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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 06 2015 23:27 GMT
#1441
On November 07 2015 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 08:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 07 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 07 2015 08:16 Half the Sky wrote:
What we know

SL/Xata/rayn = 1 spy

Rels/shockey/Superbia/Kita/Artanis = 2 spies

Latest voting results:

On November 06 2015 08:00 Tictock wrote:
Day 1
Xatalos Nomination (Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker)

Vote Result

Half the Sky - YES
Xatalos - YES
Artanis[Xp] - YES
raynpelikoneet - YES
ShoCkeyy - NO
Rels - NO
sicklucker - YES
kitaman27 - NO
Superbia - NO

MISSION IS APPROVED

Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, and sicklucker will be embarking on Mission 1
Mission will be completed in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 6 November 2015.

We don't know that. There could be 2 spies in the first mission.

Also, I guess we're not sending the same mission + me then. Huh.


LOL no. Eh, in the actual resistance we know the number of sabotages, but I guess that's not the case here. NVM.

You do realize one of the spies could've voted pass, right?


I'm starting to think that HtS is a spy.... What are your thoughts on her?
Life?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:28 GMT
#1442
On November 07 2015 08:26 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 08:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Lol.... Of course..... I don't look crazy now do I? ;\


Actually leaning on TMI in my mind atm, but I'll re-eval your filter somewhere tomorrow.


llllllllllooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllll

seriously though Shockey I broke down the numbers....you're not off the hook given what I said about the breakdown of spies.

whom were you scumreading? rayn/xata right? hmmmmm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 06 2015 23:28 GMT
#1443
On November 07 2015 08:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 07 2015 08:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 07 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 07 2015 08:16 Half the Sky wrote:
What we know

SL/Xata/rayn = 1 spy

Rels/shockey/Superbia/Kita/Artanis = 2 spies

Latest voting results:

On November 06 2015 08:00 Tictock wrote:
Day 1
Xatalos Nomination (Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker)

Vote Result

Half the Sky - YES
Xatalos - YES
Artanis[Xp] - YES
raynpelikoneet - YES
ShoCkeyy - NO
Rels - NO
sicklucker - YES
kitaman27 - NO
Superbia - NO

MISSION IS APPROVED

Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, and sicklucker will be embarking on Mission 1
Mission will be completed in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 6 November 2015.

We don't know that. There could be 2 spies in the first mission.

Also, I guess we're not sending the same mission + me then. Huh.


LOL no. Eh, in the actual resistance we know the number of sabotages, but I guess that's not the case here. NVM.

You do realize one of the spies could've voted pass, right?


I'm starting to think that HtS is a spy.... What are your thoughts on her?

I already kind of thought so earlier honestly. Still need to think about things and currently preoccupied.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#1444
On November 07 2015 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You do realize one of the spies could've voted pass, right?


Read the operative post - Fidei explicitly says there was one sabotage - or do you mean there were two people on the mission and one passed and one failed?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#1445
EBWOP - two spies on the mission.

Yeah I need to stop playing this game at late hours when I'm dead.....oh well :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#1446
Alright Artanis if you think that's the case, they cannot communicate through a mafia QT, how would they know whether to pass or fail when there's a partner on the mission? I'm just saying from a likeliness standpoint.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
November 06 2015 23:32 GMT
#1447
On November 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright Artanis if you think that's the case, they cannot communicate through a mafia QT, how would they know whether to pass or fail when there's a partner on the mission? I'm just saying from a likeliness standpoint.


You've got to be kidding me HTS.

You want to go over a pass/fail strategy in the thread.....?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#1448
I'm so bad at this game.

Forget it, I'm just going to filter dive rayn/xata...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#1449
The fucking strategy was literally discussed in the very intro of the thread. Like mafia know how to do it. They're not going to fuck up.
Minimal effort.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#1450
That was ballsy >.> Especially if SL is scum...

But I still think rayn is town, so it pretty much has to be SL... Quite doubt it would be both. Wouldn't make much sense for scum rayn to embrace scum SL as the third member then...

I'll have to relook at them both though...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#1451
Incidentally tripping over it as I'm reading through rayn's filter. Figures.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#1452
On November 07 2015 08:33 Xatalos wrote:
That was ballsy >.> Especially if SL is scum...

But I still think rayn is town, so it pretty much has to be SL... Quite doubt it would be both. Wouldn't make much sense for scum rayn to embrace scum SL as the third member then...

I'll have to relook at them both though...


Are you using morse code or something?
Life?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 06 2015 23:36 GMT
#1453
On November 07 2015 08:35 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 08:33 Xatalos wrote:
That was ballsy >.> Especially if SL is scum...

But I still think rayn is town, so it pretty much has to be SL... Quite doubt it would be both. Wouldn't make much sense for scum rayn to embrace scum SL as the third member then...

I'll have to relook at them both though...


Are you using morse code or something?


What? lol :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:37 GMT
#1454
Alright, going into tinfoil rayn land - the first thing that jumps out at me was the "alternate strategy" of getting multiple scum on the team as opposed to the conventional strategy of trying to get the first mission to pass. I forget who accused rayn of mafia motivation but this was one potential point to raise against him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 06 2015 23:38 GMT
#1455
Yeah I don't think 2 scum being on a mission is generally that unlikely. It's just that rayn is quite likely town in this game and seems even more unlikely that he would be scum with SL.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 06 2015 23:38 GMT
#1456
On November 07 2015 08:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Incidentally tripping over it as I'm reading through rayn's filter. Figures.


[image loading]
Life?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:43 GMT
#1457
Second point is the conflicting read on Superbia where he was nitpicking Xatalos over scum being at a disadvantage (paraphrasing) whereas Kita took the opposite position on this. Saying that Superbia was stretching it.

Does it make sense for a town rayn to read Superbia that way? That's probably the first question to think hard on.

We all know that when rayn is town, he's nitpicky over semantics. As mafia....I honestly don't remember. I know the rage level is the same, the last mafia game I recall (TL LXX before he replaced out) I don't recall a lot of nitpicking but I might need to refresh my memory, that game was in March. Ugh.

Does anyone else recall any notable rayn scum games where he was close to replicate town play?

First wave of reads:

On November 02 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i am gonna stop this conversation now as it's waste of time.

I think both of Superbia and Xatalos are town. I don't see any reason to think otherwise.
Artanis and sicklucker said nothing alignemnt indicative.
Rels and kitaman are suspicious. Rels because he is refusing to read people. kitaman because he is talking about setup which is a big no-no in this game unless you are scum and want to give advice to your teammates, like "this is something i would not recommend to do". And that's all he said, except for;
Show nested quote +
I'd say people stating that they are happy that they didn't roll mafia typically increases their chances of being mafia, though I don't know if that actually holds true.

So; "I think people who claim town are more likely to be scum, but i don't really know if that's true"
hmmm... what?!?!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 06 2015 23:44 GMT
#1458
IDK Shockey try playing the game when you're dead tired on a Friday late night after work and stuff, my bet is you probably won't be thinking terribly clearly either. Last three days this is the only time I can play...

Onwards...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 06 2015 23:49 GMT
#1459
I work essentially every day from 9am to 9pm, right now, I need to finish up with three clients and finish writing out a script to pull json info from a site. I'm dead tired, but anyways, why should I trust you?
Life?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 06 2015 23:53 GMT
#1460
I guess SL's position on me and the missions is somewhat unnatural. He first scumreads me for not 100% townreading him at first... But he'd still want to go on a mission during my leadership, and even include me on the second mission if the first mission passed.

On November 04 2015 20:35 sicklucker wrote:
Its also not me being biased the chart says were the top 3 towns more or less as no one scum reads us. I know you town read artanis so from your pov if your town submitting that team makes sense.

No one understands the logic of putting yourself in the team better then me but you also need that team to pass and its only attempt 2 of 5 so people are still very picky like me. Also if the said mission passes it would make a likely town circle of 4 people rather then 3 im not totally sure the mechanics but that seems like a good spot to be in.


Not really sure what his read on me was at this point? Still scum? Null? It kind of feels like it's a town lean or something already.

And then when he's included with me and rayn, I'm very likely town...?

On November 05 2015 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
oh i liked the xatalos filter thing. i think we should pass this its very likely 3 towns from my pov


Would be very curious to hear about this read progression on me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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