EPTwe lynch trfel today.
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we lynch trfel today. | ||
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trfel flips town, we lynch onegu and we are in mylo picking between disfo and NM...but in that world NM is a lot more likely than disfo. yeah so it basically feels like trfel + disfo or onegu + NM. i think i solved it, unless my read on shining is actually good, which it is shit. | ||
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onegu + NM trfel + disfo trfel + onegu then we can cover all possibilities by lynching onegu or trfel today. | ||
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On November 22 2015 13:48 Fecalfeast wrote: I mean, maybe it's just trfel and onegu and there's nothing to solve but I need to look at your filter again ricky feel free, but there's no real point. | ||
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On November 17 2015 10:10 NocturneMage wrote: Anyways second look at Breshke indicates his would lynch is FF, Moosy and he's waiting for VE. Eh, nothing unusual, thought his response to my question 6 pages ago was satisfactory. Getting to ritoky's post on disformation.... Only other person I need to take a hard look is Eversince. On November 17 2015 11:12 NocturneMage wrote: Null: Eversince - just couldn't get around to her today. disformation - there are legitimate town and mafia tells but I would use another day to work on him Fecalfeast - he didn't explain the reads early game, but he openly admitted he was lazy. seems intent on lynching scott and putting pressure on Moosy to play the game which is towny though. My gut says town, but I could be wrong. On November 18 2015 23:47 NocturneMage wrote: Just looking at filters I think best cop checks might be VE, Eversince, Fecalfeast. If we have vig shoot Farah. Also Fecalfeast I don't think doc/vet is even possible given the OP. I need to afk for a few hours. ^ bolded for potential suggesting cop check on GF On November 19 2015 09:58 NocturneMage wrote: Farah, I'm going to say this. when you are getting tunnelled or scumread or whatever you want to call it, I was advised you find scum. If you honestly felt there was a valid point to figuring out what Fecalfeast's role was - and he claimed he wasn't vig - you would have moved forward by saying "alright, Fecalfeast isn't vig, he could be scum because of X," or "if fecalfast is town and if some person Y is vig" then I'm down to this method, etc. even in your world you aren't moving town forward also post 1129, Trfel is using the word malicious as in mafia agenda. Not that you were insulting, but your play is mafia play. now I have time to sit down, I will look into eversince, and do the best I can here. at least before 2am. On November 19 2015 10:11 NocturneMage wrote: as glowingbear told me in my newbie 13 game, scum play to survive. even if we go through a cycle, say we fuck up again and mislynch, night phase passes and she's not taken out, if she gets one mislynch out of that, she's gotten her team closer to victory. 2 mislynches left in that scenario. alright now eversince. On November 19 2015 10:31 NocturneMage wrote: also disformation.... from newbie 13, I was caught out as mafia on voting analysis. I am decently sure the way moosy's been playing he is probably town now. If that's the case, when both wagons are town, there's a decent shot to look at people who didn't give a shit about the lynch or who got lynched or for players that can hide it well, who had a "fake" reaction to try and get one player lynched over another or a bad reason given read progression. now farah's been cited for this, but who else would this apply? there were some isolated voters obviously and those people will always come into question but two of these are known town now. and eversince, who knows. On November 19 2015 11:02 NocturneMage wrote: Rest of filter is a bit hyperfocusing on Shining. Just overall meh from that point. I'd give an overall scumlean, but very well could be wrong here. back to work. On November 19 2015 23:19 NocturneMage wrote: I think if I had to lynch anyone and avoid the policy lynch (which it basically what it is) on Eversince, I would go for Breshke. Compared to Trfel, he seems less towny although I couldn't initially grasp from ritoky as for why he'd lynch Trfel over Breshke aside from him wanting to lynch Farah whose claim was scummy when it was made. I could understand Fecalfeast's vote on him for that reason although I mentioned that Breshke, the same thing mostly applies except the claim analysis. geript tried to get Breshke lynched d1 and now that we know geript is town and considering his type of read and my initial reservation on Breshke (talking around geript/VE), and geripts history of 30 games, I'm going to assume the meta read is more or less accurate or at the very least we know it was an honest thought from him. not to mention scum really fall off late game, and Breshke's last post irrespective of timezone was.... ....16 hours ago.... I'm looking at Breshke's posts from 1009 and onwards. He's saying disformation and farah are both scum. But they are both scumreading each other. Learnt the hard way from newbie 14 that there was some double bussing going on. there's no explaiantion from Breshke as to why he thinks they are on after each other and disformation has since been a bit more towny. If Farah's claim was true, and without a counterclaim, we have to proceed as if it is true, it was a poor decision, but at least Damdred has a strategy/conditions for when/if/how the vig should claim. I understand it. and this go? Breshke's pushes are a LOT weaker than round 1. he's not as invested in either of them. I think what trfel said is valid, let the moderators deal with Eversince and lynch Breshke unless there is a mechanical reason we have to deal with her now. (do we know if mods modkill or replace or does that even matter? no idea how that shit works.) is that enough deflection and promised analysis of eversince w/o really delivering anything on it for you? cuz there's more where it came from. very VERY clearly a possible world of 2. | ||
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On November 22 2015 13:59 Fecalfeast wrote: The premise being that if trfel is scum we lynch disfo+onegu and win and if trfel is town we lynch onegu + NM and win? Hmmmmmmmm basically, works for onegu too. if onegu is scum we lynch trfel + NM and win, if he is town we lynch trfel + disfo and win. | ||
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On November 22 2015 14:06 Fecalfeast wrote: That's weird. Really interesting actually, ritoky. You say he could be suggesting a cop check on the GF. I believe scum is told the setup ahead of time, aren't they? yeah, actually; so he would know it was pointless and free cred....interesting, i wonder who else suggested cop checks this game. i know i did once. | ||
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##vote: onegu | ||
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Outside of that I sacrificed too much to save breshke day 1 and his return gift was to quit (we didn't get a sub for him being afk 72 hours tho); which basically ruined a lot of my longevity in the game. And we had established a play where mafia survives day 2 and trfel cc's farah as doctor start of d3 for the win; setting up for that only to have it ruined by a bullshit sub pretty much ruined trfels chances of living long. I really can't comprehend the decisions by the mod this game, and I am never one to blame modding. For anyone that ever hosts a game in the future; if you accept "I don't want to play" as a justifiable reason for substitution then I will flame you in game to the point where you need to modkill me and I won't give a damn while doing it because you fully deserve it. | ||
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On November 24 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Also serious respect to ritoky for mentoring his teammates. Honestly some solid advice given. Would really like to be on a scumteam with you someday, I see you work really well and play really well with anyone you're assigned with win or lose. To those of you in the US btw, safe and happy Thanksgiving travels. Eversince and Onegu, as was said by others, please take care of yourselves and get better soon, and Shining, sorry about your dog. I play nice unless you start calling your teammates names in the QT or intentionally tanking the game, then I don't play nice. | ||
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On October 21 2015 18:06 Tictock wrote: Activity: You must make at least Five posts in this thread per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. Roughly speaking, this equates to a bare minimum of one post per 10 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled or replaced. Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing. This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game. They were clearly in the OP and not followed how the OP stated they would be. Hence why I got very upset in the QT. | ||
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On November 24 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote: I respect that you feel I ruined the game for you, as in many ways my decision to replace Farah was a game changer. I'd like to point out, however, that had I said No and Farah simply stopped posting, or I modkilled her, both would have been just as devastating to town as what actually occurred was to your team. It's pretty shitty that one decision from the host can impact the game as dramatically as this decision did. I take it you would prefer simply not using replacements? I don't agree with what you are saying about Ever's replace. Only rule that was broken in my eyes was not voting, she fulfilled D1 activity requirements and was replaced before the end of D2. There was also a very clear extenuating circumstance in this case, one that I knew about and should have reacted too sooner but that none the less existed. I would prefer you follow the rules set forth in the OP in accordance with how you said you would and precedent on these forums. It doesn't matter that "I don't want to play" is devestating for alignment x or alignment y. It is unacceptable in all cases as grounds for substitution regardless of consequence. If the person consequently stops playing they should be modkilled and not replaced because it is clear they also have now broken the "play to your win condition" rule as well and...well if you don't understand I guess we just have a fundamental disagreement and there basically exists no legitimate situation where you would modkill anyone which is not a good place to be. About ever, the moment ever failed to vote, she also broke the activity rule; which stated direct modkill no sub considered. Either edit your OP or follow your own rules or see it coming after being gone 72 hours and push for the sub with 24 hours left in day 2. If the player hasn't come back in 72 hours they aren't coming back. That was a strange situation though. | ||
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On November 24 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote: Well I was traveling I'm glad we won. A few thoughts Evers slot probably should of been modkilled instead of replaced. Anything past early d2 is to long a time to allow fresh insite into the game. My replacement is not as badly done as some people make it seem. It sucked for scum me coming into a vet slot, however what's the difference between pushing me and pushing Farah? The difference is a mind set thing rather than an actual game play. Besides that people have been subbed put for reasons of not wanting to play and time constraints which Farah had as she had 4 horridshifts the next day Anyway good game town. And scum played well d1 and somewhat d2. I mean no disrespect to your wife, but her sub was an absolute and utter mod error. | ||
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On November 24 2015 07:23 Damdred wrote: I dont agree with that tbh, the game changed only because of the way people view me. For example moosey was super tunneled on my slot then instantly stops because its me. If the scum team had tried could of went after me I had plenty of people suspicious. The game changed because of peoples views and breshke not trying. And my read on you slightly. I just cannot disagree more. Not about the in-game stuff, you're probably right trfel backed out of his play out of fear + breshke quitting was probably worse than just staying the course even if it was going to be harder. But in regards to the sub "i am busy" and "i don't want to play" are unacceptable grounds for substitution. You know this. It should never have been accepted. | ||
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On November 24 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Nah you had me hook line and sinker I wouldn't have voted you there if I was awake rit you were my plan for mylo whether i regretted it or not; since disfo decided randomly half way through the game he not longer wanted to be in my pocket. | ||
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