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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 07 2015 13:20 GMT
#1621
I skimmed it tbh. it tilts me more to rayn being the scum and xata being dumb. Like I didnt make my reasons to town read xata up. But my entire reason for townreading rayn might have been wrong since he went against that logic now anyway. He could have just been townreading me to set up just this situation
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:21 GMT
#1622
On November 07 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote:
I skimmed it tbh. it tilts me more to rayn being the scum and xata being dumb. Like I didnt make my reasons to town read xata up. But my entire reason for townreading rayn might have been wrong since he went against that logic now anyway. He could have just been townreading me to set up just this situation

Except i wanted someone else onto the mission over you....
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:25 GMT
#1623
On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:27 GMT
#1624
Artanis i would really like you to swap me with Rels.
table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 07 2015 13:28 GMT
#1625
Actually I missed this quote about Xatalos' read on you SL.

On November 07 2015 08:53 Xatalos wrote:
I guess SL's position on me and the missions is somewhat unnatural. He first scumreads me for not 100% townreading him at first... But he'd still want to go on a mission during my leadership, and even include me on the second mission if the first mission passed.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 20:35 sicklucker wrote:
Its also not me being biased the chart says were the top 3 towns more or less as no one scum reads us. I know you town read artanis so from your pov if your town submitting that team makes sense.

No one understands the logic of putting yourself in the team better then me but you also need that team to pass and its only attempt 2 of 5 so people are still very picky like me. Also if the said mission passes it would make a likely town circle of 4 people rather then 3 im not totally sure the mechanics but that seems like a good spot to be in.


Not really sure what his read on me was at this point? Still scum? Null? It kind of feels like it's a town lean or something already.

And then when he's included with me and rayn, I'm very likely town...?

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
oh i liked the xatalos filter thing. i think we should pass this its very likely 3 towns from my pov


Would be very curious to hear about this read progression on me.


Ugh, the sad part here is that I could see both of you playing suboptimally here too. I don't think Xata should have had the reads he did on rayn, post-failure, the first two quotes he posted are IMO NAI, the second quote especially for anyone of either alignment who knows the game well can talk about the scum-packing strategy. (Kita did as well and I know I disregarded that as NAI and was townreading him on other things.)

The problem here is that when I read your filter, I can actually understand your progression on Xatalos. That actually makes Xatalos worse to me and thus of the three, the most likely scum.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:28 GMT
#1626
I also don't like how she hasn't really addressed anything towards me when I'm a townread of hers, yet she seems fine with me scumreading her.

Also, Rayn, what's your current read on Rels? You made a big post about things you don't like about him, yet
I think that's the most logical explanation votewise, and behaviorwise. If you and/or shockeyy are town, and by that i am gonna lose to scum!Rels, so be it, but i can't scumread him because it doesn't make sense, you two being mafia makes more sense.


You've raised a bunch of points you don't like about Rels/that make him scummy to you, yet you still seem to townread him?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 07 2015 13:28 GMT
#1627
On November 07 2015 22:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 18:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd still like to hear from HtS what exactly changed her mind on me when she's on a pc.



Thanks. Hold on.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:30 GMT
#1628
On November 07 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i would really like you to swap me with Rels.

I think Rels has a good chance of being scum though. I'd feel more comfortable with about anyone else but Shockeyy and probably sicklucker (though I'm not entirely convinced it's sicklucker over Xata)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:30 GMT
#1629
On November 07 2015 22:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also don't like how she hasn't really addressed anything towards me when I'm a townread of hers, yet she seems fine with me scumreading her.

Also, Rayn, what's your current read on Rels? You made a big post about things you don't like about him, yet
Show nested quote +
I think that's the most logical explanation votewise, and behaviorwise. If you and/or shockeyy are town, and by that i am gonna lose to scum!Rels, so be it, but i can't scumread him because it doesn't make sense, you two being mafia makes more sense.


You've raised a bunch of points you don't like about Rels/that make him scummy to you, yet you still seem to townread him?

As i said it doesn't make any sense to me that 2 scum voted nay. And Rels looks better than Shockeyy does.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:31 GMT
#1630
On November 07 2015 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 22:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also don't like how she hasn't really addressed anything towards me when I'm a townread of hers, yet she seems fine with me scumreading her.

Also, Rayn, what's your current read on Rels? You made a big post about things you don't like about him, yet
I think that's the most logical explanation votewise, and behaviorwise. If you and/or shockeyy are town, and by that i am gonna lose to scum!Rels, so be it, but i can't scumread him because it doesn't make sense, you two being mafia makes more sense.


You've raised a bunch of points you don't like about Rels/that make him scummy to you, yet you still seem to townread him?

As i said it doesn't make any sense to me that 2 scum voted nay. And Rels looks better than Shockeyy does.

Yeah but as I said I don't think he had much of a choice given his reads at the time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:32 GMT
#1631
If there is 1 scum in you/xata/sl, and I think there likely is, that means there's 2 scum in Rels/HtS/Shockeyy/Superbia/Kita and I have to select the exact 3 townies from the 5. That seems like a much harder task than selecting the player I have a strong townread on from the mission that failed.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:33 GMT
#1632
On November 07 2015 22:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i would really like you to swap me with Rels.

I think Rels has a good chance of being scum though. I'd feel more comfortable with about anyone else but Shockeyy and probably sicklucker (though I'm not entirely convinced it's sicklucker over Xata)

IT doesn't even matter if the team gets yay'd or not.
It forces sicklucker to give actual reads (as now he is just hiding behind "i will nay everything with Xata/rayn in it") and we'll hear something new from Shockeyy unless he wants that team to go on a mission.

Basically if i am on the mission two of the people i think are mafia have a bullshit reason to downvote it and continue saying nothing on other people.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:34 GMT
#1633
On November 07 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If there is 1 scum in you/xata/sl, and I think there likely is, that means there's 2 scum in Rels/HtS/Shockeyy/Superbia/Kita and I have to select the exact 3 townies from the 5. That seems like a much harder task than selecting the player I have a strong townread on from the mission that failed.

I know but the current concensus seems to be only to talk about people who are nominated atm.
You can change your mind, but let's see what those people have to say about the team i proposed.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:34 GMT
#1634
On November 07 2015 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 22:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 07 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis i would really like you to swap me with Rels.

I think Rels has a good chance of being scum though. I'd feel more comfortable with about anyone else but Shockeyy and probably sicklucker (though I'm not entirely convinced it's sicklucker over Xata)

IT doesn't even matter if the team gets yay'd or not.
It forces sicklucker to give actual reads (as now he is just hiding behind "i will nay everything with Xata/rayn in it") and we'll hear something new from Shockeyy unless he wants that team to go on a mission.

Basically if i am on the mission two of the people i think are mafia have a bullshit reason to downvote it and continue saying nothing on other people.

Hmmmm
It seems very risky though. And I don't like the idea of nominating a team I think likely has a spy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 07 2015 13:35 GMT
#1635
On November 07 2015 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If there is 1 scum in you/xata/sl, and I think there likely is, that means there's 2 scum in Rels/HtS/Shockeyy/Superbia/Kita and I have to select the exact 3 townies from the 5. That seems like a much harder task than selecting the player I have a strong townread on from the mission that failed.

I know but the current concensus seems to be only to talk about people who are nominated atm.
You can change your mind, but let's see what those people have to say about the team i proposed.

Okay, fair enough. I have a concert tonight though so my final team will probably be submitted around like 17:45 GMT (+00:00) unless I read enough on mobile to change my mind by the end of it.
##Nominate Artanis[Xp], Rels, kitaman27, Superbia
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 07 2015 13:36 GMT
#1636
Artanis, it was posts 605/919. Pretty much why I'm a bit sold on you as town atm is your general thought process from 973/75, 986, etc, and your approach your Rels looks pretty towny. You don't have an agenda to push him one way or another but the reasons for you scumreading him look through from your filter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:36 GMT
#1637
On November 07 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If there is 1 scum in you/xata/sl, and I think there likely is, that means there's 2 scum in Rels/HtS/Shockeyy/Superbia/Kita and I have to select the exact 3 townies from the 5. That seems like a much harder task than selecting the player I have a strong townread on from the mission that failed.

Well you know i would never pick a team with 2 scum in it, nor yay-vote it.
I doubt Xatalos would do that either.
Based on above, if SL is scum, 2-scum team would not go through because me or Xatalos would downvote it, regardless of which one of us would be scum.

So yeah, there is not gonna be 2 scum in the first mission.
table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 07 2015 13:37 GMT
#1638
Eh, I'm voting any team with Rels down on it. The previous team was definitely better.

Even Rels aside, there should be some discussion on Superbia, whom some people are having doubts on.

Enjoy the concert though.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 07 2015 13:38 GMT
#1639
HtS do you really think Rels and Shockeyy both voted nay as scum?
Why?
table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 07 2015 13:40 GMT
#1640
Right now, I actually think based on Xatalos post-mission failure posts there's a decent chance he might be the sabotaging player. Anyone who comes in later today, read post 1618 and 1625 and tell me what you think.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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