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On November 21 2015 09:18 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2015 09:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky if I gave you a gun and told you to shoot anyone who isn't shining, would you use it? On whom?
I'm not feeling extra funny right now sorry bb. it's okay i think i might go shave to calm myself. shooting ever is always the correct play, but i am in a mood right now so i would shoot NM cuz yolo tinfoil.
cuz basically in the scenario where i can't shoot shining cuz town shielded i am here:
town:
ritoky
disform
damdred
moosy
shining
other:
ff
ever
trfel
NM
if i pull out ff cuz he has basically been trying to get me to cheat on my wife all game by looking at me tantalizingly from the corner, then we have
ever, trfel, NM
and if my read on trfel is right that 1 between trfel and breshke, then i have a team of exactly: ever, NM....which i am not sure how i feel about that right now. but if shining is town then lynching those 3 wins the game in all likelihood.
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On November 21 2015 09:23 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2015 09:18 ritoky wrote:On November 21 2015 09:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky if I gave you a gun and told you to shoot anyone who isn't shining, would you use it? On whom?
I'm not feeling extra funny right now sorry bb. it's okay i think i might go shave to calm myself. shooting ever is always the correct play, but i am in a mood right now so i would shoot NM cuz yolo tinfoil. I meant to ask about that before we started our back and forth. Why is NM the tinfoil? Any reason in particular or gut feeling? Feel free to disregard because you think I'm scum but I'm not and this could help my read on you
it was the "lynching trfel and not listening to anything tmrw" post. was really the 1st time he gave me pause all game. idk it was just a really bizarre post all things considered.
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On November 21 2015 09:27 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2015 09:18 ritoky wrote:On November 21 2015 09:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky if I gave you a gun and told you to shoot anyone who isn't shining, would you use it? On whom?
I'm not feeling extra funny right now sorry bb. it's okay i think i might go shave to calm myself. shooting ever is always the correct play, but i am in a mood right now so i would shoot NM cuz yolo tinfoil. Actually wait. Why wouldn't you shoot FF? He's still in your doodoo pile, you still think he's scum?
because he pocketed me by reading me town after i got angry.
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yo shining, imagine a world i am town (like i did earlier w/ you and cuz it is the real world) what 3 lynches win the game?
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disform's read have been flipping on a dime all game based on thread sentiment; it is nothing new. he is probably just easily influenced town though cuz of the post where he suggested lynching himself early and his sheeping onto breshke day 1. of non-conf town he is the most town in the game; not even close to being close.
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On November 21 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's the full argument for trfel and breshke being opposite alignments?
basically in the rules it states:
"The homunculli will know which of these is accurate, but members of the State will not."
meaning the mafia knew the game setup from the start. this means they knew there was no investigative power. assuming they are players with brains this means hard i expect less hard aligning from mafia. trfel pretty much hard defended breshke day 1; and then on day 2 tried to push off of breshke against an overwhelming majority onto a lynch clearly no1 was getting on board at the time. so pretty much you have to assume they hard aligned after knowing the setup and how it was not beneficial to hard align, then instead of going for credit and lynching his partner he pushed against every town read of his onto someone he thought was scum.
there's another point but i forgot it and am getting rdy for work.
also his passion when ppl wanted to lynch him are the feelz
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On November 21 2015 10:20 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:
disform's read have been flipping on a dime all game based on thread sentiment; it is nothing new. he is probably just easily influenced town though cuz of the post where he suggested lynching himself early and his sheeping onto breshke day 1. of non-conf town he is the most town in the game; not even close to being close. I mean, isn't that normally a scum tell? It is for me. And he was well aware that he's done it in all his past town games so its not like he can't use that card to his advantage. How early/late did he sheep onto Breshke? I have to check that, cuz a vote is always changeable until EoD. And I'll go reread the post where he suggested lynching himself because he's been pretty much a pass for everyone recently. I'm wondering how genuine that suggestion was.
Normally it is a scum tell yes. But he is a new player right? And haven't like all other new players subbed out of this game so this is basically a 0 newbie game? I can see being swayed. Idk, maybe...it is just hard for me to see many new players have the gusto to suggest lynching themselves immediately. And he was very quick onto breshke...also kinda quick off too.
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On November 21 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2015 10:28 ritoky wrote:On November 21 2015 10:20 The Shining wrote:On November 21 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:
disform's read have been flipping on a dime all game based on thread sentiment; it is nothing new. he is probably just easily influenced town though cuz of the post where he suggested lynching himself early and his sheeping onto breshke day 1. of non-conf town he is the most town in the game; not even close to being close. I mean, isn't that normally a scum tell? It is for me. And he was well aware that he's done it in all his past town games so its not like he can't use that card to his advantage. How early/late did he sheep onto Breshke? I have to check that, cuz a vote is always changeable until EoD. And I'll go reread the post where he suggested lynching himself because he's been pretty much a pass for everyone recently. I'm wondering how genuine that suggestion was. Normally it is a scum tell yes. But he is a new player right? And haven't like all other new players subbed out of this game so this is basically a 0 newbie game? I can see being swayed. Idk, maybe...it is just hard for me to see many new players have the gusto to suggest lynching themselves immediately. And he was very quick onto breshke...also kinda quick off too. Iirc this is his 5th or 6th game? So that does make sense. But if he were scum, it would be his first game. This is def reaching but you never know if he was overwhelmed by rolling scum and took a gambit with suggesting we lynch him. That's not something I can ever tell or prove tho. Like, his waffliness only makes me waffle on him so hard. It's a vicious cycle. =/
you mean:
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or
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going to work soon. phone posting periodically....but probably not at all because ppl like to get drunk and hurt themselves or stick things in their ass on friday nights.
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that's not a joke either. i have worked in the ER for over a few yrs now and ppl seem to get things stuck in their ass most frequently on friday nights.....it is bizarre, the world has some weird tendencies.
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shining, we need to have a come to jesus moment.
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so basically i took your advice, went back and read our previous game together where you said we were both town and my read on you was hot trash. turns out my read on you this game is like verbatim the exact same shit....you might just be one of those people for me...
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On November 22 2015 08:04 NocturneMage wrote:
whilst you're here ritoky, mind explaining to me what a soul read is? some extension of a meta read?
soul read is a term used for a meta read/tone read shared between 2 people that is above 90% accuracy.
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btw your entire case has either already been addressed, just wrong, or straight falsification btw.
for example: you talk about ff's breshke case impacting my vote or read. it didn't. i have a read of 1 between trfel and breshke because of setup and mafia knowing about setup that you can't seem to grasp or refuse to grasp cuz it implicates you. trfel got mad and felt town, ff felt town, breshke felt not here. voted breshke. pretty simple shit. every case made against breshke that didn't say "he is afk" this game was shit. like literal shit. he just so happened to end up being mafia.
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On November 22 2015 08:09 NocturneMage wrote:
cheers ritoky. a bit foreign how I could believe in the event two people "soul-reading" each other are both mafia, but that is besides the point. a ways to go for me before I can even think of metareading...
so you think that me and damdred are mafia?
damdred is the only person i have a soul read on....and he is blue so it is pointless; but he already said his soul read on me says i am town.
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also just a warning to everyone, my activity level may drop substantially between now and friday...i will do my best, but i have family flying in and staying for thanksgiving and such.
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getting ready to head to the airport to pick up family.
yes breshke and trfel have both played enough games to understand bussing is more advantageous than not in a game where the mod tells you "0 investigations" from moment 1. i would expect them to act accordingly. i am willing to admit it isn't a perfect read that guarantees trfel is town; but i like my unorthodox reads.
i think my read on shining might just be dogshit and he might just be town and i might just have a terrible read on him. disfo is nearly conf town from vote perspective. damdred is blue. i am town. so pretty much i need to find a town between trfel, onegu, NM, and ff and then we just lynch the rest and win the game.
currently i think ff is most town, so onegu/nm/trfel wins the game.
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damdred you've lost you're being like me last game, but it's fine i will carry you like you tried to carry me. i think lynching onegu and trfel gets us to mylo and i am willing to knife fight whoever is there if i must.
only i can lynch mafia and go from being top TR to mafia read, #townproblems
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EBWOP you've lost your read
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so ff, is it NM or disfo?
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to me the game is very simple. and i think you guys are doing all this crazy shit overcomplicating it.
i am town -> most town all game, lynched mafia, who am i bussing? (self-metametametametameta)
damdred is town -> blue
ff is town -> tone + willing to be PoE
shining is town -> my read is shit, confirmed it was shit, accepting others
lynch these people and we win or get to mylo:
tfel
onegu
remainder:
NM -> lots of effort and cases, bizarre trfel post after flip, rando sudden push on me, not reading my responses, probably not mafia if trfel mafia though.
disfo -> procedurally should be town for vote thing, but PoE + opinions move like water
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EPT
