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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 20:12 GMT
#2441
For example you could explain your TR on LightningStrike.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 20:18 GMT
#2442
Or you could point out what you don't like about this stuff:

On December 12 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:
Hey guys I found this thing lying around in BH's bedroom! Apparently it's some kind of guide to win this game! Awesome right ? Let me transcript it for you: I hope he doesn't remark I took it ...

Townie guide to winning this game

Step 1: Required reading

disfo's case on DYH
FF's interactions with DYH are partner indicative
DYH's scumread of disfo has no basis: he voted him on an "initial insctinct" which doesn't exist
Part 2 of the thing above

Step 2: Vote DYH

Step 3: Lynch DYH

Step 4: Win

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 20:26 GMT
#2445
On December 14 2015 05:20 DoYouHas wrote:
So I am your pick disfo? or is LS? or are you trying to attack shining instead of genuinely pushing a better lynch.


I want The Shining to work with me and explain his reads a bit better.
Yeah, currently it is:
DYH > LS > NM > TS > Me
In terms of scumminess, but I am having a bit of hard time in reading LS, which gives me a bit of a pause.

On December 14 2015 05:22 DoYouHas wrote:
Like, if you agree with your own case and all the things Rels posted against me, why are you hesitating?


Fair enough. As per my current order of scumminess lets vote you.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 20:55 GMT
#2448
On December 14 2015 05:42 The Shining wrote:
Which is more likely? NM bussing his RB with a possible vet in the game? Or a scumread Disfo hammering FF after seeing the votes minutes before EoD and panicking about not lynching scum twice? He NEEDED to bus FF, or it would've been two scum lynches he wasn't on, on top of being scumread.


Oh, that one gave me a nice idea...
Scum knew that there could not be a possible vet in this game after the boxer flip.

Possible setups:
A: 1-shot cop, 1-shot vigi, 8x VT, Goon, GF, RB
B: 1-shot cop, BoxeR, 8x VT, Goon, Goon, RB
C: 1-shot vigi, BoxeR, 8x VT, Goon, Goon, RB
D: Veteran, BoxeR, 8x VT, Goon, GF, RB
[/QUOTE]

Boxer flip leaves 3 possible setups.
Since the Vigi flip we know it is Setup C with Goon, Goon, RB. The possible setup with the Vet would have been Goon, GF, RB. Meaning after the boxer flip scum knew it was B or C since they at least had to know their roles. No vet possible. Which should make it a bunch easier to bus the RB early...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 21:04 GMT
#2452
On December 14 2015 06:00 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 05:55 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 05:42 The Shining wrote:
Which is more likely? NM bussing his RB with a possible vet in the game? Or a scumread Disfo hammering FF after seeing the votes minutes before EoD and panicking about not lynching scum twice? He NEEDED to bus FF, or it would've been two scum lynches he wasn't on, on top of being scumread.


Oh, that one gave me a nice idea...
Scum knew that there could not be a possible vet in this game after the boxer flip.

Possible setups:
A: 1-shot cop, 1-shot vigi, 8x VT, Goon, GF, RB
B: 1-shot cop, BoxeR, 8x VT, Goon, Goon, RB
C: 1-shot vigi, BoxeR, 8x VT, Goon, Goon, RB
D: Veteran, BoxeR, 8x VT, Goon, GF, RB


Boxer flip leaves 3 possible setups.
Since the Vigi flip we know it is Setup C with Goon, Goon, RB. The possible setup with the Vet would have been Goon, GF, RB. Meaning after the boxer flip scum knew it was B or C since they at least had to know their roles. No vet possible. Which should make it a bunch easier to bus the RB early...


Thanks for the slip. Everyone should go vote Disfo now.

Scum had a Goon and RB flip. There is no way for any other town to know whether the 3rd scum was a goon or GF. Vig didn't flip until the NK last night.

Even if scum knows their roles, we only know the goon and RB flipped. You just implied there is a GF. After the boxer flip, even if scum knew their own roles, you shouldn't.[/QUOTE]

No clue what you are talking about here. There are 4 possible setups. We had a Boxer and a vigi flip. which 100% means it is setup C.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#2455
On December 14 2015 06:08 The Shining wrote:
See my last post. I didn't actually realize what setup it was or that the Vig flip confirmed it. But you're so aware of it. As if it was discussed in a Mafia QT =D

So now you're saying NM is scum and bussed then? Because even if scum would know its B or C after the Boxer flip, without having a GF, bussing an RB when they could block a possible red check or Vig shot is still not the most optimal play. Especially since without the Vig flip at that point, they wouldn't know if there's a cop or not.

Bussing a goon when you're under suspicion is still a likely play.


Yeah, sure I've discussed that with HtS over a game of Dota and while drinking a bottle of whiskey.
+ Show Spoiler +
not serious here


More likely DYH with his super early case for max cred. Can't completely rule out a NM bus, but the rest of his filter looks much more town to me than DYH's.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 21:28 GMT
#2461
On December 14 2015 06:18 The Shining wrote:
The fact also stands that the things and reasons you found to vote FF were there the entire day phase, but you made these reasons minutes before EoD after the lynch on FF was being pushed and they were the same reasons you thought he was lazy town. And you didn't even say you were sheeping Trfel or me. It's as if you wanted to portray you had original thoughts to vote FF to have a reason to be on the wagon but you blamed his laziness and Fallout 4 excuse.

Disfo says "oh crap remember FF entrance? I was suspicious of him cuz he was always doing stuff and quite lazy like last game" but he wasn't suspicious of him. He towned him for these reasons. It took until right before EoD when the lynch started for Disfo to use these same reasons he towned him as the reason why he was voting him.


Eh, there might be a typo in your stuff. Le me try to explain my FF stuff again:

I had a town lean on FF for being lazy like he was in the last game, right.
But at the beginning FF wasn't lazy, he actually came into the thread doing a bit of work/converstation/whatever, before the Fallout 4 excuses. Which had me a bit worried, but then he started being super lazy. So I go "It is an older code, but it checks out. I hope I can interact a bit with him like last game to clear that up."

I hadn't really looked at him D3, cause I was trying to make sense of Trfel and DYH and stuff. So when ppl mentioned FF I was like "huh, let's look at his filter again". And then I remembered/realized that like the first page of his filter didn't look like lazy FF at all. But since only a few mins where left I wasn't willing to type up a huge wall and opted to get my vote in b4 deadline.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 21:33 GMT
#2463
Ah fine. If you guys really want to see my name in green, lynch me.
I was hoping I could keep my not-getting-misslynched streak alive, but I feel this won't happen at this point.

If you guys manage to ruin both my not-getting-misslynched and my town winning streak I am going to throw even more angry walls at you post game.

Could you at least do me a favour and take some reaction selfies on reading my name in green and post them post game?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 21:38 GMT
#2464
On December 14 2015 06:26 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 06:14 The Shining wrote:
I love Monday Tuesday phases. /sarcasm
Phone posting. I still want to lynch ff or disfo, honestly. FF taking the cheap sheep route is bad. And disfos posts just aren't feeling like the town disfo I played with before. Weak meta reads because I don't have time to filter but I really do feel I'm right on at least one of these, probably disfo.

I liked DYHs points on hts association, too, I've made similar cases over weird interactions and reads between scummates before. I wish he hadn't backed down on it.

NM Rels Trfel and DYH are town pile. Fidei doesn't feel as bad to me anymore. Voting disfo or ff.


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On December 09 2015 07:33 The Shining wrote:
On December 09 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Change of assumptions.

I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.

And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.

I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts?


I actually like this train of thought, too, and it's one of the reasons that I want to lynch ff. Like I see what are in my opinion a lot of town on town interactions and the ones not weighing in on it are not doing so because they want town to bury themselves


Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 07:56 The Shining wrote:
Honestly I'm voting fecal and I think I should be sheeped regardless of those not TRing trfel. It was also brought up that ppl don't want to take LS to lylo

Why would you want to take ff to lylo then?


How is it possible Disfo could have 0 reactions to any of these posts then pull this off?

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 07:58 The Shining wrote:
On December 09 2015 07:57 disformation wrote:
Oh crap.
Do you guys remembering FF enter the thread? At first he was like doing a lot of stuff and I was quite suspect because in last game he was ultra lazy. THen suddenly he goes all "lolz fallout 4"?

Voting



He just realizes this now. Tell me again why Disfo is town


Obvious bus is obvious


The last of your posts you quoted here was like 2 mins b4 my vote and was one of the posts prompting me to look at FF's filter again? Sry for double checking posts myself and not blindly sheeping you...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 21:45 GMT
#2465
And I still wanted to lynch DYH before realizing that this won't happen.
And I am not sure what I have should done about this, Rels and me posted several good cases on DYH, but nobody seems to like them. I am not the type that will just yell at ppl until they do what I want or lynch me just to not have me crap up the thread.
Maybe I should just adopt that strategy for my next game or the remainder of this one.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 22:12 GMT
#2467
Yeah, I realized it to late and had not much time to work with. Also slept a bit on FF D3, tbh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 23:10 GMT
#2470
I hope the activity is a bit better tomorrow afternoon/evening. Looking at NM here.
Also, hell yeah, should you feel strange about misslynching me.
On the other hand you might just be trying to distance yourself from the misslynch early, in the case I flip green.
+ Show Spoiler +
And I will flip green very hard
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 13 2015 23:22 GMT
#2472
On December 14 2015 08:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 08:10 disformation wrote:
I hope the activity is a bit better tomorrow afternoon/evening. Looking at NM here.
Also, hell yeah, should you feel strange about misslynching me.
On the other hand you might just be trying to distance yourself from the misslynch early, in the case I flip green.
+ Show Spoiler +
And I will flip green very hard

If you flip green the entire game will become insane trust me.


Well, I was already planning on thrusting y'all down a well and scream "Dis is town!disformation".
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 00:04 GMT
#2474
On December 14 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 08:22 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:10 disformation wrote:
I hope the activity is a bit better tomorrow afternoon/evening. Looking at NM here.
Also, hell yeah, should you feel strange about misslynching me.
On the other hand you might just be trying to distance yourself from the misslynch early, in the case I flip green.
+ Show Spoiler +
And I will flip green very hard

If you flip green the entire game will become insane trust me.


Well, I was already planning on thrusting y'all down a well and scream "Dis is town!disformation".

A well aye? Well to bad you need me to build one


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 01:26 GMT
#2476
On December 14 2015 09:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 09:04 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:22 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:10 disformation wrote:
I hope the activity is a bit better tomorrow afternoon/evening. Looking at NM here.
Also, hell yeah, should you feel strange about misslynching me.
On the other hand you might just be trying to distance yourself from the misslynch early, in the case I flip green.
+ Show Spoiler +
And I will flip green very hard

If you flip green the entire game will become insane trust me.


Well, I was already planning on thrusting y'all down a well and scream "Dis is town!disformation".

A well aye? Well to bad you need me to build one


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Well you win that But it was a illegal well though!


Damn straight. Let me PM kita to add this victory to the TL Mafia database. Not sure what you mean with illegal though. I have recently brought into my possession all the land everywhere and therefore can plant wells where I please.
You do not want to know what I have in mind for Wellington the former capital of New Zealand.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 01:42 GMT
#2479
On December 14 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 10:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 10:26 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 09:04 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:22 disformation wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:10 disformation wrote:
I hope the activity is a bit better tomorrow afternoon/evening. Looking at NM here.
Also, hell yeah, should you feel strange about misslynching me.
On the other hand you might just be trying to distance yourself from the misslynch early, in the case I flip green.
+ Show Spoiler +
And I will flip green very hard

If you flip green the entire game will become insane trust me.


Well, I was already planning on thrusting y'all down a well and scream "Dis is town!disformation".

A well aye? Well to bad you need me to build one


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Well you win that But it was a illegal well though!


Damn straight. Let me PM kita to add this victory to the TL Mafia database. Not sure what you mean with illegal though. I have recently brought into my possession all the land everywhere and therefore can plant wells where I please.
You do not want to know what I have in mind for Wellington the former capital of New Zealand.

You didn't get permission to put a well there huehuehue



Bah. No problem.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Legit as hell.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 01:46 GMT
#2481
Oh Hai NM.
In case ppl are wondering: I will probably maybe try to post some useful stuff tomorrow afternoon.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 01:57 GMT
#2485
Slightly confused here.
What exactly did Trfel do to you? Do you need a puppet to show us where he touched you?
And what happened int newbie 14?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 02:04 GMT
#2488
On December 14 2015 11:02 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 10:57 disformation wrote:
Slightly confused here.
What exactly did Trfel do to you? Do you need a puppet to show us where he touched you?
And what happened int newbie 14?


I'm referring to how Trfel wanted to push my lynch for fuck knows how long and then came to the realisation there was a reason that no one wanted to lynch me. and for whatever reason he wasn't sure himself of actually lynching me, and that there was some external factor (in this case FF wanting to have me lynched) that made him realise I was town.

um weren't you in newbie 14?


No good sir. I was in NSM 9,10,13 and 17.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#2502
On December 14 2015 22:15 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 10:46 disformation wrote:
Oh Hai NM.
In case ppl are wondering: I will probably maybe try to post some useful stuff tomorrow afternoon.


It's 1400 or so where you are......we are still waiting.


phone post:
won't have time until 18.00 or something
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