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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 13 2015 06:48 GMT
#34
/in

expect my typical uselessness to be exacerbated.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 13 2015 06:50 GMT
#35
dear host, plz hack the setup and give me vt so me being useless costs my team the least possible. thanks in advance bbgurlqtpi
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 04:20 GMT
#152
am vt
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 05:00 GMT
#154
there are no girls in this game right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 05:05 GMT
#156
shape is town

tt is town

everything else is unremarkable
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 08:15 GMT
#166
gonna retract my tr on tt for retracting his tr on shape
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 08:51 GMT
#169
after taking a shower and considering it. i might want to lynch tt over those posts.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 09:14 GMT
#171
reasons: shape is town cuz he went derpies. mafia doesn't go derpies over a missed joke and mafia doesn't go derpies while not reading the setup/roles. shape went derpies over those things thus town.

i thought tt made same read as me, thus he is town. he then retracted his read so clearly he was not inside my brain lobe and is no longer town.

his retracted read gives a null read that is even-handed. it is horse shit. it treats shape's alignment less than 12 hours into the game as some dynamic puzzle or something. it just feels like forced fabricated gray goo; plus there's no point to it other than maybe he realized he is tring someone he can ml. you said you liked 1 post, do you really need that much explanation to downgrade to null? overexplainers anonymous released demographics recently and turns out 70% of members are mafia.

his questions don't feel like they are headed to conclusions

his response to kush is awkward; it feels like he wants to make a joke but wants to be srs. too considered of a response.

he pings lurkers, statistics have something to say about this and the propensity of it leading to mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 09:17 GMT
#172
also since i am in a typing things mood: damdred and shape are never mafia together. do not forget this ever.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 22:52 GMT
#263
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


this is a very bad post. clearly reading the thread, clearly hyper aware of the post limit, has a motive for not posting frequently; yet in his hello senpai post he elects to give no content of his own and simply defers all content to damdred. i noticed you, even if no one else did.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 14 2015 22:56 GMT
#266
On December 15 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 07:52 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


this is a very bad post. clearly reading the thread, clearly hyper aware of the post limit, has a motive for not posting frequently; yet in his hello senpai post he elects to give no content of his own and simply defers all content to damdred. i noticed you, even if no one else did.

I gave a read in that post plus asking Damdred about you?


you gave a 0 content town read on the guy spamming the thread who is probably never getting lynched on day 1 and whom the person who's opinion you're deferring to said he is never lynching day 1. it is the easiest read to just make offhand.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 01:41 GMT
#307
On December 15 2015 10:04 Sukrit wrote:
Also

##Unvote

##Vote: Shape


no
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 01:42 GMT
#308
On December 15 2015 10:31 kushm4sta wrote:
Why are we not lynching GB? im confused.


he has been underwhelming, i wouldn't mind piling votes on him to make him flip out. but then we lynch tt at the end.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 02:36 GMT
#335
shape i still think you're town cuz derpies and probably will never waver on that read, but when you post stupid shit like that and half a page of say nothing null reads it just makes you lynch bait that is progressively harder to defend over time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 04:56 GMT
#342
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment
tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 05:38 GMT
#348
he went derpies over a missed joke backed up by 0 setup knowledge against a strong player in damdred. he is town. there are levels to this game. my read may be on another level if you don't get it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 05:50 GMT
#350
bad play makes someone bad, not mafia; plus i have gotten pretty good at identifying lynch bait as town, pretty much all i am good at as town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 06:06 GMT
#353
On December 15 2015 14:53 GlowingBear wrote:
RITOKYYYYYYYY I'M NOT MAFIA


i love it when you ramble to me. whisper your sweet nothings in my ear so i can feel like i have been enveloped in a cloud of tenderness and love. then i will brutally lynch tt.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 06:17 GMT
#356
On December 15 2015 15:12 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 14:38 ritoky wrote:
he went derpies over a missed joke backed up by 0 setup knowledge against a strong player in damdred. he is town. there are levels to this game. my read may be on another level if you don't get it.


Help me get to your level. I don't think he went "against" Damdred. He says it's a bit far fetched and that he took a note of it being possible and moved on. I agree with Sukrit that both sides make setup mistakes. He then talked primarily about Koshi and Sukrit. Maybe I'm thinking that going against someone is more like how Sukrit is on Koshi or you are on TT?

Even counting this as towny points, you can't say the rest of his posts are any good. Is this really the only thing you are looking at in evaluating Shapelog?


as of now it is literally the only thing i am evaluating him on because it is the only thing that matters. 1 moment can make someone irrevocably town or irreversibly mafia. it is good to recognize those moments and never forget them because the rest does not matter. they eye of the chupazi sees moments of truth, it wades through the spam and locates certainty in an uncertain world.

+ Show Spoiler +
if he goes and tries to put 8 lynches on town or gets tracked to a kill or some shit, then maybe i will reconsider but probably not cuz i like being right


+ Show Spoiler +
this message was hard to make on an ipad, fuck vacations; overrated
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 09:31 GMT
#375
when it is 1:30 am, ur baby is crying in the crib, you're staying at your in-laws for holidays, and your mother-in-law looks over at you with a smirk and says "wow, i don't miss this at all" knowing full well you have years of this ahead of you.

my salt level is approx 30000000000007

gigays said "LS is on top of things". i laughed. tubsuck voted rels. i shook my head.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 09:42 GMT
#378
because him saying shit like that to pocket LS for the entire game as mafia isn't outside of his wheel house. and from my experience only women on TL have the magical 100% LS read that you always trust. so unless damdred suddenly became a lesbian...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 09:54 GMT
#383
real men hold shift, if your pinky doesn't hurt from pressing it so hard at the end then you're not raging right.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 10:24 GMT
#393
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

if you want me to write the why tt is potentially mafia book it would basically be: he tr shape for good reason (i thought) at proper time and when it was popular, then backed out of it for a bad/no reason when it was popular, was awkward, then has basically snap conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him.

if you want me to write the why gb is potentially mafia book it would basically be: he was supposed to yell at me or try to tickle my emotions when i was voting on him and he didn't. also i don't know who he wants to lynch or sheep. he lacks coherent direction or feeling. cold gb is not having fun gb. not having fun gb usually results from having shitty mafia teammates.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 10:28 GMT
#394
i blame my daughter for me reaching 2 pages of filter and typing somewhat useful piles of garbage.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 10:35 GMT
#396
On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500.

+ Show Spoiler +
there's a catch


that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 10:45 GMT
#398
On December 15 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:35 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500.

+ Show Spoiler +
there's a catch


that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender.

I don't understand one "he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently" can refer to only one read ?


gb, me, gigays, response to koochi. plz click filter b4 needling about pointless things.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:02 GMT
#515
On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:
Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment

tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here?

Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this?

Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me.

Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote?


kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself.

LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration.

rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:04 GMT
#517
no clue, i generally don't read a thing damdred types until night 1 because my soul read doesn't really work until then.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:09 GMT
#520
On December 16 2015 06:05 Rels wrote:
Can you read page 25 and read what I've posted on him ? 'cause I don't feel he's town here.


it might be right, it might not. it has nothing to do with how i read him and i know how i read him works for me above a 90% clip, so gonna stick to it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:21 GMT
#525
why rit is mafia and gig is mafia case before reading and analyzing thread?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:50 GMT
#555
On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:
Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment.

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment

tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here?

Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this?

Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me.

Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote?


kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself.

LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration.

rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game.


Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi.

This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time?




the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:52 GMT
#560
don't we have an hour and 8 minutes?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 21:56 GMT
#576
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#583
On December 16 2015 06:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.


You're talking about who?


tt
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:09 GMT
#592
On December 16 2015 07:03 Damdred wrote:
Rit I haven't read any of your posts will you at least five me some opinion on what I saw in rels and tell me what you think?


On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


On December 15 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:35 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500.

+ Show Spoiler +
there's a catch


that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender.

I don't understand one "he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently" can refer to only one read ?


On December 15 2015 19:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:45 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:35 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500.

+ Show Spoiler +
there's a catch


that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender.

I don't understand one "he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently" can refer to only one read ?


gb, me, gigays, response to koochi. plz click filter b4 needling about pointless things.

OK that makes more sense.


he was needling me over nothing so i think you're a bit wrong there. i think your deferring to someone else's read as a path of less blame/resistance part is valid. but generally i think with rels when he is mafia he has a hard time separating the additive information he has, so when he is mafia he ends up speaking with more certainty due to extra info and sticking to his views harder/not considering alternatives. pretty hard to analyze that as a metric on d1, but his current play isn't outside of him being mafia.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:14 GMT
#595
On December 16 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:50 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:
Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment.

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment

tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here?

Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this?

Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me.

Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote?


kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself.

LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration.

rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game.


Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi.

This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time?




the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time.


Ah ok, so it's just a mindmeld thing?

Is that a reliable metric for you?

People are usually never on the same page as me so I rarely get moments like that.

What did you think of what I was pointing out about Gig since I know you saw my post about him?


if it happens more than once it usually means the person is above 80% chance to be town, reliable enough for me to not vote them d1.

imo gig is completely underwhelming and i remember nothing about him off the top of my head other than he said he was gonna do shit and didn't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:25 GMT
#606
On December 16 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.


If the bolded is referring to you I think you are overstating your townyness.

I think I'm taking my OMGUS into account properly here... I hope.

Besides my read on you has more to do with the way you are reading Shape than me... ehh maybe 60/40.

Why don't we talk about someone other than me for a second though? Like imagine for a moment that I wasn't around and was probably going to be modkilled. Who would you be your backup?


i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt.

basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game.

outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets.

i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:28 GMT
#610
On December 16 2015 07:24 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:50 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:
Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment.

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment

tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here?

Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this?

Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me.

Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote?


kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself.

LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration.

rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game.


Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi.

This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time?




the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time.


Ah ok, so it's just a mindmeld thing?

Is that a reliable metric for you?

People are usually never on the same page as me so I rarely get moments like that.

What did you think of what I was pointing out about Gig since I know you saw my post about him?


if it happens more than once it usually means the person is above 80% chance to be town, reliable enough for me to not vote them d1.

imo gig is completely underwhelming and i remember nothing about him off the top of my head other than he said he was gonna do shit and didn't.


Thats not really what I was asking, what about these points?

Show nested quote +

For those who hate to read, Reasons to scumread Gig.

- Weird progression on me. Scum read on me develops after Rit starts pushing me, drops the read after we talk about something else, then says everyone is null and shortly after is back on me for the same thing Rit was talking about in the first place.

-Multiple times says he's got only Null and Town reads. Mafia tend to have a hard time finding reasons to scumread other players whereas town tends to jump on things that bug them.

-Scumreads all come from other people. He mentions a "lean" on Koshi for a meta he has no experience with (obviously talking about the meta read on Koshi early on), his readon me comes from Rit, the scumread on Rels was from Koshi, and I think (I haven't checked this one) the Shape read comes from Onegu/Sukrit


vote -> unvote no reason no interaction could be mafia indicative, but doesn't give me a boner.

rest of the stuff is just him being unoriginal and unmemorable which i covered, not really alignment indicative; tons of people are just sheeple.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:29 GMT
#612
On December 16 2015 07:28 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 07:25 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.


If the bolded is referring to you I think you are overstating your townyness.

I think I'm taking my OMGUS into account properly here... I hope.

Besides my read on you has more to do with the way you are reading Shape than me... ehh maybe 60/40.

Why don't we talk about someone other than me for a second though? Like imagine for a moment that I wasn't around and was probably going to be modkilled. Who would you be your backup?


i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt.

basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game.

outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets.

i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear.


I thought your GB vote was purely for pressure, ok noted.


it was pressure pending he deliver the goods. he never delivered the goods.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:33 GMT
#616
On December 16 2015 07:29 Shapelog wrote:
Well something came up so i won't be here till 8 ish.
##Vote:Kush
Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me.


kush is a bad vote imo
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#619
the fact that the main proponent of kush's lynch (koochi) isn't even voting on kush and he has accumulated more votes than tt or gb did at any point disturbs me greatly. it probably means more likely mafia between gb and tt.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:36 GMT
#622
oh i miscounted, 3 is not 4. derp.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 23:10 GMT
#682
wtf was that damdred? a shennanie with 3 minutes left that you very quickly see and probably knew ahead of time wasn't happening and it hammers a town?

wat?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 23:11 GMT
#683
tt did not hammer gb, damdred did. tt's vote is irrelevant due to kush reaching votes first. without damdred's unvote it is irrelevant.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#685
koshi was never switching and told you so.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 23:19 GMT
#691
because what you did makes no sense. and there was enough time for you to see it was not happening and move your vote somewhere and you left it on your not happening wagon.

you're not here, you ask people who to look at/vote for, then when there's an a vs b wagon day 1 you try to push the biggest LHF in the game, no one follows, your unvote allows someone to place a relevant vote, you stay on your useless vote even though you had enough time to move.

that sequence makes 0 sense to me
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 23:20 GMT
#692
if you wanna claim mason with LS then just do it already damdred.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 23:26 GMT
#696
On December 16 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
So let me get this straight there's not enough time for anyone to follow me but I have plenty of time to move my vote.


On December 16 2015 08:10 ritoky wrote:
wtf was that damdred? a shennanie with 3 minutes left that you very quickly see and probably knew ahead of time wasn't happening and it hammers a town?

wat?


i said there was enough time right away.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2015 21:29 GMT
#752
On December 17 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote:
Let's be honest here I am neither invested currently in the game and I'm not as interested in becoming so after the couple of days I've had.

However I will put some form of concerted effort forward to uphold my reputation. And to the person who say damdred is always scum if he's alive after d4 I hate to tell you this I don't have a very good record of being shot for some reason.

Also calling my try to shenanigan away from the current lymch brain dead is incorrect. I have been in plenty of moves that take less time than 4 minutes sometimes 50 seconds is all you need especially with a full game.

However rels what question am I missing or have missed?

Vivax is obvious scum at this point or at least should be ashwd of himaelf if town.


Oh really?

On December 16 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote:
Hrm

I'll have to look st context tommorow then see what happened.

I can't lead a lynch this far behind in an hour. So I see people want me, GB or kush correct


you say you are behind and should not be leading a lynch. you are content voting on kush. you express no doubt toward the kush lynch. you then try to lead a lynch with minimal time left in which 1 of the people you are "relying on" to switch has told you he won't. the switch you try to make is on the largest afk/LHF in the game. kush is probably the 2nd largest afk in the game, so moving the vote for activity reasons makes no sense; you express no reasonable doubt toward kush flipping town. i see no reasonable town motivation or explanation for doing what you did. and then you stuck with it even after people told you no and didn't move.

and before you start with "you're whining even though you got your lynch and he was town". yup i pretty much lynched gb, and he did nothing to deserve a tr. that doesn't take away from the fact that what you did makes absolutely no sense as town.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2015 21:31 GMT
#753
people made big posts about me. i didn't read them. i claimed vt that's all you need to know my alignment.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2015 21:36 GMT
#754
anywayz gonna go take my kid to see her first snow, probably not back before deadline, won't be surprised if i get shot.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 16 2015 23:05 GMT
#784
that's twice out of 5 games where i have rolled miller instead of vt. how unlucky am i. gg
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:02 GMT
#1700
??? that's a very odd concede, i get holidays impacting time, but lynch tt -> kill ls -> sleep -> kill damdred -> lynch onegu -> win isn't an unreasonable line to victory....although i doubt damdred sleeps @ 4 and entrusts town's hopes to shape.

still no idea what you were doing eod1 damd.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:04 GMT
#1701
yeah we had a similar situation in the last game as mafia that you guys had, and me and palmar both advocated shooting palmar for credit, which led to our team winning.

also read the obs qt cuz idk how anyone alive didn't know LS was blue since like...forever ago.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:06 GMT
#1705
in the last game with presents*
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:08 GMT
#1707
shape my big piece of advice to you is that you really need to focus your thoughts and lower the unprovoked paranoia or you will be a D1/early game ML candidate a lot. you can't be THAT all over the place as town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:09 GMT
#1709
not always will you have the god lynch bait reader ritoky (and a blue claim) to stave off the wolves
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:11 GMT
#1711
why me over koshi btw? cuz i was just more right at the time?
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:12 GMT
#1714
also sickest tt read early game; no town ever makes that read progression lol.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:16 GMT
#1719
for tt from obs qt:

not unreasonable thing to do, but he has been telegraphing this claim for a while. the way he only talked/buddied w/ damdred day 1 made it obv it was his n1 check. the way he opened day 2 saying "no matter what work with me today damdred"; plus he has been a peripheral player who hasn't tried to really engage the main points of the thread which is what he does as VT. so i doubt this is fake. shape's is probably more likely fake than LS. the real question is if he will consider godfather potential on damdred post-flip....or at least that's the question for me so i can be right :D

but if you didn't notice the super early stuff that i did, this is when you shoulda known for sure:

On December 20 2015 09:36 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW Damdred can you promise me something?


On December 20 2015 09:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 09:37 Damdred wrote:
Maybe?

Can you work with me this entire day phase?


he is basically hard claiming a parity check in which he knows damdred is town or thinks damdred is the town of the differents right here. he snap needs to die.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:45 GMT
#1727
when you don't use kp on vivax, you had to claim something there tt. either blue or used a candy or something. with a flipped wanderer, pushing 2 wanderers is never happening. options are basically claim vigi shot and try to talk your way out of shooting a non-vivax person (which will be incredibly difficult) or claim candy that had no noticeable effect (probably not going anywhere due to lack of candy claims ppl will just think you're lying and shot kush) or claim something like RB. it's tough cuz you're not in control. shape is claiming on you so you're not spinning the message.

basically i think your choice is claim RB or doctor (doctor obv wouldn't have worked) after you get claimed on OR shoot kush and immediately post flip do a "you're all gonna yell at me for not shooting vivax, i know i know, but x,y, and z yada yada please don't kill me" because in that case you're in control of the message versus shape being in control. mind you hindsight is amazing.

personally i shoot vivax and claim that shit, but it is tough. i had the same problem last game where my RB is the liability and it is tough to just cut your RB versus a goon or a GF.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 23 2015 05:48 GMT
#1728
On December 23 2015 14:37 Damdred wrote:
My eod1 came about after 3 days of 18 hour shifts and not functioning well the next night/day/night was about as bad. Just oane more 18 to go though.

Besides that I played meh overall I think I made several good decisions and correct reads but went about it the wrong way probably.

But I was never getting lynched tbh, and tubes play on vivax was pretty transparent to an extent.


i tried to read you this game based on none of my meta tells and just gameplay, probably not the best game to do so

maybe i should just stick to the meta stuff since it werx.
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