• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:45
CEST 00:45
KST 07:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On8Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition195.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)91$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
BarrackS' ASL S20 Ro.8 Review&Power of Friendship Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Thoughts on rarely used units RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1519 users

Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition - Page 7

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 11 Next All
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:14 GMT
#1242
On November 20 2015 05:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Ok since nobody is claiming a shot and allowing town to parse the data ever since has to be the vigilante since I don't think any of you guys could be that bad. Like really if the big isn't ever you are hurting town so much right now.

And until we learn who the big shot we can't use either geripts or be read on who they think is scum or not.

Anyway just got home so going to do some reading.

I was vigilante and shot VE because I wanted to see how Trfel's read on him turned out and also because I have no idea how to read him. Which leaves me with the situation where I want disformation dead and a situation where I want Trfel dead.


hard claim?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:27 GMT
#1244
On November 20 2015 07:03 disformation wrote:
ritoky can you explain why you want to lynch trfel?


2 reasons primarily:

1) The following sentence is probably the most awkward/scummy sentence in the entire thread.

On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?

This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.

Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.

Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.

He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.

So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?

I don't like this one bit.


2) Trfel procedurally understands the game enough to not push relentlessly on an uncc'd blue. There's a difference between "I scum read this person for a couple posts to make sure they hold their claim" and what he was doing. He was legitimately applying pressure. I had begun to consider the tinfoil world where he might be doctor, but damdred enters the game maintains the claim, and he backs off. So it wasn't cc based, it wasn't good play, so it was probably just mafia.

Reasons why I greatly prefer trfel to breshke:

1) I think trfel has done mafia things, I don't think breshke has done much of anything. Breshke is in the pile of ff and ever of not doing anything to significantly impact the game and 1 or 2 of them are probably mafia.

2) 1 of the primary reasons for people pushing breshke (geript's isolated questions and blah blah read) was just factually false.

3) I don't think trfel and breshke are together and I think trfel is mafia. I say this primarily because of setup. It is a set-up with only a 50% chance of having investigative power and a guaranteed GF. This means that distancing and busing are more optimal than hard defense and aligning; and trfel has been REALLY defending breshke (like since p1 of his filter defending) pretty much all game. I think both trfel and breshke are good enough players to recognize that about the setup and I sincerely doubt that trfel hard defends his partner so early. Probably a case of mafia trying to pocket town.

imo lynch pool right now should be something like:
trfel - reasons above
ever - already said why
ff - hasn't shit town rainbow yet, disengaged
shining - same as before + extra dropoff + not scum hunting.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:33 GMT
#1246
i said above....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:38 GMT
#1249
On November 20 2015 07:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Wait wait moosey nobody ask him this until he answers.

Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1?

I was confident that Farah was scum and that I would secure her lynch during D2. Which would have been the case had she not acted scummy as fuck because she was blue sigh. It was better for me to kill someone I was unsure of how to read and to get a check on Trfel.


Why wait 24 hours to claim?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:42 GMT
#1253
it isn't the best but it's better than anything i have for the other 2 coinflips in ff and ever.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:45 GMT
#1256
On November 20 2015 07:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:38 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Wait wait moosey nobody ask him this until he answers.

Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1?

I was confident that Farah was scum and that I would secure her lynch during D2. Which would have been the case had she not acted scummy as fuck because she was blue sigh. It was better for me to kill someone I was unsure of how to read and to get a check on Trfel.


Why wait 24 hours to claim?

The hero side of me wanted Mafia to claim and for me to counter claim.


no point in lecturing on why this is a selfish and sub-optimal play...it was.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:53 GMT
#1263
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:55 GMT
#1266
On November 20 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times

I give a town read and then you give a town read. I'll go first since you your baby.

MoosyDoosy


ritoky
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:59 GMT
#1269
On November 20 2015 07:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times

I give a town read and then you give a town read. I'll go first since you your baby.

MoosyDoosy


ritoky

Shining


Ew.

Nocturnemage
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 22:59 GMT
#1270
On November 20 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:
Like, I'm pouring so much time into this game. During my exam week, when I said I'd be busy.

And now I'm being lynched because "geript said..." When geript didn't do a single towny thing all game long?

I don't care that geript's flipped town, that DOES NOT make him right. AS PROVEN BY MY ROLE PM.

Use a bit of sense.


so who's mafia then? why did you back off damdred if his slot's play made no sense?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:03 GMT
#1273
On November 20 2015 08:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2015 07:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yooo ritoky you here? Let's play a brief fun game.


i am here, have a baby in my arms so slightly delayed response times

I give a town read and then you give a town read. I'll go first since you your baby.

MoosyDoosy


ritoky

Shining


Ew.

Nocturnemage

Heh.

Fecalfeast


?

damdred
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:05 GMT
#1275
i feel like you're going for style points in this game and i am going top to bottom on my town list lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:06 GMT
#1276
disform
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 19 2015 23:10 GMT
#1279
On November 20 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2015 08:06 ritoky wrote:
disform

cool. Thanks for your participation. So we kill Trfel and Breshke.


i mean you did TR 3 of the 4 people on my scum list back-to-back-to-back.......
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 02:13 GMT
#1296
pretty good post by trfel about ff. + trfel angry might mean trfel the town out of trfel/breshke and i was just wrong.

pretty good post by ff about breshke. hate that it took a good case on him to prompt it though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:17 GMT
#1304
it still really irks me that ff only did something after he got cased.

random thought: if breshke is mafia, ff can still easily be with him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:19 GMT
#1305
people who haven't done a thing in over 24 hours: shining, ever, breshke
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:22 GMT
#1307
don't be mad at me i give you a town pass, then ask you to do stuff, and then you only do stuff when you feel threatened; how am i not supposed to find that odd?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:25 GMT
#1308
##vote: breshke

also in support of a shining or ever lynch. might be convinced of an ff lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 20 2015 05:26 GMT
#1309
break from work is over, holiday depression in the ER. will check periodically.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#16
ZZZero.O148
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 154
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15225
Rain 4798
ZZZero.O 148
sSak 120
Larva 112
Dewaltoss 101
NaDa 31
ggaemo 24
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
Dota 2
canceldota85
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 879
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K332
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe23
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor290
Other Games
summit1g6682
FrodaN3727
Grubby3316
Mlord583
KnowMe223
C9.Mang0210
UpATreeSC182
Sick142
XaKoH 98
Trikslyr73
ViBE51
Mew2King46
JuggernautJason15
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1308
gamesdonequick1050
BasetradeTV20
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 59
• davetesta51
• Hupsaiya 45
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21543
• WagamamaTV689
• Ler91
Other Games
• imaqtpie1569
• tFFMrPink 14
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 15m
BSL Team Wars
20h 15m
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
IPSL
20h 15m
DragOn vs Fear
Radley vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
OSC
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.