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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:14 GMT
#1242
On November 20 2015 05:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Ok since nobody is claiming a shot and allowing town to parse the data ever since has to be the vigilante since I don't think any of you guys could be that bad. Like really if the big isn't ever you are hurting town so much right now.

And until we learn who the big shot we can't use either geripts or be read on who they think is scum or not.

Anyway just got home so going to do some reading.

I was vigilante and shot VE because I wanted to see how Trfel's read on him turned out and also because I have no idea how to read him. Which leaves me with the situation where I want disformation dead and a situation where I want Trfel dead.


hard claim?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:27 GMT
#1244
On November 20 2015 07:03 disformation wrote:
ritoky can you explain why you want to lynch trfel?


2 reasons primarily:

1) The following sentence is probably the most awkward/scummy sentence in the entire thread.

On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.


2) Trfel procedurally understands the game enough to not push relentlessly on an uncc'd blue. There's a difference between "I scum read this person for a couple posts to make sure they hold their claim" and what he was doing. He was legitimately applying pressure. I had begun to consider the tinfoil world where he might be doctor, but damdred enters the game maintains the claim, and he backs off. So it wasn't cc based, it wasn't good play, so it was probably just mafia.

Reasons why I greatly prefer trfel to breshke:

1) I think trfel has done mafia things, I don't think breshke has done much of anything. Breshke is in the pile of ff and ever of not doing anything to significantly impact the game and 1 or 2 of them are probably mafia.

2) 1 of the primary reasons for people pushing breshke (geript's isolated questions and blah blah read) was just factually false.

3) I don't think trfel and breshke are together and I think trfel is mafia. I say this primarily because of setup. It is a set-up with only a 50% chance of having investigative power and a guaranteed GF. This means that distancing and busing are more optimal than hard defense and aligning; and trfel has been REALLY defending breshke (like since p1 of his filter defending) pretty much all game. I think both trfel and breshke are good enough players to recognize that about the setup and I sincerely doubt that trfel hard defends his partner so early. Probably a case of mafia trying to pocket town.

imo lynch pool right now should be something like:
trfel - reasons above
ever - already said why
ff - hasn't shit town rainbow yet, disengaged
shining - same as before + extra dropoff + not scum hunting.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:33 GMT
#1246
i said above....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:38 GMT
#1249
On November 20 2015 07:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Wait wait moosey nobody ask him this until he answers.

Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1?

I was confident that Farah was scum and that I would secure her lynch during D2. Which would have been the case had she not acted scummy as fuck because she was blue sigh. It was better for me to kill someone I was unsure of how to read and to get a check on Trfel.


Why wait 24 hours to claim?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:42 GMT
#1253
it isn't the best but it's better than anything i have for the other 2 coinflips in ff and ever.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:45 GMT
#1256
On November 20 2015 07:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:38 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Wait wait moosey nobody ask him this until he answers.

Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1?

I was confident that Farah was scum and that I would secure her lynch during D2. Which would have been the case had she not acted scummy as fuck because she was blue sigh. It was better for me to kill someone I was unsure of how to read and to get a check on Trfel.


Why wait 24 hours to claim?

The hero side of me wanted Mafia to claim and for me to counter claim.


no point in lecturing on why this is a selfish and sub-optimal play...it was.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:53 GMT
#1263
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:55 GMT
#1266
On November 20 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times

I give a town read and then you give a town read. I'll go first since you your baby.

MoosyDoosy


ritoky
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:59 GMT
#1269
On November 20 2015 07:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times

I give a town read and then you give a town read. I'll go first since you your baby.

MoosyDoosy


ritoky

Shining


Ew.

Nocturnemage
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:59 GMT
#1270
On November 20 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:
Like, I'm pouring so much time into this game. During my exam week, when I said I'd be busy.

And now I'm being lynched because "geript said..." When geript didn't do a single towny thing all game long?

I don't care that geript's flipped town, that DOES NOT make him right. AS PROVEN BY MY ROLE PM.

Use a bit of sense.


so who's mafia then? why did you back off damdred if his slot's play made no sense?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:03 GMT
#1273
On November 20 2015 08:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times

I give a town read and then you give a town read. I'll go first since you your baby.

MoosyDoosy


ritoky

Shining


Ew.

Nocturnemage

Heh.

Fecalfeast


?

damdred
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:05 GMT
#1275
i feel like you're going for style points in this game and i am going top to bottom on my town list lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:06 GMT
#1276
disform
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:10 GMT
#1279
On November 20 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
disform

cool. Thanks for your participation. So we kill Trfel and Breshke.


i mean you did TR 3 of the 4 people on my scum list back-to-back-to-back.......
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 02:13 GMT
#1296
pretty good post by trfel about ff. + trfel angry might mean trfel the town out of trfel/breshke and i was just wrong.

pretty good post by ff about breshke. hate that it took a good case on him to prompt it though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:17 GMT
#1304
it still really irks me that ff only did something after he got cased.

random thought: if breshke is mafia, ff can still easily be with him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:19 GMT
#1305
people who haven't done a thing in over 24 hours: shining, ever, breshke
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:22 GMT
#1307
don't be mad at me i give you a town pass, then ask you to do stuff, and then you only do stuff when you feel threatened; how am i not supposed to find that odd?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:25 GMT
#1308
##vote: breshke

also in support of a shining or ever lynch. might be convinced of an ff lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:26 GMT
#1309
break from work is over, holiday depression in the ER. will check periodically.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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