should nowhere assume "if DP is lynched" is even likely. Again we come to this, if you assume "if DP is lynched" is true, you assume DP was at least suspicious for people on D1 ---> in that case, if we mirror this to what I HAVE SAID, it makes sense for marv to NOT bus you, and try to lynch DP, no? AND YOU ARE SUPER STUPID "DP LYNCHED" IS THE ONLY SCENARIO THAT IS BAD FOR A MARV + DP TEAM IF YOU SAY "BUT THE DP IS LYNCHED SCENARIO" IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY, THEN THE OTHER TWO SCENARIOS ARE BOTH LIKELY, AND THESE TWO SCENARIOS ARE GOOD FOR A MARV + DP TEAM | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:23 Rels wrote: AND YOU ARE SUPER STUPID "DP LYNCHED" IS THE ONLY SCENARIO THAT IS BAD FOR A MARV + DP TEAM IF YOU SAY "BUT THE DP IS LYNCHED SCENARIO" IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY, THEN THE OTHER TWO SCENARIOS ARE BOTH LIKELY, AND THESE TWO SCENARIOS ARE GOOD FOR A MARV + DP TEAM YES WHICH IT IS ALMOST FUCKING GUARANTEED YOU ARE FUCKING MAFIA AND DP IS NOT!!! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
1) there is a starting point where people stand on other people when marv starts posting 2) what marv posts and why 3) what is the most likely outcome based on what marv posted, based on what did he do, and didn't do Now, in your scenarios, where you give an explanation to (2) and come to a conclusion (3), it either contradicts (1), or the (3) is, based on your interpretation of (1) and (2) fucking bullshit compared to "marv would lynch Rels unless Rels is mafia" in comparison to what happened. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
Rels (2): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk DarthPunk (1): Rels Currently, Rels is set to be lynched. Deadline is Saturday, Dec 19 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:19 Rels wrote: How do you know scum can no-kill ? I am not going to answer your dumb shit... | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
What happened at EOD1 marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. Rels is the lynch. marv deflects off Rels and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on Rels. Rels deflects off marv and pushes on Arsoul. Possible lynches: marv, DP, Rels. 1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ? If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD If DP is lynched => LYLO; marv and I, who were the two potential lynches, look super bad. A LITTLE BAD and UNLIKELY ANYWAY If marv is lynched => It looks like both scum didn't want to vote for each other. I look bad. BAD 2: marv + DP is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ? If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. GOOD If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum). BAD but UNLIKELY If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. SUPER GOOD | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to answer your dumb shit... You're lucky I have to assume you're town 'cause I would have tunneled the shit out of you if it was not LYLO. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote: OK I will resume one last time because you are all annoying me. What happened at EOD1 marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. Rels is the lynch. marv deflects off Rels and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on Rels. Rels deflects off marv and pushes on Arsoul. Possible lynches: marv, DP, Rels. 1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ? If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD If DP is lynched => LYLO; marv and I, who were the two potential lynches, look super bad. A LITTLE BAD and UNLIKELY ANYWAY If marv is lynched => It looks like both scum didn't want to vote for each other. I look bad. BAD You were in this bad situation and as you just said, trying to lynch me is the best option out of those you are providing. Pretty funny that marv tried to lynch me then huh? On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote: 2: marv + DP is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ? If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. GOOD If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum). BAD but UNLIKELY If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. SUPER GOOD So why would marv-dp team go for option two and not the SUPER GOOD option 3? Makes no fucking sense still. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:39 Rels wrote: Shut up fucking scum. It does not prove you're scum; anyone could be scum with marv but me with this analysis. It proves that I am town. I am town because marv was getting lynched and he hates giving information; but somehow we chose a way to play that ONLY LEAD TO BAD SCENARIOS. YOU COULD ONLY CHOOSE BAD SCENARIOS BECAUSE YOU HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT YOURSELF INTO A BAD SCENARIO BY PLAYING LIKE SHIT ON DAY ONE. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 18 2015 23:42 DarthPunk wrote: YOU COULD ONLY CHOOSE BAD SCENARIOS BECAUSE YOU HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT YOURSELF INTO A BAD SCENARIO BY PLAYING LIKE SHIT ON DAY ONE. MY POINT IS SCUMS DO NOT PLAY TO PUT THEMSELVES IN BAD SCENARIOS IN THE FIRST PLACE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ONE OF YOU DOES NOT BUS THE OTHER IN THE SITUATION WE WERE IN AT EOD | ||
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