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On November 17 2015 02:19 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 02:04 disformation wrote:I am here... kinda. Huge headache...  Still caught up to stuff an will start answering a few things. But before that: townread for NocturneMage. I like his posts so far and he looks really different from NSM13 (where he was maffay). Can you comment on Trfel vs VE? There was one post where I asked you a question about Trfel and you (unlike geript and scott) are not in a position to meta him or VE. You said he had a strange reaction so what jumped out at you? Also what do you make of MoosyDoosy so far? I know at the very least you have played at least one game with him (possibly more?) I was mafia in newbie 13, you both were town.
The strange Trfel thing is in the wall I just posted... should maye have split that in different posts.
Yes, we three were in NSM 13.... Wow! Just noticed that Breshke was in that game, too! xD
MoosyDoosy hasn't done a lot this game so far and is in dire need of explaining his reads. Is he different from what I remember of NSM13? Yes, but I don't think that is necessarily alignment indicative.
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So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF
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On November 17 2015 02:50 disformation wrote:
So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF
Should add at least a bit of reasoning:
All three are in dire need of contributing more and have exhibited a bit of suspicious actions.
(MoosyDoosy buggering off without explaining his reads, Trefel explained a few posts above and FF being lurky as hell, with minimal contributions.)
Other thoughts:
Eversince will probably just get a pass from me for D1 because of the surgeries along with some points for trying to be here and do stuff.
I didn't mind Farah, but want to see more in the near future.
Still a bit waffly (btw: for ppl that don't know me: I am The Waffleboy) on The Shining, but he is a town lean for me atm.
Also waffly about Breshke.
Kinda liked scotts entry, so townlean unless he just vanishes for the rest of the day. I know scott is a low volume poster and I have a bit of a problem with that, since it often leads to me feeling like I don't see a proper read progression.
NocturneMage, geript, ritoky and VE town.
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So next step would be to look at my three suspects again and try to figure out, which one I do like the least and put my vote there. Short break though.
##unvote
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Oh just remembered something:
@MoosyDoosy:
Wasn't your way of playing town to get town reads, buddy/pocket some ppl and then try and find mafia in the remaining ppl? You said so yourself in NSM13. So far you just threw out a bunch of unexplained maffay reads.
Is this one of the parts of your meta that has changed?
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On November 17 2015 04:28 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, why did you townread scott31337? Please explain.
On November 17 2015 05:12 Trfel wrote:
I don't like scott31337's posts so far. His late entrance is very strange, I'm not used to him ignoring a game for so long after it began. He also didn't explain his reads, and followed thread sentiment. I don't see any real contributions from him so far. He doesn't seem to be trying to solve the game.
I'm going ahead and respond to both of that.
Since I remember scott as someone who does not post a lot, I don't think his late entry is alignment indicative.
I kinda liked his entry because he was explained were he was at after catching up to the thread fairly well. Yeah, it was not that original. Maybe I am a bit biased because a lot of his views are very similar to mine...
His sudden disappearance does worry me a bit though.. would like him to interact with a few ppl and/or to push his scum reads.
While we are at that:
##vote MoosyDoosy
@MoosyDoosy : Plx, explain your reads and answer my question.
I also should maybe rethink my stance on VE since I pretty my like Trfel's case. I also do not feel like lynching Trfel atm.
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On November 17 2015 05:44 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 05:32 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 04:28 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, why did you townread scott31337? Please explain. On November 17 2015 05:12 Trfel wrote:
I don't like scott31337's posts so far. His late entrance is very strange, I'm not used to him ignoring a game for so long after it began. He also didn't explain his reads, and followed thread sentiment. I don't see any real contributions from him so far. He doesn't seem to be trying to solve the game. I'm going ahead and respond to both of that. Since I remember scott as someone who does not post a lot, I don't think his late entry is alignment indicative. I kinda liked his entry because he was explained were he was at after catching up to the thread fairly well. Yeah, it was not that original. Maybe I am a bit biased because a lot of his views are very similar to mine... His sudden disappearance does worry me a bit though.. would like him to interact with a few ppl and/or to push his scum reads. While we are at that: ##vote MoosyDoosy@MoosyDoosy : Plx, explain your reads and answer my question. I also should maybe rethink my stance on VE since I pretty my like Trfel's case. I also do not feel like lynching Trfel atm. Scott31337 didn't explain his reads, though. All he really said is that he didn't understand my post, and provided a bunch of weird reads on everyone else. Here's disinformation's first two posts on me (Trfel): Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 08:30 disformation wrote:
Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 02:30 disformation wrote:Not enough to give Trfel a scum read, but I won't give him a town read either.  Twenty minutes later (in which time I did not post), he posts this: Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 02:50 disformation wrote:
So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 03:06 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 02:50 disformation wrote:
So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF Should add at least a bit of reasoning: All three are in dire need of contributing more and have exhibited a bit of suspicious actions. (MoosyDoosy buggering off without explaining his reads, Trefel explained a few posts above and FF being lurky as hell, with minimal contributions.) How did disformation get from "I don't know about Trfel" to "Trfel is a top lynch" without any posts from me or explanation in between? Combined with the random townread of scott31337, I'm suspicious. One more thing to add, disformation's been very active this game post-wise, but hasn't provided many reads. The first time he provided reads was when someone asked him. He seems to be excited to play, chomping at the bit to start the game, but instead of playing he's mostly commenting and questioning, and seems to be somewhat avoiding sharing his own reads.
Meh.
Hm? Well you just happend to be one the three ppl I liked the least. My suspicions on you were posted.
Also don't think my town lean on scott is random, but I should probably rethink scott, if he continues to not post.
I also don't understand the bold part... if commenting and questioning is not playing, then can you please explain how to play?
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On November 17 2015 06:16 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 06:07 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 05:44 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 05:32 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 04:28 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, why did you townread scott31337? Please explain. On November 17 2015 05:12 Trfel wrote:
I don't like scott31337's posts so far. His late entrance is very strange, I'm not used to him ignoring a game for so long after it began. He also didn't explain his reads, and followed thread sentiment. I don't see any real contributions from him so far. He doesn't seem to be trying to solve the game. I'm going ahead and respond to both of that. Since I remember scott as someone who does not post a lot, I don't think his late entry is alignment indicative. I kinda liked his entry because he was explained were he was at after catching up to the thread fairly well. Yeah, it was not that original. Maybe I am a bit biased because a lot of his views are very similar to mine... His sudden disappearance does worry me a bit though.. would like him to interact with a few ppl and/or to push his scum reads. While we are at that: ##vote MoosyDoosy@MoosyDoosy : Plx, explain your reads and answer my question. I also should maybe rethink my stance on VE since I pretty my like Trfel's case. I also do not feel like lynching Trfel atm. Scott31337 didn't explain his reads, though. All he really said is that he didn't understand my post, and provided a bunch of weird reads on everyone else. Here's disinformation's first two posts on me (Trfel): On November 16 2015 08:30 disformation wrote:
Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated. On November 17 2015 02:30 disformation wrote:Not enough to give Trfel a scum read, but I won't give him a town read either. Twenty minutes later (in which time I did not post), he posts this: On November 17 2015 02:50 disformation wrote:
So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF On November 17 2015 03:06 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 02:50 disformation wrote:
So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF Should add at least a bit of reasoning: All three are in dire need of contributing more and have exhibited a bit of suspicious actions. (MoosyDoosy buggering off without explaining his reads, Trefel explained a few posts above and FF being lurky as hell, with minimal contributions.) How did disformation get from "I don't know about Trfel" to "Trfel is a top lynch" without any posts from me or explanation in between? Combined with the random townread of scott31337, I'm suspicious. One more thing to add, disformation's been very active this game post-wise, but hasn't provided many reads. The first time he provided reads was when someone asked him. He seems to be excited to play, chomping at the bit to start the game, but instead of playing he's mostly commenting and questioning, and seems to be somewhat avoiding sharing his own reads. Meh. Hm? Well you just happend to be one the three ppl I liked the least. My suspicions on you were posted. Also don't think my town lean on scott is random, but I should probably rethink scott, if he continues to not post. I also don't understand the bold part... if commenting and questioning is not playing, then can you please explain how to play? Looking closer, I think I see what you're saying in the first part. I misinterpreted your post about the people you don't like. My words were poorly chosen there, playing does include commenting and questioning, I should have said "pushing". Do you have any thoughts on Fecalfeast's latest post(s)? (I forget how many posts he made and I'm too lazy to look)
Yeah, you are right. I could be pushing more. This is one of the aspects to my town game that I need to improve.
FF has like 8 posts. Most of them are like "only skimming / lurking hardcore". He put out a few reads, but hardly explained any of them. His last list is basically without any explanation besides that he likes your case on VE.
On November 17 2015 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
VE you have me on steam lol my buddy hasn't done any of the online stuff yet
I'm mostly skimming here but I side with trfel on VE for sure.
town:
ritoky
trfel
nocturne
mafia:
moose
ve
that's all I got
So yeah I am not impressed by FF so far.^^
Options are "super lazy town" and "scum trying to coast by on minimal work". Though his tone is a bit too up front lazy that I am not sure maffay would do this. But this could be what maffay would want me to think.
@FF:
what happened to:
"farah is town, geript is town, ever is towny..."
Sill valid?
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Wow. Kinda missed That MoosyDoosy is even voting for Farah, with 0 explanation. Oo
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Ah bunch of stuffs. Not to thrilled right now.
MoosyDoosy tried something very similar to this in NSM13 and got modkilled as a result. He was town that game.
As a result I am kinda hesitating to keep my vote on him, on the other hand I am super annoyed and want to policy lynch him for repeatedly pulling these things.
On November 17 2015 09:28 ritoky wrote:
Particularly the suggestion that we should lynch him feels town. It takes a certain level of testicular fortitude to suggest lynching yourself as mafia that early in the game and no offense to disform, but from my experience he isn't that ballsy and forthright.
None taken you are quite right.
Probably going to address a few points Farah and you made, grabbing something to eat first though.
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Meh, for some reason I went from super hype about playing mafia again to super unmotivated.
So the points about my (I guess pretty bad play) that irk the people are:
1. No follow up on The Shining investigation.
2. the "random" scott town lean.
3. The Trefel business.
Lets start with 3 in order to confuse ppl even more.
Should have been more clearer in my wording of the "three ppl that I dislike the most" thing. I was slightly suspicious of Trfel as pointed out in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=22#433
Being slightly suspicious of someone is no mafia read. He still was one of the three ppl I did like the least at that time.
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As stated before I read his entry and thought that it looked okay. Maybe that was more tone than I thought. Probably was to hasty with this read. By now I am super worried that he hasn't put any further work into solving the game.
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Had a feeling this would bite me in the ass somehow when ritoky quoted that. Still couldn't bother to finish it. Well I started some research as indicated in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=18#359
I then realized that looking at his actual filters won't help me read him, since I know him not enough to meta him from that and he only has that one recent mafia game anyway, making the sample size really small. Also have a headache today and couldn't be arsed to read old games filters. :p
So yeah I totally get why you would be confused as to what my alignment is and I feel like I have made some serious mistakes. Sorry, town.
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On November 17 2015 10:19 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 10:17 ritoky wrote:On November 17 2015 10:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
I could kill scott if we're gonna ignore moose again yea the "i understand trfel's case and am considering it" into no unvote of trfel or immediate reaction is kinda a ???? moment. plus i have a lot of TRs Too many TRs. I imagine there's one of the really good players as scum or it's a really obvious/lurky team
Hm, which town reads do you feel strong / not strong about?
scott is not strong since he has 0/5 stars on his filter I guess?
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On November 17 2015 10:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Besides Moosy, at the moment, there are others that I have questions on like VE (like FF can't be his only scumread), geript to a lesser extent (he's not lynchable but I want the whole Trfel thing to check out), disformation, the scott followup on Trfel.
And VE completely dodged Breshke's questions upon re-reading.
I'll be around another one or two hours, so if you have questions, feel free to ask.
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On November 17 2015 10:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 10:26 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 10:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Besides Moosy, at the moment, there are others that I have questions on like VE (like FF can't be his only scumread), geript to a lesser extent (he's not lynchable but I want the whole Trfel thing to check out), disformation, the scott followup on Trfel.
And VE completely dodged Breshke's questions upon re-reading. I'll be around another one or two hours, so if you have questions, feel free to ask. 3 never lynch today people and top 3 lynches today plz. a line or 2 on why, thanks bb
Kay:
Never Lynch Today
Hasn't changed much from my last posts.
1) ritoky: Strong thread presence, prodding ppl looking for answers, I genuinely believe he wants to figure out ppls alignment.
2) NocturneMage: Super more active/interactive compared to NSM13. Not by a bit but by a HUGE margin.
3) geript: Came in the thread pretty strong, prodding ppl for different things, but hasn't been here today. I hope he drops by later though.
Top Lynches:
This is kinda difficult right now. Rethinking a few things...
1) MoosyDoosy: Does he even count? Feels a bit like a policy lynch as stated earlier.
So alternatives to MD...
The Shining hasn't been here in ages...
I am warming up a bit on FF...
Scott hasn't done much after he got that hasty town lean from me...
not sure on VE, conflicted if I like ritokys (and geripts) meta read more than trfl's case... I should probably like the meta read more since it is by two guys on my never lynch today list...
won't lunch ES today...
mh... probably next up is scott and I feel like an idiot now. -.-
2) scott bonus:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=23#441 Not sure what the point of this post was. Buddying up to me?
3) Either still FF or someone else... taking a shower, will think on this, brb
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Bonus note: I have no real clue where trfl's reads are at...
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On November 17 2015 10:58 disformation wrote:
3) Either still FF or someone else... taking a shower, will think on this, brb
Continuing my rant.
Gut/Tone say I don't want to lynch FF.
Reread Farahs filter, feeling not compelled in any direction.
The Shining's filter has a slight town tone, but he has been MIA for super long. So depending on what he brings to the table when he returns I can see myself putting my vote here.
Meh. Not the bestest of lists. Should probably reread some filters tomorrow, but I am not sure how much time I'll have. Will hopefully be back 3-4h b4 deadline. Forecast says there is a decent chance for phone posts.
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Quick short thoughtdump b4 bed time:
On November 17 2015 12:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@disformation, if you had to say, where would you place Farah at?
- Didn't mind the entry.
- Not sold on the meta thing on shining. Since my attempts on research weren't conclusive on that.
- Didn't like her saying she will be mostly afk today, but then she went ahead and posted a bit, so that is not that much concern.
- Did post her town and scum/null reads and explained them, nothing stands out on that front.
- Did like 0 pushing on her scum/null reads though.
- So other than the eversince and the shining reads nothing original I guess.
Conclusion: I am pretty null here. Like nothing stands out a lot for me personally. Maybe the conviction in her The Shining read. Don't want to lynch her though.
On November 17 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
Also scott has moved up in my lynch list because of that post
I also like the part where he says he will watch stuff instead of actually trying to do something today.
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phone post.
profound sadness.
@geript
you have 7 ppl in your not town list, isnt that a bit much? keeping your options open? 
should i keep my post you would have advised me to post as mafia around for when i roll mafia? I mean you and ritoky called me out for it afteur all.
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The lack ofproper trains like 8 hours b4 deadline also worries me.
shining wasnt here in ages... maybe setting him on blast will change this...
##unvote
##vote The Shining
voting on phone sucks
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On November 17 2015 20:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 20:24 disformation wrote:phone post. profound sadness. @geript you have 7 ppl in your not town list, isnt that a bit much? keeping your options open? should i keep my post you would have advised me to post as mafia around for when i roll mafia? I mean you and ritoky called me out for it afteur all. ![[image loading]](http://t05.deviantart.net/D30-nV3sTETSHPCASOTjPchgSkw=/fit-in/150x150/filters:no_upscale():origin()/pre04/db57/th/pre/i/2010/298/5/1/scowl_by_fanatic4life-d31i4cy.png)
not sure what you are trxing to say, but this pictute made me laugh.
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