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On November 08 2015 13:32 sicklucker wrote:
shockey/rels/hts and anyone else on #team target
I have the 5th nomination. if all 4 are voted down I get the final say and that will probably be the mission team. Just keep that in mind when your making your votes. We can outsmart the scum here
You'll be voting NO otherwise then? And including the scummiest people on your proposed team? >.> Sounds like a plan......
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On November 08 2015 22:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 21:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 08 2015 03:28 Rels wrote:On November 07 2015 22:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2015 22:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i would really like you to swap me with Rels. I think Rels has a good chance of being scum though. I'd feel more comfortable with about anyone else but Shockeyy and probably sicklucker (though I'm not entirely convinced it's sicklucker over Xata) IT doesn't even matter if the team gets yay'd or not. It forces sicklucker to give actual reads (as now he is just hiding behind "i will nay everything with Xata/rayn in it") and we'll hear something new from Shockeyy unless he wants that team to go on a mission. Basically if i am on the mission two of the people i think are mafia have a bullshit reason to downvote it and continue saying nothing on other people. Hmmmm It seems very risky though. And I don't like the idea of nominating a team I think likely has a spy. On November 07 2015 22:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If there is 1 scum in you/xata/sl, and I think there likely is, that means there's 2 scum in Rels/HtS/Shockeyy/Superbia/Kita and I have to select the exact 3 townies from the 5. That seems like a much harder task than selecting the player I have a strong townread on from the mission that failed. I know but the current concensus seems to be only to talk about people who are nominated atm. You can change your mind, but let's see what those people have to say about the team i proposed. Okay, fair enough. I have a concert tonight though so my final team will probably be submitted around like 17:45 GMT (+00:00) unless I read enough on mobile to change my mind by the end of it. ##Nominate Artanis[Xp], Rels, kitaman27, Superbia THAT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE 1 - unless I missed it, you didn't explain why you thought I was scum 2 - you're nominating a team that you think will fail just because rayn told you ? The only explanation I see is that you're scum trying to pass a failure team, put the blame on me (Haha I told you so!) and on rayn (but rayn told me to do that!). I have explained why I think you're likely scum. The gist of it comes down to how it seems like you're just throwing shit at everyone and seeing what sticks, and how you seem to be posting just to be posting. That "vote analysis" thing I dissected was an example of that. As for 2, think harder. On November 08 2015 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now for the rest of the game i am going to call HtS bad and make her feel bad.
Hope she is scum. Please Rayn, don't  Saying this off the record: I enjoy playing with you and I think you're a great dude, but you need to not allow things to get to you so much man. People can have differing opinions on things and people can be wrong. That doesn't give you the authority to be a dick over it. Hit me up and we'll play a game if you're still feeling shitty. 1 - your scumread on me wasn't displayed in thread, as demonstrated here: + Show Spoiler +On November 08 2015 04:20 Rels wrote:Arta's read evolution on me: Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Need to re-eval rels more when I actually have a pc and can compare filters. Moving him back to null/fear read though. Null read - need evaluation.Show nested quote +On November 06 2015 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 06:22 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 02:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 05 2015 22:29 Half the Sky wrote:On the topic of Artanis, I know he said he'd free up more Thursday so I look forward to reading more from him. Can't recall if he has capoeira today though, IRL he has been on a tear with that. Which means if he drops by in the UK, his first objective will be to dropkick me. Damn it.  Nope, I'm gonna mostly have time for the next four hours. I may drop by to dropkick you anyway though  On November 05 2015 07:23 Rels wrote:On November 05 2015 06:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Oh jesus rels is involved in everything as mafia too x_x How do you know I'm involved in everything as town as well ? I'm pretty sure we never played together ?? Two things: A) I assume most people have far more involved town games than scumgames. My townread on you came from the fact that you seem very active and involved in almost every discussion. That's generally enough to townread most players. B) I have seen you play town before, though I haven't played with you. I'm not sure which game I was observing anymore but I have done so. Also C) I never called you scum. I said you're back to null because what I thought made you town is apparently not alignment indicative. OK that makes sense. Security check: can you link me to the game in question ? All my games are in my profile so that should take you like 5 seconds. Im also pretty sure you said you would be reading my filter and evaluating me. Will you do it, or are you pulling a Hts ? Student Mafia XVI. I was a coach there too. I did kinda evaluate you, though not as thoroughly yet as I need to. I also want to know why you suddenly decided to re-eval Rayn. Didn't finish the eval. Rels why did you re evaluate rayn ?Show nested quote +On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm kind of around but at work. Not much to say until we find out if the mission passes or not honestly. If it does, I'm obviously nominating myself with the other three. Don't want to say too much about it before the pass/fail happens to not give any clues to any spy whether they should sabotage or not.
@Rels/HtS your explanations were satisfactory, though I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc. Rels, your explanation was satisfactory.Show nested quote +On November 06 2015 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 19:42 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 19:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 19:15 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 19:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 19:08 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 19:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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Because I just don't understand the point of the post you made. Thinking about the different possible scenarios that could happen from that vote pattern, regardless of what I think of the players myself, so it's easier to understand what's going on when we get the result. I just don't really get why you're going into scenario's where you'll never be able to discern which is which though. Like I said; being "unlikely" that they'd pass a mission with a mafia in it only to follow it up with the fact that it is possible You list the possible scenarios, but I'm pretty sure everyone's already figured that if the 3-person mission passes and the 4-person mission fails, it is in fact possible for one of the people in the 3-person mission to still be a spy. Cause I want it to be clear in my head. And that worked; I discovered that if success-then-fail happened, determining your alignment via behaviour will solve a big part of the game. Well yes, determining the alignment of the 4th player when there's a 3-success then 4-fail is probably important. It just seems like you went for a pretty.. roundabout way of approaching it? Eh, whatever, it's not that important I guess. I kinda wanna hear more from you about Rayn and SL, but I think it's best to wait for the results first. LOL OK said like that it's sound super dumb. (= It has something else to do with voting though: if the team is clean, the scum team is probably shockey / Superbia / kita. If one of them is wrong, you have to be the last scum, since the team is clean and HTS could have voted "no" super easily with what she was saying just before deadline. How are you ever going to determine if the team is clean though? This is what I didn't get from your analysis. Well, by playing the game. There is no way to know for sure: we'll have to use behaviour analysis, vote analysis, etc. I like having all the different scenarios in my head, so I can see which one is more likely; like if I cross this analysis with my reads, I'm pretty sure the team is not clean, 'cause that would either mean that kita / shockey / Superbia are the scums or that you are scum and voted for a clean team. So, your analysis decided that if a 3-player team passes and a 4-player team fails, we need behaviour and vote analysis to determine whether the 4th player is scum or town, and thus decide whether the 3-player team is clean or not. I think you may be on to something here. (after a back and forth) You made a post that didn't say anything.Show nested quote +On November 07 2015 18:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think you should pick Rels. You will never get this team yay-voted. Why do you suddenly think Rels is town? Show nested quote +On November 07 2015 19:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 07 2015 18:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think you should pick Rels. You will never get this team yay-voted. Why do you suddenly think Rels is town? Because it doesn't make sense that 2 sscum voted nay and Shockeyy is 100% scum. I can see it making sense. When scum scumread players on the suggested team, they can't yayvote regardless of what they want. Shockey scumread you and xata and rels scumread you and SL. Even if they wanted to yayvote, they couldn't given their reads. Though I guess I can see how Rels' scumread on both of you came after the team was already nominated, so it was a choice and he didn't really need to turn around and do that. I need to check if he scumread SL before the team was suggested now. Show nested quote +On November 07 2015 19:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah Rels had been suspicious of SL a lot already so there was no way he could vote yes to the mission. Sudden scumread ?Show nested quote +On November 07 2015 19:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 09:52 Rels wrote:On November 07 2015 09:45 Xatalos wrote:On November 07 2015 09:16 Rels wrote:On November 07 2015 08:00 Fidei86 wrote:
!!! MISSION FAILED !!!
1 Sabotage action detected.
Day 2
Artanis[Xp]'s Nomination Phase
Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 7 November 2015. Alright then we have at least one scum in Xata / rayn / SL. Then I think we have at the very least 2 scums in Xata / rayn / SL / HTS / Arta, maybe 3. I think that's a reasonable assumption... But rayn is most likely town, so I guess that would mean HTS, Artanis and SL would be scum? Kind of hard to see at least Artanis being scum, HTS maybe. So I'd guess there are 1+ scum hiding in the NO votes as well. Don't know, I'm kinda re evaluating everything here. The obvious answer to me is "rayn is scum, SL is town, rayn put SL to blame him when the team fails." Then at least HTS or Arta with him, maybe both. But SL is not obvious town either, so I'm not sure. And let's not forget YOU are the one that nominated the failing team. If you're scum, that would mean you broke your meta, but that's possible. Okay, hold up, timeline: 1. Rels considered SL scummy. 2. Rels started considering Rayn scummy. 3. Rels still considered SL scummy. 4. Mission fails. 5. Rels considers SL obvious town because he's being set up by Rayn. What happened between 3 and 5 that made you think it's MORE likely for SL to be town after the mission fails? Here is a thing Rels did that was weird.Show nested quote +On November 07 2015 22:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 07 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i would really like you to swap me with Rels. I think Rels has a good chance of being scum though. I'd feel more comfortable with about anyone else but Shockeyy and probably sicklucker (though I'm not entirely convinced it's sicklucker over Xata) Rels has a good chance of being scum.This makes no sense. I'm null - need eval; since then: - Arta commented on two weird things I did from his POV - I voted NO to a failure team and I have a good chance of being scum ? Artanis. Explain yourself. Plus, assuming you think I'm scum; you think Xata or SL is scum; who is the third from your POV ? Either HTS, or one of the NO voters ? 2 - I don't get it.
1. The scumread was implicit by the fact that I pressed you on one thing for quite some time. I'd figure you'd notice.
2. If I lay it out then it loses its purpose.
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raynpelikneet has been warned for his conduct in the following posts: #1910, #1911, #1912, #1913, #1914 and #1915. Please follow behaviour guidelines, particularly those requiring players to be civil and courteous to each other. This warning has equal effect under this game's rules as a warning for failing to vote on a submitted team or failing to submit a team as leader.
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On November 08 2015 22:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 13:32 sicklucker wrote:
shockey/rels/hts and anyone else on #team target
I have the 5th nomination. if all 4 are voted down I get the final say and that will probably be the mission team. Just keep that in mind when your making your votes. We can outsmart the scum here You'll be voting NO otherwise then? And including the scummiest people on your proposed team? >.> Sounds like a plan......
why not? I have the final say seems dumb to not want that
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also most people dont have the information I have. that the people who were deemed town early in the game are the most scummiest
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xata if your the town in rayn/you your literally losing town the game thinking the way you do. People like shockey/rels who voted no on a mission that failed are not going to be scum very often. you need to adjust your reads as scum bro
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kitaman27
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It's getting a bit difficult to parse the thread. Would everyone say this is a reasonable reflection of their current reads? You can respond after the vote if you wish. Clarifications would be helpful on the ones with (???)
ShoCkeyy
rayn/HTS
rels/kita/artanis/super
Xata/SL (???)
Half the Sky
Artanis, kita, rayn, SL
Xatalos/Shockeyy
Super/Rels (???)
Rels
HTS/Arta/SL
kita/shockeyy/super/xata
rayn (???)
Artanis[Xp]
Xatalos
Sicklucker
2 scum out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita
Artanis, rayn
Superbia
Xatalos//Kita/Artanis/Rels
One of SL/rayn + Shockeyy
HTS ???
raynpelikoneet
artanis, Xata, super, kita, Rels
Shockeyy, SL, HTS
sicklucker
Shockyy/Xatalos/kita
artanis/rayn/rels/super/hts
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 09 2015 02:28 sicklucker wrote:
xata if your the town in rayn/you your literally losing town the game thinking the way you do. People like shockey/rels who voted no on a mission that failed are not going to be scum very often. you need to adjust your reads as scum bro
Two out of your three scum reads voted no, didn't they? Or am I wrong about your reads listed above?
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lol you think those are my reads?
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Kita where are your reads?
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On November 09 2015 03:02 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 02:28 sicklucker wrote:
xata if your the town in rayn/you your literally losing town the game thinking the way you do. People like shockey/rels who voted no on a mission that failed are not going to be scum very often. you need to adjust your reads as scum bro Two out of your three scum reads voted no, didn't they? Or am I wrong about your reads listed above?
its the worst attempt i ever ever seen. Like you dont even know your top scum reads. reads? your wrong about like 4 people on that list.
more like town shockey rels hts
scum everyone else but especially you
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You seem to have a lot of mafia leans.
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SL why should I trust HTS to being town, just curious? I've been rethinking some of my reads at this point.
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kitas whole being town platform this game is questioning me on my reads. but he just proved he did not even know my reads? anyone? anyone seeing this?
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On November 09 2015 03:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
SL why should I trust HTS to being town, just curious? I've been rethinking some of my reads at this point.
i had a moment where i decided shes town for the rest of the game. I cant remember what it was (i qouted in my filter) but with the state of the game its a gamble im going with
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On November 09 2015 03:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
SL why should I trust HTS to being town, just curious? I've been rethinking some of my reads at this point.
like you just have to eventually trust people and gamble in this game everyones scum until I have reasons to believe they are town, I found 4 most likely towns thats all i need right now. If you think im town (you should since you think rayn/xata are scum) then gamble on me by no voting untill its my noms
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 09 2015 03:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 03:02 kitaman27 wrote:On November 09 2015 02:28 sicklucker wrote:
xata if your the town in rayn/you your literally losing town the game thinking the way you do. People like shockey/rels who voted no on a mission that failed are not going to be scum very often. you need to adjust your reads as scum bro Two out of your three scum reads voted no, didn't they? Or am I wrong about your reads listed above? its the worst attempt i ever ever seen. Like you dont even know your top scum reads. reads? your wrong about like 4 people on that list. more like town shockey rels hts scum everyone else but especially you
So everyone else would be some combination of myself/super/artanis/xat?
On November 08 2015 01:47 sicklucker wrote:
i would vote yes for artanis/rayn/rels/super
Yet you would pass this team?
The reason I keep asking you about your reads is because you contradict yourself every other post.
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more like i was considering it. isint that the team i just voted no? so saying and doing are two different things
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kita im sorry if my ideas change. this is a thing that happens as town... your scum so idk why im talking to you anyway its so obvious this game..
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also 2 posts down in t filter i say something like "only because im done with this game and want to lose faster"
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