Unfortunately, I don't have as much time to put into this game as I had in the past so I'll have to post this now in the >0.001% chance that I'm killed during night as I don't think I'll be able to make it back before EoN1 (End of Night 1). So here's my stuff on disformation, but note that I'd strongly like to lynch FarahBlackwing over disformation.
1. disformation is way too self conscious. I realize that this can be interpreted as a newbie town trait, but the extent to which disformation keeps tabs on his appearance and of his own meta is super overboard for even a newbie. Just taking a look at EoD1 shows this self consciousness.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 02:02 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 01:56 FarahBlackwing wrote:
This is a hard game.
And i'm still not sure what to make of disinformation he keeps pointing out these scummy things people do but then ends up with something that could make them town. And really won't commit to a read either way this close to lynch, I almost would rather lynch him at this point maybe. welcome to disformation town play. I am calling myself waffleboy for a reason.  A pity tunneltock is hosting this and not playing. We make a great team. xD Still finishing up on MoosyDoosy. Probably The Shining and Farah after that. The thing is: I can see a bunch of ppl getting like 1 free day (Eversince, The Shining, MoosyDoosy, scott), depending on the lynch of course and that worries me a bit because we have huge potential for maffay just coasting by. On November 18 2015 03:06 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke... Shit. I really need to get into the habit of drawing conclusions. Was skimming Breshke's filter and didn't get too suspicious. Taking a closer look at stuff like this raises some red flags. Will look more closely, if I find more of this I might find it in me to vote for him. I have played 1-2 games with breshke but I found him to be rather unmemorable, which probably means I didn't have enough interactions with him, which will make it hard for me to compare this to his normal game.
Now the very interesting thing about the people that disformation listed in the quotes (Eversince, Shining, Moosy, scott), is that I think they're all town and scott was confirmed as town. This makes me interpret disformation's slight push onto these people as a way to divert attention away from others and from himself. The VERY interesting thing is how disformation forms these slight pushes. He always makes posts that only lean and never push, creating sentiment but never putting him directly under anyone's crosshairs.
2. disformation also refused to take any stances for EoD1. First he votes for Shining on the basis of "pressure".
+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2015 20:29 disformation wrote:
The lack ofproper trains like 8 hours b4 deadline also worries me.
shining wasnt here in ages... maybe setting him on blast will change this...
##unvote
##vote The Shining
voting on phone sucks
Then he seemed happy enough to vote for me.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2015 22:03 disformation wrote:
wow. dealine in 7hours and town has no clue to lynch. i wish i was good at this game and had a solid scum read...
defaulting to moosy for now. will try to figure out something when i am back on a pc.
##unvote
##vote MoosyDoosy
Then he votes for Breshke.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 03:23 disformation wrote:Hmm... Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 12:14 Breshke wrote:Moosey do you understand that if you are town that your play is just distracting the rest of town and really hurts your chances of people listening to you. It also lets people just cop out and just talk about you being a shithead. For example On November 17 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:On November 17 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 07:33 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?
What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post? I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him". IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc Sorry, I didn't mean your thoughts on VisceraEyes' stance on Fecalfeast, I was looking for your thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast (two separate reads). I don't really understand the whole 7 thing at all. You know that geript is a strong scum player, so why wouldn't he want attention to be paid to his reads? Is geript a player who hides in a corner as mafia? On November 17 2015 07:35 Breshke wrote:On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.
The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.
So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise? On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. Yes, he did. On November 17 2015 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 17 2015 00:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm awake,
Anyway I probably will be mostly afk today so I'll try to be concise about my feelings.
1) I am super sure that Shining is town, based on meta and his posts give me a good feeling about them. They are pointed even if you disagree with what he is doing this is an excellent showing of his day one town play. Just a pity we won't see him again until wensday.
2) NocturneMage recent flurry of postings have giving me a good feeling, it felt like he was interacting with the thread as he was catching up instead of trying to be useless and lurking. He also instead of giving excuses is being proactive and trying to get thoughts out there. Good townlean, or at least not lynching today.
3) I'm not sure how people are so sure of VE so early? I probably don't get it because I never have played with him, but the town case on him seemed good and simplistic. So I suppose I will throw him into my town pile and then re-evaluate later.
4) I am not super confident in my eversince read, but I feel like she is town this game.
I also think ritoky is town, but i'm probably the least confident in this, and some of geripts postings have giving me good feelings but i'm not super sure about either. Posts like this make Farah Mafia. And NM is town. On November 17 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No Moos you are just an someone who refuses to play in any game I've signed up with you in. If you can't be assed to explain your one scum read to the thread when people are trying to evaluate you whats the point.
So frustrating His ass was town in the last game too and did this. Playing against wincon is not cool. On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. See even if Moosy sucks and I decide not to play with him in the future if he's town - this should not get you down either. A depressed town is a failtown. Please do not! We waited so long for this game to start. Okay? I'm at page 28 and would rather watch the Football game then read this. ##UnvoteI may be back later, or on tomorrow.  Great post for mafia to make. Also despite having some interactions with his scum reads, he never re-evaluates his reads. Only thing he does is slightly adjusting his lynch order. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
Also scott has moved up in my lynch list because of that post And he justifies his reason for the MD vote with something someoneelse came up with: Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 23:30 Breshke wrote:
Also as NM said go look at mooseys fake rage in that game i think it is similar to here from memory. It is just like misplaced anger at absolutly nothing that sidetracks the game and gives him an excuse to post but not do anything. I am also not sure where his town reads are at... he had a town lean on eversince very early and put town near the names of ritoky and geript but adds some doubt since these two are good players and could pull this as mafia. So he has like 0 genuine town reads to three ppl he would lynch. Not feeling a town agenda here... ##unvote
##vote Breshke
Then there's his vote on scott.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 04:53 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm like 8 pages behind yolo vote *sigh* well... we need to consolidate and the scott filter is still bad. ##unvote
##vote Scott31337
Interesting how it's pretty clear that scott is going to be lynched at this point, but disformation is reluctant to lynch scott all of a sudden out of all the people he's been wanting to lynch.
3. disformation's slight pushes onto people are all based on thread sentiment. When people were voting my annoying butt, disformation happily joined in at that time. Then geript posted his defense of me and only a few posts later disformation decides that all of a sudden I'm likely to be town:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 02:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.
Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.
##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.
So... Moosy: Agree that his bounce back was rather townish. Scott: I still don't like his filter very much. But my gut doesn't agree with lynching him... and you are right, this thread is awfully quiet. Also in the game we lynched Scott D1 he basically just gave up and rolled over. This time he is at least trying to catch up... The Shining: I think I posted before that I am okay with giving him one Day, but he has to put in a lot of work D2. Hmm... Breshke... tbh he is a bit under the radar for me... filter diving him now.
Then he goes on to support geript's push onto Breshke in this series of posts.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 02:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.
Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.
##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.
So... Moosy: Agree that his bounce back was rather townish. Scott: I still don't like his filter very much. But my gut doesn't agree with lynching him... and you are right, this thread is awfully quiet. Also in the game we lynched Scott D1 he basically just gave up and rolled over. This time he is at least trying to catch up... The Shining: I think I posted before that I am okay with giving him one Day, but he has to put in a lot of work D2. Hmm... Breshke... tbh he is a bit under the radar for me... filter diving him now. On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke... On November 18 2015 03:06 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke... Shit. I really need to get into the habit of drawing conclusions. Was skimming Breshke's filter and didn't get too suspicious. Taking a closer look at stuff like this raises some red flags. Will look more closely, if I find more of this I might find it in me to vote for him. I have played 1-2 games with breshke but I found him to be rather unmemorable, which probably means I didn't have enough interactions with him, which will make it hard for me to compare this to his normal game. On November 18 2015 03:07 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:06 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke... Shit. I really need to get into the habit of drawing conclusions. Was skimming Breshke's filter and didn't get too suspicious. Taking a closer look at stuff like this raises some red flags. Will look more closely, if I find more of this I might find it in me to vote for him. I have played 1-2 games with breshke but I found him to be rather unmemorable, which probably means I didn't have enough interactions with him, which will make it hard for me to compare this to his normal game. To spell it out: Breshke now on the lower end of null, will look at his filter some more. On November 18 2015 03:23 disformation wrote:Hmm... Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 12:14 Breshke wrote:Moosey do you understand that if you are town that your play is just distracting the rest of town and really hurts your chances of people listening to you. It also lets people just cop out and just talk about you being a shithead. For example On November 17 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:On November 17 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 07:33 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?
What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post? I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him". IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc Sorry, I didn't mean your thoughts on VisceraEyes' stance on Fecalfeast, I was looking for your thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast (two separate reads). I don't really understand the whole 7 thing at all. You know that geript is a strong scum player, so why wouldn't he want attention to be paid to his reads? Is geript a player who hides in a corner as mafia? On November 17 2015 07:35 Breshke wrote:On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.
The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.
So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise? On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. Yes, he did. On November 17 2015 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 17 2015 00:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm awake,
Anyway I probably will be mostly afk today so I'll try to be concise about my feelings.
1) I am super sure that Shining is town, based on meta and his posts give me a good feeling about them. They are pointed even if you disagree with what he is doing this is an excellent showing of his day one town play. Just a pity we won't see him again until wensday.
2) NocturneMage recent flurry of postings have giving me a good feeling, it felt like he was interacting with the thread as he was catching up instead of trying to be useless and lurking. He also instead of giving excuses is being proactive and trying to get thoughts out there. Good townlean, or at least not lynching today.
3) I'm not sure how people are so sure of VE so early? I probably don't get it because I never have played with him, but the town case on him seemed good and simplistic. So I suppose I will throw him into my town pile and then re-evaluate later.
4) I am not super confident in my eversince read, but I feel like she is town this game.
I also think ritoky is town, but i'm probably the least confident in this, and some of geripts postings have giving me good feelings but i'm not super sure about either. Posts like this make Farah Mafia. And NM is town. On November 17 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No Moos you are just an someone who refuses to play in any game I've signed up with you in. If you can't be assed to explain your one scum read to the thread when people are trying to evaluate you whats the point.
So frustrating His ass was town in the last game too and did this. Playing against wincon is not cool. On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. See even if Moosy sucks and I decide not to play with him in the future if he's town - this should not get you down either. A depressed town is a failtown. Please do not! We waited so long for this game to start. Okay? I'm at page 28 and would rather watch the Football game then read this. ##UnvoteI may be back later, or on tomorrow. Great post for mafia to make. Also despite having some interactions with his scum reads, he never re-evaluates his reads. Only thing he does is slightly adjusting his lynch order. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
Also scott has moved up in my lynch list because of that post And he justifies his reason for the MD vote with something someoneelse came up with: Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 23:30 Breshke wrote:
Also as NM said go look at mooseys fake rage in that game i think it is similar to here from memory. It is just like misplaced anger at absolutly nothing that sidetracks the game and gives him an excuse to post but not do anything. I am also not sure where his town reads are at... he had a town lean on eversince very early and put town near the names of ritoky and geript but adds some doubt since these two are good players and could pull this as mafia. So he has like 0 genuine town reads to three ppl he would lynch. Not feeling a town agenda here... ##unvote
##vote Breshke On November 18 2015 04:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:27 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. Ritoky this is my reasonin Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote:On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I have rethought my position on breshke.
##Vote Breshke
There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos.
In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?
If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine. It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. FF still being lazy so would lynch.Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage. I also am waiting for VE to be around again. Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke... Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:23 disformation wrote:Hmm... On November 17 2015 12:14 Breshke wrote:Moosey do you understand that if you are town that your play is just distracting the rest of town and really hurts your chances of people listening to you. It also lets people just cop out and just talk about you being a shithead. For example On November 17 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:On November 17 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 07:33 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?
What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post? I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him". IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc Sorry, I didn't mean your thoughts on VisceraEyes' stance on Fecalfeast, I was looking for your thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast (two separate reads). I don't really understand the whole 7 thing at all. You know that geript is a strong scum player, so why wouldn't he want attention to be paid to his reads? Is geript a player who hides in a corner as mafia? On November 17 2015 07:35 Breshke wrote:On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.
The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.
So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise? On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. Yes, he did. On November 17 2015 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 17 2015 00:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm awake,
Anyway I probably will be mostly afk today so I'll try to be concise about my feelings.
1) I am super sure that Shining is town, based on meta and his posts give me a good feeling about them. They are pointed even if you disagree with what he is doing this is an excellent showing of his day one town play. Just a pity we won't see him again until wensday.
2) NocturneMage recent flurry of postings have giving me a good feeling, it felt like he was interacting with the thread as he was catching up instead of trying to be useless and lurking. He also instead of giving excuses is being proactive and trying to get thoughts out there. Good townlean, or at least not lynching today.
3) I'm not sure how people are so sure of VE so early? I probably don't get it because I never have played with him, but the town case on him seemed good and simplistic. So I suppose I will throw him into my town pile and then re-evaluate later.
4) I am not super confident in my eversince read, but I feel like she is town this game.
I also think ritoky is town, but i'm probably the least confident in this, and some of geripts postings have giving me good feelings but i'm not super sure about either. Posts like this make Farah Mafia. And NM is town. On November 17 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No Moos you are just an someone who refuses to play in any game I've signed up with you in. If you can't be assed to explain your one scum read to the thread when people are trying to evaluate you whats the point.
So frustrating His ass was town in the last game too and did this. Playing against wincon is not cool. On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. See even if Moosy sucks and I decide not to play with him in the future if he's town - this should not get you down either. A depressed town is a failtown. Please do not! We waited so long for this game to start. Okay? I'm at page 28 and would rather watch the Football game then read this. ##UnvoteI may be back later, or on tomorrow. Great post for mafia to make. Also despite having some interactions with his scum reads, he never re-evaluates his reads. Only thing he does is slightly adjusting his lynch order. On November 17 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
Also scott has moved up in my lynch list because of that post And he justifies his reason for the MD vote with something someoneelse came up with: On November 17 2015 23:30 Breshke wrote:
Also as NM said go look at mooseys fake rage in that game i think it is similar to here from memory. It is just like misplaced anger at absolutly nothing that sidetracks the game and gives him an excuse to post but not do anything. I am also not sure where his town reads are at... he had a town lean on eversince very early and put town near the names of ritoky and geript but adds some doubt since these two are good players and could pull this as mafia. So he has like 0 genuine town reads to three ppl he would lynch. Not feeling a town agenda here... ##unvote
##vote Breshke Added my stuff on Breshke.
There's the association with Farah where he seems very comfortable to associate himself with her when she's just a "null read".
I can add the part where he's sucking up to geript the whole time he's doing this but I feel this is more NAI. It's just that I have severe trauma from my first ever game of Mafia which places me on the alert whenever I feel the presence of pocketing/sucking up.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 03:47 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:40 geript wrote:
I had time to read filters and compare to notes. Fair enough. I tried keeping notes on important/sketchy/whatever posts in my first two games, but found that these lists take too much time to keep up to date and end up huge so they don't actually help but steal time... Also announcing that you are going to make lists/spreadsheets and not delivering might bite one in the ass. xD Or do you have notes on the metas of different players? That would be interesting. Maybe I just need to figure out some clever formatting for such lists, or make them easier to maintain in some way... kinda ranting now, sry. On November 18 2015 03:48 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:47 geript wrote:
I have a few more minutes before I start work. But shits a bit crazy with 3-3-lots of solo. We need to consolidate on someone. Preferably Breshke but consolidation is key. This will probably end with a wild flailing about and switcheroo game like 30mins - 15mins to the deadline I fear.  Nobody seems to be here. -.- On November 18 2015 03:57 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 03:49 geript wrote:
When I find a meta read on people I like and is accurate I keep it for later. Like Trfel looking bad early on. I just track those useful heuristics for later games. Will try and remember this for when I am able to identify accurate meta reads.
4. coolio, now for the fun part. disformation's weird af reads on me. Ahhh, the beauty of playing like a b**ch D1 in order to get all the reads. disformation makes a very good observation that I switched my read on him out of nowhere.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 01:52 disformation wrote:Still not to sure about that huge change in his read on me... though willingness to reevaluate reads is more town in my book...
Then I do this weird read change:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:Good bye again. disformation and FarahBlackwing are scum. I want them to answer these questions. Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@FarahBlackwing, explain your town read on me pre-lynch.
@disformation, give reads on me, Farah, geript, and Trfel. With explanation.
@mods, I'm happy to see that I voted for myself this game.
But disformation's immediate reaction is to defend himself and not realize that I changed my read on him yet again.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 18 2015 08:57 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:Good bye again. disformation and FarahBlackwing are scum. I want them to answer these questions. On November 18 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@FarahBlackwing, explain your town read on me pre-lynch.
@disformation, give reads on me, Farah, geript, and Trfel. With explanation.
@mods, I'm happy to see that I voted for myself this game. *sigh* Keeping this short since my spirits are kinda low and I am getting tired. MoosyDoosyYou are like 66% town and 100% annoying. Your tone after your tantrum shifted towards a more reasonable one, which I attributed with town. Currently you are looking at EoD stuff and re-evaluation your reads, which is town, too. I think I posted a few thoughts on you during the EoD time or leading up to it. To lazy to look for them right now. Never finished that filter dive though, cause I got distracted by the thread. Btw: Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 07:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 17 2015 20:29 disformation wrote:
The lack ofproper trains like 8 hours b4 deadline also worries me.
shining wasnt here in ages... maybe setting him on blast will change this...
##unvote
##vote The Shining
voting on phone sucks WOAH WOAH SOMEONE GO BACK AND CHECK THIS No idea what is supposed to be wrong/right/whatever here. Could you elaborate? TrfelThought he was town before all the EoD stuff happened. Need to look at it again and re-evaluate. Not sure if I'll be able to get that done before EoN though. FarahNull. Again wasn't able to finish the filter dive cause stuff kept happening. geriptb4 EoD I would have said 90% town with a 10% chance of being a mafia mastermind. To me he looks genuinely pissed that we didn't make the Breshke lynch happen. So would prolly upgrade to 99% town or something. Don't take the exact values for more than they are though.
Instead, he uses emotion in order to try and appeal to me. Psychologically, Mafia is always on the defensive as they naturally feel the need to defend themselves when not necessary.
Overall, I strongly feel that these points show that disformation is Mafia. He is way too self conscious, only sheeps thread sentiment, flipped his vote and refused to take hard stances, and his read on me makes no sense.
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