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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 00:47 GMT
#601
On November 17 2015 09:43 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Also, Fecalfeast, I believe you have zero scum reads right now?

Do you plan on doing something about that in the near future?

VE went from scum to null but sure.

What are you even asking here?

"FF you gonna keep playing?"
You had two scumreads, VisceraEyes and MoosyDoosy. You're no longer scumreading both of them.

I was just wanting your thoughts on that, that's all.

How much past experience do you have with MoosyDoosy?

Anyway, off to my exam.

I hosted the game where he bused the dick off his whole team as mafia. He legitimately seems like a player who much prefers scum play over town play.

That said, I also agree with the idea that giving him a free pass for throwing a tantrum is lame.


Fuck it ##vote mooseydoosey
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 00:47 GMT
#602
Fuck I think too many people are town this game
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 00:50 GMT
#603
On November 17 2015 08:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 08:43 NocturneMage wrote:
Bloody hell will you people please stop using meta? Especially the people or on the people who haven't played more than a couple of games.

And I realise Damdred is her husband but how on earth is that Mafia indicative for her?

The second point of yours is something I questioned but the rest of your points are making my head spin.

1. Weird gambit early on that Farah would never make.
2. Using asshole move to explain "boring thread" and try to push under rug. Not exactly explaining it away.
3. Bad read on Shining using bad meta and using other people's meta as excuse for read to get out of bad situation.
4. Gives too many free town reads based on nothing at all.
5. Mechanical post that claims emotion when there is none. Is tone read.


Alright, Moosy, this is why I don't like this post.

1 Again....bloody meta. "That Farah would never make." No. Please. How is that gambit mafia. Pretend this is her first game. Does that gambit achieve dick all?

2 I did agree she didn't explain her reaction test etc. If she responded I had missed the response.

3 Again, meta. How are you to use meta to judge someone's metaread on someone's meta? I'm pretty sure I'm using correct English here.

4 No, I disagree with this somewhat. The Shining read I didn't agree with and I asked her to flesh out the ritoky read and I did agree with the reasoning for a few of the others.

5 Tone reads aren't entirely reliable, and the quote you posted, I'm not sure it was emotionless, especially if it was the one where she said "can't be assed" like she's mad at you because you aren't playing seriously.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 00:51 GMT
#604
town in no particular order:
ritoky
geript
ve
trfel
farah
NM

exempt:
moosy - reasons
ever - surgery sympathy

not town:
ff
disform
shining
breshke
scott

any questions?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 00:51 GMT
#605
Oh, to add to your post nocturne, he said meta on himself is invalid because he plays on other sites but he is willing to use meta on farah who's on her second game...
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 00:52 GMT
#606
Oh yeah someone said I should look at scott. on it
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 00:52 GMT
#607
On November 17 2015 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh, to add to your post nocturne, he said meta on himself is invalid because he plays on other sites but he is willing to use meta on farah who's on her second game...


Exactly, it's absolute shit that does dick all in figuring out anyone's alignment. I'm honestly this close to just lynching him at at least encouraging the use of investigative roles to sort out others.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 00:56 GMT
#608
scott's filter is unappetizing and stingily portioned. 0 stars out of 5
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 00:57 GMT
#609
On November 17 2015 09:52 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh, to add to your post nocturne, he said meta on himself is invalid because he plays on other sites but he is willing to use meta on farah who's on her second game...


Exactly, it's absolute shit that does dick all in figuring out anyone's alignment. I'm honestly this close to just lynching him at at least encouraging the use of investigative roles to sort out others.


Meta is extremely powerful when it is used by someone with a strong grasp of it and a decent track record. For ex: my reads on alakaslam and damdred. But generally speaking it is wildly misused and over-inflated in importance.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 17 2015 00:59 GMT
#610
On November 17 2015 08:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote

I'm going to completely ignore moose for the rest of this game but I believe that he is really being that much of a female dog about rolling town.
My only worry is that I think he's done this enough times that it might actually be a viable play for him as mafia.

And I simply refuse to lose a game because I fell for this.

I just can't see the town motivation for asking to be lynched and pushing an actual scumread. I can see how that fits mafia motivation, but those two things simply do not fit together for town.

Yes, this is correct. I am meta'ing as Mafia in order to seem townie. Yes.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 01:01 GMT
#611
Hey ritoky you need a back rub or something? Hot chocolate? I have some espresso if that's more your thing.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 17 2015 01:01 GMT
#612
On November 17 2015 09:13 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Breshke, take your original read on me and switch it. It has worked 100% of the time in the past. Yes, this is fact.


Have you played with sicklucker? I think you two would be friends.

Ritoky since VE isn't here and you town read him do you see an explanation for this

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 07:51 Breshke wrote:
ahh Trefel I just know realized that post wasnt referring to his fecal vote because thats meet to say and argued.

VE can you explain this

On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing.



and this

On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!

##Unvote

I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.

The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.

So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by.


Seems to be saying two different things


woah yes, sicklucker is bb. Me and sicklucker make very good town combo and he has been rolling town in games that he has been playing with me.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 17 2015 01:03 GMT
#613
On November 17 2015 09:28 Breshke wrote:
FF look at scotts and tell me what you think.

Farah if moosey acted like this last game as town couldnt you say it would be a good idea for him to act this way as scum this game?

Yes I am scum acting in meta way to appear town. This is true, yes.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 17 2015 01:03 GMT
#614
On November 17 2015 09:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Honestly Farah's filter is pretty nice to look at. I mean, the lynch list is kinda butt because I am leaning town on bresh and am fairly certain that I'm town but being wrong is allowed.

Is there a case on farah or anything that I'm blatantly missing?

Yes, look at my filter.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 01:03 GMT
#615
Moose why do you insist on spilling WIFOM everywhere instead of scumhunting?
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 01:04 GMT
#616
On November 17 2015 10:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hey ritoky you need a back rub or something? Hot chocolate? I have some espresso if that's more your thing.


Weirdly enough I am from Seattle and don't drink coffee. Tea is my thing, drinking a vanilla chai tea atm, back rub sound amazing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 17 2015 01:06 GMT
#617
On November 17 2015 09:45 disformation wrote:
Ah bunch of stuffs. Not to thrilled right now.

MoosyDoosy tried something very similar to this in NSM13 and got modkilled as a result. He was town that game.
As a result I am kinda hesitating to keep my vote on him, on the other hand I am super annoyed and want to policy lynch him for repeatedly pulling these things.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:28 ritoky wrote:
Particularly the suggestion that we should lynch him feels town. It takes a certain level of testicular fortitude to suggest lynching yourself as mafia that early in the game and no offense to disform, but from my experience he isn't that ballsy and forthright.


None taken you are quite right.
Probably going to address a few points Farah and you made, grabbing something to eat first though.

Yes good post. I am Mafia or anti-town anyway so policy lynch is very good idea.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 01:07 GMT
#618
On November 17 2015 08:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Yes I will explain.

Farah is serious player and does not take gambits especially as noob as shown in previous game. This is extremely out of place.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time



When people point it out and call bS on his "boring thread" excuse, he backs out of it immediately by saying he's "gathering reads" while whining at thread.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.



Free town reads based on nothing. \o/
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2015 00:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm awake,

Anyway I probably will be mostly afk today so I'll try to be concise about my feelings.

1) I am super sure that Shining is town, based on meta and his posts give me a good feeling about them. They are pointed even if you disagree with what he is doing this is an excellent showing of his day one town play. Just a pity we won't see him again until wensday.

2) NocturneMage recent flurry of postings have giving me a good feeling, it felt like he was interacting with the thread as he was catching up instead of trying to be useless and lurking. He also instead of giving excuses is being proactive and trying to get thoughts out there. Good townlean, or at least not lynching today.

3) I'm not sure how people are so sure of VE so early? I probably don't get it because I never have played with him, but the town case on him seemed good and simplistic. So I suppose I will throw him into my town pile and then re-evaluate later.

4) I am not super confident in my eversince read, but I feel like she is town this game.

I also think ritoky is town, but i'm probably the least confident in this, and some of geripts postings have giving me good feelings but i'm not super sure about either.



And this post is very mechanical yes and has no emotion. Very much like Damdred yes.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No Moos you are just an someone who refuses to play in any game I've signed up with you in. If you can't be assed to explain your one scum read to the thread when people are trying to evaluate you whats the point.

So frustrating


1. How you take this as anything other than a joke is beyond me.

2. I'm taking her unvote post as frustration that people took her shitposting too seriously and just wanted people to stfu. Doesn't seem mafia motivated.

3. Don't ask about her townreads or anything. She explained her eversince read the moment I asked about it.

4. Irrelevant to her alignment.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 01:08 GMT
#619
On November 17 2015 09:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:52 NocturneMage wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh, to add to your post nocturne, he said meta on himself is invalid because he plays on other sites but he is willing to use meta on farah who's on her second game...


Exactly, it's absolute shit that does dick all in figuring out anyone's alignment. I'm honestly this close to just lynching him at at least encouraging the use of investigative roles to sort out others.


Meta is extremely powerful when it is used by someone with a strong grasp of it and a decent track record. For ex: my reads on alakaslam and damdred. But generally speaking it is wildly misused and over-inflated in importance.


Well I'm mainly referring to the people that are using it on people with less than 2 games of experience or by people here with only a few games experience. Moosy's discussion of it on Farah is particularly bad. The people like you and geript and scott talking about VE earlier is one thing and I was townreading at least you earlier on and I took my time to try and work out VE to my own understanding regardless of Trfel's case (although there's a few things I think he needs to come back and say, give feedback on FF and maybe a few others) but some of the things being described by people are attributes from which I've been advised can be broken. It just doesn't help me at all or maybe I'm just being a newb here. At least Moosy's use of it doesn't help me at all and I also agreed with what others said on Farah's post regarding Moosy.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 17 2015 01:08 GMT
#620
On November 17 2015 10:04 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 10:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hey ritoky you need a back rub or something? Hot chocolate? I have some espresso if that's more your thing.


Weirdly enough I am from Seattle and don't drink coffee. Tea is my thing, drinking a vanilla chai tea atm, back rub sound amazing.

Cool, cool. I can do a chai latte if you're into steamed milk or whatever.

What say you pop me up a notch or two on that list of yours, buddy.
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