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On May 18 2013 10:14 GiygaS wrote: this was my first game back in a whiiiiiiiile (won't be that long for the next one though) Well that worked out well. Whatever, giggles reporting for duty /in | ||
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On December 14 2015 10:30 Damdred wrote: Let me tell you why you are totally wrong in how you are approaching koshi. 1) you say that koshi is going to be super lazy and you are content voting him because that's his scum meta. In actuality you are right about his meta but dead wrong in your interpretation of what koshi said. If you read koshis post he clearly states he's going to focus on building cases and finding mafia. A clearly different thing especially since generally cases take a decent bit of effort which scum koshi lacks. Koshi then immediately back tracked by saying that his posts were going to be low content and possibly trash. How is his interpretation of that wrong? | ||
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On December 14 2015 17:03 Tictock wrote: Not sure why you are fixated on Damdred. Do you have any thoughts on how LS (or anyone else) reacted to Damdred's claim? Whats your opinion oh Shape? Not particularly fixated on Damdred, after my first post I reread thread again and noticed that his point seemed off despite a lot of people going with it. Reading over the miller claim situation again, I'm being an idiot and it was an obvious joke that I missed. LS obviously understood. Shape on the other hand took it as a calculated move on the mafia's part, which he's now abandoned. Seems to be going back and forth on a ton of theories with a sort of reckless abandon. Makes me lean town on him, and makes sense with his long stretch of no sleep. I still want to see what kind of posts he makes once he's more awake though. Speaking of sleep... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . | ||
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On December 14 2015 22:57 Shapelog wrote: When Giyga posts two questions about him, TT becomes defensive and ask why Giyga was fixated on Damred. Kinda of a weird thing to do this early. I would of seen how my town lean would of reacted to the questions and then go on from there. Instead, he loses this chance and deters Giyga from Damred for the time being. This is only true if I was that focused on Damdred in the first place. The first was only because I was initially confused why he posted the miller claim. The second was because I just didn't agree with his reasoning and wanted to point it out, it wasn't because I had a scum read on him. I'll reread tt filter and see, but all I have is null or town reads on everyone, except a tiny lean on Koshi from meta that I haven't even experienced.  | ||
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Sidenote: since everyone will inevitably do so by end of game, just call me giggles | ||
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He's swapped back to null for me, will look over more when I get home from studying. | ||
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On December 15 2015 10:36 Koshi wrote: I got to go to sleep. I don't understand how it became 2:30am. Anybody has any meta on GaygiS? Anybody played with him before? He seems a bit lackluster here. He misread the situation about the miller thing, he is trying to force us to call him giggles, he misread the "cause" "kus" thing, probably because he gets annoyed himself when his name is spelled wrong. Poor guy. Last game I played here (I think LXI?, it was 2 years ago), name was consistently misspelled. Everyone eventually just called me Giggles, so I just wanted to cut to the chase -.- Only one in that game was kush. Other games were far longer ago | ||
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For the record, my name has been spelled 9 different ways, so that's pretty neat. Also, these posts :D On December 14 2015 13:40 Sukrit wrote: Onegu hacked ritokys' account?^ On December 14 2015 23:28 Koshi wrote: No. This Onegu I could fall in love with. Therefore, if this would be Onegu I would kill Onegu for being Onegu in the past. I love this new meta of mine with all these content rich posts. | ||
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On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote: I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier. Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Here is his filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads. I think this guy is scum. ##Vote LightningStrike There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him. It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about. | ||
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Pretty comfortable with this now after looking at filters. Heading to bed now | ||
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Clearly I made a mistake reading LS's filter going over it again (I honestly don't know where), so going to unvote rels and put my vote back on tt. ##unvote ##vote tictock | ||
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On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote: too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me. shape is town kush is probably town not interested in lynching koshi not interested in lynching damdred not interested in lynching rels no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment tt is probably mafia gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit every1 else is nai or unremarkable ##vote: glowingbear i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. | ||
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On December 16 2015 11:26 Tictock wrote: I'm probably going to reread Damdred if he's not back at it D2, but I think his shenannies on Vivax were a good idea poorly executed. I also hope Kush is able to give this game some effort now that he's got some time. Tube is totally null to me, I almost forgot he was in this game. I think Rit should be my first reread but my initial feeling is that his EoD lacked the bluster of some of his earlier posts and I think he's overreacting to Damdred's shenanigans, especially when GB was one of his scumreads. How in the world is a vote change to someone with no votes with very little time left a good idea with poor execution. It is a braindead move. | ||
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On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Kushm4sta knowing his alignment helps me think more about Rels. Associative reads BAD mmmkay. Could you elaborate TS? | ||
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General themes of his play are large bodies of text that end up saying <= 1 thing. Most content he's put out is elaborate recaps or joking around. He's posted a few list posts but I'll go in to why those are not very good either. On December 15 2015 10:30 Shapelog wrote: Sure. At least i can try too. I do it in a list too. I love lists for the most part. GigyaS: Null for the most part. Waiting for him to get back from studying and what not. The few posts he has posted have been decent (more towards the begaining of the day.) Still waiting for his response about me (i'm selfish) (nvm TT responded) Koshi: Improved, I wouldn't mind putting him as town atm. Hasn't done anything scummy (some light stuff at the beginning, but that about it.) But i think he should build a circle of love. Rels: I gotten a Town vibe from him, But not enough really. His LS push felt townie since for the most part it was out the window. Gotten to read D1 from dark tourney, not sure 100% yet about the whole thing yet. Tubesock: 2 posts, but 1st post was ok. Waiting to see more. GB: No Clue Vivax: MIA Surkit: Aggressive, pushes for little to no reasons. Getting a scummy feel off of him. Also involves Koshi when i point him out about TT and how I didn't push Koshi when he did and what not. I mean he's ping ponging from person from person, never really staying on a person except Koshi. Now is on me. Would be in head for 1st day lynch. Kush: Null for now. Pretty sure GB said he was scummy; Don't agree with GB but i not defending Kush. Shapelog: About to get drunk for no good reason. TT: Don't really have a full blown case on him. wished he didn't defend damred earlier on but still. Seems concern about the game. Kinda had a scummy lean/feel on him, mostly from my gut. Gut is where my shit is, so this may be shit. Ritoky: Called me town, defended(ish) me as town. Then left. Do not know why he is doing this. I mean i like it sense I am town. Maybe he really likes my plays or something, idc/idk. LS: Town vibe, rereading dark tourment. Rels did bring a good point thou. However, still like his early game and his jokingness. Also Yelling about voting seems about right. Damred: Null leaning town, most posts are NAI but time is telling. Mostly i'm just waiting. except for Surkit. Shall rethink in shower Overall, a pointless post. Pretty much all null reads, but there's a slight contradiction in that he has a town lean on Damdred but wishes TT didn't defend him earlier (referring to my two posts asking questions that weren't because of suspicions at Damdred). On December 16 2015 02:45 Shapelog wrote: (damm i didn't know tab enters text lol) But I left this off from far fetch theory: At ##342, he said i was confirmed town. Not maybe, or very, Confirmed. Does this not bother anyone. I mean idk why i fighting against this so hard. But then again, everyone said I was town/thought i was townish at the beginning and i just went on posting garbage tbh. I haven't posted anything uber townie. But he ranks me higher then Koshi? Weird. Then when someone asks why he is defending me, its "next level thinking" response. Why not explain what so next level about it? Why is that only convinced thought? That derps is Town and not NAI? I mean i love the free town read, but it suspicious to me. This was the post he was referring to: + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote: too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me. shape is town kush is probably town not interested in lynching koshi not interested in lynching damdred not interested in lynching rels no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment tt is probably mafia gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit every1 else is nai or unremarkable ##vote: glowingbear i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. As you can see, no confirmed anywhere in that sentence. I pointed out earlier and he blames this on a misread of the situation and quickly backs off. Then he posts this crazy elaborate theory that he then debunks in the same post, posts it anyway, and keeps Rit under his scum leans anyway. It just feels weird that twice now he's come up for reasons to lynch the same person for awful reasons, both of which he hides under calling them far-fetched theories in the same post that he puts them up. To me, it is at worst a scummate trying to bus a teammate for credit, or at best someone trying to appear active by posting theories that end up saying nothing by the end of the same post. And then we get his thoughts on around GB/kush: #450/451, doesn't feel good about kush or TT lynch, likes the idea of offing GB for inactivity + Show Spoiler + On December 16 2015 03:16 Shapelog wrote: I only feel good about GB. inactive for the most part, and anyone can get drunk. But not always at the right time. Seemed he entered when it was beneficial. On December 16 2015 03:20 Shapelog wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2015 23:01 GlowingBear wrote: I've seen nothing suspicious and worth of contributing. I won't force a read I don't have. What I do have is a town read on shapelog, he seems fairly townie to me because he drops every single thought he has on the thread, and a lot of them are paranoia, which looks townie. Other than that, nothing seems really relevant. I will do a re read once I can, but today I work until deadline. Let's see if I will be able This feels weird. Its like, "I have nothing and that's about it". He comments on me, then states he won't be here. It's almost like he skating by. Might be work, but if I say that everytime no one is getting lynched lol. Interested to see what happens when he rereads. #469 Votes TT (first contradiction). Reasoning is just parroting. Notable quote: "I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't" (If 18 posts his opinion on TT was changed) + Show Spoiler + On December 16 2015 04:18 Shapelog wrote: Then lets fix this. We have a TT which is different from Haunted mafia. Onegu had a post about TT awhile ago. Koshi asked GB his ideas about TT. He seems different from it too IMO. I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't ##Vote Ticktock And who knows Koshi. With step-up being random, someone might be Sugar fairy and heal. #541/542 Scum list now in order is kush, tt at the top. He's pulled a comeplete 180 in his scum-list, and for seemingly no reason other than sheeping. Mentions "Oh yeah and GB  " in next post, but somehow he's dropped to position 5, underneath Rit. Please remember that this is between far-fetched theory #1 and far-fetched-theory #2, and before GB comes back at 551, so "he became more active" is not an excuse.+ Show Spoiler + On December 16 2015 06:44 Shapelog wrote: Right now i'm tore on TT. One hand i want to lynch him because earlier stuff. On the other hand, these last minute posts kinda influenced me. Might lynch someone else to see his D2 and go from there. Right now my lynch list (from high to low): Kush (nothing from him), TT and damred, Rit? On December 16 2015 06:44 Shapelog wrote: Oh yeah and GB 582é613 wants to lynch kush because he's a lurker. Has reasons for others, but kush is at the top of the list, purely for lurking. He explains this later saying that it's because of kush's meta, but remember this in a second. + Show Spoiler + On December 16 2015 06:59 Shapelog wrote: Alright everyone we were going to lynch showed up except Kush. TT + Show Spoiler + I am not confinde in him yet. I unvoted so i could hear his agurment against Rik. Not sure about him, i been having a scummy/null feeling about him. His posts when he came back i admit feels rushed, But might be because he felt pressure from lynch? idk, but he starting to look like he did in Haunted mason Damred + Show Spoiler + RL stuff, Want Bomb GB + Show Spoiler + Again RL stuff. However, weaker case vs Damred because he had sunday to post and his posts seems lackluster. Might just be him on D1 who knows I say if Kush doesn't come we lynch him On December 16 2015 07:29 Shapelog wrote: Well something came up so i won't be here till 8 ish. ##Vote:Kush Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me. And now he thinks kush is scum because he has a "gut hard read" that he's scum. Completely abandoning his prior reasoning. Anyway, I'm off to the library so I'll be around on mobile for 30 minutes, then I'll be gone until at least EoN. | ||
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Also @Tubesock can you explain what you meant here? I just don't understand what you were trying to say. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FoJshLKh.jpg) I have an exam in less than 8 hours so I'm going to sleep now. Read the tt wall, despite it not really giving a conclusion, it did give us a look in to his thought process. Towncred to him imo, the fact he wasn't very conclusive leads me to believe he's being honest about just not knowing rather than purposefully deceitful. | ||
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On December 18 2015 14:02 Tictock wrote: I know Gig says he's busy for a couple more days due to finals but I can't help but feel like it's an excuse since he's basically said he has no reads besides thinking I'm scum for stuff Rit said. Since I seem to be one of the minority concerned about Gig I suppose I'm ok giving him another day. Still if he pulls a Scott here I might get somewhat unbearable later. Reason I posted the exam schedule post. Was pissed off people were thinking I was lying about an irl thing. A lot less pissed now after reading it again but that set me off for some reason. | ||
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On December 18 2015 17:08 Tubesock wrote: @GiygaS First, your filter isn't very clear on Rels. What do you think. More importantly are you going to vote him? With recent developments, Reps then TT then shape is scum list. I want to read post morning exam and decide based on that before I vote though. On December 18 2015 17:08 Tubesock wrote:Secondly FYI I think this is actually the post that Shapelog was refering to as his "confirmed" town post. No, Ritoky didn't say the magic word, and confirmed usually means it's true for the entire playerbase, but to Ritoky Shapelog is "confirmed". I think that is where Shape got that from. It wasn't the list post that you quoted. I don't think it's a big point of yours, but if it is, it is wrong. Nope, shape mentions the post I was talking about by name as the post that named him confirmed town. You should actually read my post. On December 18 2015 17:08 Tubesock wrote: I'm reading that as you meant "Still have him as scum but..." But I would like to know if anything has changed. I understand you are pressed for time. I would rather talk about your Rels vote, but you seem more interested in Shape. I guess TT also. I have you in my grey area. So, let's talk about something. Your top 3 vote candidates perhaps? See above | ||
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- General confidence early game about townreads - He goes from sure on me being scum (for a very bizarre reason but still very sure) to very confident I'm town because I backed off of two things, said I don't have any scumreads and gave him links to my previous game. He later states that he got a townread on me because it doesn't seem I'm on a team for the above reasons but ehhh. - He's getting on Damdred for his EoD1 move, but hasn't brought up TT at all in that respect. He also simultaneously thinks kush is town, which is said so many times doesn't matter. Let's go over his reasons why Damdred did what he did from a mafia perspective (thoughts in bold): On December 18 2015 10:30 Koshi wrote: 1) pretend to care about the lynch This could equally be town or mafia. 2) put suspicion on saved person. This is possible, but he would have to think that this puts a ton of suspicion on himself as well. 3) save teammate But you think kush is town. His move wouldn't have even saved kush unless TT hammered 4) wifom in every shape or form So it's a null read 5) yolo plays to look town So it's a null read 5 different reasons why mafia could do it. There are kore and some can be split up further. I am sleeping 0229 Everybody who townreads damdred is a bad player. So his move is either a null read or he's going for a very high-risk low-reward play at EoD. - Calls GB town because he seems like a carefree town. Then swaps after drunk posts from GB that don't mean anything (these were only the only posts between tr->sr from GB). - Reason he moved from TT to GB: because TT was posting (not backing off his scum tell), and GB was a liability. This seems like a bs reason abandon his TT lynch. During this swap, he moved GB to scum read, but he voted GB not because he had a scumread, but because GB was a liability. - Had TT as a town read the next day because "There is no fucking way mafia!TT decided to be so active before the lynch and then made that ritoky is mafia case right before they shot ritoky." Later on the page he admits this is a wifom null read, and has very good reasons to scumread TT. So then why did he list him as town? - points sukrit/onegu already brought up Going to read through tt and then ls next. When I was reading through kush he seemed to bring up some good points. I don't like the Rels case at all right now, seems mostly based on Shape tinfoil team theories and general misinformation. | ||
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On December 19 2015 05:49 GiygaS wrote: - He's getting on Damdred for his EoD1 move, but hasn't brought up TT at all in that respect Going to read through tt and then ls next. When I was reading through kush he seemed to bring up some good points. I don't like the Rels case at all right now, seems mostly based on Shape tinfoil team theories and general misinformation. Retracting these pieces of information after further reading. Going to go over all of the Rels/Damdred stuff one more time before I move on. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:14 Koshi wrote: I don't even know how I could be mafia. I have a null read on you for reasons above. You are not the priority to lynch right now though in my eyes. | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:17 Tubesock wrote: Have you read any post this game? Seriously. I have, and I have good ideas of both overall cases, but I'm trying to seriously evaluate them and I don't want to miss anything. | ||
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- He makes meta case on LS - I make a post about it - He reads through the thread (the infamous caps post), then makes post saying LS is town - OMGUS' on me Ugh, I've been so fucking wishywashy with this, but I'm going to vote Rels ##Vote Rels | ||
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On December 19 2015 06:41 Tictock wrote: I'd like to check this, which posts are you referring to? #269 On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote: I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier. Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Here is his filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads. I think this guy is scum. ##Vote LightningStrike #357 On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote: Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post: There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him. It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about. #369 373 On December 15 2015 18:14 Rels wrote: Here is the content LS produced between my question and my accution in those 9 hours, excluding the posts that answer to me: You dirty liar. ##Vote GiygaS | ||
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On December 14 2015 22:57 Shapelog wrote: Wait till you see drunken shapelog. Shit will hit the fan if i decide to get drunk while playing  .The prophecy has been fulfilled. | ||
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On December 20 2015 11:59 Tictock wrote: [/center]Oh wow n/m I fail at reading, just saw Kush when I glanced at this first. ... Uhh, well then this is shit for us then. 5/3 Sorry Koshi. >.< TT so town now it hurts. Packing my life to move for an internship so I won't be around tonight, but bought TL+ so I can archive all the filters and such for my flight tomorrow. | ||
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- TT is blue (Doubt there's two trackers, and it cant be doc or jailer so either rb, or detective) - TT is mafia (i.e. he used KP) - TT is wanderer (i.e. Chocolate) - TT got a gift of gun and used it on kush (NAI, very unlikely not even going to bother) - TT got a non gun gift and used it on kush (NAI) Note that these most likely won't add up to 1 since we're ignoring/fubbing a bunch of things. This is incredibly shady math and I hate myself for doing it, but it's better than the one above so I'll make the sacrifice. Let's say there were 2-3 blue roles in the game. Save you, that means there's 1-2 left. We'll add an additional multiplier based on the specific blue role he had to get (1/4 since we'll ignore tracker). We'll also assume that if he is blue he purposefully visited kush. P(TT is blue) = 0.03125 - 0.0625 Now we know there are 3 mafia. Then the chance mafia chose him to use kp is 1/3. (Assuming the mafia wanted to kill kush) P(TT is mafia) = 0.125 With our assumption of 1-2 Blue, and 3 mafia. There are 3-4 greens left. Additionally apply odds of him getting chocolate (we'll say 1/4 again) and of him visiting kush (1/9). P(TT is chocolate) = 0.01042 - 0.01389 We'll say there were 2-3 gifts handed out in general (out of the 13 players). For our purposes, the gifts that apply here are rolecheck, watcher, and visiting the person who gets nightkilled (this one is important). For the first two, odds are 1/9 he would visit kush. For the third, odds of him visiting kush would be 100%. P(TT got a non-gun gift and used it on kush) = 0.02686 - 0.040293 Sum range: 0.19353 - 0.241683 "Actual" probability (just much closer) of each: - TT is blue (Doubt there's two trackers, and it cant be doc or jailer so either rb, or detective) 12.9% - 32.3% - TT is mafia (i.e. he used KP) 51.7% - 64.6% - TT is wanderer (i.e. Chocolate) 4.3% - 7.2% - TT got a gift of gun and used it on kush (NAI, very unlikely he wouldn't shoot vivax. Not even going to bother) ~0% - TT got a non gun gift and used it on kush (NAI) 11.1% - 20.8% Again, these are very rough, but closer. Sleep time. | ||
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On December 21 2015 00:37 Shapelog wrote: Giygas Khan is more and more like Khan everyday. The real Khan built schools and educated the mongrels. Now we find out that he has a math degree. Just waiting for the Mongolian horde and for him to reveal that he has "rape" (some was rape, others did it actually to survive) people. Wtf man. Wtf | ||
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Town (in order) Shape Tube Scum (in order) Vivax Tt Null (in order of scumminess) Damdred LS Sukrit ##Vote Vivax | ||
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Also, Shape's deciphered post: + Show Spoiler + Yes, I am Rsoultin Or Am I? A course not, I can not believe you think i am a Rsoultin Smurf. I am Palmar Who is a Wander. Honestly why do you think I am a Smurf. LOL BeSt Idea! Speak only in Caesar Cipher for the rest of the game. THAT WOULD BE SO ANNOYING HAHA. I do not like you Onegu. But chance are your either town or mafia at this point. Your a Wildcard and i got to see a scum flip before i can even really make a case for your towniness or your mafianess. I wonder if you did the decryption yourself, Or you waited until someone saw that it was a Caesar Cipher. TT prob. did it and posted it. "But chance are your either town or mafia at this point" - the reads made here are incredible. | ||
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Just the odds surrounding your claim after I thought about it again. | ||
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On December 23 2015 04:31 LightningStrike wrote: giy if you have a gun to your head who would be the 3rd scum and why? Probably Damdred but I'm not confident in that at all | ||
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On December 23 2015 05:07 LightningStrike wrote: Any reason why? I have him as town atm. The last minute vote switch to Vivax D1 just seems too convenient. | ||
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