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I feel like I'm trying to look at today from 2 different views.
1 - Who do I most want to lynch? (Aka, who do I think has the best shot of being mafia)
2- Who is the best lynch going into lylo? (who is going to be the hardest person to read)
For me 1) GB 2) one of Scott/Onegu
I sorta think Onegu is town, but it's like a 60% chance he flips town in my mind, just slightly better than a coinflip. Unfortunately that's mostly kus of meta shit.
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SL, do you recall the last game we played in together?
Where BF was the last mafia and I tunneled poor confused townRB Plotspot most of the game?
Scott was the afk mafia we caught D1, do you see any similarities to how he played that game to this one?
He did have legit reasons to be AFK that game, actually somehow Scott always has reasons to be low volume poster. Usually though when he's town he makes big reads posts or some kinda big overview post.
Here D1 he disagrees with GB and pokes a few things in a big post, then sheeps GB on me kus of his issues.
Btw I still haven't reread stuff, just thought dumping atm.
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On December 01 2015 19:39 sicklucker wrote: Like im pretty sure ff always gets town read because hes always town rather then people knowing how to read him. If that makes anysense so him being worried of getting lynched MAKES NO SENSE. he never gets lynched another weird inconsistency
Makes total sense to me.
Actually a FF lynch today might be very interesting.
Lets do it.
##Vote: ANickleDrink
##I Want my Dime back!
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Just to be clear this was my thinking
On December 01 2015 19:06 Tictock wrote: Then again, idk if i trust FF anymore. As town he picks up as the game gets on, here he is slowing down. Even after his post that "Mafia is trying to incriminate me with that shot" there is nothing, no followup, no passion.
SL is just hitting the same nail with a different hammer
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Noting that GB has managed 2 pages of filter since D2 started.
Last real suggestion from him was a team of OO, Sn0 and Scott, and maybe BF.
Now suggests Scot kus we can "afford the mislynch"
Clearly a player who cares.
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On December 02 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 00:29 Tictock wrote: Noting that GB has managed 2 pages of filter since D2 started.
Last real suggestion from him was a team of OO, Sn0 and Scott, and maybe BF.
Now suggests Scot kus we can "afford the mislynch"
Clearly a player who cares. Clearly you're a player "tunneled" in me but does not hesitate to vote FF instead
So is it a bad vote or what?
Am I faking this tunnel on you or not?
Like what the hell man, your not doing jack shit.
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On December 02 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote:On December 02 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 00:29 Tictock wrote: Noting that GB has managed 2 pages of filter since D2 started.
Last real suggestion from him was a team of OO, Sn0 and Scott, and maybe BF.
Now suggests Scot kus we can "afford the mislynch"
Clearly a player who cares. Clearly you're a player "tunneled" in me but does not hesitate to vote FF instead So is it a bad vote or what? Am I faking this tunnel on you or not? Like what the hell man, your not doing jack shit. And yes, it's a horrible vote, by your POV everything should point out to me being Mafia.
I don't understand.
Voting FF is bad, because I should be pushing you?
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On December 02 2015 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:On December 02 2015 23:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 23:24 Koshi wrote:On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote: There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore. I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia? Or do you think I am mafia? I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that. Because since D1 I have no idea anymore 1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all. 2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu. None of these people are strong reads But I'm doing things by PoE So today I don't want to lynch Chrom (top town), Koshi, TT and OO (his latest reactions sounded townie to me) I think scott should be the lynch today since we can afford a mislynch. I think FF cares too little to be Mafia here. Or it would make him more likely to be Mafia? I don't know. But I would always lynch scott first. SICKLUCKER is confirmed town so whatever This is where I'm at
I don't understand why you say Scott over Onegu here.
In fact it looks like you've forgotten about Onegu entirely.
Anyways catching up while at work.
I agree 100% with Koshi the last few pages. Never lynch that dude.
I'll be around for EoD, I think I'm still ok lynching FF if he's not even gunna try. Either he's mafia hoping we shennie onto someone else or he's another useless town. In the case that FF is town, I think town looses this game rehardless of if we lynch him or not.
Like, no chance in hell do we come back in LyLo with so many players not giving a shit.
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Yea, so my whole plan for today was to solidify a town circle and go by PoE.
Right now my circle is Koshi, SL and Chrom (I agree with SL, very slim chance Chrom is mafia playing a solid game, but pretty much never gunna be an issue unless we somehow make it to 3 man lylo.)
The rest are all potential PoE for me.
I cannot, despite every effort to get them to help us out, townread GB or FF.
OO is doing just enough to not really be a lurker.
Scott and Onegu might as well be empty slots. Scott initially saying he wouldn't be back till today, then comes in yesterday and says nope it will be Sat (which is next EoD, btw) is super shit.
Basically I'm not sure I care who we lynch as long is it's someone from this group of players.
Scott Onegu FF GB OO
Benevolent Ghosts supporting the FF lynch, and FF himself not giving a shit makes me fine leaving my vote on him. If anyone strongly feels we should be lynching someone else, now is the time to convince ppl.
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I'll be honest, I've basically lost my motivation to play this game after D2.
Obviously I'm around and putting some thought into this, but I can't be bothered to even reread stuff kus literally nothing has happened since D1.
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I just pulled these names out as they came to mind, but this is actually not a half bad PoE list now that I think about it.
On December 03 2015 04:50 Tictock wrote: Scott Onegu FF GB OO
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On December 03 2015 04:50 Tictock wrote: Benevolent Ghosts supporting the FF lynch, and FF himself not giving a shit makes me fine leaving my vote on him. If anyone strongly feels we should be lynching someone else, now is the time to convince ppl.
Buddy of mine is headed over so idk how much more I'll be around.
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Sorry I ever doubted you about the smurf thing SL.
I have tomorrow off so will save any work I decide to do here till then.
We still have a lynch to deal with Onegu/Scott (and I kinda think at least one of them has to be mafia).
I'll tinfoil any possible bussing going on later.
GB still my top scum, I acutely think FF flipping mafia makes this read super solid.
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It sounds weird, but I'm kinda thinking a team of GB/FF/Scott makes a ton of sense.
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Then again if I'm just tunneled on GB right now FF/Onegu/Scott is also totes possible.
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Ok I swear I wasn't planning to do anything tonight, but I remembered this exchange.
On December 02 2015 03:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:16 Tictock wrote:On December 02 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote:On December 02 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 00:29 Tictock wrote: Noting that GB has managed 2 pages of filter since D2 started.
Last real suggestion from him was a team of OO, Sn0 and Scott, and maybe BF.
Now suggests Scot kus we can "afford the mislynch"
Clearly a player who cares. Clearly you're a player "tunneled" in me but does not hesitate to vote FF instead So is it a bad vote or what? Am I faking this tunnel on you or not? Like what the hell man, your not doing jack shit. And yes, it's a horrible vote, by your POV everything should point out to me being Mafia. I don't understand. Voting FF is bad, because I should be pushing you? Yes
There is no way this is town!GB. This is clearly mafia!GB trying to discredit me and my push on FF.
I's a bit WIFOM but I think Scott is pretty likely to be the 3rd mafia with GB.
First off Scotts promises are too coincidental. Each one of these being right at the next EoD?
Yet he's actually showing up to cast his vote and make a post every once and awhile.
So most likely, shit is going down with Scott (sorry man) but is still doing what is needed to stay afloat and not get modkilled.
It even makes sense for scum!GB to push scum!Scott D3 because shenannies onto an afk scummate is a great way to get some towncred before heading into LyLo. Also pushing scott kinda indirectly pushes Onegu too, as it enforces the idea of scum playing lurky.
The reason why I'm not considering Onegu so strongly here?
Well it's because the very small bit of filter Scott has, does have something interesting.
On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:Is this the post you are referring to GB? Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:On November 25 2015 08:48 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:46 Chromatically wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote: I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity Hmm, I had the opposite reaction. Why would he be afraid of being outed as a smurf? Ok so ff has a very high perecentage of rolling town. Town is like 80% of the players. Why would he make a smurf when hes only getting mafia like 23% of the time or whatever. Especially when he historically never gets mafia anyway.. lol.. Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. I'm just not seeing it for being a scumread - I see there's a lot of fluff there, he comes up with a superweak conclusion - is that what you are referring to?
On November 26 2015 13:26 scott31337 wrote: I'm not sure If I'll even be on tomorrow with the holiday.
The best case and my highest townread ATM is GB - so I'm sheeping him.
I'll be on for a couple hours.
Scott goes from questioning GB's scumread on me to GB being his top town and sheeping him.
It's weak, but it's a strange progression none the less.
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On December 03 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 11:27 sicklucker wrote: I feel like if the team was scott/onegu or some dumb shit mafia would have conceded ( they still might)
but lets assume they dont concede that means they are trying. That means one of gb or oo is mafia always.
Remember these words of wisdom.
The best play is probably to lynch two of scott/onegu and one of gb/chrome to extend the game. But picking one from each group will probably let mafia have a chance Trust me, I'm not Mafia
Can I start calling you BoringBear?
Alliteration is always appealing
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@ Koshi
Look at that interaction I posted last, the one between GB and me last day phase.
How does it make any sense that town!GB tells me my vote on FF is bad because I should be pushing GB as scum?
I don't think GB ever even gave a read on FF all game, yet keeps saying how suspect the wagon on him was yesturday.
Like, I have tried to give GB the benifit of the doubt a few times this game, but that shit is so scummy.
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Also thanks Chrom for digging those posts up.
I think GB's reactions look really scummy. He pushes SL (who is the only one totally convinced the smurf thing made FF mafia) and Myself over our reactions, but never actually tries to make a read on FF himself. Just says the smurf thing is obviusly NAI, not even that it makes FF town, just NAI. So it looks to me like mafia!GB is pushing on the people who have an instant suspicion of FF based on the smurf thing while not committing to a read in case FF does flip.
It's actually interesting, OO and Chrom were the 2 people who thought the smurf thing was town indicative.
Onegu saying he found it kinda scummy is actually fairly large points in his favor, I would def lynch Scott over Onegu tomorrow. Also kus of the stuff I was pointing out earlier.
Everyone else was fairly noncommital, including myself.
It's probably pretty obvious, but I'm strongly feeling like the next 2 lynches should be GB and Scott.
Outside chance I'm wrong on one and it's either OO or Onegu as the last scum, prob OO over Onegu for me atm. I suppose I can't overlook a tinfoil on Chrom either, he was rather adamant that FF was town kus of the smurf thing.
Idk I still need to look at the possibility of a buss.
It's possible that the wagon on FF was pure and this game is as easy as GB/FF/OO. Seems a touch unlikely though.
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Ehh, you might have a point Koshi.
I kinda have this feeling that Scum was hoping there would be shenannies last EoD and FF was hoping that he could get away with not doing anything then have everyone go "This wagon has been too easy, lets switch!"
Idk, just my gut saying stuff again.
On December 03 2015 21:45 Koshi wrote: if GB is the sole mafia trying to win the game with his AFK teammates his endgame would be to win vs OO in lylo. He is doing a piss poor job securing the win like this.
This isn't a bad point at all, however....
I'm never gunna be swayed much by "too scummy to be scum" especially when I have a hard enough time already seeing town motivations in what GB is doing this game.
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