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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 26 2015 10:34 GMT
#481
oh yeah, GB - I replied about sl because I was high and bored.

As you can see by what i said about him it wasn't worth very much so normally i wouldn't have bothered.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 26 2015 10:47 GMT
#482
On November 26 2015 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
Tictock - I think GB is fine, you're kinda picking at him for being GB


OMGUS might also be a factor as well, it's true.

I tend to play by my gut often D1 and GB does not agree with it right now.
I can take that responsibility.
ANickelDrink
Profile Joined November 2015
140 Posts
November 26 2015 10:52 GMT
#483
On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [rant as fuck] +
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.

koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.

the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic.


i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.

tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.

fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.

feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.

honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever

strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}

oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel

i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny

#vote: onegu

This post really feels like coasting along to me

The spoiler complains about the low activity and koshi/marv which is whatever. He says Vivax isn't a good lynch because he was town one time where he ignored OO's questions. The bolded says that OO has a personal heuristic for playing with marv but provides no read on marv.

tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

So if you haven't read tictocks recent posts why is he 'out' of the top of your list? Because others started to go on him? That's an odd reason?

sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

What do the smurf stuff and marv have to do with sn0_man? You say he's a possible lynch target but only list a thing you like about his play

fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

the classic: don't really talk about FF but keep him open for later. I've seen this before. Explain what my stride is as town please.

Pretty sure this will be a mess of a post but oh well
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 26 2015 10:55 GMT
#484
i have to admit when i saw "FF hasn't hit his stride yet" I thought to myself "that makes him more likely town"

although that's based on some meta in my head that's probably wrong based on my previous memory faux pas so far
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ANickelDrink
Profile Joined November 2015
140 Posts
November 26 2015 10:56 GMT
#485
On November 26 2015 19:55 marvellosity wrote:
i have to admit when i saw "FF hasn't hit his stride yet" I thought to myself "that makes him more likely town"

although that's based on some meta in my head that's probably wrong based on my previous memory faux pas so far

This is why I made the smurf. I wanted to play harder as either alignment and my last few games have been real lazy
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 26 2015 11:03 GMT
#486
so then you took the real lazy way out and revealed yourself immediately? nice
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ANickelDrink
Profile Joined November 2015
140 Posts
November 26 2015 11:04 GMT
#487
Exactly
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ANickelDrink
Profile Joined November 2015
140 Posts
November 26 2015 11:05 GMT
#488
I'm gonna watch dreamhack do something cool marv
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 26 2015 11:05 GMT
#489
i just sneezed with my eyes open

beat that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 26 2015 11:06 GMT
#490
@ #483

Yea, I might be taking back my "wont lynch" on OO
I can take that responsibility.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 26 2015 11:07 GMT
#491
On November 26 2015 19:52 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [rant as fuck] +
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.

koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.

the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic.


i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.

tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.

fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.

feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.

honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever

strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}

oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel

i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny

#vote: onegu

This post really feels like coasting along to me

The spoiler complains about the low activity and koshi/marv which is whatever. He says Vivax isn't a good lynch because he was town one time where he ignored OO's questions. The bolded says that OO has a personal heuristic for playing with marv but provides no read on marv.

Show nested quote +
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

So if you haven't read tictocks recent posts why is he 'out' of the top of your list? Because others started to go on him? That's an odd reason?

Show nested quote +
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

What do the smurf stuff and marv have to do with sn0_man? You say he's a possible lynch target but only list a thing you like about his play

Show nested quote +
fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

the classic: don't really talk about FF but keep him open for later. I've seen this before. Explain what my stride is as town please.

Pretty sure this will be a mess of a post but oh well

your stride as in something meaningful i can look at and say hey this looks good to me or this is batshit insane, be the active game you want to see. of course if you can describe how based on your posts this game so far i can clear you when your major beef so far has been with me and i know i'm town, despite having played together in student mafix xv where you saw the trainwreck style i play

sn0: last four posts of filter, more useless marv meta discussion

marv: he's readable when he's playing, right now he's toying with his food like a cat to a live mouse, or just fucking about intentionally, remains to be seen, obviously i agree there isn't a lot go to on

tic: made a long string of posts in absence of other players, sounds like reasonable mindset, content-wise i'm too tired to read them as i'm about to go to bed, but i was acknowledging their existence and skimmed them. no alarm bells.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 26 2015 11:08 GMT
#492
Ohh Dreamhack!

I'm about to start cooking some Baklava, also with my eyes open

nxt
I can take that responsibility.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 26 2015 11:09 GMT
#493
does that satisfy you or do i need to stay at the computer?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 26 2015 11:10 GMT
#494
Why Onegu? that's what I want to know...

Or do you just plan to make the game more active by lynching the least actives in order?
I can take that responsibility.
ANickelDrink
Profile Joined November 2015
140 Posts
November 26 2015 11:11 GMT
#495
I don't hate that response actually
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 26 2015 11:13 GMT
#496
On November 26 2015 20:10 Tictock wrote:
Why Onegu? that's what I want to know...

Or do you just plan to make the game more active by lynching the least actives in order?

he wanted to be asked questions, that's the last we heard of him. are you seeing anything alignment indicative in his filter? i'm going to answer for you: no. that always bothers me. i'm always willing to lynch inactives on d1 especially if the impetus of an impending lynch gets them to a readable state.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ANickelDrink
Profile Joined November 2015
140 Posts
November 26 2015 11:13 GMT
#497
Not that you brought up any new points but that felt like a genuine "fuck off man I'm going to bed" without getting overly defensive.
##unvote
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 26 2015 11:14 GMT
#498
Also FF, I'm onto you
I can take that responsibility.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 26 2015 11:15 GMT
#499
marv: he's readable when he's playing, right now he's toying with his food like a cat to a live mouse, or just fucking about intentionally, remains to be seen,

you should know i don't really ever do this

take what i say at face value

either you believe i'm not really sure what's going on, or i'm mafia who can't be bothered to play. there isn't a town option of purposefully fucking around/being bad, because i don't like that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 26 2015 11:15 GMT
#500
okay goodnight and happy turkey day i'll try to be here in like 6-8 hours for consolidation/shenanigans. this game feels like shenanigans might be necessary.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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