Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition

On November 03 2015 12:03 Tictock wrote:
Well as far as I understood the BBcode I'm using [tim] just converts the time that you put in into the local timezone, I based the original codes in the OP based on w/e they were when I copied the OP and just edited it for this game.

Now when I stick what is returned by that code into the code again it changes the letters for the timezone and the time got adjusted by an hour like Dis said.

I'm not even understanding why the output changes when I'm putting in what it was returning for me already.

On November 12 2015 05:40 Eversince wrote:
A very close mafia win!

Nocturne's early bus on D1, followed by a the completely logical hard defense on D2 was flawless!
He effortlessly flipped over the table when he ran Fecal under the motors instead of Nocturne! He bought his way right into to lylo with that play. Paradise!

Town did have a few big hiccups. With townie Scott claiming doctor, and mafia The Shining counterin' with doctor, the town suffered a major loss when Scott got lynched. Further downin' was the fact The Shining was shot in the night. Why would a vig ever burn someone who is basically confirmed mafia? Wasted bullet there. Not only wasted, it lead to the mislynch of Trfel the next day. He got connected with Shining mid D1. Got plastered with it after the lynch, and little chances followin'!

*Pleasant dreams!*

On November 15 2015 08:58 Trfel wrote:
Hasn't that been a bit overused lately?

On November 15 2015 14:22 Eversince wrote:
Wells feller's, I'm goin' to be real loopy and incoherent for this game.

Bonus is that I'll have copious amounts of free time! Granted I don't spend all off it it snoozing.
I officially ran over my left foot for a second time with somethin' that weighed over 2.5t! This time it pushed the 5 medal rods previously place out through the back of me heel. Giving this as an ahead of warnin'. I'll be as manageable as possible, lynch me if I don't, but don't auto lynch me if I make zero sense.

Or do. Either way, I'll be over there somehwre on Pluto enjoy now!

On November 16 2015 05:04 disformation wrote:
Fecalfeat you just got out of bed?

On November 16 2015 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:

lmao best quote the whole game.

"assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn"

On November 17 2015 06:26 disformation wrote:


Yeah, you are right. I could be pushing more. This is one of the aspects to my town game that I need to improve.
FF has like 8 posts. Most of them are like "only skimming / lurking hardcore". He put out a few reads, but hardly explained any of them. His last list is basically without any explanation besides that he likes your case on VE.


So yeah I am not impressed by FF so far.^^
Options are "super lazy town" and "scum trying to coast by on minimal work". Though his tone is a bit too up front lazy that I am not sure maffay would do this. But this could be what maffay would want me to think.

@FF:
what happened to:
"farah is town, geript is town, ever is towny..."
Sill valid?

On November 17 2015 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote:

The quality of the reads is what I'm referring to. Not just who but why, etc.

On November 17 2015 07:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't need to ask. Townes want to find mafia. Fecal doesn't. He wants to play GTA and be seen posting. If he wants to look town, regardless of his alignment, he should act like a Towne and not a scumbag.

On November 17 2015 08:07 Breshke wrote:

why?

On November 17 2015 08:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Yes now I lurk and get modkill later as I cannot vote for myself. Yes. Success.

On November 17 2015 09:19 Trfel wrote:
The problem is that he knows this, and he knows that people will say this......

Ugh, this is so frustrating.

On November 17 2015 09:29 Trfel wrote:
I don't need post-by-post. I don't want post-by-post. If you post an analysis of every single one of FarahBlackwing's posts I will policy lynch you.

Was there anything in FarahBlackwing's filter that looked good to you? You seem to say that you didn't find anything wrong, did you find anything right?

On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time

On November 16 2015 05:07 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Shining has rolled town 85% of the time maybe 90%. His streak must be over at some point

On November 16 2015 05:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:


There was plenty to town read shining on last game be it tone or otherwise.

On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.

On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.

And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.

I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage.

On November 17 2015 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Also, Fecalfeast, I believe you have zero scum reads right now?

Do you plan on doing something about that in the near future?

On November 17 2015 09:43 Trfel wrote:
You had two scumreads, VisceraEyes and MoosyDoosy. You're no longer scumreading both of them.

I was just wanting your thoughts on that, that's all.

How much past experience do you have with MoosyDoosy?

Anyway, off to my exam.

On November 17 2015 08:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Yes I will explain.

Farah is serious player and does not take gambits especially as noob as shown in previous game. This is extremely out of place.
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When people point it out and call bS on his "boring thread" excuse, he backs out of it immediately by saying he's "gathering reads" while whining at thread.
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Free town reads based on nothing. \o/
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And this post is very mechanical yes and has no emotion. Very much like Damdred yes.
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On November 17 2015 10:04 ritoky wrote:


Weirdly enough I am from Seattle and don't drink coffee. Tea is my thing, drinking a vanilla chai tea atm, back rub sound amazing.

On November 17 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:


DANGER DANGER WIFOM NUKE ALERT!

I am laughing so fucking hard at this irl, aight I will give you a town pass today just cuz of this. The chupazi in me believes you wouldn't be so obvious as mafia courting me for a hot date like this.

On November 17 2015 10:17 ritoky wrote:


yea the "i understand trfel's case and am considering it" into no unvote of trfel or immediate reaction is kinda a ???? moment.

plus i have a lot of TRs

On November 17 2015 10:25 disformation wrote:


Hm, which town reads do you feel strong / not strong about?
scott is not strong since he has 0/5 stars on his filter I guess?

On November 17 2015 11:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Because I hate town. Next quesiton, yes.

On November 17 2015 10:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Yes you are wrong.

On November 17 2015 12:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, it's completely okay to try to use meta on me but just know that's not going to work well as my gameplay has changed drastically from what it once was.

Next question.

On November 18 2015 08:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:

What did you mean by this? How do you read Shining now?

On November 19 2015 06:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy.

On November 19 2015 07:44 ritoky wrote:


can you make me fall in love with you today. i gave you a town pass cuz you courted me and were funny, but you're starting to make your way toward my PoE at a quicker and quicker rate. so plz defecate town rainbows if you're town.

On November 19 2015 08:39 ritoky wrote:
the largest issue in this game atm is eversince.....we now have confirmed no vigi shot left and confirmed no cop, and no posts in multiple days; i guess i need to filter dive that after i take a shower cuz no other way around trying to resolve that alignment.

On November 19 2015 08:38 Trfel wrote:
But when it's this bad? And when the person claiming is being this malicious?

And right after we saw MoosyDoosy avoid a lynch through martyring?

This simply isn't town play. Giving up a power role for this is not a trade that should even need to happen.

On November 19 2015 08:42 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Your case was bad and nothing in it makes anyone mafia.

The answer why I claimed is in my filter

On November 20 2015 06:59 ritoky wrote:
i'm awake

On November 17 2015 07:48 Breshke wrote:




FF's filter isnt actually as bad as i thought so he isn't actually in the same tier as moosy but his play still feels lazy even for him. So would still lynch until he comes back and has a chat.

On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:
FF still being lazy so would lynch.

Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage.

On November 17 2015 09:28 Breshke wrote:
FF look at scotts and tell me what you think.

Farah if moosey acted like this last game as town couldnt you say it would be a good idea for him to act this way as scum this game?

On November 17 2015 10:30 Fecalfeast wrote:

scott is mafia imo

On November 17 2015 12:14 Breshke wrote:
Moosey do you understand that if you are town that your play is just distracting the rest of town and really hurts your chances of people listening to you. It also lets people just cop out and just talk about you being a shithead. For example

On November 17 2015 23:28 Breshke wrote:
##Vote MoosyDoosy

Does anyone have anything to ask me i got held up at work and its 1am here and will probably go to sleep soon and will most likely not be here until after deadline.

On November 18 2015 13:32 Breshke wrote:
Hi im here and catching up my keyboard is a bit wonky atm so i might be even more illiterate than normal.

Moosey do you think I am town or mafia?

On November 20 2015 10:42 disformation wrote:
Yo, FF any suspects outside Breshke and Trfel?
Also would like for you to explain why you prefer lynching Breshke.
And furthermore... do you have any solid town reads?

Trfel: am I right to assume that you have a solid TR on the ppl not mentioned in:

On November 21 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
wait...if my wife doesn't close her eyes.....did i marry a man?

On November 21 2015 09:41 disformation wrote:
Was glancing at this thread from the side. Suddenly ticktoc. Hi Onegu.

On November 21 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's the full argument for trfel and breshke being opposite alignments?

On November 21 2015 10:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Onegu, where art thou?

On November 21 2015 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Onegu VT claim.

Onegu hasnt read anything and wont until tomorrow.

##Vote Damdred

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On November 22 2015 01:44 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I've got plans for today. If scum shoots me, we'll all be super happy anyway.

I guess Damdred is just town. Which leaves me to a POE list of Fecalfeast, disformation, and Onegu.

There's quite likely at least one hole in my POE list, some of the points raised against ritoky were pretty good.

I'll take a look this evening, hopefully.

On November 21 2015 05:26 Trfel wrote:
I don't see how Fecalfeast can be town here.

Breshke was obviously bussed. My push on Fecalfeast would have given mafia a golden opportunity to switch off of Breshke, but nothing happened.

In addition to all of Fecalfeast's play, that absolutely confirms him as mafia.

On November 22 2015 08:07 NocturneMage wrote:


Based on the above posts, why does this make trfel mafia? to the point before I said that the material you cased Breshke on was from day 1 hence Trfel saying your push was too easy. that made more sense once I re-read in context. But why does that associative read "my push on Fecalfeast would have given mafia a golden opportunity....." make him mafia?

if I had to pretend for just one second that trfel is town, tbf he's screaming at the thread and no one is listening to him, there are two scum remaining.

how do you know he's not going to sort out (first quote) someone else if no one is listening to him on his primary scumread? the first quote indicates just that.

On November 22 2015 09:28 Damdred wrote:
This whole game makes me want to lynch ff and trfel sorta. Its hard

On November 22 2015 10:00 disformation wrote:


My, what a fine sample! *Looks at it through a magnifying glass usually reserved for the finest of diamonds*
At least you make me laugh. <3

On October 01 2015 06:42 The Shining wrote:


Why the fuck are you misrepresenting me? I questioned Moosy and am still on the fence about him, never changed him but it helped that he shared my view on CoolTL. I was thinking LS could be scum but unless he's bussing D1, cool and LS can't be scum together. And my points on cool are stronger than my suspicion on LS so my vote is staying where its at. How is that just a semi push on cool with no other suspicion?

Mind you, I've already said multiple times and its common knowledge that I don't really have time to get online Monday/Tuesday, so I've done what I can with my time up until now. It doesn't help that I'm stuck phone posting today.

On November 16 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:


You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on.

Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today.

On November 16 2015 06:06 The Shining wrote:
Like right now a bunch of posts and discussion have appeared and yet, just like I said, Eversince voted Farrah, mentioned no one else and is now gone. I don't like that because it's exactly what scum Eversince did when she came into thread last game.

And VE you claim a lot of people posted already so here's a list for you.

Scott, Moosy, Breshke, nocturne, ritoky, Trfel. Half the game still hasn't shown up so saying "so many" have posted and i should have townreads is just discrediting me and my playstyle. And fecal has made useless posts. Disformation asked a pointless question about FF just waking up, as if its alignment indicative and a joke vote proposal on voting Scott. These things are early enough for me to find them null until I see what they actually do.

On October 04 2015 05:47 The Shining wrote:
Probably the shittiest 20 or so pages I've had to read in this game. If you think I'm scum, just lynch me so you can keep cool around as the biggest question mark that avoided two lynches and lose the game tomorrow.

While you're at it, you can explain how scum Shining has been trying to bus scum cool since D1, since you have him as scum, rayn and Rels. Makes a lot of fucking sense. You too, Moosy. I should be looked into if cool is scum? When I've been trying to bury him for softing me as scum D2 and then never doing anything about it?

And Damdred is right, I begin to start looking at Trfels filter and starting to hash things out with RSo regarding her suspicion of him and he comes back with this huge case based on meta and what he thinks I should be doing with my time. I don't even want to waste my time with a little over an hour before EoD so I'll only cover some of the bigger points. Then you can ask me w.e you want.

On October 04 2015 07:07 The Shining wrote:
I hate this fucking game.

On October 07 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:
Welp gg town we lost. I don't even really care, I stopped caring for this game after the BS cool flip. I had every expectation of getting lynched today but I couldn't be assed to play the last few days cuz of IRL shit.

I do believe we got fucked this game because of the Damdred cc and weird balance but w.e. I'm pretty glad this game is going to be over soon anyway, too much BM from different people but I won't point any fingers. There was a reason why I left TL for a while. GG.

On November 22 2015 10:50 The Shining wrote:
I could probably get on that lynch, tbh, if I do end up agreeing that the too scummy to be scum stuff actually makes him scum. One thing I noticed in his filter was his change in tones as he got mad/frustrated. He was one of the hardest pushes onto Scott and even admitted after N1 that he was wrong on 3 of his scumread(VE,Scott, geript). But after saying he shouldn't lead town because he can't lynch scum(which is true, he didn't lynch Bresh d2), he gets onto Fecal and starts getting all huffy and puffy about no one listening to him. He even tried to shift the d1 lynch blame onto everyone else for following him.

That's 4 incorrect reads Trfel has had and 3 at the time when he tried to push Fecal. You would think he'd be a little hesitant and less confident after being wrong 3x, no? Why so confident to the point that we are all bad for not listening to him?

Also his read progression on disformation seemed odd. He defended disfo early, even claiming he had the longest filter up to a point in the game, and didn't discuss disfo much at all afterwards. There was his push into Farrah. Then disfo ends up on his "look into" list with Fecal. But no real discussion of disfo, just a case on Fecal. And disfo is now on his poe list with Onegu and FF. But he never really discussed the ES/Onegu slot except to say ES was impossible to read.

On November 22 2015 13:49 ritoky wrote:
yeah trfel + onegu also a potential world, but w/ 3 lynches if the only 3 worlds are:

onegu + NM
trfel + disfo
trfel + onegu

then we can cover all possibilities by lynching onegu or trfel today.

On November 23 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:


So you are happy no matter what?

On November 23 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:
Like I've said truffle

Why would ff push the case on Breske the way he did?

Why is your case so reliant on d1-2 things when you haven't updated with d3 things?

Honestly his posting today has been pretty good even if it is a short burst. So explain to me why I should lynch someone who obviously gives a shit (pun intended) today and seemingly is scrum hunting.

And why are you complaining when your second scrum read is leading the lynch?

On November 24 2015 05:45 Tictock wrote:
Damdred as Pride aka King Bradley (Godfather) has Survived!

On November 24 2015 05:51 Trfel wrote:
Nah, you were fine.

The big thing you did wrong is that you let me live so long When you make a big post with a bunch of reasons why I'm scum, and I only respond to half of them, what does that tell you about the other half? XD

On March 09 2015 23:00 kitaman27 wrote:
FecalFeast on the other hand appears to never get shot, making it to end game in 12 out of 13. Based on his winning percentage, mafia might need to rethink leaving him around.

TalkingDead
11-21-2015
04:42 AM ET (US)

I give you Breshke on a silver platter. I give you Trfel on a silver platter. Just fucking eat you retards.