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Eh might not be the best for my first forum mafia game but waiting for Student mafia is too long >_>
edit: you can thank my GF for me being up at 1:10 am to sign up
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/in Eh might not be the best for my first forum mafia game but waiting for Student mafia is too long >_> edit: you can thank my GF for me being up at 1:10 am to sign up | ||
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On December 01 2015 10:26 Half the Sky wrote: Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. If we discover you to have changed any content, you will be modkilled. This includes posts where you have embedded an image, changing the image is tantamount to changing the post. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again using the acronym (EBWOP: Edit by way of posting) if you want to clarify/correct something you just posted. Wait......Did I? On December 13 2015 15:09 Shapelog wrote: edit: you can thank my GF for me being up at 1:10 am to sign up Hahahahaha wow..... I am a dumbpickle. Guess this is what you get for posting after being up for 27 hours hahaha. Won't do again. Also won't Post again until confirmation or if Mod asking me a question | ||
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On December 14 2015 05:59 Half the Sky wrote: Seeing the poll, we'll be going with 5 pages of filter per day and night cycle (48h day/23+1 night), and moderators will warn if you are hitting the limit. If you are at the limit or beyond with a warning, do note that you still CAN change votes in the voting thread - any votes in the voting thread will NOT count towards the limit. We are not out and looking to modkill people, that is not the point, we just do not want people to be wading through a quagmire this close to the holidays.  Also of note, since you are new here, even in games without post-restrictions, make sure you aren't actively spamming the thread - EBWOPs (edit by way of post) are fine but 10 one-liners or talking to your self for pages at a time is probably going to get you a tap on the shoulder from some mods. Ok thanks for the info! | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:01 LightningStrike wrote: Hey guys! Let's lynch some scum and here how we should do it: Step 1: Find the scum through interactions Step 2: Lynch the scum Step 3: ????? Step 4: Profit. Any questions or comments? Can step 3 be eating? | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:11 Sukrit wrote: This post is complete shit. I dont expect this from town koshi. Koshi is lazy as scum. This excuse this early is really bad. The Koshi i saw in Haunted mason hunted down his prey and killed them. He tunneled Onegu hard. Heck he even had conversations with himself. The town koshi I seen at least is very different then this Koshi. So it is a bit scummy IMO. Sukrit seems to be everywhere and already accusing people. I don't know if this is how he plays D1 so idk if hes normally this aggressive. If someone can back this up that would be swell. Lightning Strike seems Meh. Not a lot to really go after. | ||
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On December 14 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote: Sukrit is a smurf obviously lol.... Oh yeah i just saw his post count lol. makes me wonder. On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia? Must admit is a bit weird to out yourself as a Miller already. Could be scum posing as Miller or Really is Miller who find out day. And if we really want to get next level we could say a scum team of LS/Damdred could be possible? I mean its a bit far fetch right now but.......think about it. LS building town cred by pointing out the elephant in the room. Which could be his mafia partner? But not pushing him hard enough (or for that matter seriously enough) to actually draw big attention to Damdred? Then the two follow up posts kinda fits this like a glove. Idk I take note of it being possible and move on. | ||
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Probably , nonsense is the most helpful thing too do. I mean I can mention how the time I broke my toe makes GiygaS Scum. Or how Damdred usage of master points to him being a demigod and smiting GB. Or the fact the Koshi is being the anti-fun police and is bringing in his tear gas points to him being the Mouse Queen.But i'm not because that is nonsense. | ||
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On December 14 2015 09:11 Koshi wrote: I ll never post nothing. I ll probably be around as much as I was in the last game. Just will be typing less, so I will be watching a lot. SOMEBODY IS WATCHING ME!!!!!!! Sorry i had too. Also welcome TT, sorry work screw you over. And Koshi, would this mean no circle/pyramid of love out of you this game? If so I going to file a Lawsuit or eat popcorn while figuring out TT and others.  | ||
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On December 14 2015 10:30 Damdred wrote: Let me tell you why you are totally wrong in how you are approaching koshi. 1) you say that koshi is going to be super lazy and you are content voting him because that's his scum meta. In actuality you are right about his meta but dead wrong in your interpretation of what koshi said. If you read koshis post he clearly states he's going to focus on building cases and finding mafia. A clearly different thing especially since generally cases take a decent bit of effort which scum koshi lacks. 2) you say my post is terrible because you read koshi on his d1. Though you correct yourself by saying I said 24 hours. In actuality I a aid we shouldn't bother koshi so that we can see what he comes up with. Since you know he said he would focus on cases and finding scum instead of spamming the thread. ....like I said give koshi space and some time see what he comes up with. Alright lets let the beast sleep at least for today. However, if nothing comes out of it I kinda have to lean scum onto him. I honestly have nothing on him other his meta and that is just off of what I saw/gather from other people and Haunted Mason. I kinda getting a scummy feel from Sukrit. Although it is early, I was just going through his filter. 4/5 of his game posts is him/her accusing people without any info. I mean these aren't even really leans as it is just "Hey this doesn't fit that guys meta, lynch the witch!" kinda post. All I see is him/she trying to make it look like they are reading people so they can earn town cred and such. This post is complete shit. I dont expect this from town koshi. Koshi is lazy as scum. This excuse this early is really bad. Man I am finding everything terrible. Koshi is best read by his day one. Like this post is also terrible. Koshi, Damdred scum team. I mean his/her posts follow zero logic what so ever. Their only reasoning is "this post is shit" but don't explain why other then meta? Seems Scummy too me. | ||
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On December 14 2015 11:11 Sukrit wrote: What is wrong with meta I may or may not have played multiple games with koshi. Prove that my meta read is wrong then you can talk. And then I will prove that you are wrong. I wonder if you have a brother who for a nickel with buy me a drink. I wasn't saying it was wrong, nor was I saying you were right. I just was saying that if you could provide more information other then meta then I can believe you more. You were just saying "This is shit based off meta" which while is ok. Doesn't convince me that he couldn't go against his meta for a game. And the timing I will admit is a bit weird, it really NAI. Who knows maybe he's tired. Honestly, he hasn't posted much and it's still early in the game. I would be concern if he said "I finding detail reads on my scum leads" and a hour before deadline didn't post any reads. Time will tell with Koshi. I would laugh if Koshi flips Mafia. Maybe then our scums team would combine too LS/Damdred/Koshi possibly at the point? | ||
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On December 14 2015 11:25 GlowingBear wrote: Sorry, why are you thinking about teams right now? I suggest early that LS/damred/??? could be a team (even though it was far fetch even for me, see #76). That why I would laugh if me and him predicted mafia D1 and just thought it was too far fetch XD. While it's a possibility, I doubt it. Also thank you for your earlier post btw. | ||
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Half that and Half I think i throw it out there for later so i won't forget. I tend to overthink things so even if i overthink, i post it and i look back at it and decide if it was garage or worth something. If i was going accuse this person and this person are mafia, then i would make sure I had more info than a hunch to go off of. | ||
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On December 14 2015 11:44 GlowingBear wrote: Fair enough. Let's talk about them, separately Can you please explain everything you think against them? Eh most of it is void now but in the moment I thought their conversation was a bit off, Individually: Damred: thought was weird to claim miler for obivs reasons. LS: his reaction to Damred kinda felt planned in my head. Sounded and was timed almost like it was planned So I thought "hey if i was mafia i could make it sound like a townie v townie and we can get off to a good start." Which now that i retype it and had time to think about it. Doesn't make that much sense until the follow up comments. But honestly seems really overthought. They said they pulled a palmar on me..... still have no clue what that is | ||
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On December 14 2015 12:14 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar is one of the best players in these forums, currently mia Ah ok thanks for the clarification. | ||
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On December 14 2015 12:19 Sukrit wrote: I am Palmar and claiming mafia... Hey he's MIA... can't i capture it and get a reward? Turn him in for deserting the Royal Forums Army? | ||
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On December 14 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote: I never heard of it honestly lol. Prob because my friends and family never did Kwanza at least as far as I know. Eh I never seen it in person. My religion doesn't have a "Christmas" so I get to piss off my family by using it as a get out of jail free card. | ||
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On December 14 2015 12:35 LightningStrike wrote: But his liver might not handle it :o + Show Spoiler + I honestly don't know how much he drinks lol. Now I want alcoholic beverages. But I dont want to go to the Licker Store At 11 PM. Guess Eggnog will have to do then. | ||
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Lets get to work. On December 14 2015 16:59 Tictock wrote: Ok gave this game a quick reread now that I'm home and not being distracted or as constrained on time. Damdred is prob town for the Miller thing, plus he made a good point about meta-ing Koshi (or rather not rushing to meta Koshi). Easy start to a townpile. Gunna retract my town read on Shape from earlier, though I think I just need to see more out of him. Scummy Stuff: Jumped on the LS vote real fast, applying meta based on one game, kinda all over the place with reads Towny Stuff: Throwing out lots of thoughts/ideas, engaged, not concerned with how his suggestions make him look @Shape, have you read other games or just Haunted Mansion? Also welcome to the forums! Well I got a Day and a half of actual intelligence instead of last night to contribute. Prepare for actual reads when a lynching comes nearer. Out of the three who jumped on LS at the beginning. Only one of them is still holding true to that vote. Sukrit revoted and Koshi stayed. Plus out of the three I would had more of a reason to hold onto my vote (with my theory) then the other two. And I unvoted, can't remember why but i am sure I had a reason And no, I only followed/read Haunted Mansion. But I figured Koshi's town meta would be more like that since everyone else jumped on his post about only lower activity. On December 14 2015 17:42 GiygaS wrote: Shape on the other hand took it as a calculated move on the mafia's part, which he's now abandoned. Seems to be going back and forth on a ton of theories with a sort of reckless abandon. Makes me lean town on him, and makes sense with his long stretch of no sleep. I still want to see what kind of posts he makes once he's more awake though. Speaking of sleep... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . Wait till you see drunken shapelog. Shit will hit the fan if i decide to get drunk while playing  .On December 14 2015 18:14 ritoky wrote: reasons: shape is town cuz he went derpies. mafia doesn't go derpies over a missed joke and mafia doesn't go derpies while not reading the setup/roles. shape went derpies over those things thus town. i thought tt made same read as me, thus he is town. he then retracted his read so clearly he was not inside my brain lobe and is no longer town. his retracted read gives a null read that is even-handed. it is horse shit. it treats shape's alignment less than 12 hours into the game as some dynamic puzzle or something. it just feels like forced fabricated gray goo; plus there's no point to it other than maybe he realized he is tring someone he can ml. you said you liked 1 post, do you really need that much explanation to downgrade to null? overexplainers anonymous released demographics recently and turns out 70% of members are mafia. his questions don't feel like they are headed to conclusions his response to kush is awkward; it feels like he wants to make a joke but wants to be srs. too considered of a response. he pings lurkers, statistics have something to say about this and the propensity of it leading to mafia. TT to kinda still hasn't done anything anything to me to indicate he's scum or town. Mainly because it's too early in the game to get a tons of reads. All he seems to do is trying to make small talk and picking up reads on people. Which is fine tbh. His posts about Koshi was like mine and everyone else, write koshi down as suspicious and then move off of him for the time. Then gives Damred a town lean, which isn't helpful since its about Miller and him defending Koshi from meta concern comments which is NAI. But then kind of just stays on Damred. When Giyga posts two questions about him, TT becomes defensive and ask why Giyga was fixated on Damred. Kinda of a weird thing to do this early. I would of seen how my town lean would of reacted to the questions and then go on from there. Instead, he loses this chance and deters Giyga from Damred for the time being. | ||
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On December 14 2015 22:54 Koshi wrote: And the 3 people with the most votes got lynched/modkilled on D1. We played a very good mafia game there. But fucking bullshitted by hosts/set up. Anyway. 2 posts is enough on that. HOLY FUCK YOU FUCKERS. I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT THAT GAME. NOW I EVEN REMEMBER THE NAME. And heres the Koshi I know | ||
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On December 15 2015 02:39 GiygaS wrote: I'm sorry but what does NAI mean? I tried looking it up but couldn't find anything. Not Alignment Indicate. Doesn't actually tell you if they are town or scum | ||
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On December 15 2015 04:30 Koshi wrote: Also. I think I should have some more transparity if I want to be the overwatch guy. I think Rels is a good candidate for mafia because he is making excuses 10 hours in this game on page 9. Which is 6-7 pages into the game? I don't know how intense the other game is, but knowing how active rels is, I know he can keep up and say something interesting in this game. So the excuse looks to me like: "Hi guys, here is a really great excuse so that I don't need to do anything that helps town while keeping my options open to come in the thread when I need to push mafia agenda" This is a good point made towards Rel and Koshi's follow up supports it. I can see it as a back up lynch (or even a lynch if he doesn't start posing much.) I even think it kinda is better then Giyga Lynch ATM. However, it is weird (at least for me) for GB to come back to the thread and to say it's a poor reason and leave. Obliviously he might only had time for only a post but still he could of at least mention why he thought it was bad. I mean koshi's reasoning I admit is a bit sketchy, but it is still believable and is a possibility. Surkit is for me, a bit well weird. He goes after people but fails to actually deliver any real evidence. His only real decent post was this: QUOTE]On December 15 2015 04:06 Sukrit wrote: I am not telling you guys who I am so yeah. Why is shape defending himself when most people just town read him. That seems out of place to me. Really out of place. I am fine with kush. And dont really understand Koshi's point on GiygaS. This game has been light and not to much to comment on. Is it a bit weird he commented on it? Maybe but not enough to warrant a vote. Can you tell me why ritoky is townie kush? I have him completely null is there something you are seeing that I am not? So we have multiple people scum reading ticktock but no votes on him. This seems out of place. Lets remedy that. ##Unvote ##Vote Ticktock. I havent forgot about you koshi. You have like 4 hours before you 24 hours are up. I suggest you impress me something you are severely not doing currently.[/QUOTE] But even here he votes on TT just because everyone else is discussing TT. It's almost like he's sheeping/parroting and the rest is just fluff to hide it. And in the fluff, it's all either something dissuised already (the point made about me), or questioning other players (kush and riktoy points). And then his Koshi-content post. I just getting a weird vibe from Surkit. I feel like he's trying to be reverent and is trying to get a bandwagon on someone without really anything to support it. Maybe i am weird thou? TT is still Null for me atm. Just got to wait and see for him. Same with GB. And LS and Damred are leaning towards town atm for me. Just leans thou | ||
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On December 15 2015 07:01 Sukrit wrote: So I make this post agreeing with ritoky about TT. And then Koshi makes almost the same post except I vote him and you call me out for it but not koshi? I still dont like how you defended yourself for no reason either. But Koshi, even though coming to the same conclusion about TT, went after giyga vs TT. He brought his own theory and evidence and decided to lynch Giyga over TT (which TT isn't even his back up lynch.) And here you also follow off of Ritoky's idea. Come to think about it, U later decided to post about it later instead of posing about it at the best time possible. Also if you talking about defending myself over the LS/Damred miller thing and about Koshi. It was kinda brought up by the others. TT especially asked why i was quoting Koshi meta off of one game which I explain why later on to him. | ||
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On December 15 2015 07:23 Koshi wrote: Did I ever say something about TT? Did I agree on TT being town? Dafuq I can't remember that. And what is this about Giyha vs TT? I never took a stance in that battle because I don't even remember it being a thing. According to surkit you did. I think he said based off that post you called TT scum. I just said you picked Giyga to lynch over TT (which is what he implied). Not that it was a Giyga vs TT bandwagon. Put the Vs there to show how you pick Giyga over TT. Prob could of been clearer Tbh | ||
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On December 15 2015 07:28 Koshi wrote: ahhhhhhhhhhhhh it is about ritoky saying something smart. ahyeah now I remember, the thing with TT and his afk list. about that though, I hope Vivax and tubesock come :/ Yeah me too. Tubesock seems like a helpful individual too | ||
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On December 15 2015 09:57 Sukrit wrote: Shape that is Ok maybe it is. But still with 15 years of writing help i should be able to be at least a bit better at it. Heck I think sleep deprive shape was better. Maybe i should get drunk. It might help me read. | ||
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On December 15 2015 09:59 LightningStrike wrote: Shape can you give me your thoughts cleary now that you did sleep? Sure. At least i can try too. I do it in a list too. I love lists for the most part. GigyaS: Null for the most part. Waiting for him to get back from studying and what not. The few posts he has posted have been decent (more towards the begaining of the day.) Still waiting for his response about me (i'm selfish) (nvm TT responded) Koshi: Improved, I wouldn't mind putting him as town atm. Hasn't done anything scummy (some light stuff at the beginning, but that about it.) But i think he should build a circle of love. Rels: I gotten a Town vibe from him, But not enough really. His LS push felt townie since for the most part it was out the window. Gotten to read D1 from dark tourney, not sure 100% yet about the whole thing yet. Tubesock: 2 posts, but 1st post was ok. Waiting to see more. GB: No Clue Vivax: MIA Surkit: Aggressive, pushes for little to no reasons. Getting a scummy feel off of him. Also involves Koshi when i point him out about TT and how I didn't push Koshi when he did and what not. I mean he's ping ponging from person from person, never really staying on a person except Koshi. Now is on me. Would be in head for 1st day lynch. Kush: Null for now. Pretty sure GB said he was scummy; Don't agree with GB but i not defending Kush. Shapelog: About to get drunk for no good reason. TT: Don't really have a full blown case on him. wished he didn't defend damred earlier on but still. Seems concern about the game. Kinda had a scummy lean/feel on him, mostly from my gut. Gut is where my shit is, so this may be shit. Ritoky: Called me town, defended(ish) me as town. Then left. Do not know why he is doing this. I mean i like it sense I am town. Maybe he really likes my plays or something, idc/idk. LS: Town vibe, rereading dark tourment. Rels did bring a good point thou. However, still like his early game and his jokingness. Also Yelling about voting seems about right. Damred: Null leaning town, most posts are NAI but time is telling. Mostly i'm just waiting. except for Surkit. Shall rethink in shower | ||
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## Vote:Sukrit I'm tired of the ping ponging, non info built, votes. Maybe he likes putting pressure on people, idk. I feel the entire, But "Koshi did it too" incident and his drop this case take this one ordeal pushed me to vote for him. Heck, he votes me on the same princable because I don't agree with his ping ponging? Also scummy feels. And with that, I bid thee a toast. For i need one. | ||
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2. I love nickpicking, isn't that oblivious. Makes people mad with me, like you. Also: On December 14 2015 18:10 Sukrit wrote: Yeah I can actual feel you here. Like his post about hope to hear from these people was kinda off in a game that is less than 12 hours old. Kinda weird to me. Also his posts are asking about the obvious joke between LS and Damdred really felt forced. Alright i will give you the part about adding info too it (my bad) But the posts about asking were pretty much NAI. Heck Town lean from TT on damdred. [QUOTE] So we have multiple people scum reading ticktock but no votes on him. This seems out of place. Lets remedy that. ##Unvote ##Vote Ticktock. [QUOTE] But yet you argue you have info, but instead of posing it with this post (or restating it) you just say "Everyone else is thinking about it, So i will do it first" At least thats what i am getting from it. Koshi vote feels Ok, just not backed up. Hes either town or really good mafia at this point, yet you continued. Which hey, might mean you town, or scum. To me its NAI. You prime reasoning was his back up lynch didn't make sense? Isn't that why it's called a back up lynch? Then I mention something about a post that just had a hint of Koshi and what do you know. Your voting me. On the fact that i found your post more scummy than Koshi. And yes i know the LS vote was a joke, I was there. | ||
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On December 15 2015 11:36 ritoky wrote: shape i still think you're town cuz derpies and probably will never waver on that read, but when you post stupid shit like that and half a page of say nothing null reads it just makes you lynch bait that is progressively harder to defend over time. True, I might just step back for a while till i get more reads that arent null. Or just cut all the null reads and post only leans and such. forum mafia is still new | ||
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##Unvote Surkit/Onegu I can understand now the angle he is coming from now. I am calmer today and reasonable. He did had reason, just wasn't huge IMO. Also because i think there is better people to lynch then him. I grab a notebook this morning. Going to put notes on everyone in it. Started at 8 and its helping. Might post the reads from it but no right now. Trying to piece together things. I do have a far fetch idea involving Rit, but this isn't the time to post it. Got paperwork today so i should be on for almost all today. | ||
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On December 16 2015 00:52 Rels wrote: Yo shape what do you think of giygasa and TT ? They are my two options right now. TT has been lazyish. But I think this boils down to him having work, which he mention pre game. Most of what he been doing is +1ing till post #163. Gives reads on me and damred. Lists reasons why I could be scum. But he doesn't push it, which is weird because if reverse I would push it and see. Especially that early in the game with nothing to do. Idk maybe that hows he plays. Then the list was weird about inactives. Also him asking who to Sheep is weird, with 8 hours roughly left and no bandwagons seems like he trying to pass through the day. Very different then Haunted Mason, But then again new job and he was pushed in that game. GiygaS Khan (I like that, Shall use it from now on), First i would like to point out his reads on me: Town Lean -> Null -> Wtf -> Inexperience? which is irreverent, but yeah. The "lies" about him and LS seems weird. And even more weird is his vote logic on you. Where he stated your case was BS and that you forgetting about LS's conservative post post. Can't really read him though. | ||
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On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote: shape is town kush is probably town not interested in lynching koshi not interested in lynching damdred not interested in lynching rels no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment tt is probably mafia gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit every1 else is nai or unremarkable @ TT, Yeah i have no clue why Rit has a Confirmed town read on me based off a derpiz. I like it though. However, my overthinking brain has a idea that is far fetch, But makes sense. Not sure yet about it. Will think it over. | ||
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On December 16 2015 02:23 Sukrit wrote: Legit question. Anyone find it weird that koshi was having brain cancer when people thought the smurf was Onegu mentions it like 5 times, Yet when I fuck up and out myself HE SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT? I mean serious. Maybe to tinfoil but I am thinking he actually figured I was the smurf and was for some reason trying to throw other people. off. Serious why doesn't he mention anything about finding out the smurf was actually me? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On December 16 2015 02:29 Sukrit wrote: True, Just the first thing that came to mind. You really think this is enough of a response? And it wasnt the first thing he posted after I was outed. | ||
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Fair fetch Theroy: (Spoilers) + Show Spoiler + Ok so Ritoky has been defending me all game and calling me confirmed town is weird. I know i am town, but i do not think i have posted anything that makes me confirmed town. And all he does and says derps to defend me. When TT retakes his town read on me, Rit retakes his read on TT. He seems hellbent on defending me. With only reasoning being "oh hes derping thats town, Next level stuff." IDK maybe he likes me. OR maybe he is scum. He knows i'm town if he is mafia and make it seem like mafia defending mafia. Then i'll get lynch for the consent defense and flip town, it will bring him tons of town cred. I know this is far fetch but it makes sense. Why else would he be defending me so hard? Why read into my dumbness? | ||
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But I left this off from far fetch theory: At ##342, he said i was confirmed town. Not maybe, or very, Confirmed. Does this not bother anyone. I mean idk why i fighting against this so hard. But then again, everyone said I was town/thought i was townish at the beginning and i just went on posting garbage tbh. I haven't posted anything uber townie. But he ranks me higher then Koshi? Weird. Then when someone asks why he is defending me, its "next level thinking" response. Why not explain what so next level about it? Why is that only convinced thought? That derps is Town and not NAI? I mean i love the free town read, but it suspicious to me. | ||
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On December 16 2015 02:51 Koshi wrote: It's when his easy townread on you melts when you become a misslynch further in the game you should make a deal out of it. Ok. Keep it in the back of my head for now. Why I called it far fetched. Meh better then doing nothing i suppose. About Onegu, I feel it is strange for him to bring up Outing. I mean i can see it from him if he wanted to gauge your response. But idk why he made such a big deal of it. Maybe it just Onegu trolling? Idk, first time playing and trying to adapt to forum. I mean if he is the "Koshi master" then shouldn't he be keeping tabs on you? If he thinks your scum, shouldn't he be keeping up with what your posing? I would if I was him. All game, Onegu been trollish so maybe he isn't mafia since in haunted mason he did the same (under different circumstances though). Or if that is how he is as mafia it would be scummy? | ||
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On December 16 2015 03:00 Koshi wrote: Fuck that shit. I am going to calm down and read. I really think Onegu should just be lynched for being the dumbest fucker alive who appears to also be mafia but seriously. I felt really good about my TT, GB, Kush and Rels list earlier. I only feel good about GB. inactive for the most part, and anyone can get drunk. But not always at the right time. Seemed he entered when it was beneficial. | ||
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On December 15 2015 23:01 GlowingBear wrote: I've seen nothing suspicious and worth of contributing. I won't force a read I don't have. What I do have is a town read on shapelog, he seems fairly townie to me because he drops every single thought he has on the thread, and a lot of them are paranoia, which looks townie. Other than that, nothing seems really relevant. I will do a re read once I can, but today I work until deadline. Let's see if I will be able This feels weird. Its like, "I have nothing and that's about it". He comments on me, then states he won't be here. It's almost like he skating by. Might be work, but if I say that everytime no one is getting lynched lol. Interested to see what happens when he rereads. | ||
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On December 16 2015 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: Mafia lurkers won the game without giving any kind of information. And doing nothing is kush's specialty. I prefer to get rid of the question mark Ah makes sense. Thanks for the calcification. | ||
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We have a TT which is different from Haunted mafia. Onegu had a post about TT awhile ago. Koshi asked GB his ideas about TT. He seems different from it too IMO. I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't ##Vote Ticktock And who knows Koshi. With step-up being random, someone might be Sugar fairy and heal. | ||
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On December 16 2015 04:51 Tictock wrote: Just got home, got out a little early kus it's Blizzarding here. I'll do the filter dive of Gig I promised Rels and then catchup with what I've missed thus far. While at work I was thinking about the whole Rit hardreading Shape. It's possible that what he said about "One moment defines a player" is just really how he's approaching this game (I don't recall him ever useing thinking like this before though, so it's weird) but I think it might be an indication that Rit is mafia. So I know for sure we aren't looking at a Rit/Shape team here, kus I just don't believe Rit would hard defend a teammate like he is. I'm wondering now if the hard townread is a sign of TMI? Like it dosn't make a ton of sense for Rit to have such a hard townread on Shape if he's town, he even made a post pointing out that Shape was doing some stuff that was stupid or looked bad, it also makes no sense for Rit to hard defend a scummate. However it makes perfect sense for a scum!Rit to hard defend a new-to-our-fourms town!Shape who people might have a hard time reading well. Would give him a nice platform to push from while seeming like he wants to prevent a mislynch. The other thing that I was thinking about, is why am I the only person to have irked Rit for my read on Shape? I know he posted out his thoughts on why he thought I was scum for rethinking my read but he's given little to no reaction to anyone else scumreading Shape. I realize my view on Rit is rather tainted with OMGUS kus he has a fordrawn conclusion to lynch me here, and my thinking here is more WIFOM than real evidence but I'm thinking Rit might be scum here. Only thing making me a bit unsure is that Rit is rather invested in his reads (pushing them etc) and cares about the lynch. So right now I'd put Rit as a OMGUS tainted scumlean. Glad to hear you concern about this as I am. Reason why i unvoted you for now. | ||
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On December 16 2015 05:31 Rels wrote: Yep it's quite different from the two last games I played. I think he has a good chance at flipping scum. Far fetched Miller idea was half correct? | ||
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On December 16 2015 05:49 Tictock wrote: I see our tinfoil is set to the same frequency sir. What do you make of the fact that Rit only cares about me rethinking my read on you, but doesn't really bother with anyone else who isn't sure about you, or even scumreads you? He defended me against surkit so it is not just you. He also went against TS about his read about me. It doesn't make sense to defend me, unless he has something to gain from it. | ||
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On December 16 2015 06:21 ritoky wrote: why rit is mafia and gig is mafia case before reading and analyzing thread? He said he thought about during work or something (at least for you, dunno about giygas khan). | ||
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On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why tt is potentially mafia book it would basically be: he tr shape for good reason (i thought) at proper time and when it was popular, then backed out of it for a bad/no reason when it was popular, was awkward, then has basically snap conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him. . Yay i'm popular lol. But really, TT didn't IMO pull out at a popular time. In fact, he the first person to pull out of a Town read. Giyga khan, LS, Damdred, Surkit all did it after his post about me. Not defending TT here, just don't understand how this is was the Popular time. | ||
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Like Gb posts weren't that good when he had free time (sunday) work might be factoring into that but still | ||
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TT + Show Spoiler + I am not confinde in him yet. I unvoted so i could hear his agurment against Rik. Not sure about him, i been having a scummy/null feeling about him. His posts when he came back i admit feels rushed, But might be because he felt pressure from lynch? idk, but he starting to look like he did in Haunted mason Damred + Show Spoiler + RL stuff, Want Bomb GB + Show Spoiler + Again RL stuff. However, weaker case vs Damred because he had sunday to post and his posts seems lackluster. Might just be him on D1 who knows I say if Kush doesn't come we lynch him | ||
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And? Can you explain? nothing in the post to me makes me mafia. Is it because i want to lynch Kush or something? I mean it makes sense to lynch Kush if he doesn't come right? | ||
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I know i'm reading into a meta that was only brought to my attention by peoples posts about him. But still why i'm i mafia. P.S. third sentence in #588 was suppose to me "Nothing in the post to me sound/makes me mafia" | ||
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On December 16 2015 07:20 Rels wrote: How is it scum indicative when I thought deadline was in 10 minutes and nobody wanted to vote Damdred ? I was on the fence about Damdred. I also thought we had 10 minutes too because it said it on the deadline. Once he came back i wonder if i should. To me Kush makes more sense thou | ||
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##Vote:Kush Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me. | ||
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Anyways I see GB got lynched? I mean this is how i saw the EoD lynchs b/4 i left: "ok let me run threw the list" GB: Doesn't seem scum, worried over mafia tipping the scale too easily. TT: Seem more like his townself. Also wanted to see his D2. Damred: Meh. I guess he could be, but there isn't anything pushing me to lynch him. Kush: No changed for the most part. Still the same as i felt b/4. So thats my reasoning behind that vote. After the filp and reading Kush's response, I can understand his reasoning. He did die D1 in dark as the Boxer. Still need to think fully about my position on him. Do it in the shower, then come back and reread what i missed of EoD. | ||
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I decided to Look at GB lynch. I was thinking about it while I was in bed. GB lynch was probably the worse choice in retrospective. If we Run threw the list of the outcomes of a flip per person this is what it comes down too: GB: If town, only the voting process really matters in finding scum such as who voted and why (get to this latter).If scum: Well scum, I mean all we would gather is that I have a better town chance and maybe the chance of Kush flipping mafia? Damred: If town, LS is prob. town. Vixax lynch becomes more of a option. If scum: LS is prob. scum. Vixax lynch becomes less big. TT: If town, Rik could have a good chance of flipping mafia due to him early on wanting to tunnel and lynch TT. Giyga Khan could also be mafia. If scum, Rik and Giyga khan (at least Giyga khan) becomes more townie. Kush: if town, RIk is town. Only one who really defended him hard and early on read him as town. If scum, Rik becomes a 65/35 chance as mafia. (explain lower) I will now go into detail about the people who lynched GB: (spoiled for my amusement) Kush + Show Spoiler + His claims: "inactiveness/Joking around/Being lazy". Which funny enough fits Kush as well. Not really a whole lot for me to go off of him through. Still has a one page filter, and only post during voting was telling me which a lynch on him is a bad idea. Does no one else wonder why he just comes back, sees himself getting lynched. And mostly comments on why I am lynching him? On December 16 2015 07:33 kushm4sta wrote: sorry guys i had a lunch meeting. I won't be able to catch up on reading tonight. Pretty dumb to lynch me due to a lurker meta though. Whether I am a lurker or not has nothign to do with alignment and everything to do with how busy I am. Dark tournament I was also lynched d1 for low activity and I was also town. So keep that in mind. I mean other people voted him because they either claim of the low activity or because he was useless (pretty sure GB said the latter.) Does it not bother anyone? maybe not because this might just be normal Kush. Rikoty: (warning, conspiracy shapelog theory) + Show Spoiler + His reasons: underwhelming, to piss him off/pressure vote (also because he was worse then him? might be pointed to TT and i read wrong). However, said during vote his was going to switch to TT. On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote: too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me. shape is town kush is probably town not interested in lynching koshi not interested in lynching damdred not interested in lynching rels no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment tt is probably mafia gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit every1 else is nai or unremarkable ##vote: glowingbear i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why tt is potentially mafia book it would basically be: he tr shape for good reason (i thought) at proper time and when it was popular, then backed out of it for a bad/no reason when it was popular, was awkward, then has basically snap conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him. Lol what? "snap and conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him." On December 14 2015 16:59 Tictock wrote: Ok gave this game a quick reread now that I'm home and not being distracted or as constrained on time. Damdred is prob town for the Miller thing, plus he made a good point about meta-ing Koshi (or rather not rushing to meta Koshi). Easy start to a townpile. Gunna retract my town read on Shape from earlier, though I think I just need to see more out of him. Scummy Stuff: Jumped on the LS vote real fast, applying meta based on one game, kinda all over the place with reads Towny Stuff: Throwing out lots of thoughts/ideas, engaged, not concerned with how his suggestions make him look @Shape, have you read other games or just Haunted Mansion? Also welcome to the forums! On December 15 2015 02:48 Tictock wrote: I've got shit for time today but will try to keep up with reading if I can. Rit you might be right about Shape, I just saw those couple of things when rereding and wanted to take a step back. It sounds like you did pick up on the same thing in that post I liked though, I think Damdred saw it too. @Rels, I was thinking of checking LS's past games if his activity dropped off here after that open. He's stayed pretty active though so didn't seem worth the time. Might like Kush a little more since his open. On December 16 2015 01:02 Tictock wrote: Ok somewhat caught up now, but I wont be able to do much posting till I'm off work in like 3 hours. Rit is giving me seriuse Dejavu, like This push on me is so similar to GB's push on me last game it's scary. The problem I have with Rit's push is that he is basing it off an unwavering townread on Shape and has in turn formed an unwavering scumread on me. What especially bugs me is the fact that both GB last game and Rit this game throw out is " I like to be right" as if that furthers your read at all. Now I realize my posting has been lackluster due to my lack of time and I don't expect anyone to have a townread on me or anything, but being tunneled for posting my thoughts on a null read is pretty lame. @ Rit, I totally disagree with the " One moment seals your alignment" nonsense you are spouting. Maybe you think that way, but I like to take a step back from my reads and reevaluate from time to time. I still need to get better at it because I tend to get tunneled on shit like GB last game. Sorry i don't really see the OMGUS/conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him. I seeing TT being a bit paranoid about me (also asked Giyga khan about me) and eventurlly comes to the same agreement. But he is still uncomfortable about me due to Rik's unwavering Townread. So i really don't get were Rik is coming from. On December 16 2015 07:25 ritoky wrote: i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt. basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game. outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets. i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear. Rik's then stays on TT trails. But then suddenly TT is his alliterative lynch? With all of his posts B/4 about TT and how he wanted to lynch. With all the things about TT he chooses GB? Because he wanted better from him? After TT questions his change of heart. Riks responds it because he didn't deliver. But yet, GB called me mafia at #585. Rik, who of all people, wanted to see GB perform does not question GB Why i am mafia. Only I do. Granted, GB didn't post back to me asking until 70ish posts later. In the case Rit is scum. I can see the set up for a Mislynch on GB/TT. Picks a person/s who won't be on much (and most people forgot weren't going to be on.)And then pressure votes on, Which btw Kush already have done for GB. (Possibity of a scum/mason team of Rit/Kush? I know people said he wouldn't hard defend a teammate. But hes been defending Kush. Kush has been mainly null too townish for the most part on people's radar. Also lack of content +Kush "normal" lack of content = easy defend.) On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved. I mean the post about kush mafianess doesn't really tell much. basically paints a picture that kush isn't mafia. Posting at the proper time and with extra information hasn't been showing. It's like Rik is saying Kush is mafia for these reason and isn't following them. Like he trying to hide a scum/mason team underneath it. My only problem with Rit/Kush scum team is that he couldn't predicted Damred shenanigans. Unless Rit/Kush/Damred is a mafia team, which would be very far fetch considering the fact Damred was voting Kush. This is why i am leaning more to a mason team then a scum team. Who knows maybe Rit/Kush is a scum team, or i might just be a insane person with tinfoil on my head. Also Rik did get mad at shenanigans, which would save his teammate. wow did i just disbunk my own theory? Oh well 2 hours wasted. Might as well leave this. Koshi+ Show Spoiler + Reason: Gb is a liability. I really do not have a problem right now about this. His vote was like mine, Idk who to vote which one do i think is best. Vivax+ Show Spoiler + Reason: Koshi did it. Vivax is giving me a scum feeling. He's sheeping, He posted his thoughts about Onegu in the form of a +1 off of my initial read and about LS and damred reading each other. Then just says i follow Koshi. Weird tbh, I would think he be more active and more concern about who he votes. Could of been around voting too. I also agree with the Vivax shenanigans. Damred+ Show Spoiler + Shenagains makes me lean town on him. It's not something i would do as mafia. If he was mafia, Kush and Gb would be innocent. Why bring atteation unto himself? He would be better off mislynching Kush and pushing GB. Makes me want to say town I would say the person with the most chance out of the 5 to flip mafia is Kush. Might be tunneling him and trying to find a reason to lynch him through. Vivax is a great choice too. And this is My current Town list going into Day 2: Town: Koshi Damread Town leans: LS Tictock Surkit/Onegu Rels Null: Tubesock -Nothing from his filter makes me jump town Scum Leans GiygaS Khan - Missed Voting, Can see where he is coming from with shengaings. Want to see more about him. Rikoty - Debunked my theory on him. Put him here because of that weird town read denfense for me. Might be town though Scum: Kush -I just have a gut hard feeling that hes mafia. Vivax- Lack of content, brainless sheeping, half a page of filter. Also i am so happy I am everywhere. So many people are talking about me. Makes me happy. Can't wait till Surengo (sounds like that cheese company surego) push and gut feeling which is wrong. | ||
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On December 17 2015 02:12 kushm4sta wrote: Shape why am I mafia if I act like this every game? I'm null imo. Gigas seems like a good person to filter at this time. Anyone else? Gut feeling tbh. Idk i might just tunneling you tbh because of your lack of content. Plus your dark tourment filter looks more helpful then this games (just a observation).GigyaS Khan's filter to me is meh. His scum read on me means nothing since everyone is everywhere about me (I did this on purpose... I think). TT claim lines up with Rit's claim. @ TT, I not sure if kush/GigyaS/Rit could be a team. Read my new theory and see. Might just be under/over thinking or missing something. (also I only got 1-2 more posts) | ||
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On December 17 2015 02:57 kushm4sta wrote: His scumreads look believable and so does his case on rels. Not saying they are right or wrong but they look like townie reads On December 16 2015 02:41 GiygaS wrote: Why do people think my read on rels was the only thing I got out of the filter/thread readover? If you look up you'll see I also had scum reads on tt and shape. Like all these people saying I didn't fulfill promises or came out of reading filters and thread again with 1 awful scum read are just wrong. Clearly I made a mistake reading LS's filter going over it again (I honestly don't know where), so going to unvote rels and put my vote back on tt. ##unvote ##vote tictock I feel like this is also look townish. I can see a frustrated town from this post, who voted TT to maybe to fit in or seem relvent? Can still understand why he is mafia, but this is why he is my weakest scum lean. | ||
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About Gb list. When i typed "oh yeah Gb " I didn't mean to put in the the list at last. And i also forgot about vivax at the time. Gut read on kush is also based off his Dark tournament feed. comparing that game to this, he was more lurker and less helpful. Everything else makes sense, I am contradictioning bastard . (also this is my last post for the day because I have ran out.) I like this post from Giyga Khan too. Prob. will try to do better tomorrow. | ||
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@Rik: How does Damred play make any sense as Mafia? Lets say GB and Kush is town.Why bring attention to himself and try to vote off Vivax? There is the a little sense If kush is mafia, as the sexagenarians(missed spelled it, that pop up, ran with it) would of brought attention to both of them. I mean Rels has already ask for a vig to shoot Kush just to see the flip. Why risk having the attention/exposing himself if Kush doesn't even have the chance of making it to the next day? I feel it's a more Town to nullish kinda move then a mafia move. @GiygaKhan, I feel a lot more town from you based off your earlier post. But, thinking about it, you picked the most lynchable person to make a case on. But I see some reasoning about your points about my contradicting behavior. I also saw you compared me to Sanders which is the real reason why i included you in my post. Sanders checklist: Contradicting behavior: Check Radical Conspirator: Check Brain fogged: Check Democrat: Meh, I believe in independent so half checkish Want College to be free: I remember when i was in college for almost 10 years "how do i pay this off", Check Shapeanders Reporting in for office! | ||
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On December 17 2015 06:31 ritoky wrote: people made big posts about me. i didn't read them. i claimed vt that's all you need to know my alignment. I claiming Mouse Queen, because i wanted to be mafia. And that's all you need to know about my alignment. Srsy, How does claiming a role, espically Vt, going to make me belive your acutrrly Vt. I shouldn't need you to tell me your role. You should be able to make reads, do stuff, and come off as VT. Not say i am Vt (which he did in the beginning of the game) On December 17 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote: anywayz gonna go take my kid to see her first snow, probably not back before deadline, won't be surprised if i get shot. Not game related, But I think Ritoky needs Best father reward. Like this guy has suffer with a baby and is now taking his kids to see their first snow. #Ritokybestfather | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote: Which train? The SKT1 Worlds Train?+ Show Spoiler + I sorry I just loved the thing Montecristo did at worlds 2013 lol Well played sir, That Korean Hype Train was cool. God 1 Million dollar prize pool for a e-sport. never made me more happier to be a gamer in my life! + Show Spoiler + Sad it wasn't Sc2 through, btw i got your Stim meme from b/4 And the Train i Meant was If Ritoky is mafia because of hard town read on me blah blah blah (im too tired to explain it) which has become something big. Like it was my second and third conspiracy theory. ( it was spoilered because if not I would be at 7 page filters with 2nd and third theory) | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:47 LightningStrike wrote: That conspiracy theory doesn't necessary make ritoky mafia. If he's mafia it would be for different reasons(ask Damdred how he reads ritoky) Oh yeah i know the conspiracy theory isn't perfect. But since you suggested. Damdred how do/are you reading Ritkoy? | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:51 kushm4sta wrote: Everyone is talking about how if I'm scum it means this or if I'm down it means this. That's really not productive. If a vigilante wants to shoot me they will shoot me but until then shut the f*** up about your stupid theories please. Im just trying to decide what to push/fight for tomorrow. I want to go into D2 with more of a plan so my filter doesn't fill up with garbage. Don't take offense Kush. | ||
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On December 17 2015 08:05 GiygaS wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble shape, but sanders=autocorrected damdred somehow My bubble was all I had..... Oh well I just make a new conspiracy theory that helps town this time. Can you explain what you meant by sanders=autocorrected damdred somehow? My brain is mush right now and I'm tired. | ||
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On December 17 2015 08:45 GiygaS wrote: I mean I was/am on mobile and somehow i misspelled so that damdred turned in to sanders after autocorrect Oh haha. My Conspiracy theories are working into your phone GiygaS Khan. Soon your pictures and contact information shall be mine!. On December 17 2015 08:46 kushm4sta wrote: So that's got to look good for me right? A townie saved me. Its made me pause. Looks better for you tbh. Idk brain dead from long day of work and got to reread. I feel like miss a lot of things due to my focusing/tunneling you. I think about in the shower. On December 17 2015 08:50 Damdred wrote: Don't say if you have a present or not or mafia can so things etc Oh yeah. Derp. I'm a Overthinking dumbass lol. | ||
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Scum reasoning: Ritoky is what lead me too you. Rit was a major point in my case against you. So if the case fell apart, so would my scum read on you. I hard tunneled Ritoky which lead to me tunneling you. Why go after Kush if Ritkory thought he was inno. Like almost everything was you and him (or you and GiygaS Khan) as a scum(or mason) team. Plus killing the person who is defending you seems like only a thing i do. You don't seem like someone who takes that kinda of chance. You seem more like a calculated mafia player. But then I thought, On December 17 2015 08:46 kushm4sta wrote: So that's got to look good for me right? A townie saved me. On December 17 2015 07:51 kushm4sta wrote: Everyone is talking about how if I'm scum it means this or if I'm down it means this. That's really not productive. If a vigilante wants to shoot me they will shoot me but until then shut the f*** up about your stupid theories please. On December 16 2015 21:10 kushm4sta wrote: It would be cool if you guys could keep me alive until like friday when I'll have time to do stuff. I'll try to do some stuff today at lunch as well. On December 16 2015 20:53 kushm4sta wrote: Wow you guys should have lynched me. what gives On December 17 2015 02:32 kushm4sta wrote: Ya I was more helpful dark tournament for sure. I did also do some trolling that game though. I apologize for my lack of content and i hope to remedy that shortly. Though probably not to the extent you want me to. On December 17 2015 02:26 kushm4sta wrote: Hi tt I will read gigas. Um I said you should have lynched me? Cause then ivwoildnt have to worry about this game anymore 'll Like all of these posts your trying to get people to pitty you. Maybe you are reserve physiology us to think your town. I mean, why so much self pity? Maybe it's because I am underestimating your mafia game play range. This much self pity in such a short time is weird. I mean, i admit i do it sometime in this game, but it's not back to back like this. You also tried to move attention onto GiygaS Khan. But this might be genuine. Town reasoning/why you could be town: Why would you shot Ritkoy if you were mafia. Out of fear of getting lynched instead of him? With the way me and TT was going after him, You could of easilly passed him up in favor of a another shot and Mislynch him today. In fact, once he mislynch you could start Mislynch either me or TT. Makes no sense to waste that opportunity. 6/10 townies dead with three mafia potentiality alive leaves mafia in a great, game winning spot. But I am not going to go after you right now. Mostly this post gave me hope, On December 17 2015 02:32 kushm4sta wrote: Ya I was more helpful dark tournament for sure. I did also do some trolling that game though. I apologize for my lack of content and i hope to remedy that shortly. Though probably not to the extent you want me to. This could maybe explain the self pity. But i srsy doubt it. Instead for the time being, I going to look at Koshius's scum teams and fully read more of those people and see what i think. I know your one of them, and glancing back this saving is why he place you thereish. I might mention you when i talk about it, but for the most part i going to talk more about Rels/Suknegu/Damred. Idk when i will, might try to dumpster dive into their filters tonight and sleep on it. Or i might get done early and post it around tonight. | ||
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On December 17 2015 09:36 Tubesock wrote: That's funny shit. I'm going to admit I don't really understand much of your big list post. Why do LS and Damdred have to be on the same team? Why can't they be budding the other? You seem to tie them together but you have Damdred more towny than LS. I feel the opposite. I think LS has added more thought to the game. The only thing Damdred did I think is towny is scum Rels and that's probably just because Rels cased him. Can you more explain your town read on Damdred? The rest of your associative reads, seems they all preclude that every shitfight 2 players have here are town vs mafia. I read this post and thought you don't think town fights town. That's not true is it? I'm starting to rethink my position on damdred. Earlier on in the EoD, i posted it didn't make much sense if he was mafia and the wagons were both town to do it. Why draw the attention onto himself? But i'm starting to see what Koshius and other people are saying about him. I will look at him in Dark tournament and compare his town game from that to here. And no town does fight town time to time (Should know from TT and Vobby wagons from Haunted mansion). Thanks for bringing this up. I ponder about it with kush. Like it can see it from both sides of the flip. Idk, i just posted that I won't be tunneling the mafia vs town stuff on him for the time being, You been quiet btw. Go any ideas about anything? list, scums teams, anything? | ||
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On December 17 2015 09:58 Tubesock wrote: My last list post I posted before going to bed 10 hours ago is essentially unchanged. Rels is now lower. Ritoky I should put in green but to be funny I'd keep him lower than Koshi because he didn't use Caps Lock or even held his shift key like a real baller. So uh apparently you missed my last couple of posts. Yeah i did miss it. Just looked into your filter and found #719 (your list). I remember seeing the case about you made against Rels now. I didn't really paid attention once it got to the town/mafia meta Rels part, since i'm not the one who should make/back up a meta case. And decided to come back to it later and keep pushing/tunneling. Will add Rels filter from dark tournament also to my read list tonight. I read the post now, But i going to reread what he said during the time he called you scum. | ||
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On December 17 2015 10:02 kushm4sta wrote: hi shape. Anyone who thinks about the game in the shower is definitely town haha. It's not self-pity it's just blatant honesty. "One that masturbate in the shower, is either single or a master at sex. My Girlfriend said the latter about my masturbation." -Shapanders But to be honest I think about this game more then you might think. I've gone threw like 20 pieces of paper writing down how i felt about my conspiracy theories at work/in the mornings. So they aren't half assed. Also I'm going to take your word that it's honesty, at least for now. | ||
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One how the hell did i get masturbation from shower? Too many good times i guess idk. Two: Do not think my actively is actually any alignment indicating for me. Would of been the same activeness roughly if I rolled mafia. Except maybe a bit thought out and better fleshed posts since i had a team to relay things. But then i prob. post dumb, dull, crap time to time because they weren't on lol. | ||
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On December 17 2015 10:33 Tubesock wrote: My town/mafiaRels isn't really all that about meta. I mean it IS but it's not like necessarily Rels specific. Hard to explain. I've seen Rels in like 3 games. He was try hard and forceful in all, both as mafia and town. I respect his play, I think he's a strong player. It's not a meta read where it's like "Well, X person uses 15 smiley faces per paragraph, and this game she's doing 5" It's more like mafia Rels doesn't HAVE to go after it all the time. But town Rels basically does. In any case, disregard the meta bit. Do you think he's solving the game or attacking easy targets or only people who look at him? We can argue the semantics if Damdred is an easy target or not later. I'm even willing to concede Damdred is no easy target. My point still stands. I WANT TO SAY: IT TOOK ME TWO HOURS TO TYPE THIS. please excuse any and all curse words, Donald trump references, and hate from me. Thank you To Tubsock, for putting me threw Hell: Well his first real target is GiygaS Khan. Note this is before TT's post about him. He starts tunneling him hard. He did jump on LS really quickly. Almost like he was choosing him. I admit, Nothing from LS content was overly townie. But for Rels to jump on his post about the 5 page limit is total BS. "reading the thread"? What. did he see Koshi say he will do less and when LS jump on board he decide he wanted to lynch LS over Koshi? For the same thing? Weird. On December 15 2015 18:14 Rels wrote: Here is the content LS produced between my question and my accution in those 9 hours, excluding the posts that answer to me: You dirty liar. ##Vote GiygaS He pulls up the fact that he won as town in his last game. Wow, like that matters! On December 15 2015 18:31 Rels wrote: 1 - that's definitely a lie. He didn't say "I feel LS isn't scum and is attacked for nothing, he said "In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. ", which prove he didn't check his accusation; when it's the phase he's apparently "going through filters" and shit. 2 - he's relying on others to make this accusation. In his post he mentionned you: And despite accusing me, he didn't vote before TS did: 3 - he said he was going through filters; he had only "null or town reads" before; and after doing it he has only 1 easy scumread and gtfo of the thread. I feel like he is overexerting the point with the going thorough filters. I mean I've gone through the filters and miss crap too. in fact Giyga Khan Brought this up: On December 16 2015 02:41 GiygaS wrote: Why do people think my read on rels was the only thing I got out of the filter/thread readover? If you look up you'll see I also had scum reads on tt and shape. Like all these people saying I didn't fulfill promises or came out of reading filters and thread again with 1 awful scum read are just wrong. Clearly I made a mistake reading LS's filter going over it again (I honestly don't know where), so going to unvote rels and put my vote back on tt. ##unvote ##vote tictock Rels second reason for voting GiygaS Khan had no real reason. His second reason look like he was trying to hint to a scum team bewteen you and GiygaS Khan? He doesn't respond to your question. He only mentions it to help his case. He lies about GiygaS khan about his only "null" reads from filters. As he Obliviously posted that scum read on me and TT. He seems to hide the facts. Seems scummy. Hell, Koshi even backed him up and Rels went crazy with it. On December 15 2015 18:43 Rels wrote: p: Yes ofc Damdred could be scum. But I don't think they're both scum with Damdred defending LS like that; and I don't town!Damdred misreads LS. Goes back to LS. Involves Damdred. Cannot understand the boldded part. On December 15 2015 18:54 Rels wrote: LOL you motherfucker you didn't even read the filters I linked. Here are the first page of LS in dark tournament: + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2015 12:18 LightningStrike wrote: Hi guys I had just got home and read and Tfrel tried to snipe me when I was gone even though in the pregame I EVEN TOLD EVERYONE I WAS GOING TO BE GONE TILL NOW -_- Here the quote for proof: Anyways Tfrel seems like a scumlean for now for trying to snipe me and tried to case Damdred when Damdred caught tfrel on the fact that I told everyone I wasn't going to be here till now. Palmar seems town for now he actually being serious although I don't think Shining is really scum yet but he fooled me till later in my last game when he was scum. I also liking Damdred this game for his responses and actually trying to hunt scum. I need more time on MD because his play style is so weird my experience playing with him and hosting/cohosting games involving him. DYH seems townlean he actually tried to comment on stuff that is relevant to the game. @kush: If you are here what you think of Shining vs Palmar? @Palmar: Okay if Shining is town then who is mafia and why? Also some Christmas pictures for Palmar because I know he's a huge sucker for Christmas: ![[image loading]](http://soclday.com/p/2015/10/images-of-christmas-xaqo9t5w.jpg) On December 01 2015 12:20 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways Boxer don't claim unless you getting lynched please it's a dumb idea to claim blue unless you getting lynched. On December 01 2015 12:46 LightningStrike wrote: Shining since you had cooled off what you got out of your fight with Palmar? On December 01 2015 12:52 LightningStrike wrote: I was just trying to see if your thoughts had changed since you cooled off. Anyways I think Palmar is town he did this very similarly how he did when I first played with him in Metal Mini when I was town vs his town. Damdred is town like I said earlier I liked his responses since it's a Damdred thought. James is null atm because he went straight to bed afterwards. Also Hi Damdred how are you? On December 01 2015 12:53 LightningStrike wrote: rolf you kinda ninja'd me there Shining. Fair enough. On December 01 2015 12:53 LightningStrike wrote: I think that post was towards me not you lol..... On December 01 2015 12:54 LightningStrike wrote: He prob asleep atm MD so except him to be around tomorrow morning lol. On December 01 2015 12:55 LightningStrike wrote: I was referring to original post you quoted lol. On December 01 2015 13:14 LightningStrike wrote: Well ops I thought it was towards me because I had asked you a question like a few posts before lol. On December 01 2015 13:37 LightningStrike wrote: Well going to bed now as my mom is taking me to school tomorrow morning but I will be on my laptop waiting for class and bring my charger incase battery runs low but when I wake up tomorrow morning I will try and catch up! On December 01 2015 20:02 LightningStrike wrote: Hi I just woke up and I am feeling tired still because I obviously only got like 7 hours of sleep so if I sound tired based on my posts that's why but some people had some comments/questions towards me: He wasn't really afraid to post his thoughts on the stuff when he was around and I know it's limited content but still when he was around he did try to be involved a little bit. I might be a huge sucker for people. I had posted paragraphs as town before when I wasn't there at the start of the day for a entry post(see slytherin) but about attacking Trfel: it seemed like he wants to try and find a reason to scum read me even though I had said in the pregame that I wouldn't be around till like 4 hours after start of the game. Just a little bit frustrated from that and I glad Damdred called him out on it too. On December 02 2015 01:11 LightningStrike wrote: Just got to college campus and took care of stuff and about Palmar: It's meta read that I have on him because he did similar stuff to me in Metal Mini which you observed and I do find Shining town for now although he did show huge emotions as scum last game but I giving him a benefit of a doubt. Mainly Shining's content seems better ths game than his last game when he was scum vs me. On December 02 2015 01:15 LightningStrike wrote: Hi can you comment on anything please? On December 02 2015 01:28 LightningStrike wrote: I told you earlier that I think Tfrel is scum mainly his stuff about me..... Number of game-related posts: 8/14 Here are all the posts of LS this game until I asked him for a list post: + Show Spoiler + On December 14 2015 08:01 LightningStrike wrote: Hey guys! Let's lynch some scum and here how we should do it: Step 1: Find the scum through interactions Step 2: Lynch the scum Step 3: ????? Step 4: Profit. Any questions or comments? On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Miller's aren't aware......... Are you mafia? On December 14 2015 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Really? I only been back recently and not really obsed the games so(shrugs) On December 14 2015 08:15 LightningStrike wrote: BTW the step thing is part of a meme if you guys don't know On December 14 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote: Sukrit is a smurf obviously lol.... On December 14 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote: Good. Now can you tell me who else is mafia with you? On December 14 2015 08:38 LightningStrike wrote: Damdred is pulling a Palmar on me I had to have a little fun with Damdred there On December 14 2015 08:40 LightningStrike wrote: Damn you sold me out We have to have Shape take all the town cred as possible :oOn December 14 2015 08:44 LightningStrike wrote: Kosh is so anti fun On December 14 2015 11:20 LightningStrike wrote: You sound like JAT or HF that is pissed lol. On December 14 2015 11:30 LightningStrike wrote: Ya it's a little to early to talk about teams when no one flipped imo. On December 14 2015 11:53 LightningStrike wrote: Were you in that game in any type of form? That game was kinda funny. 10/10 would tell people to shoot JAT again On December 14 2015 11:56 LightningStrike wrote: Do you know who the town puppy was? On December 14 2015 12:00 LightningStrike wrote: Hi bats. Palmar in XXX said someone wasn't in his naughty list and I asked him if he claimed scum and he said Whoops lol. On December 14 2015 12:18 LightningStrike wrote: Ops for a second there when I quoting I thought you were bats Shape lol. Anyways Sukrit what you mean Mafia Claim^? On December 14 2015 12:24 LightningStrike wrote: Damn bro to easy man. + Show Spoiler + I know you joking Do you like Christmas? On December 14 2015 12:26 LightningStrike wrote: Okay you're not Palmar lol.(Had to look what Kwanza is because I never heard of it before) On December 14 2015 12:27 LightningStrike wrote: No need to man. I will just get Marv to get him lol. On December 14 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote: I never heard of it honestly lol. Prob because my friends and family never did Kwanza at least as far as I know. On December 14 2015 12:35 LightningStrike wrote: But his liver might not handle it :o + Show Spoiler + I honestly don't know how much he drinks lol. On December 14 2015 22:48 LightningStrike wrote: You were mafia there and shot by Breshke the hero Vig Number of game-related posts: 2/22 Again, Has drop case on GiygaS Khan and picked back up LS's. Why? Maybe because Ls was more relvent at the time? Could be. Or could be he is deciding bewteen them. But, LS and Rel both was in the same game. Both last long. Rel died first. And he only has a few more game-related posts Then that of LS. I'm sorry what? how the hell are you going to do that if your telling everyone because of that game you were in your were busy. But obliviously LS wasn't? On December 15 2015 18:59 Rels wrote: Damdred has a god read on LS from my experience. Do you think they're scum together ? Or do you think Damdred doesn't have a god read ? Please say it 'cause I don't understand you there. 1 - Yep I think LS is town from this caps lock. Last game I checked his meta and he NEVER used caps lock as scum when pressured. Feel free to point me where I'm wrong. 2 - Yep, I'm accusing whatever his name is partly for doing nothing except calling 1 mafia and fuck off, while I did that too. But I didn't pretend to reread the game then to read filters to make one wrong and weak case on a lurker. Wait Damdred has a god read on LS. And they could be Scum. Does this contradict with his early post about how they CAN'T be mafia. I admit, I have Contradicted more then anyone on this game and am town. But just because someone is good at reading someone and they don't magically have a read this game doesn't mean anything. Is it a bit weird? maybe. Is it enough for a scum team reason? No. Again, going after Damred because he saw he was under Scurtiy for not having a read on LS. (maybe he brought it up, I too lazy to look up another filter. 20 tabs open lol) And now is calling LS town because everyone is moving on. I kinda of seeing your point here TS On December 15 2015 19:07 Rels wrote: Well you should appreciate the pressure back when all he had to show for rereading the game and filters was one case that was wrong. Or you're scum with him. Koshi makes a good point. Jumps back on GiygaS Khan. Tells Koshi he show be "happy" of his pressure vote on Khan. And that only one case is wrong. I will admit, Rel is fighting Koshi. But it seems more of a cat clawing at a screen then a OMGUS fight. Recap: Rels has 3 Lynch targets: GiygaS Khan, LS, Damred. Picked fights with Koshi and a bit with You On December 15 2015 19:14 Rels wrote: TT is a good lynch too. He could be scum. He's not invested in finding scums, contrary to what I'm used from him. He repeats multiple times he doesn't have much time to play. This: is a bad reasonning to townread Damdred. This: as pointed to ritoky, is a weird mix of serious + joke in the same sentence. Joke is useless. Too many people jump on that for Rel's to randomly pull it out. Was 5 hours roughly after the TT wagon votes started. Feels like he look at votes/read from the page he left off. Saw TT getting lynch, posted this to fit in. On December 16 2015 04:18 Shapelog wrote: Then lets fix this. We have a TT which is different from Haunted mafia. Onegu had a post about TT awhile ago. Koshi asked GB his ideas about TT. He seems different from it too IMO. I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't ##Vote Ticktock And who knows Koshi. With step-up being random, someone might be Sugar fairy and heal. This is when we/i started the voting 5 hours earlier On December 16 2015 05:20 Rels wrote: I think Damdred is scum. Damdred is not invested in the game, which is already a big indicator. Damdred usually plays D1 by finding townreads, and lynching the one not in his town list. Here I have the distinct impression he tried to replicate that but failed. He has a couple of easy townreads that are not mostly based on nothing: His only posts that are a little big are about how to read Koshi, which is something completely unrelated to scumhunting: Finally, there is no list post that Damdred uses for finding scums by POE with his townreads, especially on D1. For comparaison, here are the kind of posts I expected from Damdred (from Really Small Mafia II and Dark Tournament Mafia in which he flipped town). Really Small Mafia II, 12 hours into D1: Dark Tournament, 25 hours into D1: I think Damdred is scum. ##Unvote ##Vote Damdred Back again to fucking Damdred. God this guy is giving me a headache. Again, popular time for a person about how they might not be town. A fucking Rels post pops up. This guys switches wifes faster then Donald Trump. He scuming Damred, for the same reason everyone else is, because he isn't doing a town read. I wonder what if this guy has OCD and if something is out of place, he flips out this bad as people not fitting their "meta". Thats why its call a "meta" gives you a ROUGH estimate of what they might do. On December 16 2015 05:24 Rels wrote: I also heavily dislike tubesock. Almost only questions and no direction in his filter. His only scumread is I, and it's a non-assumed vote: Just sheeping giygas and this little sentence: "Plus, maybe he will spew townbows." I don't like that. On you now because of lack of content and sheeping. I don't mind this though, felt the same tbh. On December 16 2015 05:26 Rels wrote: Reading the thread I had these as town Town LS Shape sukrit Maybe town Koshi ritoky I would lynch TT Damdred or TS right now. giygas wasn't as bad as I thought. The others I have no idea atm. OMG THIS GUY! I FEEL LIKE GIYGAS KHAN AS HE READ THROUGH MY FILTER OMG! I mean the guy's number 1 scum pick at the begaining and later onto the day Is now NUMBER ONE in Town list! One contradiction. And the reason why is because of a CAP LOCKS SENTENCE? NO READ FROM DAMRED? Then goes on how he would lynch ALL THE PEOPLE TOWN WAS TALKING ABOUT LYNCHING! AND MEATIONS GIYGAS KHAN BECAUSE TT WAS LYNCHING HIM!!! Keep it together Shape.... Keep it together. Alright. Agrees with me about Damreds not posting Bomb. blah blah blah Koshi blah blah blah NEXT POST: On December 16 2015 05:38 Rels wrote: Look at his half assed townreads he's posting, compared for example to what he usually does to create discussion. This game: Super Mini Mafia II: Damred again (was popular vote/topic to discus back then). Again Koshi says something about Damred Scum game, Rels Counters with No No No this is his meta. Based off of half ass town reads. Again going with the flow of who is easier to lynch. On December 16 2015 06:40 Rels wrote: OK I don't want to lynch TT. Damdred and kush are my options. Damred and Kush. Kush because he moved up and Damred because he invested in him. On December 16 2015 07:05 Rels wrote: 1 - did I nitpick and was paranoid of you last game, when you were *obvious town* ? No. 2 - I'm not buddying anyone. 3 - what bullshit reasons are you talking about ? This was when Damred called Rels scum and Rels said OMGUS case, explain. Explains, shots it down with cause what? meta! #1 That last game, STOP TALKING ABOUT LAST GAME! Dear lord. 2 is true. 3, We know what "BS Reasons" when we look at Rels filter. The this guy is popular topic that town is unsure about. let me say i hate him and vote him. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:18 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote: Hrm I'll have to look st context tommorow then see what happened. I can't lead a lynch this far behind in an hour. So I see people want me, GB or kush correct[/QUOTE] 1 - can you do a list post with you reads please ? 2 - you shouldn't need the context to defend yourself from my case. So please do it. 3 - you said I had bullshit reasons here: [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:05 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote: He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*. he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance. ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush. idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.[/QUOTE] please quote and explain.[/QUOTE] Uber Defensive here against Damred. too much in my opinion to be town. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 18:28 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote: Oooo damdred gets all the balme come at me I'll fucking eat you up and bm you until day phase where hopefully a big shoots me. come fucking at me[/QUOTE] rsoultin read says that it cannot be scum Damdred. So Damdred, stop being obnoxious and start playing the game pretty please.[/QUOTE] Like wtf. Push this guy for so far and then some "rsoultin" read says he can't be scum? da fuck is going on anymore. [QUOTE]On December 17 2015 00:09 Rels wrote: This TS case on me means he's probably scum. He listed a bunch of reasons that don't make me scum; two of which are so obviously NAI that if he had thought about them for 10 seconds he wouldn't have writtent them; and the first reason doesn't make sense. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does.[/QUOTE] You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game. So I have two problems with town!you believing the above: - Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post - Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games.[/QUOTE] Are you insinuating I'm scum with Onegu ? 'cause that is the only way I could had "cheated" on that; if I was scum and he was town, I wouldn't have an easier way to find the info than if I was town. If the answer is YES; it's inconsistent with your Onegu townread, so I won't consider it. If the answer is NO; as proved above, this is not alignement indicative. So you wrote something that look good but has no impact of my alignement in a series a reason as to why I am scum. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one).[/QUOTE] What are you talking about, and why is this not in the LS explanation ? [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 23:06 RtaniSoul wrote: After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.[/QUOTE] 1 - even if it was true, so ? 2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately.[/QUOTE] I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read. [/QUOTE] If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.[/QUOTE] Yep. I can be mafia and I can not be. So that is another NAI point in your case, that you say is NAI.[/QUOTE] Holy mother of shit. Did he just use the "its not always the case, because it meta" excuse....... Fuck Me for even deciding to go through this Hell. You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game. So I have two problems with town!you believing the above: - Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post - Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine Do not care about underline. I can understand TS over Rel because Rel was Voting/pressuring LS at the time, when it was popular. Why not stay more on the pressure, and make him sweat pass cap lock? Is it because he meet his Meta? Idc, TS is more believable here. Onegu/Surkit reaction was ok. I mean Onegu outted himself and was kinda of a suspect anyways because of mansion. Lurker reasoning: 1 - even if it was true, so ? So kush was a lurker who you voted for..... And Giyga Khan and TS was attack when popular. 2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD. So was everyone else. Like everyone. I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW. Opportunistic on damred.......Are you kidding me....... I do not even think i need explain how he has been opportunistic all game. If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either. Meh i guess so. But if that is the case, does that make me and the way i vote NAI, although it is talked about. Not sure about if he knew GB would flip town, so i am not sure about this point. [QUOTE]On December 17 2015 06:13 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On December 17 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote: Let's be honest here I am neither invested currently in the game and I'm not as interested in becoming so after the couple of days I've had. However I will put some form of concerted effort forward to uphold my reputation. And to the person who say damdred is always scum if he's alive after d4 I hate to tell you this I don't have a very good record of being shot for some reason. Also calling my try to shenanigan away from the current lymch brain dead is incorrect. I have been in plenty of moves that take less time than 4 minutes sometimes 50 seconds is all you need especially with a full game. However rels what question am I missing or have missed? Vivax is obvious scum at this point or at least should be ashwd of himaelf if town.[/QUOTE] Can you go back to your post saying I had bullshit reasons and point out what are they ?[/QUOTE] We know about the BS reasons. No fucking need to beat a dead horse again. Blah blah blah [QUOTE]On December 17 2015 06:19 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On December 17 2015 05:07 Tubesock wrote: [QUOTE]On December 17 2015 00:09 Rels wrote: This TS case on me means he's probably scum. He listed a bunch of reasons that don't make me scum; two of which are so obviously NAI that if he had thought about them for 10 seconds he wouldn't have writtent them; and the first reason doesn't make sense. + Show Spoiler + On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does. You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game. So I have two problems with town!you believing the above: - Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post - Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games.[/QUOTE] Are you insinuating I'm scum with Onegu ? 'cause that is the only way I could had "cheated" on that; if I was scum and he was town, I wouldn't have an easier way to find the info than if I was town. If the answer is YES; it's inconsistent with your Onegu townread, so I won't consider it. If the answer is NO; as proved above, this is not alignement indicative. So you wrote something that look good but has no impact of my alignement in a series a reason as to why I am scum. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one).[/QUOTE] What are you talking about, and why is this not in the LS explanation ? [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 23:06 RtaniSoul wrote: After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.[/QUOTE] 1 - even if it was true, so ? 2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately.[/QUOTE] I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read. [/QUOTE] If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either. [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.[/QUOTE] Yep. I can be mafia and I can not be. So that is another NAI point in your case, that you say is NAI.[/QUOTE] The caps lock reasons are pure teasing you. What you are saying is that I am also solely TRing Koshi because he had 1 post near EOD that was all caps lock. That's silly. I am most definitely NOT TRing LS because he had half a post that was caps. But I did want to check it. First I saw he didn't use it as scum but then I wondered if he did as town. So, I checked that too. I still think it's a silly reason so I made fun of you for it. For the record I TR LS for his comfortable tone and he has a bigger filter than I think mafiaLS would. I may have stated before but for LS I don't pay too much attention until D2.5/3 because then he is OBVIOUS. His caps lock statement was NAI. Even though he hasn't done it in his 4 scum games, I think he's entirely capable of it. So it's NAI, but apparently for you it overcomes a SHOCKING difference. The time it took me to do the above made me think how long it would have taken me to find out Sukrit's identity. I'm more curious to hear how you did it. It would take me days so there must be a trick. But the point is you spent time on smurf hunting rather than solving the game while you are not being active. When I have lots of time to solve the game then smurf hunting is fine, but you haven't been that active so you are wasting that limited resource on smurf hunting? Really? At least it wasn't blue hunting so there's that but still. yeah, you were OK with lynching TT. TT who had heat on him from several of the town leaders. Way to stick your neck out and make a bold read. I don't think townRels backs down from any fight. I think mafiaRels may or may not back down. Your targets were LS, GiygaS, me, TicTock, and lackluster Damdred. Damdred is the only one in that list that wouldn't qualify as an easy target and that's purely based on reputation. Then you vote completely null Kush. you didn't want to put in the work for getting one of your targets lynched. You took the easy way. I think townRels would have done more. I don't think you cared about the lynch. I'll concede it's possible confirmation bias but the tone I read in your 3-4 posts "hey guys GB might be bad lynch" is just acting. I don't think you cared at all. Now the important information we need to use this indifference is both GB's and Kush's alignment. If Kush is mafia then your indifference makes you town as mafiaRels would care and probably wouldn't be voting teammate Kush. BUT if Kush is town then indifference could be either and with everything else I think this piece sums you mafia. But we dont' know Kush's alignment yet. [/QUOTE] I can't believe you're accusing me of being "indifferent" to the lynch when I tried to get Damdred lynched, then when it wasn't done, gave my opinion on my preferred lynch with reasonning. Especially since you weren't even present to discuss anything; and even more especially since in the ONLY game we've played together, I was even more unsure about the lynch that was between you Chez and ruxxar. So bro, if kush is not scum, you are the one that (1) didn't care about the lynch between two townies, to the point of not being there and (2) already finding suspects based on it. About my magic find, it took me 20 seconds: [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Sukrit&gb=date]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Sukrit&gb=date[/url] Voilà.[/QUOTE] Underline is a past game i do not care for. Indifferent is a lie through: [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:34 Rels wrote: OK I read GB's filter and I understand the votes on him. I don't want to lynch him though 'cause the way he posts reads seems carefree about the consequences, which is not what I expect from an experienced scum, but more from a "I don't care" townie.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:40 Rels wrote: OK I don't want to lynch TT. Damdred and kush are my options.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:48 Rels wrote: Whatever OK to lynch kush. I don't think GB is likely to flip scum. ##Unvote ##Vote kushm4sta[/QUOTE] Indifferent my ass. I would explain why but I am so fucking sick from reading this train of webs that i can. Then Fin After this, I almost want to vote Rels. Like 98% of me wants to just fucking type this. BUT, i going to do what i said i would do and compare this to his Dark tourament filter. I would HARD compare it like "This is what Rels does" more like just compare and see if he is always so opportunistic Rels new nickname is Rick, Do not ask why..... [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 05:32 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On December 16 2015 05:31 Koshi wrote: Ok. Rels is officially not mafia at all. Never ever.[/QUOTE] I feel officially buddied.[/QUOTE] HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is where damred got his buddy post | ||
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lol what is with you people and caps lock. Did i just brake a religious thing lol. Anyways update on my post malfunction. Their are [/QUOTE] missing because i surpassed a Limit i think. It was booted out of the server when the request was made. Note i am not a IT guy or anything of that Nature, but that's the Problem. Also, when i put [/QUOTE] to fix it. It hides my comments made about it. Even if i Break up the text the text, the Server seems to not process my request. I mess around with it and try to get it to take it. I can get peices of it quoted, but not all of it. That Post was/is the Literately meaning of HELL, and i got to hopefully read a better town one from DT. Yay........ | ||
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On December 17 2015 12:42 LightningStrike wrote: Try to make it into 2-3 separate posts? Doing this. A matter of breaking it and Manually Quoting it. | ||
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On December 17 2015 12:54 Tubesock wrote: Formatting is a real bitch especially with long ones. I constantly use Preview anytime I have more than 1 quote. I don't think it's worth spending half a page of filter of your 5 pages to fix though. If people really want to know they'll wade through. Added bonus, those who read it actually care so it's more towny. (now I said it it's wifom but whatever) I do usally too, But after Two fucking hours I didn't care. I fixed the messed up bit, idk what your getting at about who can read it, because it is my own post and where it is messed up i can't read it. Also Spoilers are useful in this Situation. A page cut into a Line. DO not think Sky will get mad with me over this. + Show Spoiler + Even if i might of did it with my posts before | ||
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On December 17 2015 13:06 Tubesock wrote: Well the stuff that were not your words were either mine or rels, so I recognized who was talking. Eh i leave it as it is then. However, if people start crying over it i just post the fix. I got it all worked out know. | ||
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On December 17 2015 12:41 Tictock wrote: I'm so fucking glad I gave you more posts, lmao. And you should totally do this Trying to do the whole gang. We got Onegu as Surgento, based off the cheese. Rels as Rick from rick and morty. Still trying to come up with more ideas. | ||
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On December 17 2015 13:24 Tictock wrote: Holy shit that WoT Shape.... I tried to read it but I've worked a split shift at one job today (opened at 4am, then was back from 5-8pm) and worked at my 2nd job in between my brain is fried. I'll save it for tomorrow and try to make sense of the broken quotes. I'll give EoD another read tomorrow and then take a look at all these cases about Rels and from Rels. Thankfully I have some days off coming up so I'll have plenty of time this phase. TS wanted me too. And i picture this being a problum so read until its broken then go to this: Here is the fixed post. Dumb formating. Added a bit before it got screwed up.+ Show Spoiler + Damred again (was popular vote/topic to discus back then). Again Koshi says something about Damred Scum game, Rels Counters with No No No this is his meta. Based off of half ass town reads. Again going with the flow of who is easier to lynch. On December 16 2015 06:40 Rels wrote: OK I don't want to lynch TT. Damdred and kush are my options. Damred and Kush. Kush because he moved up and Damred because he invested in him. On December 16 2015 07:05 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + 1 - did I nitpick and was paranoid of you last game, when you were *obvious town* ? No. 2 - I'm not buddying anyone. 3 - what bullshit reasons are you talking about ? This was when Damred called Rels scum and Rels said OMGUS case, explain. Explains, shots it down with cause what? meta! #1 That last game, STOP TALKING ABOUT LAST GAME! Dear lord. 2 is true. 3, We know what "BS Reasons" when we look at Rels filter. The this guy is popular topic that town is unsure about. let me say i hate him and vote him. On December 16 2015 07:18 Rels wrote: 1 - can you do a list post with you reads please ? 2 - you shouldn't need the context to defend yourself from my case. So please do it. 3 - you said I had bullshit reasons here: Uber Defensive here against Damred. too much in my opinion to be town. On December 16 2015 18:28 Rels wrote: rsoultin read says that it cannot be scum Damdred. So Damdred, stop being obnoxious and start playing the game pretty please. Like wtf. Push this guy for so far and then some "rsoultin" read says he can't be scum? da fuck is going on anymore. On December 17 2015 00:09 Rels wrote: This TS case on me means he's probably scum. He listed a bunch of reasons that don't make me scum; two of which are so obviously NAI that if he had thought about them for 10 seconds he wouldn't have writtent them; and the first reason doesn't make sense. You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game. So I have two problems with town!you believing the above: - Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post - Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine Are you insinuating I'm scum with Onegu ? 'cause that is the only way I could had "cheated" on that; if I was scum and he was town, I wouldn't have an easier way to find the info than if I was town. If the answer is YES; it's inconsistent with your Onegu townread, so I won't consider it. If the answer is NO; as proved above, this is not alignement indicative. So you wrote something that look good but has no impact of my alignement in a series a reason as to why I am scum. What are you talking about, and why is this not in the LS explanation ? 1 - even if it was true, so ? 2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD. I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW. If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either. Yep. I can be mafia and I can not be. So that is another NAI point in your case, that you say is NAI. Holy mother of shit. Did he just use the "its not always the case, because it meta" excuse....... Fuck Me for even deciding to go through this Hell. You semi townread LS for the exact reason I do. But for some reason it makes me scum because "town Rels doesn't back off fights". Well, I don't often back down fights as either alignements, as you should know since apparently you read one of my scum game. So I have two problems with town!you believing the above: - Scumreading me for townreading LS based on a caps post; but at the same time half townreading LS for said post - Saying me backing off fights is my scum meta when you say you've read a scum game of mine Do not care about underline. I can understand TS over Rel because Rel was Voting/pressuring LS at the time, when it was popular. Why not stay more on the pressure, and make him sweat pass cap lock? Is it because he meet his Meta? Idc, TS is more believable here. Onegu/Surkit reaction was ok. I mean Onegu outted himself and was kinda of a suspect anyways because of mansion. Lurker reasoning: 1 - even if it was true, so ? So kush was a lurker who you voted for..... And Giyga Khan and TS was attack when popular. 2 - you coincidentally forgets that I was OK lynching TT until he looked better at EOD. So was everyone else. Like everyone. I've said what I thought. You agree with the facts as seen by your part on Damdred, you kinda disagree with the conclusion. I don't see how I can be opportunistic when you don't find Damdred town; please show me where I'm opportunistic BTW. Opportunistic on damred.......Are you kidding me....... I do not even think i need explain how he has been opportunistic all game. If both GB and kush are town, scum are more likely to not care about the lynch. Me pushing more for kush doesn't make me town, but it clearly doesn't make me scum either. Meh i guess so. But if that is the case, does that make me and the way i vote NAI, although it is talked about. Not sure about if he knew GB would flip town, so i am not sure about this point. On December 17 2015 06:13 Rels wrote: Can you go back to your post saying I had bullshit reasons and point out what are they ? We know about the BS reasons. No fucking need to beat a dead horse again. Blah blah blah On December 17 2015 06:19 Rels wrote: I can't believe you're accusing me of being "indifferent" to the lynch when I tried to get Damdred lynched, then when it wasn't done, gave my opinion on my preferred lynch with reasonning. Especially since you weren't even present to discuss anything; and even more especially since in the ONLY game we've played together, I was even more unsure about the lynch that was between you Chez and ruxxar. So bro, if kush is not scum, you are the one that (1) didn't care about the lynch between two townies, to the point of not being there and (2) already finding suspects based on it. About my magic find, it took me 20 seconds: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Sukrit&gb=date Voilà. Underline is a past game i do not care for. Indifferent is a lie through: On December 16 2015 06:34 Rels wrote: OK I read GB's filter and I understand the votes on him. I don't want to lynch him though 'cause the way he posts reads seems carefree about the consequences, which is not what I expect from an experienced scum, but more from a "I don't care" townie. On December 16 2015 06:40 Rels wrote: OK I don't want to lynch TT. Damdred and kush are my options. On December 16 2015 06:48 Rels wrote: Whatever OK to lynch kush. I don't think GB is likely to flip scum. ##Unvote ##Vote kushm4sta Indifferent my ass. I would explain why but I am so fucking sick from reading this train of webs that i can. Then Fin After this, I almost want to vote Rels. Like 98% of me wants to just fucking type this. BUT, i going to do what i said i would do and compare this to his Dark tourament filter. I would HARD compare it like "This is what Rels does" more like just compare and see if he is always so opportunistic Rels new nickname is Rick, Do not ask why..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is where damred got his buddy post | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote: Reasoning behind scum team+ Show Spoiler + Damdred his trow away vote should make him mafia btw. Don't be stupid. Lynch him if he is alive too long. Damdred is not the player that lives long. He is also not the player who does dumb shitty things like EoD1 when he is town and trying to solve the game. You have to imagine what town damdred was thinking there? Even if hr thinks both wagons are town, why would a town Damdred do that 4 minutes before lynch? He would have done shit earlier. Or he would have come to terms with this lynch earlier, but this is not town Damdred, and he didn't do what all we did. He did something completely different because he isn't town. All town did X, Damdred did Y. If I die. The suspicious people are Onegu, Rels, kush and Damdred. I don' t think it is useful for anybody else to kill me. Kush being saved like this is suspicious. Onegu his above stupid case on me was really bad, please believe me on that, it was fucking horrible. Damdred I already covered in paragraph 1. Rels is too much on and off, I think he is mafia just trowing in some good content every 20 hours, but if he were town he would be townie more frequently. Please reread EoD1, I think a lot of people were pretty townie there. I am not sure about TT, but would a mafia really contribute that much EoD1? Was he desperate mafia or just really trying his best as a townie? I think he is town but he also saved Kush. But I think Damdred looks way worse for it, and not on face value, mafia like, he looks worse for it. I really think I could vote Damdred away just for that vote. I would focus first on these people: Rels/Onegu/Damdred/Kush I also feel these names have no synergy between them at all. Making them pretty good mafia candidates. Rick and Damdred might not have synergy together if they are a scum team. Idk I overly tired (i was suppose to put this down at 9 Pm, At is 12 Pm.....) barin fried, so i'm going to bed. | ||
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On December 17 2015 13:44 Tictock wrote: WoT = Wall o' Text I haven't seen anyone post something that huge in a long time. Though if you get time (and you seem to have a bit on your hands) you should check my mega posts from my... 2nd? I think? Newbie game here. I tunneled the shit out of a town!Plotspot who managed to RB the mafia kill target 3/4 nights and I was convinced was fakeclaiming ( I was Masons with Breske that game). I did 3 mega posts that I prob spent like 3-4 hours putting together showing how my tinfoil fit perfectly. I was dead wrong >.< Sorry I'm not posting anything helpful, just responding to stuff. I'm gunna call it a night. I feel like we are going to become good friends.......... | ||
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On December 17 2015 18:01 Rels wrote: Wow this is a big post on me. You have a lot of narratives and wrong things in your post Shape. Narratives don't make someone scum, and with them you see things wrong. Like for example this post: What? Town reading LS at this point? Wtf does that have to do with the point you consetlly go after easy targets if everyone is scrutinying them. In the said Quote, Koshius talks about the filter difference and that he didn't see anything after he read. Then you state "Lol, Motherfucker (to koshius) you didn't read them and post a post about how many game related posts LS has made. If your town reading LS at this point wouldn't you stop trying to paint him in a picture he is posting less useful posts? Why do you even need to mention the filter again? Also why only reply to the part were LS comes in? Why not GiygaS Khan (no Koshius i am not going to call him Gayis Khan) points? Who was again someone you consider to be lynch worthy. Heck most of the post was about GiygaS Khan. You do not say/answer Koshius question about LS CAPS LOCK SENTENCE (AGAIN WHAT IS WITH YOUR PEOPLE AND CAPS LOCK?) And why suddenly your entire thought logic does a 180. On December 17 2015 18:01 Rels wrote: The only thing I'm saying here is that LS is town. That's all. If Damdred is scum, he wouldn't say his partner is town lik ethat; if Damdred is town, he has a god read on LS. Your post is mostly stuff like that, stuff getting either misread or misunderstood because you stack everything into a narrative that could make anyone scum. The only things there is against me is that I'm kinda indifferent and I'm not doing much. These are acceptable points. I am sorry "but you misread and i called LS town" defense is getting old. You moved to Damdred now, Your talking only about Damdred for the most part. And it is hard to believe this is only about Damdred, because you clearly said "DO YOU THINK THEY'RE SCUM TOGETHER?" Like if that is really from someone who really thinks LS is town and not because he just following the flow. And Again, In your response to this post, you fucking again forgot to even mention the main point of the case. THE FACT THAT YOU GO WITH THE FLOW OF TOWN AND TRY TO LYNCH WHO EVER THE TOWN THINKS IS SUS. AT THE POINT. It's like you trying to dodge it by trying to bring up something that just helps the case. Something that is easy to change to whatever you want it to. And then Fail Miserably. You use META to accuse people, BUT then say META CAN'T be use to accuse you. What are you rick? The meta God? No, no, I am not going to become Koshius during Haunted mansion. No........Must Not tunnel. I am still going to look at your DT filter and just get a feel of what you are like. And no, I ain't going to try to find your meta, it be more like when i say "I see a more content rich Kush-lush-fush in DT, then in Here btw" kinda of post. Great what a lovely way to start off your day. hey you know what kiddo, your name isn't rick anymore. Didn't like it. So your nickname now is Meta Stanly KubRels. Now post 126 more times. | ||
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On December 17 2015 21:34 kushm4sta wrote: Shape I'm going to need a tldr Look at the spoiler i give to TT, fixed the messed up QUOTE's. Picks up a bit before the post breaks. | ||
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On December 17 2015 23:49 Rels wrote: I have no idea what you are trying to say. What my last post? | ||
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I am saying it is weird that all your lynch targets were because you went the flow of D1. If damred was getting sus. You had a post. If someone voted TT, You follow suit later. Only time this doesn't happen is with GB. I feel like your dodging talking about this point by bringing up points about LS or crap to distract and draw out the conversation. Still tired from 6 hours of sleep. Eh i let the Koshius dog talk about it. Probulary going to digress from conversation today. Will be on through. | ||
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Rikoty (best father ever) pulled up LS case, U post your filter theory thingy. Say you left for the day after. Koshi asks Damdred if LS about the filter. Surgenuo outted. LS asks his reads about Damred. 1st meation of the bomb. On December 15 2015 11:46 LightningStrike wrote: I will still take them seriously silly And what Bomb you waiting for?So Surgenuo was the first to question Damred. On December 15 2015 15:12 Tubesock wrote: Help me get to your level. I don't think he went "against" Damdred. He says it's a bit far fetched and that he took a note of it being possible and moved on. I agree with Sukrit that both sides make setup mistakes. He then talked primarily about Koshi and Sukrit. Maybe I'm thinking that going against someone is more like how Sukrit is on Koshi or you are on TT? Even counting this as towny points, you can't say the rest of his posts are any good. Is this really the only thing you are looking at in evaluating Shapelog? More Disccusin, This was B/4 you called GiygaS Khan a lier. Then the lie can and you asked Rikoy father his opion about Damred and why he read him as town. On December 15 2015 18:42 ritoky wrote: because him saying shit like that to pocket LS for the entire game as mafia isn't outside of his wheel house. and from my experience only women on TL have the magical 100% LS read that you always trust. so unless damdred suddenly became a lesbian... On December 15 2015 18:43 Rels wrote: p: Yes ofc Damdred could be scum. But I don't think they're both scum with Damdred defending LS like that; and I don't town!Damdred misreads LS. And here is your 1st mentioning of Damdred. After the not delivering of the bomb. (Still waiting for this) But to be honest, no one really started question it Till before a bit before voting. I would drive through till then but i am lazy today. | ||
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On December 16 2015 04:41 Vivax wrote: I'm used to LS and Damdred trying to read each other at the start of a game, iirc. Why didn't it happen LS? You also seem pretty comfortable being on the sidelines. And Vobby even talked about. Like wow On December 16 2015 05:00 Rels wrote: yo I'm there, we shoudl consolidate. Why are people voting for people ? TT I know why and I agree. GB are the things on the others ? This was your last post before you bring up the case. Which followed the current trend of ideas. Next post was me subtracting my vote and then you Damred case. @Koshius, I notice you been tunneling this guy all game almost. feels like a past game...... Meh i do not care about past games. | ||
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On December 18 2015 00:55 Koshi wrote: I didn't tunnel Rels the entire game... He has been unimpressive the entire game (xcept 5 mins) and therfore has been on my radar for the entire game. True. I was mostly talking about random bringing up (which maybe could be done by mafia to cause Mislynch. Don't hate me) but your explanation makes sense as well. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Please, do not temp the Koshius roarsiurs. It is a dangerous creature Also TS told me to read your file so send all hate mail to him | ||
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On December 18 2015 01:09 Rels wrote: You seem to have time. Stop fucking joking all the time and start making cases with separations and explanation as to why this cannot come from town (or is unlikely) with big TLDR to understand what you mean, and soruces to check the stuff you say. The way you're playing is horrible. Why do you think i haven't voted for you yet? Because i am not sure? Because i am lazy? No, because i want to go to DT and read your filter (and Damred) and see if your just normally like this (again not your meta, what you do in general). Why do you think i am not with Koshius all the way? Hell, i called him on for the tunnelish behavior. Only reason why i even posted that tbh was because TS wanted me too. And it just ended up being big. Also I shall joke. There is a reason why. One, it keeps me from getting stess so i do not tunnel. And two because of a plan. Do not ask me about plan. | ||
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On December 18 2015 01:29 Rels wrote: I'm not your boss; if you need to express something, do it concisely. That's it. Sir Kubrels, You just gave me the most brilliant idea to search my history for the reply and fix it. Wonder what else i find it there. Anyways if i find it (which i should), i fix it. | ||
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On December 18 2015 01:42 Koshi wrote: You seriously still don't get it? X says rels is mafia. rels says x is mafia. Y says rels is mafia rels says Y is mafia Z says rels is mafia rels says Y is mafia Koshi said Damdred and Rels could be mafia. Shape says that Damdred said Rels is mafia adn therefore it is unlikely they are mafia together. Koshi says that he missed Damdred saying Rels is mafia. Because Koshi can't read filters at work, Koshi also expressed some genuine surprise that he on top of the acussation of Damdred to Rels, Koshi also must have must have missed Rels saying Damdred is mafia, because cases X,Y and Z. Now it appears that Shape was wrong about Damdred saying Rels is mafia. Which means that Koshi his genuine surprise about the lack of Rels calling Damdred being mafia in this thread was unwarranted. The first time I wrote the about post I used more letters. But I looked stuff up and added some names. No. we were talking about if he accused Damdred first. Not if Damdred said he was mafia On December 16 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote: I kinda think rels is scum actually. On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote: He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*. he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance. ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush. idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels. | ||
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On December 16 2015 05:20 Rels wrote: I think Damdred is scum. Damdred is not invested in the game, which is already a big indicator. Damdred usually plays D1 by finding townreads, and lynching the one not in his town list. Here I have the distinct impression he tried to replicate that but failed. He has a couple of easy townreads that are not mostly based on nothing: His only posts that are a little big are about how to read Koshi, which is something completely unrelated to scumhunting: Finally, there is no list post that Damdred uses for finding scums by POE with his townreads, especially on D1. For comparaison, here are the kind of posts I expected from Damdred (from Really Small Mafia II and Dark Tournament Mafia in which he flipped town). Really Small Mafia II, 12 hours into D1: Dark Tournament, 25 hours into D1: I think Damdred is scum. ##Unvote ##Vote Damdred I talked about in my big post how Kubrels responding blah blah. And how the points made up were either said and not address (buddying) or what reason ("BS reasoning") | ||
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On December 18 2015 01:51 Rels wrote: OK scum. How you could you miss me saying Damdred is mafia when you replied to it ? Still waiting for where Damdred scumreads me since apparently I "OMGUSed" him. This entire game has been contradictions. | ||
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On December 18 2015 02:39 kushm4sta wrote: Ok i see where you are coming from koshi. You think he used the caps as an excuse to back away from a shitty case he made. Maybe. Yeah and it is easy to hide it for him. Like as someone who as follow Meta like Kubrels so hard. It is easy for him to hide the Cap lock excuse as scum. I can see it in his scum range based off of what other people has said. | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:23 Vivax wrote: Does master Koshi already know who to vote tomorrow? On December 16 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote: Fyi I'll just follow Koshis vote from now on I still have work to do until midnight, sadly. On December 16 2015 04:20 Vivax wrote: I have no brain power for this game today,ill sheep Koshi On December 16 2015 04:41 Vivax wrote: I'm used to LS and Damdred trying to read each other at the start of a game, iirc. Why didn't it happen LS? You also seem pretty comfortable being on the sidelines. On December 16 2015 04:41 Vivax wrote: I'm used to LS and Damdred trying to read each other at the start of a game, iirc. Why didn't it happen LS? You also seem pretty comfortable being on the sidelines. Only the last two posts above had anything to do with anything going on with the game (unless you count sheeping.) One was a Plus one off of my early Surgeuno Read and the other was questioning Damdred and LS. Just a question, no responses back to damdred (if he did respond) He didn't post anything last time he came on. He just posted "who do i sheep" during EoD (did he even check?), no reasoning behind his sheeping like last time. Just sheeping. Seem like he had time to at least read koshius posts. And yes it is a lazy lynch, but it needs to happen sometime. The Koshius and Vobby love is strong. I Prob. beating a dead horse. But i just thought about this while reading Rels filter and he mention kush lack of content in Dark Tournament back in D1 then at D2 realized this is vobby. Felt like it needed to be said. Now to finish reading. | ||
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On December 18 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote: I been here but was extremely tired and starting to get sick with a flu or something :\ Anyways Rels vs Shape seems like Shape comes out top a little bit better. Koshi thinks that both Rels and Damdred could be a team which I highly doubt it honestly because it would be a weird bus. Sorry your getting sick LS, worse time of year for this crude. Hopefully you can dodge it. | ||
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Ah, well then i hope your family good luck and a quick recovering for the ones who are sick. | ||
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On December 18 2015 04:49 LightningStrike wrote: Ya hopefully I can get over it quickly. Anyways what your thoughts on Koshi's reaction to you vs Rels? I really think Koshius is doing what he did in Haunted mansion but i am not going there. I find it strange that he has 4 possible people his scum team. But is really only focusing on Kubrels atm (like me and TT did to Rikoy). And the only time he mentions Damdred is to put them together as a scum team, which doesn't make sense tbh. Maybe it is next level strats to Call your own mafia team mate out during lynching and make a scum case against them. Heck, Kush-lush-fush and Surengto makes more sense then Damdred for a scum team with Kubrels IMO. Surengto pushes Damred bomb to attention (maybe was even suppose to make the case) and Rels follow up. I do not think Rels knowing it was him early on is any indication that Rels is mafia. I thought it was a joke Rels made to irradiate Koshius. So out of the four, I personally think if i had to choose a 3 men team it would be Kubrels/Surengos/Kush-lush-fush. His Reaction and that whole train of hate kinda felt unnecessary. I do not like it when two players interact like that. I mean I did it too in my WoT a bit too, so I done it too. But the whole "Back.Off.Mother.Fucker." and crap i actually skipped. I didn't want to hear a pissing match, I want to see posts that help. Tried to approach Rels in a better manner(ish) after my WoT. Kinda cements Town for Koshius through (unless he is scum and realized his laziness was to much of a tell). P.S. at page 11 in his filter but i got interrupted and can only remember his concern over Skys non-flesh posts and stuff (I.E. day 1) | ||
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List of nicknames so people know who the hell i am talking about (which you should if you were reading ) (that was a joke, and a point. But that is because people have a job Vs me who is in a weird predicament. I got a job, just not really a job. More like have to do it because i can't get licenses without it test job.)Surgeno: Onegu, after the cheese comapny Vobby: Vivax because his unending will to serve his master Koshius In the quest to kill the evil scum Eaters! Stanley Kubrels: Rels, because of his OCD like meta ideas. Which is the same As Stanley Kubrick (made The shinning movie) Kush-Lush-Fush: Made it up because i am tired Koshius: Because He defends his slave elf friend Vobby. GiygaS Khan: Because someone used it and i Stole it Everyone else doesn't have a Nickname yet. Or i forgot about them. | ||
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On December 18 2015 06:11 Koshi wrote: I stick to my 4 names. Well since this is 13 people and the chances of there being 3 mafia is almost certain. If you had to choose one person to cut, who would it be Koshius? | ||
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On December 18 2015 06:51 Koshi wrote: I think the one who wasn't bolded would make pretty much sense no? Not if i was on a LSD trip, I've read that seeing Bold words while on a LSD trip causes the person to go into a mental state of guilt, shock, or in exterme cases, piss themselfs and scream "UNICORNS UNICORNS, YOUR ALL UNICORNS" . But since I am not on a LSD trip, then yes, it makes sense. | ||
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On December 18 2015 07:30 Koshi wrote: I am pretty sure Kush is mafia. It will just be Damdred/Rels/Kush Sooooo you did change or just now changed from your bolded team. To your bold team minus Surgeno for Kush? Or am i being crazy. I mean if you did it's fine. I wasn't sure with my earlier post if you still was with the same team. | ||
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On December 18 2015 07:41 Tictock wrote: What is the lowdown on the case against Rels? I saw Koshi and Shape saying his reads are too convienent. As in they either flow with thread sentiment or are OMGUS based. Am I missing something or is that it? Sorry I should just reread the cases myself, but Rels hasn't really pinged my radar too much besides some of the meta cases. I'll review the stuff between Rels and Tube as I dont have any read on Tube yet besides him seeming more egaged today. Pretty much tbh. And the fact that every time we mention it (at least for me, Koshius and Kubrels got into a pissing match, which brought forth a Host reminder about behavior.) When ever i mention it, he would bring up something about LS and how he was towning him and stuff. Like he was dodging. Got pissy with me after their match (which i am ok with, tbh my behavior while reading his case was a bit harsh. Comparing it to hell and all.) But best to read it yourself and the comments made about it. | ||
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[QUOTE]On December 18 2015 07:48 Shapelog wrote: The nicknames are getting a bit ridiculous and hard to follow though... [/QUOTE] I would be a dick and say "tough, reference the Nickname handbook" but I am not a dick (mostly). So i only going to use GiygaS Khan, Vobby and Koshius (best ones), and maybe (prob. not) Kush-Lush-Fush (sounds like a 90's rapper's name) basically 80% if the names. No love for Stanley Kubre... I mean Rels. And if the nick names is really bothering people i can stop it. | ||
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On December 18 2015 08:07 Tubesock wrote: I don't want to be a dick but....uh you want to revise this statement? He did Filter at at least once, not recently. But he did filter me to build that case against me at EoD. | ||
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On December 18 2015 08:14 GiygaS wrote: He also filtered me at the request of someone (came up town). Don't know what I think about the cases, had revised my rels read since he was more active. I'll go through his and TT's filter after my exam tomorrow (sorry for not being around a lot, expected this to start next week since it was supposed to be a bigger game initially). Also, where is Vivax? Thought he was gonna show up more after EoD yesterday. I understand the exams. In fact, i had my first pop quiz since college today. Except is wasn't a quiz more like a 106 questioned pop test. But i feel your pain. About Vobby. I metion him a few hours ago. I am concern something about him is going on. With lack of content posts (like the only two were a plus one and a question that he never followed up.) I do not know Why Master Koshius is deciding to protect him. Like i understand his point about "Do not lynch Vobby! Do not be lazy" but at some point, he needs to go. I even suspecting a Mason team bewteen Vobby and Koshius. Mainly because it would amazing because of the nicknames i give them. But also because it explains why Vobby is mindlessly sheeping Koshius. Like last time he posted asking who to Sheep, it was EoD. And said nothing other then "who do i sheep master?". Idk what is Vobby's deal. Also another reason why a Vobby and Koshius mason team could happen is because at the begaining of the day, koshius talks about blue roles. But this could come from town Koshius too. | ||
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On December 18 2015 08:25 GiygaS wrote: Real talk though is there something that gives push notifications on your phone whenever there's a new mafia post? I am a radical person who decided a smart phone is useless to me and stuck to the flip phone. I am sure you can go to the setting for the app and make it notifies you. Or download something Mal Ware free that you can set up Notifications on. Best thing i could tell you. | ||
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Even his reaction? Other said he doesn't get that mad when stuff like that happens, idk personally though. I would also ask Why, any particular reasoning? How did it make you feel blah blah blah. But you might cover all that in you conclusion once you dive. But then again TS or Koshius will prob. jump on you before then. So answer this part of the post at your own risk. | ||
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I am just asking you to look at it thorough my eyes. As someone who never has played with him, and when making the case, never looking at his past games till after my big post on him. | ||
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On December 18 2015 08:53 Damdred wrote: Let me make it clear why I think Rels is town from that exchange specifically. 1) Mafia as a whole have a great sense of wanting to keep good apperances in thread. This comes from muddying pushing somewhat easy lunches avoiding hot topics. Most of this comes from not wanting to disturb waters and draw attention. That being said, as scum Rels has a great tendency to play towards that regard. If you look at sotw 2 where Rels was scum you will see how Rels is involved in the thread but loves to get closer to highly regarded town players.he did this with rayn, he's clearly today at least not really interested in that. 2) As town Rels is sorta a rayn lite, he will bmp you again and again especially if he thinks you age wrong or scum reading him incorrectly. 3) he seems to not really being playing to survive but seems to be trying to find scum even if he does piggy back on others ideas. Which news flash isn't scum or town oriented. Plus sick move analysis seems to suggest Rels is town meh. 1. So your saying "typically, mafia is more quiet then town and meh pushs easy targets." Ok, that makes sense. But how does that factor in. Can't Anyone decide not to follow the mafia's golden rule? How does that really make sense? just because 75% of people follow a logic makes the 25% all the more deadly. Idk, maybe it is because when i gotten mafia/scum in RL mafia games i play exactly the same. And i know i said no meta. But if you want to look at this with meta in mind. Didn't 2 or 3 people say Rels plays almost Exactly the same with only minor differences? And doesn't the meta point you bring up contradicts the notation of if he is mafia, he would be quiet. How does one move up the totem pole for townies if he doesn't bring attention to himself? 2. Do not know who is Rayn lite, but anyways. This one is ok. But i see this one leaning more on NAI then mafia or town. Town would do it for what you said and mafia would make take little bites to try to get easy targets lynch 3. Contradicts with first statement about how mafia trying making the illusion about how they are contribution to the thread. by saying "he is finding scum reads" but saying "Mafia would make good appearances from time to time." heck his votes are pop in pop out kind of things. And piggying backing in not mafia right? Even if all his votes is almost at the perfect time when most of the town is sus. of the person he votes? Still waiting for bomb ........ | ||
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On December 18 2015 09:20 kushm4sta wrote: Why are you so sure koshi.... This is omgus but is koshi possible mafia? I really don't want to read his filter, I admit i am a bit of sus. of Koshius right now, heck everytime i put him at the top of the town list i wonder why. But then again i was sus. of him while following Haunted mansion (ik ik, contraction because i do not want past games to be mention). Also, why would he be this over tunneling if he was mafia? Cockyness? Why bring that attention to your self. If mafia, and Kubrels flip town like you know he will, You would have one big ass target on you. But honestly if Kubrels flips town, then the sus. will turn to me, Koshius and vobby, and TS for the most part. Lets do the math if we can lynch 3 mafia and afford another mislynch. + Show Spoiler + 8 are town, 3 are mafia Lynch: 7 are town 3 are mafia Night kill 6 town 3 mafia. lynch koshius prob. let say he flips mafia. 6 town 2 mafia night kill 5 town 2 mafia another mafia lynch: 5 town 1 mafia night kill 4 town 1 mafia. Then Last Lynch (which we have to find someone who could be third mafia since i am town. Vobby at this point) Either win or lose And we can afford it. So this flip/lynch can set up the game in my opinion. | ||
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On December 18 2015 09:30 Koshi wrote: No. Damdred saved Kush for no town reason. Every and any town would pick between Kush or GB. Damdred picked Vivax. There is no way. And then Kush and Damdred are inventing these ridiculous reasons why Rels is town.... It's insane. There is no way there is not 2 mafia in Kush/Damdred/Rels. THERE IS ALWAYS 2 mafia in there. ALWAYS. Then lets go after Kubrel since he is being defend and lets go from there. Do not be dumb here Koshius, Rels is the big target. Other are just who fits with him. | ||
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Rels fit into both reasons you think there is mafia action bewteen Damdred, Kush-lush-fush, and Kubrels. Therefore, his lynch is better in this case. | ||
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On December 18 2015 09:33 Damdred wrote: I'd be willing to lynch Damdred first I really don't care Tbh if Kubrels flips mafia. You would be last on the lynch list for me (been like that). Kush-Lush-Fush is more sus. in this than you. Heck, Surkitengo is more sus. in you in this case tbh. But i can also see why you can be mafia as well. Also Koshius, if everyone who defends Damdred is mafia, then i am mafia lol. | ||
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On December 18 2015 09:38 Koshi wrote: There is no fucking way Shape is mafia. There is no fucking way mafia!TT decided to be so active before the lynch and then made that ritoky is mafia case right before they shot ritoky. There is no way GaygiS Khan is mafia. There is a very very small way LS is mafia. But I seriously doubt it. I just haven't read his filter. But I don't believe it for a sec he is mafia. Tubesock doesn't feel mafia. I don't know what Vivax is doing. Pretty disgusted by it. So who the fuck is left? Nobody. Damdred is mafia. Taht is so fucking 10000000% certain. Onegu probably is. Taht case on me was too terrible. And like I said. He didn't do anything real during his "new meta playing the game thingie" Rels might be. Kush might be. I agree with these. Not so sure about GiygaS Khan, would flip it with LS. Tubesock, is really the main person who commented on this right? So it would be a dumb mafia move for him. and Vobby....well is taking his time. Honestly should be in mafia bin but hey, who cares. | ||
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@TS, I agree, i can see where Koshius is coming from, But vote is for Rels over Damdred. Heck, I love how Koshius said there is no edinvce, they just are. At least he isn't tunneling Kubrels...... Signs* And Surkitengo does need to be looked at. Been quiet compare to yesterday. (might be busy) I think Vobby is the worst prime lynch as well. Worst possible lynch now. Only in case something big happens like KubRels forgets to vote. @Koshius Dude, No where, in a million years, would i think Damdred over Rels is a good idea. Like what was the point if you push Kubrels and then decided to Push Damdred? I feel like your pushing them just because one is one. Put down the tinfoil (for now, wait to put it back on after lynch on Rel) Remember what you said to Surkitengo? Do what you said. | ||
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On December 18 2015 10:17 GiygaS wrote: agree with Dam here. If he was mafia and kush is town there's really no reason for him to swap. He had already made a vote, the spotlight would have been off him. That last minute swap means nothing if kush turns out town. That said, I'd prefer we don't lynch kush purely for this, he's been much better since yesterday at sticking around and making reads. I back this up. Considering that was the fact i been saying why Damdred cannot be mafia since like EoD ._. | ||
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On December 18 2015 10:24 Koshi wrote: As a townie you would have wanted to make the right choice between kush and gb. There was a 0% cha ce Vivax would happen. You would have wanted to vote "right" as a townie. But instead you wasted your vote. I do not give a single fuck why you would do it as mafia. Only mafia would do it. You did not have a good enough townread on both gb and kush at that moment that you didnt want to make the best choice between them to go forward in solving the game. It was important for towns progression to lynch between gb and kush. Ahhh why am I explaining this to mafia... They dont get it. But i have also been saying this could be a possibility since EoD/beginning of this day. I think honestly the other theory is better personally through. | ||
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Anyways, looking through TT filter right now since i remember this post (spoiled): + Show Spoiler + On December 17 2015 05:59 Tictock wrote: Ok so trying to hash out my read on Rit a bit better and I just can't seem to feel confident about him one way or the other. He makes some solid points and shows some clear thinking, but then other times he talks about stuff like he's got some magic mind-meld read on people. The real issue I have with the mind meld stuff is it only works for Rit (as in will never change other people's minds because it's not based on something tangible) and we just have to take his work on those reads. Similarly I think it's kinda shit that he claims "Only girls have a 100% read on LS" which sounds kinda like he's just leaving himself room to change his read on LS. I'm also finding Rit's EoD very lackluster. He was around and responding to some of my posts but other than that he only posts these 2 posts to push his own reads. It looked like Kush was going to be the lynch right up until I voted and Damdred tried to Shenannie, but this was all Rit did to try and get the lynches he wanted (Myself or GB). It's also pretty shit then how Rit attacks Damdred after EoD for getting GB lynched since GB was his preffered lynch. Just feels out of place given Rit wanted to flip GB. Also I must have missed this before, but I'm confused about Rit's read on Kush. His reads post comes first but this was the post I missed: So Kush is potentially mafia, but Rit doesn't want to go down that rabbit hole due to Kush townreading him... I have no idea what the last bit is referring to. It's like he's leaving room for Kush to be mafia but gives a handwavy explanation why he doesn't want to push that. Feels really off especially since Rit goes off to defend Kush pretty hard at EoD. Here we see Rit has Kush as his 2nd most town after Shape He even explains this read to me and defends it when Rels is asking about it I've already discussed the weird townread on Shape, and I saw shape make a big tinfoil case on Rit regarding it (need to read that better, only had time to skim it) so that is another point to consider here. On the other hand Rit's push on me had some good explanations even if it's just making a big deal of me reevaluating my thoughts, and the way that he was interacting with me near EoD feels pretty geniune. The first part looks very towny to me, especially the bolded: + Show Spoiler + I still don't get why everyone blows up at me for thinking about NAI or null things out loud, but I guess I should learn to change that up. Last game GB and Vivax tunneled me the shit out of me D1 for a very similar post, here it is so you can compare for yourself. On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote: Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. He talks about his read on me again here: The bolded line is not true iirc. I think Shape pointed this out at some point as well, but I was one of the first people to dislike Shapes early posting and the shit about "Snap conceded/fucked off" is obviously laughable now. So in this post Rit is inventing reasons to scum read me. While lining up one of his own townreads as a potential scum and is pushing a now confirmed townie. I didn't even realize when I started anylizing that post how fucking shit it was. But now that I've looked over #393 pretty carefully I see Rit is pushing 3 mislynchs there while inventing reasons to push them. I've seen Rit play rather strongly as mafia before in the Newbie game I ran, he is rather good at it. Look this shit over though I think Rit is a soild chance at scum here. Which brings me up to 3-4 scum reads now in Gig/Rit/Vivax/ and maybe Kush. I think I need to get back to solidifying my townreads because right now I think if we lynch out these people we win the game. According to OP I can donate my posts This is the last of my time today as I have to head to my 2nd job soon. So I'm giving the rest of my posts to Shape. ##Donate 15 posts to Shapelog Do not know why mafia would give someone who is reading off town to most people more posts. Reason why i looking over filter right now. | ||
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On December 18 2015 10:38 Shapelog wrote: I mean maybe to buy town cred idk, that like the only thing i can think of right now. expanding. Like he could of gave me the posts because he knew i was going to talk about Rik? Then maybe shot Rik? Doubt it but going to wait before i jump to conclusions. Might make a scum/town case against/for him. | ||
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On December 18 2015 10:57 GiygaS wrote: Don't think about it man, the situation is completely WIFOM. You're better off spending time looking at other things, otherwise you'll just go in circles. Actually i wouldn't go in a circle. I would write a Conspiracy theory on the possibility of you and TT being mafia together. TT idea comes after mine. Blah blah blah copy, blah blha push blame on either me or kush (depending on easier target) and profit from Rik's death. Look i thought of it in the shower, Prob. overthinking, but interesting to look at yall's interacting together (if there is any). But I really A. not in the mood/tired and B. i do not think this town can handle one of my Conspiracy theories right now. We already have two-three things going on. Adding a fourth front isn't going to be productive. Also i would have to build another WoT or big case to support it and my filter would just die. and C. my tinfoil failed last time. I might filter dive for it after lynch tomorrow and post it for EoD in the case i get shot (which is high considering how much i am contributing) Like only way i see living till tomorrow is if my death would indicate who is mafia. idk not the time for this. | ||
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I be on for like 30 mins, so QandA time if you have any. | ||
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To which i say, please post/read people/bomb us when (or if) ur calm or cooled off. If your town, then the "just lynch me so i can leave" isn't going to help anyone. I can image how annoying it is to deal with Koshius (i am not even the one being accuse and i am stressed out from him.) That said, I have little to no reason to believe your town other then your shengains and D1 which scaled weak IMO. like the only time i felt like you were trying to help develop the game today was when me and you were discussing Rel being mafia. Other then that is all defense from Koshius mostly. I prob. missed something, but I have a gut feeling the a KubRel and Damred team just can't be. | ||
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On December 18 2015 19:47 Sukrit wrote: I think Shape is a Rsoultin smurf and I have officially stopped reading her posts. Who the hell is Rsoultin? like this is the second time someone meation him/her. Also doubt i am smurt if i came into the game with 60+ posts. Was just skimming through when i saw this. Got to start at TT WoT and read to current post. | ||
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On December 19 2015 01:20 kushm4sta wrote: Here's some tinfoily stuff. ritoky defended shape. what if shape is giving himself away here just as a little wink to himself I really, really, really, really, want to this to be true. Btw you also enter the Tinfoil club with me and TT. Main reason i posted all "I would do this as mafia" so when i play another game and i am not as active you people will lynch me and see that focusing on meta is a secondary reasoning to lynch someone. Bit caught up now. Do not think Vobby is the best lynch today. A Rels or even a Damred flip would be more telling. | ||
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That was from me when i he ask me to read Rel when i said i wasn't the one to back a meta case right? And TS brings the the reasoning that Rels isn't always forceful as mafia, but has to be at town right? Sorry day has been rough. | ||
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On December 19 2015 02:44 kushm4sta wrote: Rels Damdred ls Gigas vivax are all on my maybe list GigyaS Khan Could be scum, be i am less certen for him then Rels. Anyone Notice he has been Tunneling TT a bit? idk might just be me. I will explain why i think he is mafia at a later time since i do not know how long i be on. | ||
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On December 19 2015 02:53 Koshi wrote: A lot of people are set to lynch Rels. I think his flip will force a lot of people to do new shit. So if he is town it isn't the worst. (the above sentence looks fucking terrible, but it is somewhat true) Yeah, if you compare his lynch to someone like GiygaS Khan or Vobby, is isn't as beneficial. Kubrels it the better lynch by far since we can go off of either side of the flip. Not like i been saying it for a while. | ||
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I am going to go ahead and vote KubRels now for obvious reasons. ##Vote:KubRELS | ||
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Initial sus. from Koshius and others TS Case My Case (which was brought on by TS partially, but he wasn't asking for the WoT i provided) TT Case | ||
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On December 19 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote: Whoops I had used my 8k post on putting my vote on Rels. At least Science Vessels are awesome I guess? I have use my 100th post which i already had set aside for a blog. And 250th. And prob. 1000th in another game lol. | ||
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On December 19 2015 03:18 LightningStrike wrote: It happens. What you think of kush's recent stuff? I like Kush-Lush-Fush newer posts. I like how he called u scum (ik weird) But i really have to dive through his filter to see my position on him. (Future goal, no null or unsures for list at EoD) | ||
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On December 19 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote: Damdred can I get you to play bro? I believe in you bro! I also too believe in you. And yes LS i shall filter dive, might find something i do not like and he turns from scum to town. Just got to read and analyze it cohesively. | ||
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On December 14 2015 14:01 kushm4sta wrote: hello dear friends. I was not expecting this game to start so quickly. The number of potential signups made me think this was a large game and that it would start nearer to christmas. Should I ask for replacement? hmm no I think I would rather just piss everyone off with my minimal activity. I'm going to placeholder on ritoky because i see his name up there and I recall him posting pics of miley cyrus. On December 14 2015 23:22 kushm4sta wrote: Did a quick control-f for my name. No, Koshi, I will not be useless. This level of activity looks like it will be quite manageable for me to keep up with. Yes, GB,I do deserve your vote at this point in time. I hope to put some time into this game at lunch. All I can say now is ritoky is obviously town, which is funny because I'm currently voting him. On December 15 2015 04:16 kushm4sta wrote: his long post where he sounds paranoid I don't what you mean here. What is scummy about what I said precisely? I find his town read awkward. Like his main point for it was because Rik sounded paraiod in is post (which he didn't seem to me.) It is almost like he was trying to find a reason to town read him. On December 17 2015 08:46 kushm4sta wrote: So that's got to look good for me right? A townie saved me. And then says "The person i was town reading died, that good right?". It's weird IMO. Rational Shapelog says this is a coincidence, but irrational shapelog says this is mafia indicate. And that Surkitengo and Kush planed to kill Rik from day one. Second point, Him and GiygaS khan: On December 17 2015 02:46 kushm4sta wrote: This read on koshi makes me think he's town. It is a very specific type of read. Very nuanced. Scum don't have nuanced reads like that. On December 17 2015 02:57 kushm4sta wrote: His scumreads look believable and so does his case on rels. Not saying they are right or wrong but they look like townie reads So he is town reading GiygaS Khan. On December 18 2015 19:53 kushm4sta wrote: Really not impressed with that exam schedule post. I'm sure it's true but the pressure want even on him. Scummy because he wants to take advantage of an irl excuse to its fullest. He could have just said I have exams. Onegu no one wants your steam of consciousness. That does not help find scum. Then calling his RL reasoning scum sus. He goes against all his defense for GiygaS Khan and calls him scummy. I feel this is a townie post. I can't really explain why, But run the case where they are a team. Why even post this? For town cred and bring sus. on a team mate. Heck lets look through this in the eyes of a kush as mafia and GiygaS as town, why go against one the people your town reading and bring sus. onto your self? To try to get a mislynch when everyone is set on either Rels or Vobby? Thats why i think this is a townie post, because it makes in a mafia shoes IMO. Point 3: me Scum->town->Town with chance of mafia What do i mean? On December 19 2015 01:20 kushm4sta wrote: Here's some tinfoily stuff. ritoky defended shape. what if shape is giving himself away here just as a little wink to himself Again, why would mafia go after someone else at this point. Plus i am a sucker for tinfoil So in conclusion, Kush is prob. town but as scummy posts. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:07 Tictock wrote: This doesn't make a lot of sense, why would they bus a teammate like this? Why would Rels bus both teammates. The team is not fucking Rels/Damdred/Kush! Like maybe the stuff I said about how Damdred saw I was planning to vote GB and saw me suggest Vivax so tried to shennanie Vivax to save Kush. That's risky though kus if I had voted Vivax with Damdred then Kush gets lynched anyways. Comptely agree because i been saying Damred and Rels team has been impossible/highly unlikely since EoD. Thought Koshius was going to learn. I think our Lynch options today are: Rels Kouhius and Oengu. prob. in that order, but i might being bias on Rels. Idk i still think Kubrels is best lynch. Koshius lynch also reveals a lot of info as well if he flips scum. But if he is town, we kinda have a iffy situation where we can not afford to screw up. | ||
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On December 19 2015 05:49 GiygaS wrote:[/B Going to read through tt and then ls next. When I was reading through kush he seemed to bring up some good points. I don't like the Rels case at all right now, seems mostly based on Shape tinfoil team theories and general misinformation. Wasn't suppose to be i guess, mostly brought up by TubeSock. [B]On December 19 2015 05:44 Tictock wrote: I really don't think this is true. This seems like a really bad assumption to make. Onegu I'm really not following your thinking here at all. You say Shape is Rsoul, thus is mafia and Like you have no proof, aren't trying to show why this is true, but are immediately using this smurf idea to tunnel and ignore Shape. You are doing kinda the same thing with Koshi. I kinda get this, and it's true Koshi isn't making a lot of sense, but can you explain your thinking a bit better? Like what differentiates town!Koshi from scum!Koshi? Koshi's play looks a lot like his Town game from Mansion, but tbh I've never looked at his scum games. I agree with some of your stream of thoughts post, but it's looking to me like you are forcing yourself to stay tunneled on Shape and Koshi with these half-assed reasons that you don't try to backup. I know you and Koshi will probably tunnel each other regardless of alignment ([spoiler=tinfoil]In fact, I could actually see Koshi and Onegu shit fight each other as scum just to shit up the thread and keep in line with expectations.[/spoiler] but you really need to do more than: Like Koshi did the same shit as town last game, why wouldn't he do it now? You could probably flip the bolded around too because you seem to always push Koshi. Idk, last game I felt like Onegu was pushing Koshi's buttons just kus he could. This is feeling more like Onegu is just pushing Koshi kus he feels like he should and is inventing reasons to tunnel Shape. I still need to finish my catchup, but I'm thinking Onegu is a solid lynch based off these shit reasons to tunnel people. Funny thing though, I kinda agree about Koshi he's not making much sense today pushing a team of Rels/Damdred/Kush and wanting to lynch Rels who is the least likely member of that team. I can see where your getting at TT. Brought onegu up once or twice today but keep forgetting to check his filter. About him and Koshius being mafia. I can understand your tinfoil, One does one thing the other does the other. | ||
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Has Kubrels really posted anything yet? other than at koshius for voting him over damdred or something. Last thing i remember from him. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:13 Tictock wrote: This sounds like BS, I doubt you'd say that just to go "Gotcha! See meta is shit" after the end of another game... Besides you've been using meta all over the place this game. Though to be fair you've been doing a decent job of not basing a read solely based off of that. This prob doesn't mean anything though kus Self-meta is meh. True, i been a bit hypocritical (or what ever it is) in that sense. typed the really part first and went back too it. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:25 Shapelog wrote: Well if damred wants to get modkilled, banned, and cause town to loss the entire game if who we lynch today flips town. Then let him be, at this point idc. If he is town. | ||
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But if Vobby shows up, then yeah i am with GiygaS Khan with Discussing. Especially depending on what he does. But honestly, He flips mafia and we then have sus. Koshius is best case in his lynch. Right now a Rels lynch or even a Koshius lynch is better IMO. | ||
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I already know TT's incoming question, Can you Explain? Also yeah, lately even Koshius is sus. about his house elf friend Vobby. Still null/idk read him i think. | ||
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1. True, for the most part. 2. True, again. Do not think is the main reason why you should based your argument on though. I can see him honestly doing that. Scum would just take the lynch at that point, especially when they say the person was scum and their post right before EOD ended. Pushing a team that doesn't make sense is more in the NAI IMO 3. Overly Defensive for his Vobby, Even he is starting to not trust Vobby (i think he said it in his last list) Not really because it isn't true. Just wanted to point this out. (I realized this could be racist if Koshius is white and Vobby is black. Hm) 4. Half true, they haven't really keep it up, which i guess points them to scum? Onegu lynch should come after Koshius lynch. Onegu does have a lot of people he scum reading, be is focusing both me and koshius mainly. 5. again not the main point. I know, i do not like it either. The play for mafia makes no sense since it was really what brought half the people onto Damred and Rels. But can just be him being a stubborn child (naughty child?). I agree with most of this, just 5 and 2 aren't good enough for the main reason why to lynch him IMO. He could be scum trying to push multiple fronts at once. But honestly, if both Onegu and Koshius is doing this, they are making differcult to secure a lynch IMO. More like, "well they got to have at least one person to go after." Maybe they are trying to hide it? | ||
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@damred, personally i think the info from Rels flip is better for all the reasoning you just said and them some. @everyone Going to restrict my posting for EOD. (11 page filter lol. 11-6 or 7 = 5/4 pages of filter today) Unless i see something big that i have to point out. Saying this so you guys do not think i am being inactive. | ||
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On December 19 2015 07:56 Sukrit wrote: Comeon Plz lynch Koshi! Koshi is trying to get as many mislynches has possible before being lynched. The fact he wants a rels lynch is why we shouldnt lynch him. Please lynch koshi. GO GO I and TS also wanedt the KubRels Lynched.... Included me! Notice me Senpai! | ||
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Anyone else thinking this is a dumbtell. Sounds like something meant for a mafia QT. Prob. should not be sus. of peeps right now being tired from work. Just wondering if anyone else read this as a dumbtell or as just a normal post. Would laugh if Vobby and Surkitengo is mafia together and Vobby trying to get a vote in picked his team mate to randomly vote. I can even picture Onegu yelling at him now | ||
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On December 19 2015 08:31 Shapelog wrote: Anyone else thinking this is a dumbtell. Sounds like something meant for a mafia QT. Prob. should not be sus. of peeps right now being tired from work. Just wondering if anyone else read this as a dumbtell or as just a normal post. Would laugh if Vobby and Surkitengo is mafia together and Vobby trying to get a vote in picked his team mate to randomly vote. I can even picture Onegu yelling at him now Idk this might be the tinfoil and booze talking tbh | ||
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On December 19 2015 10:17 LightningStrike wrote: I home and first off: WTF Rels flipped town............. Welp this is going to be tough. Second of all: Koshi I think you need to get your head out of your butt with your attitude it not helping us at all. Third of all: WTF is VIvax voting Onegu at the very last moments of the day phase.......... HEY I'VE HAD A EHPIANY BEzAUSESSS OF SECOND POINTING! On December 17 2015 02:26 kushm4sta wrote: Hi tt I will read gigas. Um I said you should have lynched me? Cause then ivwoildnt have to worry about this game anymore 'll On December 18 2015 10:29 Damdred wrote: Yeah koshi is just deranged and can't come up with a real answer. The correct answer is town do weird things all of the time because shenanigans or failed ones happen all of the time. Town don't care about the light mafia do for the most part. And koshi uses the it was important for town progression that gb or kush was lynched, that's beyond stupid since one of then was lynched. Please lynch me,this phase On December 19 2015 08:07 Koshi wrote: yeah knew it in the end. too many people were making completely retarded cases on me based on this and the fact I didn't lynch Damdred. gg. Tomorrow you can ml me. I will vote Damdred and then afk out the game. might be last ml. But I don't make any more posts in this game. The town will have to know I am town. If they don't. It's ok. Commonnized tread realized and conclued. Tinefoilness and Druken vibe and wants these folks to be team. But tbh as the other the ones are progressing. Koshiusis will probularby be jusssssssssst fined. | ||
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On December 19 2015 08:50 kushm4sta wrote: ##dontate 1 million posts to koshi GoOd job matey. Way to STIck it To HIM! Now the Koshiussussa WILL HAVE To do the posts. | ||
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On December 19 2015 08:49 Tictock wrote: I thought about this randomly and decided it would be fun. ##Donte 5 posts to Koshi Fight me bro. No more handouts from me. NO MR.TickdeToak BAD BOY FIghtingxz. We Haved To Haive A coNverSation Aboutiy VoBBy. NoW do U! Wantve toh LYCNH! VoBby orKosushishshush? OR shouldwe be More ACcepTing Of otherirses And Likes ConSider Somesoenes Liek Oengus Or tHat KhaN!. IN FACT, I shalz DriVe and Get InFO On They So I can CharGe ThEm WiTH THE DEATHS OF RIKOTY. GOD I MISS THAT GUY! HE WAS SUCH A GOOD FAtherZs I Getz baCk toO yoU aFter The Drive. WAIT FOR ME MR. TIckDeToak! | ||
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WaS TyPing Brillllenrt ResPond ON WhO WaAS ScUm. THeN PagE ReLoaD, LoSt It. Oh Wellllll, Justa PoSt ThE CaSe Torrrmoerrr. Don'T yOU DARE MR> TICKDLATOLK TO SKIP AHEAD! | ||
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Don't really expect uber posts until like 4 hours or something when the poundiing calms down. I used to being on computers with migraines but not problem solving. | ||
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Eh, If I was on for more than a hour while drunk. And didn't apparently refresh what ever case i was thinking of? Probulary could of been a lot worse/useful depending on the case. Looks like at a quick glance that i was talking about Filter diving you, vobby(wut?), Koshius, and Oengu. Might do that if i feel like it. Just prob. start in like two fucking hours. | ||
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On December 19 2015 17:11 Sukrit wrote: Lynch Koshi then Shape, then Damdred then win One of thoses might be scum. Then again, you could be scum. Do not know why you put Damdred last tbh, if damred flips scum it would make anyone defending his actions at D1 more sus. I.E. Me. Also do you have a reason other then a gut feeling to lynch me like you did day one? | ||
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Shape making his posts intentionally hard to read. Scum[/QUOTE Oengu making a smurf intentionally sounding like a rip off name for a sundrop. scum. Eh you at least deserve a dive before i even call you scum tbh. Vobby doesn't. | ||
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On December 20 2015 01:47 LightningStrike wrote: That quote fail Idk what you talking about LS.....Looks normal to me On December 19 2015 14:22 Sukrit wrote: Shape making his posts intentionally hard to read. Scum Oengu making a smurf intentionally sounding like a rip off name for a sundrop. scum. Eh you at least deserve a dive before i even can call you scum for real tbh. Vobby doesn't. There, also fixed it to tell my message better. | ||
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On December 19 2015 17:11 Sukrit wrote: I have stopped reading his posts completley I don't even understand this person anymore. He said a long time ago i was a smurf, never reading my post again. Then reads my drunken slur, calls me scum, and vows again to never read again. Which makes no fucking sense to me. Why not as town read the posts of the person you call scum so you can make a case and get them lynch. Nothing he is fucking doing make sense anymore past D1. I wish I was scum in this position, be so fucking easy to Mislynch Oengu right now. Thankfully, bringing this out makes it harder to mislynch him (unless he does something dumb). People not making sense in plays and slash or inactive (other then me): Vobby Oengu Koshius to a degree. | ||
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On December 20 2015 04:29 Sukrit wrote: What if in recent history you checked whose reads were most correct you would find out it was me. I dont make cases I just find and tell you who is mafia. It is a gift and a curse The way I figured this smurf would be found out was if you google the word you find that it is a Thai name. It is my son's middle name. As I believe I am the only person who lived in Thailand for 3ish years and has a Thai wife figured that would have given me up. Nowwww i feel like a douche for comparing it to a rip off name for a sun drop. I did google Sukrit after this... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kzluKaG.jpg) I am jelly, hes hotter then me >_> P.S. head hurts less now, beginning diving | ||
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I feel like onegu is scum but this might be because he is posting nothing supporting his scum reads Since D1. Like at D1 he had reasons to scum read me, now he is just got a gut feeling? Who knows. I would prob. lynch either Vobby, maybe Koshius, and onegu. Through Kush could be a good lynch too. Need to catch up and actually read the fucking filters like i said i would. Was suppose to have a case on someone since i like spending EoD analyzing someone and go into the next day pushing them. Eh prob. better to wait after night kill to start deciding. | ||
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On December 20 2015 09:36 LightningStrike wrote: anyone that is a vig or had the present you need to claim now. A. We do not have a vig as non of the roles in blue are vigs. B. If person was town with the present of the gun they would almost 100% of the time kill Vobby. This is why Mafia had the Gun | ||
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You have been warned........ 3-4 hours till the fucking gates of hell opens......... prepare....... For the Mindfuck.... Of Shapelog's discovery... P.S. Onegu, your wrong on sooo many levels | ||
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Masons Is worse in this situation as it can be calm by two mafia. Trust no masons. Tracker and other alignment tracker is only good if they have info. Felt like talking about this. | ||
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On December 20 2015 13:45 Tubesock wrote: Vivax is roleblocker. Vote Vivax. I refreshed the page while working on my WoT. Can you please explain? | ||
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On December 20 2015 14:07 Tubesock wrote: Got kit Kat. I opened kit Kat. Was role check. Vivax claimed/crumbed cop. Returned roleblocker. On phone so quote sucks. But I said "Vivax Dies day 3, C u later" Cu is copper is cop. Dies day 3 is a reference to Star Wars with anakin/dearth Vader. As in Vivax check returns cop or something else so the Vivax question dies. Ok.... well i can add to this with my WoT in a bit (2 hours....). It is not about Vivax though. Bolded is best hiddeness for a message ever. I do not know if this is just you being funny or not. | ||
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Yeah i posted this 6 seconds after you posted present. also wanted to see if you claim a role that A. didn't exist or B. didn't make sense. Was too dead on for a Clara check so i wanted to see. | ||
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On December 20 2015 14:13 Tubesock wrote: you going to vote Vivax or what? Wait till my big ass WoT comes out and you see why i am not voting Vivax. I got my own info i am working off in that regards lol. Also because there is a chance you are mafia BSing a present results. So i like to post my case since this is basically Lylynch | ||
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On December 20 2015 14:19 Tubesock wrote: no worries. This is a big deal and we have like 40 hours left. yeah that is why i am involving math/probability in my case, covering all angles | ||
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Hes Scum! He visted Kush last night. And yes, i am claiming the blue role of Fritz Stahlbaum, I am a one-time tracker (since mechanics state a role can be one-shot two shot or mutishot). It is funny how i got this piece of info btw. I misunderstood my role haha. I thought i see who Vists the person i was TRACKING not the other way around. You can thank that misunderstanding when TT flips mafia 1st reason why he is scum over unlucky Miller: Probability Math! the greatest weakness of guess who games! Let us obverse the natural and non-natural (human mafia influence.) Natural: lets say the set up of the game was like this: 2-3 blue roles, 3 vt, 2-3 millers, 2-3 wanders, 3 scum. Best chance TT gets miller is 3/13 Chance of visting Kush last night 1/9 Natural chance (random shot basically) of mafia killing kush the same night: 1/9 3 * 1 * 1 = 3 13 * 9 * 9 = 1053 So a natural chance of all that happening is 3/1053 or 1/351 or .28 % Of ever happening! But, I can hear you say (or TT at least) what about human mafia? They are surly not ever going to randomly shot someone! that be unreasonable! and that is true.... But there is way we can roughly calculate the non-natural chance that mafia would shot Kush last night. Patterns. So far 2/3 of the night kills by mafia have been second hand town members. What do i mean by second hand? townies who have lack luster mafia cases and slash or low content. Only Koshi has broken this rule. So we can calcule with this pattern who is mafia target last night: TS: heck no with that Rels case does he fit in. (might be mafia...) Giygas Khan: No, he did that big case on me, and a few smaller, but good scum cases/posts analyzes. Damred: not a single real case past D1, and that wasn't even big. +1 (might be mafia) TT: Doesn't matter, hes mafia, he would be shooting, so subtract one from the bottom. But if we are calling him a miller, then no Kush: Check +1 Koshi: Nope..... Mafia probuly killed him for town cred (more on that later) Lets say mafia already knew they were going to kill him so we will exclude him to give TT the best chance here. Me: Hell no, I been their biggest advocate (again later on) Surkit: Yes, but i think he is mafia along with TT. LS: pretty meh, not enough to be out of this logic : +1 Vobby: checkish +1, if i was scum, might as well lynch him and get cred at this point though. So for the sake of it (and since everyone else is calling him mafia I put him with the mafia team for this) So 3/6 or 1/2 of the people were up to be shot by mafia last night. 3 * 1 * 1 = 3 13 * 9 * 2 = 234 So 3/234 or 1/78 or 1.2 % chance of it happening. 1.2% vs a .28 % for innocent miller to be caught going to a dead person's home. Awful chances of miller aren't they? So if he is mafia it is a 98.8% non natural chance and a 99.72 natural chance that he was visiting for mafia business. Go ahead and fight me if you think he was just visiting Kush for a drink on the night he died. Go ahead, i got math. 2nd reasoning: TT has done nothing that makes sense as mafia. I bet you read that and went "What?" how can you claim someone is mafia when they done nothing that makes sense. I think i told Damred best why when he posted this: On December 18 2015 08:53 Damdred wrote: Let me make it clear why I think Rels is town from that exchange specifically. 1) Mafia as a whole have a great sense of wanting to keep good apperances in thread. This comes from muddying pushing somewhat easy lunches avoiding hot topics. Most of this comes from not wanting to disturb waters and draw attention. On December 18 2015 09:20 Shapelog wrote: 1. So your saying "typically, mafia is more quiet then town and meh pushs easy targets." Ok, that makes sense. But how does that factor in. Can't Anyone decide not to follow the mafia's golden rule? How does that really make sense? just because 75% of people follow a logic makes the 25% all the more deadly. Idk, maybe it is because when i gotten mafia/scum in RL mafia games i play exactly the same. 1st off my biggest issue with this and TT is that it is hard for him to "Trend waters" as Damred claim mafia should do. Is that that is Exactly why everyone scum read TT at the beginning! Just like koshi, if he doesn't live up to his "town play" he is auto scum in people eyes. So he has to do these big reads and cases. Hes got to put up the show, to be believe as town. And that's it. It is like something known as security theater, it is not actual security, it is just a show of security like behavior and actions that makes everyone feel safe. That is what he is doing here. Lets go threw the list: Rik case: So TT enters the game after much inactiveness, (maybe planned) and comes in and has a magically same theory i had about Rik. About his hard ass town read on me. Everyone wrote it off as tinfoil basically, except him. Tell me, why in the world would mafia come into the game, see people are questioning he's side, and instead of posting a bunch of stuff and posting. He just jumps on this. He could easily saw my theory and jump on. You can how this actually HELPS a mafia. Let me run it again, nearing end of D1, before wagons really from. TT sees votes on him, realizes that no one paid attention to his Rik post for the most part, and is discussing lynching him. Makes a relative rushed post, and gets into a conversation with Riks. Everyone points out his post is rushed, so he does something unexcepting, he votes for Giyga Khan. At that point, he wasn't even really talked about in the terms of being scum. Well then people scum read him for wasting his vote. I can image at this point he was desperate. He knew the two wagons were town and town. Damred (who maybe is his partner) does shenanigans and he has to vote one or the other to avoid sus. about him voting GiygaS Khan. And hammers GB because "well i am sus. might as well do something more sus. so i look town". Then to give him more cred, he goes off me going hard onto Rik. then kills Rik. Koshi Vote: pretty self explaining. Knew he would be town and that a fellow team mate had a gun. Maybe onegu is with him lol. Kush kill: So here we are. The info that got me writing this WoT in the first place. But why would the person kill the person he just scum reads? Duh for the cred. On December 17 2015 08:46 kushm4sta wrote: So that's got to look good for me right? A townie saved me. It is different then from when Kush said he was more townie because Rik die. Remember how everyone thought this was a WIFOM move by mafia to cast sus. on me and kush? And everyone told Kush it was NAI? Kush didn't scum read Rik, in fact, he sided with rik. Compare this too: On December 20 2015 06:01 Tictock wrote: So Shape posted this, which I think is rather good. His conclusion is rahter mixed, prob town but with scummy posts? Looking at Kush's vote D2. Is pretty poor reasoning. And that's a pretty long maybe list for all the townreading he was doing earlier on... Kush might well be Mafia here. Then Kush dies. The night TT calls him scum, magically he visits the place with at best a 1.2% chance roughly as a miller? And the night before, digs up my read on kush which practically said "This guy is town, but he does have a few scummys posts" which clearly implies that they aren't big enough to make me think he was mafia. Then pulls up irrelevant D2 garage filter from Kushs filter to call him scum. Why would he do this as mafia? Because that has been his entire plan from the beginning! And it work so good to, I mean if it wasn't for my stupid mistake i would of not even have knew. But everything makes sense now. But it is time to drive home the "mafia is being obvious mafia to try to seem town" claim. 3rd reason: His trouble, dumbtell posts. On December 19 2015 08:14 Tictock wrote: Yea kus I'm fucking mafia here bussing all my teammates. You are the fucking king of Nonsense Koshi. And why the hell are you only talking in terms of Teams when we haven't lynched mafia yet? Gah, it's like you want me to tunnel you. Idk about Damdred (I don't think really he went hard after damdred tbh, more like "his play makes no sense! again") about about Vivax. Tell me why the hell mafia at this point shouldn't get rid of him if he is scum? Because he is a team mate? It is way to hard to defend his crap. It seems too good that mafia would just let one of their own get lynch without some plan. And guess what, the other two TT and ???? are doing just that, to get cred. Mafia will have too at this point either come out and lie about a role or just let him get lynch. But if Vivax is town (which according to TS could be a 50/50 right now bewteen mafia and town RB) then it is easy winnings right now. Keeping vivax alive as possible has been mafia key goal. No one except LS i think even glace at my post D2 when i keep bringing up Vobby. Why not keep town Vivax alive as long as possible. I still think he is scum, but honestly a coinflip right now (if what TS is saying is true, which for all i know could be mafia trying to influence voting) At our last lynch is super fucking dicey Dead Koshi post: On December 20 2015 11:56 Tictock wrote: This 100%. I know I would have shot Vobb... Vivax if I had had the chance. Even after that looking into Kush's poor reasoning vote onto Rels. This pretty much clears Damdred too based on his D1 vote, I don't think mafia would try to start shenannies when it's town v town like that. I think Vivax is the obvious lynch today. However the day is still young and I think Koshi has a really strong chance at being mafia with Vivax. So ##Vote: Koshi This is prob. NAI but is worth mentioning. Easy knowing that koshi is dieing to post this after day to basically be town. How does mafia forget who they are killing? Excellently, that is why he is mafia. Sees my post about vig and gun, Somehow misses the who conversation with LS about asking someone to claim up to who shot koshi (or maybe kush and TT had gun lol, no wait makes no sense) Skips Night flips and posts a koshi lynch. Because it seems townie. But this is his biggest dumbtell all game for the "obivous mafia being town" plan. Hell lets ponder if a town killed koshi last night. By his skimmyness alone, to not even look at who died. seems like a normal scum move. Wait....He HAD TO READ THE DAY CYCLE POST BECAUSE HE KNEW KUSH DIED! HOW IN THE HELL DID HE MISS KOSHI? Maybe skimming through to see if his night kill got healed! And you know what is funny? I FUCKING BROUGHT IT, SO DID EVERYONE ELSE! MAFIA TOO OBVIOUS? NO THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. I mean give me your 1st reason that you ever thought of in this game that TT was town? Was it a town read? scum case? No, it was because it was posting like a mad man trying to get everyone to say "thats our boy" and it fucking work! Damm...... Conclusion: Which one do you feel more comfortable with? A almost 99% gaurtreed scum or a 50/50 scum? Pure probulbilty says that TT only has a 1.2 % of rolling town at this point. Vivax still has 50%! at this point. My money is on the 99% scum God i was so lucky ##Vote: TicTock I can not believe you betrayed me tinfoil buddy you even killed the new member.Also if TS is mafia he fucked you over baldly because of a present call. Also Thanking my dumbness and my misunderstanding of the role lol. | ||
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Sooo if anyone is on, ask questions or marvel in my probability.Honestly thank my dumbass for misunderstanding my role tbh. Like Tictock here is best lynch....99% basically vs TS present info that gives a 50/50 lynch for Vobby. Which one would you pick knowing there is no more mistakes. No more mislynchs.... Put your faith into the light, and lynch the swine! I made my case Comrades. Now we wait until next day, to where i can see three wagons. Mine, TT, and Vobby's. You know which on i be on. Also I am special, i am only Blue role that has reveal lol. Think koshius meation something about this lol. | ||
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Lets raise a pint for the lass !I should get drunk more often this game. Also i like to point out, he is the only player giving out posts. To me. So he practically fucked himself trying to look town. Hell the donation got me scared that TT might be mafia a long time ago. Really fucking hope we have a doc tonight. Would be amazing if Vobby is town rb and rb the KP from mafia lol | ||
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3 * 1 * 9 =27 13 * 9 * 9 =1053 27/1053 or 1/39 or a 2.56 % that TT is still mafia lol. Like TT is the most unlucky miller if he is one lol. No way in hell that at BEST chance of being town is 2.56% vs 97.44% he isnt getting lynch today. Like anyone who doesn't lynch him is either dumb or mafia | ||
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On December 20 2015 18:28 GiygaS wrote: Fuck it, im not gonna sleep right now anyway. Let's assume you are telling the truth in your claim that you saw TT go to Kush's last night. There are multiple reasons this could happen: - TT is blue (Doubt there's two trackers, and it cant be doc or jailer so either rb, or detective) - TT is mafia (i.e. he used KP) - TT is wanderer (i.e. Chocolate) - TT got a gift of gun and used it on kush (NAI, very unlikely not even going to bother) - TT got a non gun gift and used it on kush (NAI) Note that these most likely won't add up to 1 since we're ignoring/fubbing a bunch of things. This is incredibly shady math and I hate myself for doing it, but it's better than the one above so I'll make the sacrifice. Let's say there were 2-3 blue roles in the game. Save you, that means there's 1-2 left. We'll add an additional multiplier based on the specific blue role he had to get (1/4 since we'll ignore tracker). We'll also assume that if he is blue he purposefully visited kush. P(TT is blue) = 0.03125 - 0.0625 Now we know there are 3 mafia. Then the chance mafia chose him to use kp is 1/3. (Assuming the mafia wanted to kill kush) P(TT is mafia) = 0.125 With our assumption of 1-2 Blue, and 3 mafia. There are 3-4 greens left. Additionally apply odds of him getting chocolate (we'll say 1/4 again) and of him visiting kush (1/9). P(TT is chocolate) = 0.01042 - 0.01389 We'll say there were 2-3 gifts handed out in general (out of the 13 players). For our purposes, the gifts that apply here are rolecheck, watcher, and visiting the person who gets nightkilled (this one is important). For the first two, odds are 1/9 he would visit kush. For the third, odds of him visiting kush would be 100%. P(TT got a non-gun gift and used it on kush) = 0.02686 - 0.040293 Sum range: 0.19353 - 0.241683 "Actual" probability (just much closer) of each: - TT is blue (Doubt there's two trackers, and it cant be doc or jailer so either rb, or detective) 12.9% - 32.3% - TT is mafia (i.e. he used KP) 51.7% - 64.6% - TT is wanderer (i.e. Chocolate) 4.3% - 7.2% - TT got a gift of gun and used it on kush (NAI, very unlikely he wouldn't shoot vivax. Not even going to bother) ~0% - TT got a non gun gift and used it on kush (NAI) 11.1% - 20.8% Again, these are very rough, but closer. Sleep time. Yeah this is roughly correct. What i get for doing a subject that i hate at 2:00 am But do you not, math wizard, have to instead factoring now out of people left (X/8), have to factor the chances of him getting wander or blue role from X/13 because that is how many roles there are? For the gifts though. Do you not have to add the probability of him getting the gift in the first place (which at best is 3/13)?I know they can be given to other players, but let said they weren't. Heck, do you not have to factor the chance of him getting wanderer from set-up (again 3/13 bast case) and * it against the chance he visted kush (1/9)? If not then that is my mistake. But it makes sense, (at least in my mind) to multiple the chance he got wanderer * the chance he visted kush. Also supposedly the Role-check was used by TS. so two presents if he didn't lie. And let say TS is correct and that maybe, just maybe, vivax is town rb. then their is a 1/13 to a 2/13 chance (since i am blue) of him from set-up and time the muti. of 1/4 like you said. comes down to a 1.92% - 3.84% chance once you add the chance of even getting the blue role from start. You know what, i am just going to redo my math for all the points you pointed out except with the x/13 chance of getting it blah blah blah factored in. gettting chocolate: 3/13 (chance he got it) * 1/10 (chance he visted kush last night) = 2.30% Gifts: So 1/13 chance of getting a present. then X/7 chance it is present. TT got gift of gun: Let just say he did have gun and shot kush (even though that would be crazy) 1/13 (of getting present) * 1/7(getting present of gun) * 100 to convert it to percent so 1.09% TT got other two gifts(watcher and stuff): 1/13 * 2/7 = 2.08% TT got gift of garlic (or the one that lets you vist night kill): 1.09% (And i know who he visted with a "gift" so) So for me with factoring the 3/13 in got: Blue chance: 1.92% -3.84% Getting chocolate: 2.30% Got the two gifts: 2.08% Mafia chance stolen from you: "- TT is mafia (i.e. he used KP) 51.7% - 64.6%" Other possibility: 20% roughly so roughly 80/100 percent is here. And this is just raw probability. I think i can find the last 20% Blue chance: 1.92%-3.84% Getting chocolate: 2.30% Got the two gifts: 2.08% Mafia : 71.7% - 84.6 % (20% can only go one place ) But hey, might be wrong with using the initial X/13 role getting logic. But to me, it doesn't make sense using X/8 for role prob. since it doesn't change from the X/13chance.Also you mess up. 1/10 chance instead of 1/9 for who could be targeted last night. | ||
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2/13 * 100 = 15.38% Then the 1/2 chance he is killing (1/1 IMO if he is the child) so 50% Knew they were going to kill Kush 100% You know what.... I am not the one who needs to do math when only sleeping for 4 hours. Just wanted to bring up the X/13 chance vs X/8 chance | ||
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On December 21 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote: The dangerous thing here is tube I think. Right now offering vivax up as tribute to carry the game is a real play I would think about playing. Its not 100% but I want tube to answer me why he checked vivax over say the more contested people in the thread? For example onegu myself or even gig would offer much more information than vivax who was basically lock scum after his eod. And the Tt matter I think we lynch vivax and then we lynch Tt I'll read Tt filter and then give a better opinion. Yeah that was my same thought process when i saw his present post. That is why it is fun to think about, because if he is mafia that would mean he just gave Vivax a 50/50 when everyone just came into today ready to vote him. You know TS all game has been saying "Well if you can't be reading his post, your scum?" Like he didn't want me to post my edit for my 1st WoT when the quotes broke. This is prob. NAI though at the moment. | ||
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On December 21 2015 00:04 GiygaS wrote: Shape look up the monty hall problem Is that the one with the doors and about you have a better chance if you pick door number two or switching doors or something? | ||
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Then compare the chances it is 1/999,999 that your door you pick is right vs 1/2 that the other door is right. That one right? | ||
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On December 21 2015 00:13 Shapelog wrote: Like the one where you pick one door out of the million and all but the one you pick and one are opened to reveal nothing? Then compare the chances it is 1/999,999 that your door you pick is right vs 1/2 that the other door is right. That one right? OH OH OH OH OH OH OH OH I GET IT KNOW. BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT X/13 CAN NOT BE RIGHT BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DIED ARE TOWN. AND THAT X/8 IS CORRECT. THAT IS WHY YOU USED X/8!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD I AM LEARNING! Still like 51-60% that he is mafia compare to Vivaxs 50/50 lol. | ||
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IDK, I consider. I just think the Vobby lynch is too temping. | ||
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On December 21 2015 00:20 Damdred wrote: If he's detective and visiting his scum read who died what's the point of outing himself again? So if his second day person is alive that he check, we know more info. But i guess i can understand this argument. IDK i feel like mafia played a jester mafia this game. Or a very in active mafia. | ||
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On December 21 2015 00:25 GiygaS wrote: I also did put in the chance of actually getting the gift in my calculation so you didn't have to. I'm also applying modifiers in my own head (this doesn't affect the percentages) based on how scummy they're acting. The second part of your post is saying that he's too town to be town when that really doesn't make sense. What was your first reasoning that TT was Town? was it a scum/town read or the way he was posting? I guess what i am getting at is he is trying to look town to the town. Koshi as town tried to be in active and everyone scum read him because of it (except you) Same thing happen to TT. Koshi post more content, insta-town read. Same happened mostly to TT. I just think with the track he is doing it as mafia to gain cred. IT makes sense to me, with all my tinfoil and booze. Oh well i guess vobby is just going to get lynch by yall. Like i am 70% certain i am not changing votes today | ||
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Just waiting for the Mongolian horde and for him to reveal that he has "rape" (some was rape, others did it actually to survive) people. | ||
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I know it has nothing to do with the game. Just worried for you pal. In truth the real Khan did go things, then did many many terrible things. We got to know if your turning into him. For all our security. It is normal in the USA to question if people are turning in mass murders. Hell we already know that Trump is Hitler 2.0. Its the norm here. Wait your from Canada...... I do not think a Canadian horde Would rape people. Sure kill people maybe, But i think your motives would not involve rapeing. More like just making the world a better place by world domination. Maybe i being too stereotypical of Canadian kindness though. Maybe i am underestimating your county for the fact that they are just sadistic murders. Nah, i pulling your leg Giyga Khan. Since i am a British, Native american, I love Canadians! | ||
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It is way too easy for a mafia to mislynch here in this case if he is town. I know i am doing a 180 from yesterday, but i was not excepting to be in a LyLynch right now.... Wish we had the extra mislynch for vobby in case of him being town. TS present info really got me questioning the right lynch here. | ||
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But yet Vobby, who has been the easiest target for a mislynch is still alive? IS it because he only post to avoid modkill? Is it because mafia knows it sus. and it is the easiest target for a mislynch? Why not kill everyone that could provide town with info with a lynch? And yes, why waste the gun when they could of mislynch koshius or vobby today and shot and win tomorrow? Because they have the best mislynch! Vobby. Like the more and more i think about it. The more and more i can see vobby being bait for the mafia's fishing hook. And town being the fish. | ||
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Like name one person you would pick for a lynch today other then vobby (Onegu, i am pretty sure i know yours ._.) Me TT Onegu Ls Damdred Giyga Khan TS 2-3 of those names are mafia. TT is my choice. What is your guys? And why would you pick that person to lynch if vobby wasn't here? | ||
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Damm why couldn't i be mafia this game >_> | ||
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On December 21 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: Then make a case showing how he's scum and explain why you decided to track Tt instead of say some of the other people in the thread? I've explain why i tracked him. because i misunderstood my role lol. thought it work like watcher. Not the other way around. It is funny that i got what i got. And i guess i make another case this time with more of a player analyze on filter and try to show you guys what i am getting at. Should be able to do it being semi-awake | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:03 Damdred wrote: Hmmmm ok Tbh if i knew it work the say it did i would of picked Kush/Koshi/Onegu. Also Drunken shapelog decided to go after him. I trust my drunkenness on this one. | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote: Why did you wait so long to track someone? Night two wasn't that long of a wait in my opinion since i only had one chance. I figured "The longer i can wait into the game to use this, the better" I guess this follows the Monty Hall Problem GiygaS Khan was talking about. Less Doors > better % about choosing. Why, is it consider long? | ||
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Fritz can submit the name of a person and see who that person visits each night. - OP Fritz can submit the name of a person and see who visits that person each night - How i read it I feel like a dumb ass over it too | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote: That's a difficult question. The easiest explanation is if you are a one shot blue role that is information based (ie cop or tracker) you use the power and then post your results get the extra information plus confirmed town d2 in the process. For example tracked onegu n1 no movement more likely he's town+your confirmed. Now it's an odd thing Couldn't technically I track GF who goes no where? Idk, I was like when i saw my role "Lets get some motherfucking mafia boys", I wouldn't be that smart enough to confirm myself like that . | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:20 Shapelog wrote: I was excited Funny enough, i have used this excuse many times. | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:26 Tictock wrote: Well I must be whatever the hell low chance I'm wanderer, kus I didn't shoot or open any candy or w/e. I got a VT role PM. Can we please lynch Vivax and give us another day to process? I don't believe there is anyway for Vivax to not be mafia here, and even if I am scum here I would probably be busing Vivax, so we lynch him and flips mafia (hopefully the RB like TS says). Town has chance to save and gain a ML. If that happens, go ahead and lynch me. If not then D4 will be interesting because I'm not mafia here and I have no intention of being the lynch that looses us the game. I normally don't really push my meta reads, but Vivax is so obviously scum based on his meta. I cohosted a game where he rolled scum was was literally too afraid to post anything because he thinks he is obvious as scum. As town he is engaged and drops opinions, like look at his posting D1 where he defers all responsibility to Koshi but then makes a couple of "Hey look I'm doing things" posts which actually don't do anything. Especially the question he asks to LS, it would suggest that he read the game, but if he read the game he would already have know the answer to that question. Check his meta yourself if you don't believe me. Shape can you explain to me your thought process with your 1 shot tracking? Why did you hold it N1? What made you think I was being targeted N2 and decide to track me? I'd also like Tube to answer the question that Damdred asked as well, because Vivax is an odd target to check when he looks so scummy, and it seems like you could gather more info from checking others. It's also the easiest claim in the world for Mafia to make here. I already did.... In so many times......*sigh* I misunderstood the text. I though it worked like a watcher/lookout. So i thought i was watching you, but turns out I tracking. Reason why i hold it is explain a few posts up. | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:34 Damdred wrote: But.... Tt post is super scummy Yeah most of it is him moving the attention off of himself and onto Vivax. And he hopes that we can be saved? 5v3 4v2 3v1 I hope to be save too but. | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:26 Tictock wrote: Well I must be whatever the hell low chance I'm wanderer, kus I didn't shoot or open any candy or w/e. I got a VT role PM. Can we please lynch Vivax and give us another day to process? I don't believe there is anyway for Vivax to not be mafia here, and even if I am scum here I would probably be busing Vivax, so we lynch him and flips mafia (hopefully the RB like TS says). Town has chance to save and gain a ML. If that happens, go ahead and lynch me. If not then D4 will be interesting because I'm not mafia here and I have no intention of being the lynch that looses us the game. I normally don't really push my meta reads, but Vivax is so obviously scum based on his meta. I cohosted a game where he rolled scum was was literally too afraid to post anything because he thinks he is obvious as scum. As town he is engaged and drops opinions, like look at his posting D1 where he defers all responsibility to Koshi but then makes a couple of "Hey look I'm doing things" posts which actually don't do anything. Especially the question he asks to LS, it would suggest that he read the game, but if he read the game he would already have know the answer to that question. Check his meta yourself if you don't believe me. Shape can you explain to me your thought process with your 1 shot tracking? Why did you hold it N1? What made you think I was being targeted N2 and decide to track me? I'd also like Tube to answer the question that Damdred asked as well, because Vivax is an odd target to check when he looks so scummy, and it seems like you could gather more info from checking others. It's also the easiest claim in the world for Mafia to make here. THe bolded is the most sus. part of the post. | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:38 GiygaS wrote: It's a really risky move on Shape's part to claim tracker as mafia since we've seen no blue roles flip yet. If we have one other tracker (maybe more than one-shot) than he's risking just outing himself immediately. If he was mafia it would be an high-risk low-reward play, where he was typing for 3 hours to do it. I just don't seem scum shape doing it. *cough Cough* 4 and 1/2 hours *cough cough cough* Started at 10, ended at 2:30 am | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:40 Damdred wrote: No no you guys aren't thinking correctly it's not what are the chances of having a Miller Nd wandering towny in a game those chances are ok. It is the chance wander vists Kush that night | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:40 GiygaS wrote: Holy shit you were working on it that entire time.  Well i had to deliver. And the mindfuck was prob. meh for you guys. But for me i cursed TT for like two hours after i got results. My Gf was srsy. Concern because i was going around the house helling at the top of my lungs: "TT you Sly motherfucking bastard" | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:51 Damdred wrote: No no no no don't be a moron ls you vote the red check out then we evaluate Tt vs sh tonight tommorow There might not be a tomorrow. Even if we go with Giyga Khan math (which is better) he has a 3:1 chance of being mafia to his second highest town play, a gift. No gift claim hmmmmmmmm So what? 3% vs 60% almost? 1:20 now And then we have TS present which said 50/50 for vobby? Only one fucking logical way. Makes me think your scum with him. But that is another fight for a another time. | ||
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I said there was going to be 3 wagons today. Me, TT, and Vivax. So we got some discussing to do. All the wagons clearly have their own reasoning. matter of picking | ||
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On December 21 2015 02:59 Damdred wrote: No ls remember when gb red checked hf and we didn't lynch him and lost the game? You take the ducking red check and go to the next day. You don't take the big play you take the right play. Don't be a moron. And look at sha trying to,discredit me for doing the correct thing Because i am paranoid? It is last lynch dude. Going all in. Like 3/7 of yall is mafia. All the matter of finding the right dudes. Oh well i will either lynch TT and win, Get lynched and lose with town, or coinflip Vivax Also makes no sense i am mafia with vivax with how i brought him consently | ||
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On December 21 2015 03:02 Tictock wrote: I mean... maybe, but then I'd have to accept that Vivax plays this terribly as town. I don't think he does. Or it's just that Vivax is mafia and they won't kill their teammate kus that'd be against mafia win con. TBH if vivax is mafia, they could of kill someone else then Koshi, and lynch Koshi. Boom easy win con. It is why i do not think he is scum Also you like doing scum! mid sentence when you call someone scum. It is hell for me to read >_> | ||
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On December 19 2015 10:56 Shapelog wrote: NO MR.TickdeToak BAD BOY FIghtingxz. We Haved To Haive A coNverSation Aboutiy VoBBy. NoW do U! Wantve toh LYCNH! VoBby orKosushishshush? OR shouldwe be More ACcepTing Of otherirses And Likes ConSider Somesoenes Liek Oengus Or tHat KhaN!. IN FACT, I shalz DriVe and Get InFO On They So I can CharGe ThEm WiTH THE DEATHS OF RIKOTY. GOD I MISS THAT GUY! HE WAS SUCH A GOOD FAtherZs I Getz baCk toO yoU aFter The Drive. WAIT FOR ME MR. TIckDeToak! [QUOTE]On December 19 2015 13:09 Shapelog wrote: I HaTe Myyyyyy LifE. WaS TyPing Brillllenrt ResPond ON WhO WaAS ScUm. THeN PagE ReLoaD, LoSt It. Oh Wellllll, Justa PoSt ThE CaSe Torrrmoerrr. Don'T yOU DARE MR> TICKDLATOLK TO SKIP AHEAD![/QUOTE] + Show Spoiler + As it clearly shows........ | ||
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TT.....are you still drunk? P.S. i feel your friend. I have anxiety disorder (along with my list of mental problems.) And i lost my dog like 2 mouths ago | ||
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You lied about my case. You can make out at the time what i was talking to you about. About a vobby or a Koshi lynch. And that i would "drive their filters and press them with the charges of rik death." I am pretty sure you are scum, and pulled up the second one just to help your case. | ||
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[QUOTE]On December 21 2015 03:34 Shapelog wrote: Ummmm think i was asking you your options on todays lynch. [QUOTE]On December 19 2015 10:56 Shapelog wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2015 08:49 Tictock wrote: I thought about this randomly and decided it would be fun. ##Donte 5 posts to Koshi Fight me bro. No more handouts from me.[/QUOTE] NO MR.TickdeToak BAD BOY FIghtingxz. We Haved To Haive A coNverSation Aboutiy VoBBy. NoW do U! Wantve toh LYCNH! VoBby orKosushishshush? OR shouldwe be More ACcepTing Of otherirses And Likes ConSider Somesoenes Liek Oengus Or tHat KhaN!. IN FACT, I shalz DriVe and Get InFO On They So I can CharGe ThEm WiTH THE DEATHS OF RIKOTY. GOD I MISS THAT GUY! HE WAS SUCH A GOOD FAtherZs I Getz baCk toO yoU aFter The Drive. WAIT FOR ME MR. TIckDeToak![/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On December 19 2015 13:09 Shapelog wrote: I HaTe Myyyyyy LifE. WaS TyPing Brillllenrt ResPond ON WhO WaAS ScUm. THeN PagE ReLoaD, LoSt It. Oh Wellllll, Justa PoSt ThE CaSe Torrrmoerrr. Don'T yOU DARE MR> TICKDLATOLK TO SKIP AHEAD![/QUOTE] + Show Spoiler + As it clearly shows........ Lol what is clear about this post? You mention that you had a brilliant case on who was scum, but lost it. If it wasn't the one you posted on me today, who was it on? The fact that you mentioned my name makes me think you were writing it about me, but tbh I have no idea what you are saying to or about me here.[/QUOTE] We Haved To Haive A coNverSation Aboutiy VoBBy. NoW do U! Wantve toh LYCNH! VoBby orKosushishshush Your name is mentioned before this. And Likes ConSider Somesoenes Liek Oengus Or tHat KhaN!. IN FACT, I shalz DriVe and Get InFO On They So I can CharGe ThEm WiTH THE DEATHS OF RIKOTY. Clearly shows who the hell i am talking about Don'T yOU DARE MR> TICKDLATOLK TO SKIP AHEAD | ||
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Eh u might not get Night-Killed ##Vote:Tictock | ||
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*Role Playing* And now the soldiers, Rallied by Clara and Fitzs, Charge the Rats, And quick they go, Into the Floor boards, Now covered in blood. With a sigh of relief, And a gasp of air, The soldiers had protected the town, And the nutcracker and clara, Married together (i do not remember how it goes), And had a wooden Child, Who was named Tictock, after the child, Who lead to the rats defeat. And Fin | ||
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So today we dedicate to finding last scum...... I think it is Onegu. Wbu? | ||
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Could be what i was talking about with Vivax busing a Team mate but i doubt it this time . | ||
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On December 19 2015 17:11 Sukrit wrote: Lynch Koshi then Shape, then Damdred then win I remember this post. Wrong, Wrong, And Wrong. On December 19 2015 17:12 Sukrit wrote: Thank onegu postgame Thanks Onegu... I do not even have to wait till postgame. Onegu seems like a cool dude. | ||
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On December 23 2015 08:36 Tictock wrote: Shape proved me right btw. Nobody in their right mind tracks me N2 ^.^ Got so lucky. Btw Shape I didn't copy you on the Rit tinfoil, we each got there on our own. Eh beginners/Drunken luck. "I am up all night to get lucky" "I'm up all night to get lucky "Weeee came so far" "To the Starrrrs" "TT ups all night for good fuck" "I am up all night for good fun" And Alright, it wasn't copyrighted anyways. I am not mad Tinfoil Buddy (pssst u should coach New student mafia if ur not busy ) | ||
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NO! NO! NOT THAT GOD DAMMIT! SUPPOSE TO BE GOOD FUN! GOD DAMMIT! OH GOD..........I HATE FUCKING AUTOCORRECT  | ||
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On December 23 2015 08:50 Damdred wrote: Anyway onegu and Tt should do the right thing and just concede Conceding is for non believers. That is why i GG in sc2 | ||
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On December 23 2015 09:01 Tictock wrote: Man, and I didn't even get a chance to argue that it was insane for me to be scum and not take the chance at claiming a role or candy to explain my visit to Kush. Yeah that was what i figured u were doing. Claim the role that has the least amount of chance of u being. | ||
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On December 23 2015 10:48 LightningStrike wrote: I sorry that I killed the day early but I really wanted to clear Shape and have us look for the last scum. Nah, Though it would be funny to see TT try to hard defend and you come in and just ruin it. So TS and Onegu. The latter is prob. mafia. Though i would like to read their filters and see how they interacted with TT and Vivax. That Onegu/Vivax dumbtell though | ||
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Do they get a big form to fill out? If not then if i ever host a game i make mafia fill out a pointless form. | ||
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On December 23 2015 11:00 Sukrit wrote: Damdred is final mafia. ##Vote: Ticktock Lol....Still holding on onto the Koshi/Shape/Damdred team huh? I guess Two wrongs does make a right............ Oh wait, Damdred was checked against Koshi and they came up the same alignment :O How shocking! I mean Onegu read the thread before you just post something that makes no sense. It will help your scum game. | ||
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On December 23 2015 11:12 LightningStrike wrote: To be fair there is a chance of a gf hence why I just pretty much am a named VT after this lynch. But I have more reasons to townread Damdred than anyone else. Mainly meta and tone though because I had played a good amount of games with Damdred. Oh yeah your right. Damdred could be mafia, But he has been going against TT and Onegu and TS to a degree so i doubt it. That said he also agreed with me about Vivax being easy mislynch. Idk i read his filter too, but right now he is at the bottom of the possible scum list TBH either me or you are dieing tonight. Hey can we BM mafia to conceding? | ||
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On December 23 2015 11:13 LightningStrike wrote: And ofc you shape being confirmed town because tictock pretty much claimed scum after my check. This saddens me greatly. | ||
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On December 23 2015 12:06 Damdred wrote: Yeah its true I could be possible mafia in this situation. But I was onto vivax early soon as o was unbusy. I was really bm which points to town damdred by the rsoultin metric. And onegu is just a fucking idiot if he thinks I'm going to be ml in tripple lylo. Anyway its just as likely ts as it is oneg. Also I didn't agree with you vivax was an easy mislynch. I said I think both are scum *sigh* there is that name again. I swear someone should make a term analogy thread for mafia. So newbies know the slang. Hell i might do this..... Yeah just send me (after game ofc) any terminology and with permission i will write a guide to it. Would help newbies like me. Could u explain to me what that metric is? | ||
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On December 23 2015 12:23 LightningStrike wrote: That could get you modkilled as far as I'm concerned. And suddenly I am Painting very happy trees and rocks with Bob Ross ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SLHFZkx.jpg) | ||
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On December 23 2015 12:29 LightningStrike wrote: Tina(rsoultin) is Damdred's Waifu who have her own way of reading Damdred. Alright makes sense. So according to Onegu i am/was Damdred Waifu......... Not sure how i feel about that haha | ||
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On December 23 2015 12:29 Sukrit wrote: There is 100% a godfather this game. Damdred is that GF Did u stop reading his posts? If not your not doing it hard enough. | ||
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Haha If you would of shot Vivax you would of been in a much better spot TS | ||
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Lol, Shape's drunk posting makes almost no sense at all. Idk, I kind awant to leave him alive... But then I wonder if this is a play to make us think just that... Gah I'm bad at deciding NK's right now. I'll get back to this later. I love My wine | ||
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On December 23 2015 14:08 ritoky wrote: shape my big piece of advice to you is that you really need to focus your thoughts and lower the unprovoked paranoia or you will be a D1/early game ML candidate a lot. you can't be THAT all over the place as town. Yeah i suffer from anxiety disorder and just got meds Today ^_^ Should help like ten fold with tinfoil Thanks Rik On December 23 2015 14:09 Half the Sky wrote: I can understand the decision(s) to concede or not. It was their decision. Personally I think they had a decent shot but their perception was unlikely based on (I think?) Onegu? But I'll let Tubesock elaborate if he wishes. The holidays were part of it for what I could tell but not all of it. I know Shapelog had misinterpreted the mechanics behind his role, and one thing I will stress to you as you proceed to the newbie game - do ask your coach to look at this filter and give you pointers. I think consolidation of points and getting to the point sometimes might help you make some of your arguments, I think some of the townies (at least those in obs qt) were beginning to tune out. To be quite fair, you did quite fine for your first game as forum mafia - some of the veterans in obs said you sandbagged your role but I think early on you made yourself quite unlynchable, so good on you there. I hope you enjoyed your first game on TL and I look forward to seeing you around a few more games. Thanks Sky, will take note into next game. | ||
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And filter size, Damm 19 fucking pages in 3 and 1/4 days. Dear Lord. | ||
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On December 23 2015 14:56 Tubesock wrote: I even quoted it for you in thread during the game! Where you asked why was I saying it's towny to be confusing. Which I thought I explained. I was joking........ God Forums suck for sarcasm | ||
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I feel like a whore. | ||
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On December 23 2015 15:16 Tubesock wrote: Ha! This was a kinda lurker game. Internet needs a sarcasm font. Noted | ||
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