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The anime was good but it was just missing a lot of things that made it super interesting | ||
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hopefully mafia would make life so much easier | ||
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This is a entrance post, if you guys have questions ask me | ||
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Some of d1, and sadly I am the vet. My time with you is shirt more than likely so work has to be done and some form of order to be established upon my death. | ||
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Will keep this edited as I go tonight/tomorrow catching up. 1) disformation 4) NocturneMage: From my experience with NM all of this seems to come from town. If you look at his last scum game he was rather lurky and had a hard time interacting or coming up with any type of concrete reasoning that could benefit the thread. Here he is asking rather pointed questions, is super involved whenever he is here and is constantly catching up as he goes. Hes a pretty strong town read to me at this point, the only thing that makes me hesitate is how long ago that scum game was and he could of improved. But its still strong enough for me to put him in my top town. 6) MoosyDoosy- Moosey Moosey Moosey, what am I going to do with you my friend? You do not care day one to only go over the top day two. I looked over Farahs read on Moosey and have decided d1 it is partly true, he obviously doesn't care if he survives or not. But I can really see him doing that as scum and hoping the gambit pays off or he goes out in a blaze of glory....but he cares more as scum which points him as scum d2... Crap, why you do this to me moosey? But seriously I don't think that as scum moosey would come out of the gates so fast and hard d2 to lead a case on Farah when he could sit back and see where the day is going. I would not sleep on him later in the game, but I think hes a good shot for town so far. 7) Breshke 8) ritoky 9) Fecalfeast 10) The Shining- This one is pretty easy took me like four seconds of looking at his filter. Shows random emotions when talking with people and is somewhat frustrated trying to get to the heart of the matter when he is talking to eversince at the start. He also continues caring about what he asks and trying to stay involved in the thread at points. He is never in danger of being lynched and is pretty involved he is a pretty sure fire lock town for me at this point. I probably will re-evaluate him before the night is over but as it stands now he is on my do not lynch list. 11) Trfel 12) FarahBlackwing replaced by Damdred- I'M ARMSTRONG LOOK AT MY RIPPLING MUSCLES. 13) Eversince- meh, some of the early posts seemed okish? Still hasn't been here though I do not think that I would waste a lynch on ever today but can't lynch someone whos not there in mylo either. Still its better to hunt scum outside the totally afk player, early posts made me think somewhat town though. Not all people have a read right now but that's where I am at. 6 People who I haven't read yet or am super concerned about. If the Big is in disformation, trfel, breshke, eversince. You have to claim right now or when you see this post. You make the game so much easier and give town so much more to go on. I'll probably make my decision on Ritoky in the morning and go from there any other direct questions and i'll answer while i'm here | ||
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what do we gain from an ever lynch exactly? Nothing at all. Anyway I want some tense moments between us. Besides that I need to check truffles scum game, but I'm sorta doubting that scum truffle sees town moos and town breshke up and gets offended nobody listens to him about Scott. If trfel is scum probably scum with breshke but probably not on a gut feeling which I need to proof | ||
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Tgere is unflippwd association as breshke being scum heavily implies trfel is as well. Also its worth thinking about where is the waffle in truffles play? Hard to say he's been really sure about everything all game. I'm hoping he's the big trying to make a play | ||
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If we want to lynch ever we have to do it today or else not at all if she remains afk due to coin flip to end game meh. I really want the big to claim, ve looked really town to meh << | ||
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And until we learn who the big shot we can't use either geripts or be read on who they think is scum or not. Anyway just got home so going to do some reading. | ||
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Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1? | ||
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##vote breshke I think that is a decent place for a vote atm need to look at the votes a bit more | ||
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Yoi weren't a coin flip ever is at best | ||
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He has two hard scum reads he cases but doesn't shoot any and as far as I can tell piles up on trfel instead of looking at disformation during this phase. | ||
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And that's bad ritoky eliminating someone for that lol | ||
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Plus a few good points against breshke have already been brought up. Anyway if trfel is scum ots probable breshke is, however if breshke is scum its not lock trfel is roughly. Which is bad reasoning | ||
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And I stand by my claim. | ||
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You draw conclusions that geript is trying to save mafia Scott by pushing on town breshke and defends town breshke. You mention maybe you should look at breshke today, but then when someone actually somewhat cases them you immediately jump on them and say that they are taking the easiest path... Always attack people who attack breshke its a thing in your filter. | ||
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The vote is a bit worrying I suppose but I'll think and post in a bit | ||
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So what exactly do you like now? And dis of course it's nerve racking some people I'm not sure of are on here and unless the scum team is exactly Breshke Trfel and ever something isn't right. | ||
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Anyway I'll randomly pick a filter to look through again | ||
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On November 21 2015 01:27 NocturneMage wrote: Damdred I'm not the most experienced player in the world, but I can see why you are saying everyone voting him makes you nervous. I am more than happy to start a second legitimate wagon on Trfel to be quite honest. Problem is I think that we have two policy lynches, ie ever and Breshke. Someone who has acted crummy Breshke and ff to an extent. Trfel who is a hard line. And the worst thing is I think Trfel is town out of all this | ||
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What's the play exactly? Everyone has basically piled onto Breshke but scum!Trfel instead of going for the town cred starts pushing on fecalfeast? If Breshke flips scum where does that leave trfel? I'll let you answer first before I keep going nm | ||
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On November 21 2015 01:47 NocturneMage wrote: well in newbie 13, you tagged me for being the last player to bus my scum teammate. I still remember that. if scum Trfel were to just pile on late in ths game here, he'd be tagged for bussing, or at least he should be. he wouldn't be getting the credit. so he has to find some other reason to push someone else who he feels isn't doing anything. if trfel piled on breshke, he gets no credit, and as I remember from 13 he will be suspected for bussing. I think he has to find a reason to push someone because he might just have no choice here. Ok so, we can establish that at this point Trfel going on Breshke would give little cred. Question two it was pretty obvious early that Breshke was totally Mia, however Breshke pushes against thread sentiment. What's the scum play there? Wouldn't there be cred if he jumps on early? Now final question ans probable the best question. Why does scum!Trfel push town!Scott over town!moosey when moosey was dead in thewater? | ||
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I mean a ff Breshke and ever team isn't the worst idea. But I'm not so sure entirely. Disfo talk me through your read progression on Trfel and ritoky. | ||
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Now let's say momentum is going directly onto Breshke because of geript. By the posts own admission Trfel thinks moosey is the second likely scum but wants Scott first. Why hard defend Breshke against geript and push town Scott more when its just as good to say both Scott and moosey are town I'll help hammer moosey and I can get afk Scott tommorow? It makes less sense of scum to do than you thunk. This makes him less likely scum, unless you think that Breshke would be lynched and Trfel was trying to save him,no matter what and wanting to go against town geript to bring more ! negative attention. | ||
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On November 21 2015 04:11 disformation wrote: cooking time. random sidenote thought: damdred you haven't given your soulread on ritoky yet, right? Do you suspect he might not be town? This is something I was hoping nobody would ask tbf. There are certain elements that remind me of town ritoky, pointed questions. There are other areas that really give me pause, weird eod voting Scott and granted that post eod Scott made would make me flip knowing that. However his light blame on Farah I believe for not switching gives me pause. Some of his other lack of thread prescense and not really driving a lynch worries me. | ||
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On November 21 2015 04:29 NocturneMage wrote: he was going to "save" breshke either way. he was going to go against geript either way, that is the point I was trying to make. if I'm still missing the point damdred then let me know. But do you think he really needed to? Look how easily everyone came off Breshke to go to Scott. Now that would be interesting to see with a small bit of yelling a great flock left both to lynch Scott. | ||
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7 v 3 5 v 3 4 v 3 If both are towns 7 v 3 6 v 2 5 v 2 4 v 2 3 v 2-lylo If one town one scum 7 v 3 7 v 1 6 v 1 Lots of ML till lylo if both scum | ||
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On November 21 2015 04:56 Trfel wrote: I'm here. Doesn't look like there's much that can be done at this point. I don't know what to say any more, I hate people ignoring my posts and doing their own thing. It's not possible for me to do everything by myself... Though this post is scummy | ||
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On November 18 2015 04:35 Tictock wrote: Day 1 Votecount MoosyDoosy (3): Breshke (3): geript, FarahBlackwing, disformation The Shining (1): scott31337 (1): FarahBlackwing (1): Eversince, Fecalfeast (1): VisceraEyes mooseydoosey (1): Trfel (0): VisceraEyes (0): disinformation (0): Not Voting (1): The Shining, MoosyDoosy It looks like MoosyDoosy will be facing the court-martial for treason in leading the vote with 3 votes! Voting is Mandatory! Do not forget to vote! Vote tracker may be found here. This is an important vote count, disformation and Farah both sheep geript one off dis and one off moos. Its true both move to Scott but it's dis stays much longer there than my slot. Fecal can you explain why you moved your vote like you did without being caught up in the thread? | ||
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On November 21 2015 05:26 Trfel wrote: I don't see how Fecalfeast can be town here. Breshke was obviously bussed. My push on Fecalfeast would have given mafia a golden opportunity to switch off of Breshke, but nothing happened. In addition to all of Fecalfeast's play, that absolutely confirms him as mafia. Take a step back look for,the next scum I'll handle the ff angle for a little | ||
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1) was Breshke the most dead in the water? The answer to this question is yes, before nm switched it was 6-1-1 Even if the scum team switched it would be 4-4-1 and I don't think that nm would switch with that plus it reveals the scum team the next day if Trfel flips town. Ff vote on Scott makes him look bad when it occured to put him above Breshke. Rits vote on Scott looks bad overall plus his refusal to really evaluate or pay attention to the case geript+disf+Farah commented on. Its highly likely rit is at least scum. | ||
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On November 21 2015 05:35 Fecalfeast wrote: Wait so I really did bus my roleblocker? Really? lol I switched votes because it seemed like a good idea at the time, damdred. I was awake too close to deadline to catch up and went with the people I liked at the time Who were the people you liked btw | ||
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But yeah | ||
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No way this is scum shining | ||
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if I was scum I would shoot me today then finish me tommorow so I wasn't in lylo with them! LOL Mages is a bit odd, his play in general has been pretty towny looking. But the eod is a bit odd, he did start actually pushing trfel on a counter wagon even though I suggested it but he didn't really push that hard either. Maybe because I was pushing against a trfel lynch. There could be something there but I need to reread him again. ALSO town points for anyone who will do leg work to look who auto accepted my claim as vet, ignored it and those who were like has to be not true. | ||
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Damdrrd- confirmed Shining- town Now lets go from there I want each person to play a game with me, tell me why I should town read you. And who you think is most likely town (one person) and why. | ||
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Ritoky/Trfel/Onegu probably wins the game 9/10 times. I'm probably most tinfoil about disformation and Fecal though. For instance disformation posting look pretty good in context, but anyone who strictly quotes someones last reads before they die it always makes me suspicious lolol. Then theres always the whole first scum game you roll you always are more likely to bus your team mates early in the game ie breshke day one. But he also came off breshke super easy d1 but he could of stayed on moosy the whole time to. But on the other hand he put in a ton of work his posts seem like they are pretty towny focused. My gut is torn honestly but just for effort and doing things I think hes probably super town. Right now this is my list of certainty Damdred Shining NocturneMage Disformation FecalFeast Onegu Ritoky Trfel The nightkill after the lynch will be pretty informative to a degree. maybe shining will get nk and he won't have to worry about playing Monday-wensday next week lolol. I'm super waffly on disformation down. FF loves rolling scum just so everyone knows and puts in a shit ton of work when hes scum to a point. I still remember you casing me as scum FF because I was overly afk... God so difficult i'll make a decision by the morning who I think would be best. Also its worth noting that Onegu does try more as scum to a point and doesn't care as town...screw you guys on the bottom half the list, even trfel has towny qualities to some point. | ||
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We all lynched breshke and that turned out ok. Today you haven't said anything but complained about being scum read. So why should I town read you? And ritoky most of the game voted mafia no town cred from d2 for anyone especially when you pushed off mafia d1 teehee | ||
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Trfel/ff/ritoky/oneg I want to town read ritoky and ff. Especially ff at this point. I mean it could just be easy but I'm not sure. I'm tempted to lynch Trfel but oneg will just be a flip tommorow to.. | ||
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Breshke never pushes ff for horrible reasons.. This is an interesting day | ||
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Tell me disf why do you think Trfel could be town maybe? Any reason | ||
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To me it seems moosey was the preference for scum going into the last 8-10 hours. No real counter wagon and we only see a flurry of people when moosey wagon starts breaking down. Way I'm reading it, Moosey maxed out at 5-6 votes The majority of the game is scattered about Trfel pushes a Scott lynch but states would be willing to lynch moosey as well just prefers moosey. Goes afk. Farah starts moving back and forth between Scott, Disfo being indecisive but doesn't want to lynch moosey. Geript pushes Breshke and gains Disfo and Farah tying him with moosey but not drawing ahead. Trfel shows up and yells about lynching Scott. Farah switches to Scott. Ff when he arrives votes Scott putting him into a 3-3-2 tie with moosey but ahead of Breshke. From this moment on Breshke has no chance of being lynched Trfel and ritoky stone wall the idea of lynching Breshke. People pile up on Scott, he gives a last second will ritoky freaks out and switches. Now what do you think is the most interesting thing in it disfo? | ||
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Another good one is if you are ok with a moosey lynch why push another town over him? | ||
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That seems towny to me | ||
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Like that would,make the game super easy. | ||
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Also reasons I think rit is town. Now we are down to one Trfel and ff. One thing that worries me is ff voting and then leaving today without pushing. Oneg still isn't doing anything. Trfel is pulling a breshkr | ||
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So maybe it just is easy oneg+Trfel. But ##vote onegu Let's do this, we won't ever get anything from him plus if we are wrong on Trfel gives us more time to re evaluate. | ||
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Why would ff push the case on Breske the way he did? Why is your case so reliant on d1-2 things when you haven't updated with d3 things? Honestly his posting today has been pretty good even if it is a short burst. So explain to me why I should lynch someone who obviously gives a shit (pun intended) today and seemingly is scrum hunting. And why are you complaining when your second scrum read is leading the lynch? | ||
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You are missing the trees for the forest. Its also interesting how much trfel pushes the vig to not claim in that situation as well. | ||
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Evers slot probably should of been modkilled instead of replaced. Anything past early d2 is to long a time to allow fresh insite into the game. My replacement is not as badly done as some people make it seem. It sucked for scum me coming into a vet slot, however what's the difference between pushing me and pushing Farah? The difference is a mind set thing rather than an actual game play. Besides that people have been subbed put for reasons of not wanting to play and time constraints which Farah had as she had 4 horridshifts the next day Anyway good game town. And scum played well d1 and somewhat d2. | ||
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For example moosey was super tunneled on my slot then instantly stops because its me. If the scum team had tried could of went after me I had plenty of people suspicious. The game changed because of peoples views and breshke not trying. And my read on you slightly. | ||
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