EPTI saw it but I didn't think anything of it - Boxer might have the SL bug and from what I've read of BF's games..
Do you actually think there's something behind it?
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
I saw it but I didn't think anything of it - Boxer might have the SL bug and from what I've read of BF's games.. Do you actually think there's something behind it? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On November 26 2015 12:37 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, if what I've brought has something to it, how come he be as good as a lynch target as anybody else (your "maybe better" doesn't sound you realy think it's better)? Why are you voting him? Why were you convinced only when chrom went against him, ignoring what I've posted until then? If Chrom is the only one you like, why aren't you interacting with him? What do you think of OO? (I know, lots of questions) Not sure if I only went for him after Chrom went for him, I went for him when I went for him. Might have been after I read GB, Chrom and Vivax on the matter. It's a good find but it is 1 thing, obviously TT hasn't done anything really so who knows? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
The best case and my highest townread ATM is GB - so I'm sheeping him. I'll be on for a couple hours. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Sorry boys had some last min stuff come up getting prepared for family to come over tomorrow. Anyways, I'm back and around till closer to EoD when people start showing up. I'm not fully caught up but I read a little at work earlier and saw GB and Vivax pushing me for this post. On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote: Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. I didn't state my conclusion as well as I should have I guess. What I was saying is that FF dropping his smurf is weird (SL had a point on that) but that trying to get a read out of that steaming pile of WIFOM is impossible. Anyways I got some time so I'm just gunna reread this game since it's only 24 pgs. I only recall having vague townfeels on Koshi and SL when I left off. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On November 26 2015 01:46 marvellosity wrote: how many games have you played with me now? if I had something worthwhile to say about either, do you estimate the chances i'd just sit on it silently to be a) low b) very low c) non-existent d) eerily homosexual ? I like this post ^.^ Marv prob town. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On November 26 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote: Imo we should just lynch marv tbh. Nothing wrong with it. It has been ages since he actually found mafia d1 and got his target lynched. If we lynch town today and marv did is standard boring poe thingie on that person I wouldnt even be surprised. I guess we can give him 24 more hours. But everybody should prepare their minds and bodies for a d1 marv lynch. This post actually makes me fairly certain Koshi is town, poking a sleeping Marv. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Both get added to my growing town pile. Might need to be a little weary that FF is pocketing me by going against GB's push on me, but I'm generally seeing townie posts from him. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On November 26 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote: you guys said alot of garbage but no one disproved my theory. since no ones cares ill just afk vote ff and be right On November 26 2015 09:54 sicklucker wrote: lol i dont even care about you . you havent been worth my time to sling one pile of shit so theres that On November 26 2015 09:56 sicklucker wrote: im so confused as to why this sno man thinks were in a shit fight when I have never responded to any of his posts. I only read his first one that basically called me an idiot even tho my logic is sound and I stoped reading them Yea, like 90% sure this is town SL. I'm also about 75% sure he's wrong about FF here though. Townpiled. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Anyways I have some serious doubts about GB, Sn0, Chrom, and Vivax atm and think there is probably 2 mafia in that group. I'm not really sure regarding my Chrom and GB reads atm, will have to relook through things but I get the sense that they are trying to lineup and push some early game reads without really looking at the game as a whole. I'm not that familiar with GB but the fact that he's really only been pushing OO and myself and keeps wanting people to talk about us seems strange. I recall town!GB being all over the place, changing his mind, and always reevaluating. Not the feel I get from him this game. I'm not sure how to put into words my read on Chrom just yet, maybe I should leave him more null atm because it's more just a scumfeel I have on him than anything really solid. I'm a bit torn on who is the better lynch between Vivax and Sn0, but I'm thinking Vivax atm. I'll make individual posts about them in a min (both have super short filters so it wont take long), but gunna go ahead and ##Vote: Vivax for now | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
He comes in, parrots what GB says, then buggers off. Also comes back to complain that Marv hasn't posted more?!? Where are your opinions about anyone else? How does my opinion being weak make me mafia? Like that was from ~3 hrs into the game and there really wasn't much else to talk about, so I was discussing the one relevant thing at the time. Idk, there is just no drive from his posts, like commenting on my one post was good enough for today. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
He throws out multiple suggestions to lynch a few different people right off the bat, but other than requoting his post about SL doesn't really push any of it. Hops on my wagon with no imput, then makes this post On November 26 2015 02:24 Sn0_Man wrote: if i vote sicklucker its me'n'him in a shitflinging fest nobody cares about with extremely limited material to work with that develops into a useless sideshow that if he's maf he can use to say "look i'm scumhunting" by targetting townie ol me. meanwhile we make a nice wagon on tictock and he gets pressured in a way that should help us read him. It's not like this is a serious lynch wagon. yet. u know basic mafia things Which is wierd, because he claims that his vote on me is to get a better read, but he has no read on me that I've seen. Really just seems like he has experience with SL and is more comfortable pushing an unknown person. I'm also quite interested in the fact that nobody who called out my post early on commented on this one. On November 26 2015 04:34 Sn0_Man wrote: Why would marv not finding scum day 1 as town make him scum now for being useless and not finding scum? Also, why would "nothing wrong with it" be good justification for a lynch? I agree that marv's play has been lazy and unhelpful to town in a way that makes me suspicious, but unlike you I prefer the approach proposed by... (gb i think) that waits until marv has proven himself to not be scumhunting before trying to open up his lynch. So while I liked your sentiment to an extent (that marv isn't playing townie, not that we lynch him today), I really disliked the way you worded and went about your post. Which is what marv pointed out already, which makes things more confusing. + Show Spoiler [Compare] + On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote: Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. Seems to me like this post from Sn0 is even more wordy, and goes absolutely nowhere besides saying he's ok waiting to see if Marv does some work. But then later suggests he's unsure about his ability to read Marv On November 26 2015 04:37 Sn0_Man wrote: I detest ur "its obvious enough on its own when i'm maf" defense marv I've lost to ur maf play Nowhere in his filter do I see a real from Sn0, just a few suggestions that he's willing to lynch people, but only to "develop reads" | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On November 26 2015 18:14 Tictock wrote: Nowhere in his filter do I see a real read from Sn0, just a few suggestions that he's willing to lynch people, but only to "develop reads" | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On November 26 2015 13:13 scott31337 wrote: My last one would be the one in the database - It's accurate. NSM IX? All I have done is roll town since my newbie games. Is there a reason you thought it was not accurate? my memory. but it doesn't work. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I take it most of it was his reaction to SL's "role hunting"? Seems pretty NAI to me, obvious thing for either alignment to question and... I'm told he's the One... I feel like he's taking his own approach to the game, and thinking things through himself. On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote: the outing scenario, taken alone: i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else. that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here And his reads aren't just rehashing what's been said. On November 26 2015 05:23 ObviousOne wrote: TicTock - last sentence as of this post is "imma play this slow" no imminent urge to find mafia Onegu - disavows responsibility to be proactive boxerfred - looks like participation for participation's sake so far sicklucker - entirety of filter is regarding FF smurfing preliminary scum pool by poe via feels and what i can remember of those not listed here, WIP Not really enough for me to townread him, but I'm not really seeing and mafia motivation behind his posts. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I wont be lynching him. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I'm not sure his pushing to keep the game moving is town motivated, I get more of a trying to stir up trouble vibe from what he's doing. In particular, this post felt like he was trying a bit too hard to make such a small point seem scummy. On November 25 2015 12:55 GlowingBear wrote: Nah, FF. He clearly agrees with SL. It's not a "I understand you, but..." Let me expand my suspicions on this post. If I see somethig that is NAI, whenever someone says it is suspicious, I will tell them that it's NAI. Whenever I see something that I find suspicious and someone say its suspicious, I will simply agree with it. I don't understand how can someone agree on a suspicion but reach the conclusion that that is NAI. His thought process is disconnected with his conclusion. In other words, it just sounds that he tried to fake putting thoughts on it when he was really just... Posting. Also, if this is slightly suspicious, why classifying it as NAI now instead of pushing it further, especially on the early phase of the game when usually we have NOTHING to pursue? Do you understsnd what I'm trying to say? For some reason I also thought it was weird for him to get all serious so early and ask people to focus on his reads post. Just felt a little unnecessary? idk I'm probably just picking at nits on this point. GB where are your reads at now? I feel like you are overly focused on a few people. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On November 26 2015 11:26 ObviousOne wrote: brace yourselves thanksgiving is coming i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? Reminder to everyone: please do not talk about any info you might have received from the hosting team. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue. koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us. the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing. tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess. boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today. fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which. as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment. feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game. honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess {boxer onegu} strongerest {sn0 SL fefe} less stronk {tictock scott vivax} middling {everyone else} oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny #vote: onegu | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
bleh next plz | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Tictock - I think GB is fine, you're kinda picking at him for being GB bf/onegu/scott - how am i even supposed to have any idea? funny thing is now it seems i misremembered FF being mafia recently, sicklucker's posts on him actually make more sense to me, but i'm not really particularly upset about his posting otherwise otherwise not sure what to do or think | ||
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