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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 15 2015 16:32 GMT
#97
/in

Time for round two I believe! I promise to behave myself (some people had hiccups over my last play) and not role play this in this game. I will be really pressed for time though. So I might have to back out of this later. I'll drop out when we get closer to startin' if I don't think I'll have time to play.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 15 2015 17:17 GMT
#100
On October 16 2015 02:03 Half the Sky wrote:
/out

Two-week travel coming up, and unlikely I'll be able to keep up with things, even as a coach.


Aww, I'm sad now, I was hoping to get placed with you again as coach. Your advice last game put the spurs in me to actually spend a good bit of time into iterating my reads. That advice led me to changin' thoughts on at least three people intstantly. I'm going through the analysis post stickyd now though, and I have to blush, I'm really bad at it. I'll try to get better, thanks for the pointers before, and have a safe trip though.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 22:47:14
October 15 2015 22:37 GMT
#105
Entirely. I admitted to as much half way into day 1 in the last game. Then realized, though I like to do it, I didn't gain very much. I got people talking, but every read I had last game was wrong. So yeh, while I talked a bunch, which got other people talking, not much was accomplished by it.

Quick edit: I should add in, I might of got more out of it if I had been more un-emotional. I had strong opinions about certain things talked about and got fussed over discussing them. I got real upset and just over emphasized what I was doin' instead of actually following up with actual thoughts. Which lead to absolutely nothing productive. Then my net died. When I was finally able to connect again the game was over.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 16 2015 18:40 GMT
#133
/confirm
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 20:12:00
October 16 2015 20:10 GMT
#139
On October 17 2015 04:48 Blazinghand wrote:
This starts at the first deadline after everyone has /confirmed. Since we're almost at deadline and not everyone has /confirmed it is most likely starting in 24 hours from this post.


Edit: Never mind, should be fine.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 16 2015 21:04 GMT
#144
On October 17 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I worry that when Eversince rolls Mafia, it'll be a bit too easy to know. I just can't see her replicating her town style. o.O


I've rolled mafia in offsite games twice. I was instantly lynched day 1 in the first game, shot by a town vig the second...
I'll just cross my fingers and really hope to not role it.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 16 2015 21:09 GMT
#146
I said I had played offsite a few times before I think? I might have to go back and check... I remember someone askin' about it early on and I asked them why my previous experience mattered because it was irrelevant to that game.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 19:54 GMT
#406
I caught up at last!

I don't much like Shining at all. especially this

On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


This is a big post that says nothing at all really.
Farah read is the most generic thing I've seen in a while.
Second paragraph is all filler.
The most telling point in it is the Moosy read. He's capable of caring so much that he'll buss his entire team to win. The fact that he's not caring this game doesn't bother me though. Yeh, how does that statement make any sense at all unless you already know what alignment Moosy is?

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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 19:55 GMT
#407
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 19:56 GMT
#408
Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:19 GMT
#413
On October 19 2015 05:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?


Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:21 GMT
#416
On October 19 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 04:56 Eversince wrote:
Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB?


Oh this ought to b fun. Please do explain my 180 on GB since I have no idea what you're talking about.


Prior to that list post you where calling people out for town reading GB implying you didn't have one. What lead you to that town read?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:22 GMT
#417
On October 19 2015 05:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:19 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?


Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.

Is KSC the lynch? He's actually trying to play this game


If postin' filler and picking fights to muck up the thread is playing the game... I guess
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#420
On October 19 2015 05:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok so playing traffic cop between farah and moose is which? (filler/mucking up the thread)


Then getting into a fight with Moosy himself? Some traffic cop...
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:28 GMT
#423
Actually wait, he wasn't even playin' cop he just reiterated Farah's points and that was it.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:35 GMT
#428
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:43 GMT
#432
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
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On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:44 GMT
#433
On October 19 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you point out some actual posts and what you find scummy about them? Specifically how his questioning of moose was scummy rather than towny


You ignored my request for actual scummy posts


I'm not ignoring it. It takes time to post thoughts on two pages of filter. Time, you'll get my thoughts about it soon.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 20:53 GMT
#438
On October 19 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?

Why don't you ask him?


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 21:09 GMT
#448
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?


Yeh, it looks kind of bad.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 18 2015 21:14 GMT
#452
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



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On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

Implied question
On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^


I don't remember asking you a god damn thing


Forced rage for getting a response.

On October 19 2015 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^


I don't remember asking you a god damn thing


There was a question implied in it because you were addressing the statement to me than to everyone else so I responded.

But that's semantics which I enjoy debating anyway. But for the sake of everyone else who dislikes spam, I think I'll just end the conversation here.

-snip-


There was actually no question involved , the impression I got from your posting is you were more concerned with letting people know you think Rels is town than actually hunting scum. which is an incorrect priority.

like bf is weird and probably, scum , yeh scott could be scum. BUT FUCKING RELS IS TOWN HOLY COW.

maybe but idgaf

Rehashed to get mad because Moosy thought an implied question wasn’t a question? What is gained from it?

On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?

Asked question. Moosy answered. Obviously it wasn’t good enough for him but whatever, lets skip that for now.

On October 19 2015 02:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?


null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for.


well just to speed things up for you or jog your memory.
you asked him this. along with a lot of other stuff you typed.

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


And why do you think they're town?

As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far?


In his response he gave a big list of everyone as promised.

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On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:
My reads so far:

Town:

Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions

Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far

Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself

Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long

Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted

Scum

Mooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us

On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.

I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me.


Don't you want to be read as a townie though?

I don't particularly care tbh.


Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies.

Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part


Anyways its bed time


Most of this disagrees with your reads.

So asking for someones opinion on the entire game, having them disagree with you, call you scum.

I think "null someone said something" is a lame response. Unless you just asked the question without caring for the response


Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.

On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

Crap, he says the same thing again instead!

On October 19 2015 02:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.


This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on.

Eversince still has not posted, either.

I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here.


who is he?


Pointless post. Someone in the game. Obviously. Why make this post? You were prodding on scott before this if I remember correctly. Why not follow that here instead of asking about me?(if I am confusing Kelsier for another person here ignore the bit about talkin’ to scott.)

So this next post really has to be a conclusion on if Moosy is scum for not spillin’ the marbles right??!

On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

What?! It’s not?! Instead we just get a rehashing of the same stuff again. Yeh friend, we got it, you don’t like his response!
Surely this next post will be it!

On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

Rehashed like four times and you still don’t “have his story down”? Are you being for real right now?

On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


Random prod that he already knows he’s not going to get more information from.

On October 19 2015 03:06 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions?


nah i got what I needed.



What?! All this and you don’t even give us the juicy part where you develop a read on him?

On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

Oh wait! There’s more, almost like he wants to drag this out for as long as possible for no reason or somethin’!

On October 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.


I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with.
when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing.


What new is said in this post over the last 1600 of them? Same words, but at least he’ll be polite and wait. Even though he’s actually just being passive aggressive.

On October 19 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
just to speed this along

Farah is saying "you shouldn't have strong scum reads based on no interaction

not "you should have no scum reads"

moosy disagrees with you Farah

in general as a new who hasn't played in lots of games with moosy or anyone using meta from past games wont help you well.

Reiterates Farah point. Pointless game advice. We do happen to have coaches this game for giving that.

This is just too much.

[b]##vote: KelsierSC
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#453
vote: KelsierSC
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#454
Damnit all! ##vote: KelsierSC (It's bad when you have to preview a freaking vote post.)
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#457
On October 19 2015 06:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On October 19 2015 06:09 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?


Yeh, it looks kind of bad.

'kind of bad'

come on give it to me! I want something with real emotion! Why am I scum? You started posting right around the same time as I came back to thread, why is my inactivity with NAI excuses worse than your inactivity? Why is my goading you for fun scummy when I missed the fun joke around phase?


Who would you kill if you had a gun right now?


You. Your not worth a lynch. Not playing the game sadly doesn't make you scum. Refusing to give a reason to have the reads you have might but until you actually start playing that might be difficult to figure out.
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October 18 2015 21:22 GMT
#461
On October 19 2015 06:19 KelsierSC wrote:
so every post I made is mafia?


Nah, I actually liked some of them. But I really don't like the fact that almost an entire 2 pages of filter is dedicated to angry early game followed with sayin' the same thing over and over. And we still don't see what you gained from it more than MABY Moosy is mafia.
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#462
On October 19 2015 06:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On October 19 2015 06:19 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 06:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 06:09 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?


Yeh, it looks kind of bad.

'kind of bad'

come on give it to me! I want something with real emotion! Why am I scum? You started posting right around the same time as I came back to thread, why is my inactivity with NAI excuses worse than your inactivity? Why is my goading you for fun scummy when I missed the fun joke around phase?


Who would you kill if you had a gun right now?


You. Your not worth a lynch. Not playing the game sadly doesn't make you scum. Refusing to give a reason to have the reads you have might but until you actually start playing that might be difficult to figure out.

I did it already though


Oh, so you did. Sorry I must have missed it while I was typing. See how hard was that? If you had just posted that in the first place we could of had saved us a lot of time. My problem wasn't that you were absent. It's that you came back to the thread, popped up a terrible 3'rd post and then had an issue that anyone dare call you out for it.
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#616
Ok, so I finally have internet at my house again. I haven't read a thing since I was shoo'd out of the library. So I'm just going to skim this thread from the point I got shoo'd out yesterday real fast.
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October 19 2015 18:58 GMT
#629
Farah, I'm not completely caught up but I am going to point this out anyway since you're around.

I had 3 hours to read 22? pages of the entire game, digest and make deductions, come to a conclusion, and then write up an analysis on why I thought it. All while trying to be active and communicate with people who are around. So your case is bogus and you all really have to realize your lynching me for activity (Which is entirely reasonable).
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#635
On October 20 2015 04:02 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Its the only case in this thread that's any substantial length, but you can post.

Gi read it now or you are throwing the game basically.


You know what, I think I will. Considering the fact I've only had a once over of this entire game, still haven't caught up today, have 1 hour before the end of the day, and therefor will 100% have no really good idea who we should actually lynch, I'm going to just do this instead.
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October 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#647
On October 20 2015 00:52 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello and good morning, I believe that Eversince is the best lynch today and here are the reasons why.

Firstly we look at the entrance post that he makes about TheShining.

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On October 19 2015 04:54 Eversince wrote:
I caught up at last!

I don't much like Shining at all. especially this

On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


This is a big post that says nothing at all really.
Farah read is the most generic thing I've seen in a while.
Second paragraph is all filler.
The most telling point in it is the Moosy read. He's capable of caring so much that he'll buss his entire team to win. The fact that he's not caring this game doesn't bother me though. Yeh, how does that statement make any sense at all unless you already know what alignment Moosy is?



Seems a bit interesting on the surface except shining has been getting a bit of attention from most of the thread. It also lacks some of the context that is going on at that time in the thread. On its own its not a big deal and with follow up it could be good. [green] Yeh, and I noticed it too. Sorry it took me until yesterday to start reading the game. I didn't have internet at my house so I went to the library to avoid getting modkilled for not doing so.

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On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


And then Eversince immediately jumps to putting some shade onto FecalFeast. But then does ask Shining about his 180 on GB.

Shining answers and this is the response

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On October 19 2015 05:21 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:56 Eversince wrote:
Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB?


Oh this ought to b fun. Please do explain my 180 on GB since I have no idea what you're talking about.


Prior to that list post you where calling people out for town reading GB implying you didn't have one. What lead you to that town read?


After this shining answers again but Eversince ignores him and never even goes back to his scum read on him instead choosing to focus on FF and Kelsier. In context and with shinings answer it does seem like Eversince isn't reading the thread as thoroughly as they could be.

His tift with me comes down to how he is reading FecalFeast, when pressed for a better explanation these posts were the response.
I missed Shinings post entirely because I was busy trying to type my butt off because people wanted my explanation on Kelsier. Now I must admit I think I may have just taken the interaction wrong, is it impossible to believe why I'd think that way? I will be more than happy to expand on my thought process, in the night, at the time if I'm still alive.

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On October 19 2015 05:19 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?


Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.


On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?


On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?


On October 19 2015 05:44 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?

On October 19 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you point out some actual posts and what you find scummy about them? Specifically how his questioning of moose was scummy rather than towny


You ignored my request for actual scummy posts


I'm not ignoring it. It takes time to post thoughts on two pages of filter. Time, you'll get my thoughts about it soon.


On October 19 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?

Why don't you ask him?


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.


On October 19 2015 06:19 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 06:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 06:09 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?


Yeh, it looks kind of bad.

'kind of bad'

come on give it to me! I want something with real emotion! Why am I scum? You started posting right around the same time as I came back to thread, why is my inactivity with NAI excuses worse than your inactivity? Why is my goading you for fun scummy when I missed the fun joke around phase?


Who would you kill if you had a gun right now?


You. Your not worth a lynch. Not playing the game sadly doesn't make you scum. Refusing to give a reason to have the reads you have might but until you actually start playing that might be difficult to figure out.


Now in this mess of quotes is the sequence of events. Tries to put scum on FecalFeast for unexplained reads does not seek to understand where the reads come from only try to make him look scummy, when he is confronted/pressured to explain his stance he does to some degree. Still thinks FecalFeast is scummy by the end of interactions but thinks that FecalFeast isn't worth a lynch because he isn't "playing".

Fecal had 3 post at the time. 2 complete filler. 1 naming random people for seemingly no better reason than to say their names. How is that me painting him as scum? It looked terrible. He was obviously in the thread, so calling him out to get him talking so I can expand on it to adjust my reads makes me anti town in what way?

His interactions with Kel are just as strange, loads up the argument he has with moosdoosy and writes a narrative to explain why it is scummy but when hes confronted by Kelsier if all of his posts are scummy he is answered that some of his posts Eversince likes, but votes him anyway.

Re previous statement about Kelsier. I'm not sure anymore but at the time I had very little time to work with, posting my thoughts about who my top mafia reads and trying to explain on how I came to them is strange how?

I think hes scum but heres a condensed version.

TLDR:
1) Only comes into the thread to fling discord and soft push people to see what would take off. You can see this within the posts on Shining, FecalFeast and Kelsier (who he settles on)

Only came into the thread from p8 after a 30 minute walk to the library to play the game. Reads the entire game. Makes deductions and shared them.

2) There is a lack of curiosity and trying to figure out peoples alignments, we see this with how he reacts to FF reads instead of trying to figure out why he has the reads that he does. Instead he latches on and tries to paint him as scummy as can be without even asking why until all the people who are active including FecalFeast tells him to ask Fecal why he had those reads.

Lack of time... I made my decisions, picked my top reads at the time and choose one to run for. It was either this or no vote which seemed real stupid, but in hindsite I'm getting lynched anyway so yeh, sorry town. I played bad. Fecal is explained above.

3) Seems to not be reading the thread at a decent clip, for example his ribbing of shining about the generic read on myself. He was one of the first people to post that reasoning so it can't really be generic. It also seems like he didn't read FecalFeast read post or some of the context in the kelsier posts.

Openly admitted to not reading the thread in my first post.Missed Shining responses, I'll go back later if I'm not toast. Thanks for thinking my thought process wasn't trash though..

4) Forgetting scum reads to move onto another, look at how he handles the shining and it seems like hes coming out of the gates to scum him, but has no real interaction with him to a point. And even though shining is here ignores him after one response when there is valuable information to be gained. Does nothing with the scum lean but settle on other people.

Not forgot, just didn't have time to write two things, whilst talking, and trying to digest everything I had just read.

5) Uneven treatment of Kelsier posting, He weighs the "fight" or questioning of Moosdoosy by Kelsier heavier than the rest of the filter trying to make him look like scum.

I picked 1 out of my top 3 guesses and wrote a case. Lynch me for it I suppose.

I think we have found scum and I invite everyone to vote Eversince with me

##Vote Eversince



I acknowledge I've played like trash this whole game. Sorry town friends, if I live through the day I promise to be more active now that I will actual be able to. If not, it's been a pleasure and see you cowboys later.
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October 19 2015 19:30 GMT
#648
Oh P.S. - My replies are in green obviously.
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October 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#650
##unvote##vote:scott31337
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October 19 2015 19:32 GMT
#652
By the way, I don't even really remember the reason we are lynching scott other than the Rels reasoning but I don't want to die today because I actually did want to play in this game.
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October 19 2015 19:34 GMT
#655
Rels assuming I don't die today. I completely missed who you are calling BF
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October 19 2015 19:37 GMT
#664
On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
these wagons are so boring

Please explain.


its the two people who always get lynched


Hmm? I've played one game, was so obviously town, and the game ended before I could be mislynched.
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October 19 2015 19:44 GMT
#678
On October 20 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
oh wow im def voting eversince now


Why?
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October 19 2015 19:46 GMT
#681
What makes me scum?
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October 19 2015 19:52 GMT
#693
well yeh, I guess Fecal doesn't look great. Just off his filter for stuff that happened since yesterday. I'll actually start playin' this if I don't die in like 5 minutes though.
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October 19 2015 19:53 GMT
#696
On October 20 2015 04:51 FarahBlackwing wrote:
My case is good could sheep me


Or you could wait and see? I did just promise to actually play this game. So you know, if I'm not actually town then you are bound to find out real quick hmm?
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October 19 2015 19:54 GMT
#700
Or just torch me, I don't really mind at this point. I tried my best to contribute yesterday. If I burn for it then whatever, at least I did it. I'm happy with myself for not just sayin' fuck all and letting myself get modkilled (Did think about it).
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Eversince
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October 19 2015 19:59 GMT
#705
I can't have opinions at this point, I haven't got much to go on right now. At this point I'd have to dig through the entire game at least once more, give myself about 2 hours to digest that information, and then go from there. Until that happens, bleh, I can't justify much of nothing right now.
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October 19 2015 20:05 GMT
#715
On October 20 2015 05:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
LoneMeow comes off looking gross from this but I don't know why he voted for scott and not Eversince in this situation unless they're scum buddies or if both scott and Eversince were town.


Why not? If he knows we are both town and can jump between either of us then who does it matter who he can consolidate on?
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October 19 2015 20:06 GMT
#716
Also, I'm so happy to actually be able to actually play this game Moosy, trust me, I'm going to be the most obvious townie that ever lived.
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October 19 2015 20:09 GMT
#720
Oh I'm not. I hated your pointless spam so much yesterday. I would of happily lynched you if I came back today and you were high on the list.
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October 19 2015 20:16 GMT
#726
On October 20 2015 05:11 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 20 2015 05:09 Eversince wrote:
Oh I'm not. I hated your pointless spam so much yesterday. I would of happily lynched you if I came back today and you were high on the list.


right...so you thought moosy and I were having this massive "shitfight" as mafia partners? because your whole argument against me, and to a lesser extent scum read of shining sort of shows you were town reading him.


Kelsier, Yeh, I did. I didn't have a high opinion of Moosy. I didn't have a great opinion on you. And then I see you arguing with him over something he's already refused to tell you? I'm sorry for thinking that either the spammer or the guy engaging him might be mafia.
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October 19 2015 20:18 GMT
#727
Farah, my first read through of anything this game happened around this time YESTERDAY. I then come back and basically have an hour before the lynch with about 7 pages to read. I can either lynch myself or vote for the other chain because, at this point, it's die and have town flip, or trust thread sentiment and lynch the other guy. I intended to play this game, and so I made every effort to try to let myself be able to do just that.
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October 19 2015 20:20 GMT
#729
Like I get it, my case was bad. Even I realize it now. Sorry for putting it together on the fly and at least trying to make the effort to contribute something. Sadly I can understand your reasoning on why you think it was terrible so you're probably town.
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October 19 2015 20:21 GMT
#731
I didn't scumread Moosy, I had him as null. He played very much like this in my previous game with him. He was just mucking up the thread and you were helping him.
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October 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#733
On October 20 2015 05:21 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What's the point of blindly trusting thread instead of pushing any of your own reads that others share.

Or you obviously got up to the point in the thread where I had my case, or you were lurking and saw me push you. So you wasted your time instead of catching up.

so yesh


I literally openly admitting to goin' to do just that right after you told me to go read your case. filters friend...
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October 19 2015 20:23 GMT
#735
On October 20 2015 05:22 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 20 2015 05:21 Eversince wrote:
I didn't scumread Moosy, I had him as null. He played very much like this in my previous game with him. He was just mucking up the thread and you were helping him.


if you didn't scumread him why did you post that you would have lynched him?


Because the way he was playing was wasting my very little amount of time and infuriating. Why not put a end to it?
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October 19 2015 20:24 GMT
#736
No I said I didn't have a great opinion on you. Sorry for disliking something I guess?
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October 19 2015 20:27 GMT
#738
Oops, I mis-read your post then. Previous chain of thought I just told you.
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October 19 2015 20:29 GMT
#739
If you wanna' know anything else feel free to ask. Or if I confused you in some way I'll try to elaborate. I didn't catch that mafia association from your post at all lol. I'm glad you pointed it out
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October 19 2015 20:31 GMT
#741
On October 20 2015 05:11 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 20 2015 05:09 Eversince wrote:
Oh I'm not. I hated your pointless spam so much yesterday. I would of happily lynched you if I came back today and you were high on the list.


right...so you thought moosy and I were having this massive "shitfight" as mafia partners? because your whole argument against me, and to a lesser extent scum read of shining sort of shows you were town reading him.


I bolded what I missed. My case was that your first entire 2 pages of filter was angry early game and then getting into it with Moosy. Nothin' to do whatsoever with you being mafia together.
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October 19 2015 20:32 GMT
#742
Or at least that's the way I interpreted that at the time. I think I may be over emphasizing it now I think, but I hadn't had enough time to let it stew, didn't like the way it looked, and said as much...
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October 19 2015 20:35 GMT
#743
Just to be clear, I still don't like it. It accomplished nothing at the time. But, unless I'm mistaken (highly possible right now), Moosy never actually did answer you. So I can understand why you did it. I just don't understand why you did it so soon, or as pervasive as you did. But that doesn't make you mafia on it's own and I'm not convinced you are based on the rest of your play since then either. So I'm happy you didn't get lynched today.
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October 19 2015 20:44 GMT
#748
On October 20 2015 05:36 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 20 2015 05:29 Eversince wrote:
If you wanna' know anything else feel free to ask. Or if I confused you in some way I'll try to elaborate. I didn't catch that mafia association from your post at all lol. I'm glad you pointed it out


I guess I would like some kind of concise and clear train of thought that makes this happen.

So you don't really play the game to start with then you say you managed to catch up with the whole thread. After that you say shining is scum for his opening post and ff is scum for giving his list of reads. Then you decide that I was the biggest scum of the game but rather than actually having a reason you then go and dig back through my filter trying to find things to call me scummy for, you take almost each post I do and call me mafia, which you now admit were all bad reasons. After I dispute all those reasons you just disappear. But this was all an attempt to make it seem like you were contributing?

You don't say anything about moosy even though he was the biggest spammer who you didnt't like.

You then return around deadline time to shove a vote on scott.

Perhaps you can see why i'm "confused" and i'd probably ask why I shouldn't lynch you.




Ok. I'm just going to clear this up one last time. I'm not going to repeat it because it's just filler but people can't seem to realize that I've already said it. I have not had internet at my house since the game started on Saturday. I did not get home on Saturday until about 23:00 that day. I had no way of playing that night. The cable company my complex uses does not have customer service on Sunday's, resulting in my inability to address this yesterday.

I went to the library, read the game, and posted. Sorry the library isn't open long on Sunday's either but I at least tried.
If my train of thought wasn't coherent it likely wasn't. I am not a fast reader. I am also not a fast typer. This results in bad play because I am trying to do both quickly and thus I miss things.
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October 19 2015 20:48 GMT
#750
Also I pointed out one really odd post he made when he generally hadn't done squat else. How does that make me mafia?
"This thing looks strange to me" -presumes people will chat about it until I can be around again-
"Burn her!"
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October 19 2015 21:21 GMT
#755
What change in story?
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October 19 2015 21:35 GMT
#757
On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?

Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?


Because you talk a lot. It was half way through the day, I hadn't had time to actually think about anything I'd read. I believe you're entirely capable of doin' nothing but spam. I haven't played with anyone here enough to use meta so I generally toss it. Resulting in your entire filter being highly annoying, but having at least one game to assume, I figured I would wait and see how you play the rest of the game. But as I have no idea of half the players right now I would have totally lynched you if you had been a main train to save my own butt.

I'm re-reading, I will post thoughts later if people are around or tonight if I fall asleep. I'm really tired and only stayed up to read in the first place because I lived.
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October 20 2015 10:54 GMT
#771
On October 19 2015 06:33 KelsierSC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 19 2015 06:14 Eversince wrote:
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On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

Implied question
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On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^


I don't remember asking you a god damn thing


Forced rage for getting a response.

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On October 19 2015 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^


I don't remember asking you a god damn thing


There was a question implied in it because you were addressing the statement to me than to everyone else so I responded.

But that's semantics which I enjoy debating anyway. But for the sake of everyone else who dislikes spam, I think I'll just end the conversation here.

-snip-


There was actually no question involved , the impression I got from your posting is you were more concerned with letting people know you think Rels is town than actually hunting scum. which is an incorrect priority.

like bf is weird and probably, scum , yeh scott could be scum. BUT FUCKING RELS IS TOWN HOLY COW.

maybe but idgaf

Rehashed to get mad because Moosy thought an implied question wasn’t a question? What is gained from it?

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On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?

Asked question. Moosy answered. Obviously it wasn’t good enough for him but whatever, lets skip that for now.

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On October 19 2015 02:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?


null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for.


well just to speed things up for you or jog your memory.
you asked him this. along with a lot of other stuff you typed.

On October 18 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


And why do you think they're town?

As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far?


In his response he gave a big list of everyone as promised.

On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:
My reads so far:

Town:

Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions

Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far

Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself

Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long

Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted

Scum

Mooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us

On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.

I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me.


Don't you want to be read as a townie though?

I don't particularly care tbh.


Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies.

Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part


Anyways its bed time


Most of this disagrees with your reads.

So asking for someones opinion on the entire game, having them disagree with you, call you scum.

I think "null someone said something" is a lame response. Unless you just asked the question without caring for the response


Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.

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On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

Crap, he says the same thing again instead!

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On October 19 2015 02:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.


This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on.

Eversince still has not posted, either.

I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here.


who is he?


Pointless post. Someone in the game. Obviously. Why make this post? You were prodding on scott before this if I remember correctly. Why not follow that here instead of asking about me?(if I am confusing Kelsier for another person here ignore the bit about talkin’ to scott.)

So this next post really has to be a conclusion on if Moosy is scum for not spillin’ the marbles right??!

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On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

What?! It’s not?! Instead we just get a rehashing of the same stuff again. Yeh friend, we got it, you don’t like his response!
Surely this next post will be it!

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On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

Rehashed like four times and you still don’t “have his story down”? Are you being for real right now?

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On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


Random prod that he already knows he’s not going to get more information from.

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On October 19 2015 03:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??


i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions.

i don't see where you townread him?

On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.

To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.

The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions?


nah i got what I needed.



What?! All this and you don’t even give us the juicy part where you develop a read on him?

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On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

Oh wait! There’s more, almost like he wants to drag this out for as long as possible for no reason or somethin’!

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On October 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?


This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.


well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it.
I shouldn't have to command you to do it.

So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.


I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with.
when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing.


What new is said in this post over the last 1600 of them? Same words, but at least he’ll be polite and wait. Even though he’s actually just being passive aggressive.

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On October 19 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
just to speed this along

Farah is saying "you shouldn't have strong scum reads based on no interaction

not "you should have no scum reads"

moosy disagrees with you Farah

in general as a new who hasn't played in lots of games with moosy or anyone using meta from past games wont help you well.

Reiterates Farah point. Pointless game advice. We do happen to have coaches this game for giving that.

This is just too much.

##vote: KelsierSC


I don't really know you that well and you have never seen me play town so let me just explain what is happening as you seem to be having a lot of trouble with a coherent thought.

I was asking moosy questions because I felt his response was inadequate and I was pushing him for it. His play didn't make sense to me and I wanted him to answer for it. I believe you said this

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Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.


The post you are referencing there is actually the first time I brought this issue up so I don't really see how this says "everything i've already said again".
Entirely true. I misremembered stuff while I was reading vs tpying.
I wanted moosy to give more. I am still waiting on him to give more. I would counter and ask how questioning moosy and forcing him to give more on vonthin is in anyway different to you forcing FF to give more on his reads.
Yeh, but compare the methods here. You two ate up pages of the thread over something that wasn't going to happen. My prod of Fecal was entirely justified in comparison as he had 4 (Been confusing this for three. Correcting myself since I've gone through the thread again.) post since the game started. 3 complete filler post, and one post where he randomly list off names with no premise. I understand I think I misjudged, over emphasized and took your two conversations in a really bad light, but my exchange with Fecal (who's literally posted nothin' at this point) and Moosy (who I assume to have a big post count (granted most of his at this point is pointless)) isn't comparable. Moosy either will eventually respond or you can make conclusions for why he's not.
moving on, I believe you also made points about "forced rage" or something like that, the "i don't remember asking you a god damn thing" is a movie quote. the capitalisation in the other post is a paraphrase of moosy's post. In either case you haven't explained how this rage is forced or even if it really exists. but i suppose it's a nice buzzword to throw in.
You seemed upset for the purpose of continueing an agenda. I think its more that you were frustrated at not getting an answer. I may of been guilty of doing exactly the same thing honestly if Fecal had not updated about his reads. I probably would have hard tunneled him then and there.
I believe next you called me mafia for traffic copping but not traffic copping. Simply put farah and moosy were not understanding points and I clairified it to move things along, I then explained to Farah why using meta on someone you have never played with is a bad idea. ok maybe he has a coach who gave him this advice, maybe not. I feel it needed to be said. is my advice bad? why does this make me mafia?
At best, asumming I'm right in guessin' that I was entirely wrong, you stopped Farah/Moosy from mucking up the thread. That's good. I can get that now. Following up by mucking up the thread with You/Moosy just didn't seem right to me. Giving Farah advice is NAI I guess
so to sum up. your push on me comes down to you thinking I "faked rage", that I pushed on moosy too much, and I clarified a situation and gave some advice to a newbie. Apparently this is

"JUST TOO MUCH" and so you feel you have to vote me.

Interesting.



We already talked about some of this stuff earlier but I want my train of thought to be transparent.

On October 19 2015 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:
just to dot the i's , I believe you also found me scummy for asking scott a question. I am asking him to clarify who he is talking about. I would be happy to know why this makes me scummy.


I think we missed understood eachother. I liked your posting about scott. I found it strange that when he posted this + Show Spoiler +
[B]On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:
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On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.



On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.


I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.


This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on.

Eversince still has not posted, either.

I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here.

You only asked him about his point out about me. I'm just a random lurker who hasn't even read the thread at this point. I totally still don't understand the point of askin' him about me.

Anyway, I woke up early to type this. I have to go to work.
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October 20 2015 10:58 GMT
#772
Finish typing it at least. I started writing it last night because I promised to respond to you.
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October 20 2015 19:11 GMT
#789
I find it vastly irritating that I took out so much time into replying to everything people where grabbing pitchforks over, and Kelsier and a very short chirp by Moosy are to respond to any of it.

Instead of addressing any part of it that wasn't clear enough, I should just be shot huh?
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October 20 2015 19:13 GMT
#790
On October 20 2015 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 20 2015 23:19 boxerfred wrote:
GB: "Rels's post is forced"
Rels: "GB's post is forced"

Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions:

- how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that.
- what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum?

Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game.


Sicklucker scumreading lone meow and wasting his vote on him without trying to convince people to vote with him was scummy. He coming back to the thread and voting scott instead of Eversince may imply he was saving his scum partner by hammering town scott. Or he simply saw me criticising him for wasting his vote and voted one of the main wagons to look good.

My point on sicklucker is: if he really thought lone meow was mafia to the point of keeping his vote on him until the very end, he should've be trying to convince people to vote lone meow. If his scum read on lone meow wasn't that strong, he should've used his time to evaluate the main wagons instead of not caring for the lynch the major part of the day.


I think it looks strange that Sicklucker would do that aswell. Maby I'm jumping connections here best he's wasting his vote. At worse he's letting a mafia Lone Moew consolidate onto scott to make me look worse knowing that I'm town too and another potential mislynch?

I'm not sure where you guys are getting Rels mafia from his RNG thing. I think it's a better that he was suprised and angry that the flip ended up being town. Townie at best. Null at worse.
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October 20 2015 19:52 GMT
#791
On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.

Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.

I addressed a lot of this and haven't seen you trying to talk to me. Like the entire reason I sheeped Rels I directly admitted to at the time. I think even Kelsier posted it in responce to someone.
+ Show Spoiler +

Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.

How was it bad? flesh that out for me. Why would a mafia Eversince come back at the end of the day. Draw a horde of bad attention to herself, all the mistakes, and putting a bunch of time at the end of the day to at least respond on why and how I did the things I did before getting potentially (Looked like ver likely at that time.). Why put the effort? I'm thinking a mafia Eversince would of been really hoping that her team somehow saved her butt while being really quiet.
Also how was the conversation between me and Kelsier later bad?

+ Show Spoiler +

Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.

On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?

Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?

I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.


Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker


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It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.

if we assume I'm town this makes Lone Moew look terrible and possibly Sicklucker.
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The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.

this is so wishy washy and him opening for shenanigans I think is null. Because a mafia Lone Moew/Sicklucker/x could have swung the vote on either lynch and still hit town
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.

Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.

Why fight over the lynch if there is no risk in just sitting back and doing nothing?

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October 20 2015 19:57 GMT
#797
That has to be the laziest way to say you tried to persuade people. You had most of the day to make a case to try to seriously push on Lone Moew and then try to consolidate around the time of the lynch.
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October 20 2015 19:59 GMT
#803
Just speculation at this point. I missed the last of the end game and my track record through the lagu hwas well... non exsistant.
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October 20 2015 20:02 GMT
#808
Oh wow what... Kelsier I expected but Lone Moew was town after that play? Now I'm just really confused.
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October 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#813
On October 21 2015 05:03 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Lm wasn't a bad shot at all good ml target taken off the board.

This.
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October 20 2015 20:06 GMT
#817
I'm still failing to see how Rels is mafia here. His case D1 was unfortunant but it wasn't bad. Nor were the motivations leading it. Someone explain it to me.
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October 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#819
We also know that the setup is between C & D with a vig shot. I'm terrible at setup speculation so I'll leave that to someone else to think on.
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October 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#826
I mean, I was literally speculating if you could possibly fit into a mafia team not 5 minutes ago.
But you guys will need a lot more than just meta to make me think he's not town right now.
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October 20 2015 20:20 GMT
#855
On October 21 2015 05:10 boxerfred wrote:
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On October 21 2015 04:52 Eversince wrote:
On October 20 2015 20:37 boxerfred wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

People pointed that post out already but I think the really interesting thing here is that this is the vote that hammered scott. sicklucker said he'd be up for shennanies and he was around at EoD - so it wasn't just dumping the vote on scott but it was the vote that did not get Eversince hanged.

Thing is that he pushes Kelsier, backs off, does nothing, sheeps the biggest wagon. I understand that the unvote of Kelsier makes sense, town should re-evaluate. But the lack of participation and the "I do nothing" sheep of Rels is bullshit. I mean the guy isn't active for most of the day then comes in only to say this and back out again? I don't get it. Tbh that's bad scum play as well as bad town play. I expect more D2.

I addressed a lot of this and haven't seen you trying to talk to me. Like the entire reason I sheeped Rels I directly admitted to at the time. I think even Kelsier posted it in responce to someone.
+ Show Spoiler +

Eversince looks bad but I think it's a "bad town" category of bad and not a scum thing. That brings me to Farah who I insta-townread for the case on Eversince, I think it's decent, well-written and logical. Such a case isn't made by a newbie D1 on a scum partner. So it's either town!Eversince and town!Farah or town!Eversince and scum!Farah or scum!Eversince and town!Farah. We should keep that in mind, if one of them flips scum, the other one is pretty much confirmed town.
The conversation on p37 between Kelsier and Eversince is also quite interesting. Makes Eversince looks bad, again. The only thing ES has going for him is the effort he puts in, I don't think scum needs to do this after the flip happened.

How was it bad? flesh that out for me. Why would a mafia Eversince come back at the end of the day. Draw a horde of bad attention to herself, all the mistakes, and putting a bunch of time at the end of the day to at least respond on why and how I did the things I did before getting potentially (Looked like ver likely at that time.). Why put the effort? I'm thinking a mafia Eversince would of been really hoping that her team somehow saved her butt while being really quiet.
Also how was the conversation between me and Kelsier later bad?

+ Show Spoiler +

Also I want to put more pressure on Moosy but he didn't spam up the thread anymore and caught decent things such as this.
On October 20 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.

On October 20 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?

Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?

I'll refrain from my scum read for now. I actually think Moosy is doing a better job by now.


Here are my reads mirrored in the final vote count:

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast/Eversince/Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337 , Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker


+ Show Spoiler +

It is very well possible that scum hides between MD/FF/LM, no matter if both wagons are town or the Eversince wagon was targeted at scum. Since I said above that I refrain from my MD scumread, in this scenario most likely scum should be hidden between FF/LM/ES, pushing the mislynch that town people started.

if we assume I'm town this makes Lone Moew look terrible and possibly Sicklucker.
+ Show Spoiler +

The one guy voting outside of both wagons (to simply stay unreadable?) would be sicklucker. Wouldn't be bad scum play I think since basically voting outside the wagons is NAI (at least as long as we do not know both flips) - I don't have a strong scumread on him but I don't have a townread as well so yeah. I don't want to let go of the theory of sicklucker being scum and voting outside but the fact that he asked for shennanies says to me that he should be leaned town.

this is so wishy washy and him opening for shenanigans I think is null. Because a mafia Lone Moew/Sicklucker/x could have swung the vote on either lynch and still hit town
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a gut feeling on Shining that I need to feed with arguments. Maybe I'll change my thoughts towards him but as of now, I got a scumlean on him. Same goes for FecalFeast, my reads on those two aren't fed with strong facts but are more a gut (and low activity/filler posts) thingy.

Concluding, I think it's very likely that we have two scum members on the scott wagon. The wagon went off decently and was not fought too hard, although the lynch was kind of close.

Why fight over the lynch if there is no risk in just sitting back and doing nothing?


I don't even get half of what you're saying because it's really annoying to read through a quoted post with strangely placed spoilers. Point out what you want me to answer and I'll answer.


Just open all the spoilers and you have your original post and my issues with why you think them in order.
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October 20 2015 20:42 GMT
#880
On October 21 2015 05:13 Rels wrote:
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On October 21 2015 05:12 sicklucker wrote:
rels your so... boring and dumb and its so obvious im town trying to take the nk away from real power roles gj

Vig used his shot. He is not a power role anymore. He is just a named VT.
There is no need to protect a names VT.
Die.


This is really bothering me. Like I get that he can do it as either alignment. But there really isn't any reason to do it as town.
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October 20 2015 20:45 GMT
#883
And Boxer, you still haven't replied to anything I've posted. Why are of you and Farah so tunneled on me?
You haven't even said why you're so tunneled on me anymore. What have I done past the D1 lynch, makes me so glaringly mafia? It's starting to make me think you might have motives behind it or somethin'.
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October 20 2015 20:47 GMT
#885
No you did. Alls anyone has to do is open a few spoilers that keep things neat. You're entire post remains in order. You expect me to re-write the entire thing for your convenience of not pressing your mouse button like 5 times?
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October 20 2015 20:58 GMT
#887
I don't really understand why you would fake claim as town though. It drawing a bullet matters how? Real vig is VT and the only thing you gain is to make yourself go one more night. Like if he's town like he claims he is, wouldn't that be the easiest mislynch in history if mafia didn't shoot him tonight?
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October 20 2015 20:58 GMT
#888
Or no you don't even get one more night. Mafia takes your bait or your 100% mislynched the next day.
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October 20 2015 21:57 GMT
#905
On October 21 2015 06:46 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Tired of sending stuff in to early.

The easiest answer is von is the disinterested scum at this juncture with how he came in voted left little on the table and seems to not care. But this could come just as easily from town it seems (lonemeow) as it could from scum. So I would probably suggest not lynching von today and looking elsewhere. However if von is scum it's highly probable that eversince is town.

The second easiest thing (and what I think we should do) is lynch moos. He didn't really care who got lynched yesterday as evidenced by not really pushing his preference of boxer past a point and then saying well I'll just sheep onto Scott who his top scum read was in. This is highly suspicious and his other play during the game seems scum indicative and his pushing off of ever will shed light on her alignment if he flips scum.

I've said plenty about ever before now so just read my case. But there is a direct possibility that it was a town v town wagon and scum just didn't care where votes went.

I'm not sure about fecal or boxer I have t read more.

But that's where I am atm


I'll add on to your Moosy read by saying he never really did answer Kelsier either. He just kind of did exactly what I was saying, and I had a hunch about that bein' mafia lead by one party or the other. Moosy never followed up and I pointed this out in my follow-up chat with Kelsier about this being what I meant by him pushing it. The outcome was exactly and mafia Moosy would want. Past turning half the town against me ontop would just have been the sugar on the case.

He hasn't actively read the thread since then either. He's replaced the spam with one liners and abandoning the follow up which is precisely what he did on D1. In particular everyone should read the weak prod along with Kelsier at me during the night, prod's Boxer with no follow up.

Fecal has yet to explain any reads past the one's I got out of him on D1. He's just lurking, posting a few names here and there, and random one liners which is real curious.
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October 20 2015 21:59 GMT
#906
I could be interested into a Vonthin list though. Same reasoning though as not putting him as my top lynch today would be pretty much what you said though.
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October 20 2015 22:00 GMT
#907
Actually he didn't even prod Boxer. He seemingly drops his mafia read on him and then can't be bothered to read what Boxer posted.
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October 21 2015 14:12 GMT
#930
My problem with the giant Fecal post is that it's giant. He reiterates a lot of post from conversations I'm sure he was around for at least a few of them. Why wait to post anything about it until day 2? Why not just share your thoughts and feelings at the time it's happening so the rest of us can see how your reads are developing. I'm not sure there is a town motivation for waiting to post it this way. I can certainly see a mafia one though.
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October 21 2015 18:49 GMT
#977
Glowing when I couldn't wrap my head around the Sick claim yesterday I was giving mafia vibes to you.
Rels reiterates basically what I was pondering to the note why not pick at him?
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October 21 2015 18:58 GMT
#980
On October 22 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 22 2015 03:49 Eversince wrote:
Glowing when I couldn't wrap my head around the Sick claim yesterday I was giving mafia vibes to you.
Rels reiterates basically what I was pondering to the note why not pick at him?


It's not about WHAT you said, it is about the initial disinterest you had on the claim.

I mean, there was a claim AND a counter claim but instead of dropping any discussion you were having to give thoughts about it, you kept pushing Boxerfred. I would expect a townie to immediately react to the claims. Unless you know both their alignmebts, so it is disinteresting


I didn't know what the claim vs the counter claim meant. So I tried to think about what it could mean, then brought what my thoughts to the thread. I put a confirmed town on Sick when he claimed, changed it to a confirmed mafia read when Rels countered and Sick admitted to not being the vig. Then everyone said the claim is NAI so I tried to think on why you would do it as town and couldn't figure it.
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October 21 2015 18:59 GMT
#982
You found that mafia telling but Rels just posted where I ended up last night in his post and it's ok?
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October 21 2015 19:02 GMT
#985
Ok. That makes sense enough. I was curious as to what you found different between the two since they basically ended up at the same place.
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October 21 2015 19:03 GMT
#986
Moosy's continueing complete dis-interest is making me feel more and more sure about him bein' a good lynch ontop of what I came to yesterday.
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October 21 2015 20:38 GMT
#991
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 19 2015 01:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Again, boxerfred is really weird.

In his opening post he crammed a VT claim, a complaint, and a scum read.

In his next post, he tries to place blame on me for posting gif's when I didn't. He even tries to scum read me for it which is lol-worthy.

Just scum reading me here is also super surface level because he's not looking into how I operate and more about my outwards appearance.

His attempt to say he knows my meta is terrible because he was only in the game where I was Mafia and he's not making any effort to check my others game where I literally do the same thing as I did in that game.

I mean...What is there to like?

- Awkward first opening
- Says I started gif wars when I didn't even participate
- Scum reads me for gif's which I didn't even post
- Applies appearance reads
- Makes no attempt to support his supposed “meta” read

##unvote
##vote boxerfred


On October 20 2015 02:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 02:23 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:18 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary.

What do you think of "newbie scum maybe wouldn't have 3 scumread in his first serious post" ? Is this a bad reasonning ?

??

I mean, the game is to find 3 scum so why wouldn't he if he's either town or mafia emulating town?

Cause I remarked as scum he's super difficult to scumread town 'cause you're afraid they will scumread you back. So I was thinking maybe he's not scum because he did that. But now I'm thinking maybe that ain't a strong reasonning.

I guess? As I said, there's not enough to go on Vonthin right now.

I'm willing to not lynch boxerfred so long as he tries not to scumread me for made-up or ridiculous reasons in the future.


On October 20 2015 04:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:37 boxerfred wrote:
im here, gonna catch up. exhausted as fuck since I moved in today. I said that pregame, just to clear it up guys. anything urgent happening?

There are 2 major wagons. What are your thoughts on them?


On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince, Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfred
KelsierSC (0): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, Eversince
Vonthin (0): Fecalfeast
sicklucker (0): GlowingBear
boxerfred (0): MoosyDoosy
GlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosy

Not voted (0):

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

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On October 20 2015 21:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I like the bf tunnel. I'd like to volunteer for D2 lynch willingly.


On October 20 2015 22:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 21:53 boxerfred wrote:
Did you read what I wrote?

not really tbh. I assumed it had to do with killing me.


On October 22 2015 05:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 22 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 22 2015 03:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol.


No it's cute that you keep scumreading him even after you voted WITH him last day

scum reading boxer? where? I now have a town read on him.



Progression is you obviously are mafia reading him before lynch. Change votes but still are questioning him. Vote with him anyway, even as a mafia read. Can't be bothered to even read the thread. Then give him a town read. Right then.

Combine that on top of this:
Spamming a bunch, gets into a big fight with Kelsier over not fleshing out why he has a read that he had.
Didn't seem to care about the lynch.
Never ends up answering Kelsier.
Changes out spamming for one liners and never does follow up.
Drops his main scum read and can't even be bothered to properly read the thread. Ignoring is previous mafia post is just curious.
His vote on me is is a meta read.
Continuing to do nothing so far.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy
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October 21 2015 20:44 GMT
#993
Me not having a huge filter and rock solid reads, when I come back to a N1 phase (Basically nobody posted), and only being half way into D2. Sorry I haven't solved the game yet I suppose?
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October 21 2015 20:53 GMT
#994
Fecal is still a high lynch candidate for me too.

Has been unproductive the whole game.
Wouldn't explain his reads. And since the one time he has done so it's because I bothered him enough for them. Notice how he has yet to repeat this feat since, aside from one huge wall post.
Problem with that wall post in and of itself; it reiterates a bunch. It doesn't make sense to hold this information back at the time. It lacks natural read progression, and makes it easier to muddy the waters behind real intent behind the reads that he has.
The rest of his post are random one liners, throws out a few names here and there, and nothing else but lurk the rest of this entire game.

The irony that he is finally getting any attention for the exact reason I called him out and got so much heat for in the first place is palpable.
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October 21 2015 21:06 GMT
#997
This is my second game on this site. I tend to just toss meta out the window.
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October 21 2015 21:17 GMT
#1000
Ok I skimmed it just for laughs.

His entire play seems different to me. Our previous game he was poking around and chattin' with people about his reads. Being generally lighthearted but still trying to engage the thread. He has more content in two pages of his filter that game than here.

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October 21 2015 21:18 GMT
#1001
So why the 180 this game?
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October 21 2015 21:20 GMT
#1004
And yeh, my Kelsier vote was terrible. But I've already explained this, so I'll leave people to their conclusions on it.
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October 21 2015 21:32 GMT
#1007
I'm really confused about Sick right now. He claimed vig, confirmed town. you countered, he admitted he was not vig. confirmed mafia read. Everyone said claim was NAI so I just backed off and now I'm trying to think about it.

I see no reason for town to claim vig in the first place though.
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October 21 2015 21:33 GMT
#1008
ah, I did already post so this should be more concise wording

On October 22 2015 03:58 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 22 2015 03:49 Eversince wrote:
Glowing when I couldn't wrap my head around the Sick claim yesterday I was giving mafia vibes to you.
Rels reiterates basically what I was pondering to the note why not pick at him?


It's not about WHAT you said, it is about the initial disinterest you had on the claim.

I mean, there was a claim AND a counter claim but instead of dropping any discussion you were having to give thoughts about it, you kept pushing Boxerfred. I would expect a townie to immediately react to the claims. Unless you know both their alignmebts, so it is disinteresting


I didn't know what the claim vs the counter claim meant. So I tried to think about what it could mean, then brought what my thoughts to the thread. I put a confirmed town on Sick when he claimed, changed it to a confirmed mafia read when Rels countered and Sick admitted to not being the vig. Then everyone said the claim is NAI so I tried to think on why you would do it as town and couldn't figure it.

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October 21 2015 21:37 GMT
#1010
On October 22 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you provide a sample of what you mean? I feel the exact same as last game.


As far as this request goes, I'm not really comfortable. I don't know how to use meta reads. I never play with the same group of people more than a few times.

I'd simply advise anyone who has questions about my thoughts to skim through the first couple pages of our last game.
Fecal was very open and chatty, spoke about his reads, poked around at people and generally just was very lighthearted but still productive.

Not true so far in this game.
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October 21 2015 21:39 GMT
#1013
I'd had him as a slight scum/null read before that. I was literally contemplating if he could fit into a scum group at the end of N1.
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October 21 2015 21:44 GMT
#1016
On October 22 2015 06:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 04:38 sicklucker wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:37 Eversince wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
these wagons are so boring

Please explain.


its the two people who always get lynched


Hmm? I've played one game, was so obviously town, and the game ended before I could be mislynched.


ya and everyone wanted to lynch you in that hard

Is this true ?


No idea. I wouldn't be surprised though. I role-played that game. I took the first half of the game seriously then people started to give me a hard time over the way I was typin'. So I got mad and went full steam, and took it to the next level =).

Then my internet died, and I missed the last half. I tried to replace that game because of it. Game was over by the time I got the problem resolved. I never bothered readin' the last of it.
What's it really matter though?
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October 21 2015 21:50 GMT
#1020
He didn't do much prior either. But that's true for several people. I've already mentioned my idea it's because mafia knows it didn't matter which way the lynch went.
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October 21 2015 23:29 GMT
#1033
I'm so motivated to think Shining's town now.

##unvote
##Vote: The Shining
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October 22 2015 00:31 GMT
#1059
On October 22 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
as in stfu im not telling you my role pm


After you claim fake vig, admit to lying about it....
And now you have ANOTHER role pm?! What the...
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October 22 2015 00:43 GMT
#1078
Sick's claim already looks stupid to me. The fact he says he MIGHT be vt, vet, or COP on top of everything else.
Sick can't be a cop after last nights play. This makes no sense. "I'm shootin' somone folks!"
"I'm trying to buy the mafia bullet so real vig doesn't die"
"OH I MIGHT be the cop"

No.

##Unvote
##Vote: Sicklucker
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October 22 2015 00:45 GMT
#1079
This also confirms Rels as town.
Good job mafia Sick. I'm disappointed in myself it took this long to realize.
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October 22 2015 00:52 GMT
#1086
I don't care. I've had half this game tryin' to lynch me since D1. I'm done defending myself. If that wasn't a mafia claim, I don't know what is.

You literally claim vig N1 under the premise of drawing mafia nk.
You then claim vet and possibly cop.

You have 4 roles this game. VT, False claimed Vig, Vet, and Cop.

Let me ask you a question, if you are cop who the fuck got checked N1 over me? I am the most highly disputed person in this game. If you're actually town in this scenario why is my alignment not important to you? If it was why was it left until 24 hours into D2, when people still pretty much want to burn me, to bring to notice?
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October 22 2015 00:53 GMT
#1089
Oh wait, you couldn't possibly be trying to draw a shot for claiming the shot if you a Cop. So you're not one. You're not a vig either as you admitted yourself. So why should I believe your other claims?
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October 22 2015 01:02 GMT
#1097
On October 22 2015 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 09:31 Eversince wrote:
On October 22 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
as in stfu im not telling you my role pm


After you claim fake vig, admit to lying about it....
And now you have ANOTHER role pm?! What the...


i have a role pm that says i am either a vet/vt or cop im not going to help mafia know...


You soft claim all three here. You've already admitted to fake claiming vig.
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October 22 2015 01:07 GMT
#1103
So you are just throwing out you MIGHT be cop but didn't bother checking me last night? Even though out of the major wagons on D1 I was the big "?". Please friend. Fake claiming vig as vet I still can't understand.

You wanted to soak up a bullet for a power role.
Except that power role already spent his power.
All 4 setups have a mafia RB. So even if you are town vet in this scenario, you just gave up the last power role we had to soak the shot for a vig that already shot his rifle?


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October 22 2015 01:11 GMT
#1109
On October 22 2015 10:10 The Shining wrote:
So Eversince once again completely ignores my response to her and just comes off of me to vote SL for some weird sorting BS. When the way it looks like to me is just trying to wifom the scumteam.

Also this is why I really don't give two shits about this game. Every time I'm in this thread I either get scummed or ignored. It's quite fun.


I must of missed your post Shining. Point me in the right direction and I will respond with haste!
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October 22 2015 01:12 GMT
#1113
On October 22 2015 10:11 sicklucker wrote:
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On October 22 2015 10:07 Eversince wrote:
So you are just throwing out you MIGHT be cop but didn't bother checking me last night? Even though out of the major wagons on D1 I was the big "?". Please friend. Fake claiming vig as vet I still can't understand.

You wanted to soak up a bullet for a power role.
Except that power role already spent his power.
All 4 setups have a mafia RB. So even if you are town vet in this scenario, you just gave up the last power role we had to soak the shot for a vig that already shot his rifle?




when theres a close vote its common sense to check the players alignments involved so we can solve the game with vote logic. Knowing your alignment is the most important peice of information town can have in this game. im glad I have it


Good! I'm glad people can finally stop tunneling me (hopefully). But your is still a mystery to me and nothing about what just happened makes any sense.
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October 22 2015 01:18 GMT
#1117
Where?
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October 22 2015 01:20 GMT
#1119
Also wtf, if Moosy claims doc and didn't save Kelsier. I might even put a back burner vote on Sicklucker right now to change my vote back to him for just not playin'.
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October 22 2015 01:21 GMT
#1120
This game is confusing the bonkers out of me right now between you guys.
I'm taking a brief break. I'll be back in 30 minutes.
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October 22 2015 01:35 GMT
#1124
On October 22 2015 10:23 The Shining wrote:
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On October 22 2015 09:07 The Shining wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:29 Eversince wrote:
I'm so motivated to think Shining's town now.

##unvote
##Vote: The Shining


Remind me never to /in in a game with you ever again. Your tunnels are so fucking poor on me, its pathetic and you've had it out for me in this game and last, for no good reason, since I don't even know who the fuck you are. Like srsly, if you're going to vote me and scum me, at least case me. Not "oh I'm motivated to think he's town now" then slam a vote on me. If you see I'm here, go about you interact with me or figure out how Im scum or town? Nope, instead its just vote. Because Rels wants to lynch me and I'm on a few peoples suspicious list so you want to get my mislynch going. This is not a town mindset.

This game you weren't even the interactive player you were last game and you were the other wagon to town Scott. Vig shot was best on you to give us more information on how the lynch turned out. Sorry if that hurt your feelings but its true. Also i still think youre scum so theres that.

##Vote: Eversince


I freaking voted you. I shouldn't have to ask you to interact with me after you vote me and I vote you for the same reasons I voted you D1. You should be noticing and doing this on your own, not just slamming a vote on me and then moving onto a completely different topic and vote RE: SL


You never really did though. And you're pullin' the same stuff again. My tunnels are poor? Sorry that I think your lack of contribution and anger (mostly at me) for when I'm not even around are contrived? Maby poor reasoning. I admit to that. But at least I'm putting out the best I can. I never claimed to be good. Your feeding on that to choose to not play at all. I can't interact with you. You've been gone for 60? somethin' hours. I have no clue where you stand. What's there to talk about? Don't expect me to pry teeth to not want to lynch you. It has nothin' to do with anyone else.

I'm not even going to address the second paragraph of your sentence. You either aren't reading the thread or want to mis-lynch me.
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October 22 2015 01:56 GMT
#1126
Shining, I'm not even going to start a food fight with you.

Let us just talk. What are some of you other reads right now then?

How do you feel about Moosy? Fecal? Vonthin?
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October 22 2015 02:02 GMT
#1127
OH Shining, believe it or not, I can relate so closely.

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince, Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfred
KelsierSC (0): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, Eversince
Vonthin (0): Fecalfeast
sicklucker (0): GlowingBear
boxerfred (0): MoosyDoosy
GlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosy

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All because I only had 3 hours. I did almost die for it. People have largely ignored everything I've said since. Yeh, please try to guilt trip me some more. I'm buyin' it. I'm trying to give you a chance to play before I make final decisions.
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October 22 2015 02:07 GMT
#1128
##unvote

For the moment.
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October 22 2015 02:18 GMT
#1130
Where does Farah's town read come from you then? Because her's is mostly a gut tells too if I am remembering things right.
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October 22 2015 02:21 GMT
#1131
I need to go back on Vonthin myself really though. My eyes were sore after Fecal's wall post. What make's him so town to you right now? Did you read what I said about his wall post? Why didn't he just follow along with the thread vs holding out for 75 something hours to post that big post?
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October 22 2015 02:28 GMT
#1134
I like Boxer right now. Vonthin could either be real lazy town or mafia. I only skimmed his last post after the Fecal post. But he's mostly just been hanging in the shadows and there really isn't any reason to do that as town right now. Mainly under the assumption he was vig tryin' to remain under the radar.

Glowing seems alright to me. I think Moosy is the best bet for mafia there. Filter me in particular. Then look at his follow-up.
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October 22 2015 02:32 GMT
#1135
Did you catch the Sick/ Rels claims? What do you think of those?
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October 22 2015 02:39 GMT
#1137
Boxer's been a bit' of a odd read for me. I missed the interaction D1 so I just ran from N1 and on mostly.
Hard tunnel on me but most did. There was a single of his post that just seemed fluffly at the bottom. Several fluff post, but no, not much to spur at for me
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October 22 2015 02:47 GMT
#1140
@Shining

I'll try to be around whenever you come back around.

But now that our tempers are cooled a bit, who are you main mafia reads for the lynch so far?
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October 22 2015 02:50 GMT
#1141
Anyone else about that want's to talk?! I'm bored and too much to figure out still...
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October 22 2015 03:02 GMT
#1144
I don't have a gun and vig is dead so I can't play this joke -tear-

I would be real inclined to shoot between you and Sick though. Mainly I don't like your post Fecal and I don't understand Sick's claims. The longer you too go on, the more I come back to this thread and go "I am so confused". Then I immediately want to leave.
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October 22 2015 03:03 GMT
#1145
oh never mind wrong game lol! Vig is spent.
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October 22 2015 16:18 GMT
#1203
I just skimmed the thread and want to post this before headin' home.

I'm going back to my Moosy vote. He's done jack all today STILL. So just look at what I posted about him before for reasoning here. He's the best lynch.

##vote: MoosyDoosy


I'll be around in 30-45 minutes
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October 22 2015 17:50 GMT
#1221
I already made a Moosy case. Did you miss it?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 17:53 GMT
#1223
On October 22 2015 05:38 Eversince wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 19 2015 01:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Again, boxerfred is really weird.

In his opening post he crammed a VT claim, a complaint, and a scum read.

In his next post, he tries to place blame on me for posting gif's when I didn't. He even tries to scum read me for it which is lol-worthy.

Just scum reading me here is also super surface level because he's not looking into how I operate and more about my outwards appearance.

His attempt to say he knows my meta is terrible because he was only in the game where I was Mafia and he's not making any effort to check my others game where I literally do the same thing as I did in that game.

I mean...What is there to like?

- Awkward first opening
- Says I started gif wars when I didn't even participate
- Scum reads me for gif's which I didn't even post
- Applies appearance reads
- Makes no attempt to support his supposed “meta” read

##unvote
##vote boxerfred


On October 20 2015 02:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 02:23 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:18 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary.

What do you think of "newbie scum maybe wouldn't have 3 scumread in his first serious post" ? Is this a bad reasonning ?

??

I mean, the game is to find 3 scum so why wouldn't he if he's either town or mafia emulating town?

Cause I remarked as scum he's super difficult to scumread town 'cause you're afraid they will scumread you back. So I was thinking maybe he's not scum because he did that. But now I'm thinking maybe that ain't a strong reasonning.

I guess? As I said, there's not enough to go on Vonthin right now.

I'm willing to not lynch boxerfred so long as he tries not to scumread me for made-up or ridiculous reasons in the future.


On October 20 2015 04:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:37 boxerfred wrote:
im here, gonna catch up. exhausted as fuck since I moved in today. I said that pregame, just to clear it up guys. anything urgent happening?

There are 2 major wagons. What are your thoughts on them?


On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince, Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfred
KelsierSC (0): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, Eversince
Vonthin (0): Fecalfeast
sicklucker (0): GlowingBear
boxerfred (0): MoosyDoosy
GlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosy

Not voted (0):

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is mandatory! Voting is done here in this thread. PM the hosts if the vote count is not correct.


On October 20 2015 21:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I like the bf tunnel. I'd like to volunteer for D2 lynch willingly.


On October 20 2015 22:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 20 2015 21:53 boxerfred wrote:
Did you read what I wrote?

not really tbh. I assumed it had to do with killing me.


On October 22 2015 05:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 22 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 22 2015 03:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol.


No it's cute that you keep scumreading him even after you voted WITH him last day

scum reading boxer? where? I now have a town read on him.



Progression is you obviously are mafia reading him before lynch. Change votes but still are questioning him. Vote with him anyway, even as a mafia read. Can't be bothered to even read the thread. Then give him a town read. Right then.

Combine that on top of this:
Spamming a bunch, gets into a big fight with Kelsier over not fleshing out why he has a read that he had.
Didn't seem to care about the lynch.
Never ends up answering Kelsier.
Changes out spamming for one liners and never does follow up.
Drops his main scum read and can't even be bothered to properly read the thread. Ignoring is previous mafia post is just curious.
His vote on me is is a meta read.
Continuing to do nothing so far.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:01 GMT
#1233
On October 23 2015 03:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 02:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 23 2015 02:56 Rels wrote:
FF what happened to BF being scum ?

Sadly, the honest answer is i forgot about him. This is a common phenomenon among those who partake.

No. Townies do not forget their scumreads. He was one of your two scumreads. He answered directly to you, saying he would answer your question later and didn't.
Find me a town game where you forgot about a scumread please. Quotes would be appreciated.


This is very true. I still don't much care for Sick but took a Moosy vote because Fecal was voting for him.

I would happily vote between all 3 of them.
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:26 GMT
#1255
On October 23 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will.


But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it.

What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia?


Oh the bells! I like you Glowing. I said this same thing last night.
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:28 GMT
#1260
On October 23 2015 03:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will.


But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it.

What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia?

Rels' team


Huh?
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:33 GMT
#1268
On October 19 2015 17:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote vonthin

His filter is the worst out of all the filters.

Runners up:
scotty
Lonemeow
Eversince

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:


(4)KelsierSC can't do this as town:

On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.

The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"


Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion.


I'd like you to elaborate on what makes this post so bad that KDC is scum for it please


On October 23 2015 03:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 03:27 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I want to know why you think my filter is scummy, pretend you didn't read my old game I played

I don't. I'm sheeping baaa


Really now?
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:36 GMT
#1275
Yeh your reads lack any sort of natural progress friend lol.
Since the start of the game, how strange!
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:36 GMT
#1276
Yeh, Boxer's post looks all sorts of strange to me too right now.
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 18:48 GMT
#1305
On October 23 2015 03:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 23:45 Rels wrote:
On October 22 2015 23:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I think your case is a little flawed because yes, he did the same thing last game as mafia, but a "meta" case must prove not only that he does that stuff as mafia, but that he CAN'T or NEVER do that stuff as town.

The thing is, it's not a meta case to begin with. How he played EOD1 was scummy. Thinking the two main wagons were not likely to be mafia, having a scumread; but not pushing it.

The townie way to play that wuold be to defend your townreads and push your scumread.

It only starts to be meta after that, because he was in kinda the same situation the last two games he played:
- as mafia he did the same thing
- as town he did not do the same thing; in fact, he reacted the town way described above


you cant say I didnt push my scum read.. I was lobbying for shennanies but no one was biting and I even still voted him in protest ( and because my vote didnt matter)


Bolonga! You had the softest "Guys? Maby we lynch this guy? I mean, only if you feel like it?"

That's like saying you tried to cut down a tree with a pillow.
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October 22 2015 18:52 GMT
#1313
On October 23 2015 03:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 11:40 The Shining wrote:
Ohhhhh goodie I'm getting out of work a little early tonight. I'll be back in about an hr and a half, commute home from work and all. Bbs

I really really really want to lynch that


I really haven't liked much of anything Shining's done this entire game.
I did like the way he responded to me last night though so I'm also worried I'm just realllly tunneled on him.

I admit, I was rather annoyed at staying up to continue of talk and him never showing back up. That's really suspicious. More so considering "I get off early" implying he'd have free time when he got home.
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:05 GMT
#1338
scott and myself where were mafia, Moosy was a loose mafia
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:05 GMT
#1341
Grammar is beyond me -sigh-
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:09 GMT
#1346
On October 23 2015 04:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
And why is ever being town read now?


Your eternal tunnel on me is cute. I hope you are way more active on D3 than D2. I didn't want to hang you today because, while misguided, I understood where you were coming from D1. You really did nothing this day. Going into tomorrow, I am not going to roll over and let you hurl bologna at me for no reason.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:41 GMT
#1375
On October 23 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
well maybe not mod killable but hey were not saposed to speculate. (even tho everyone else posted)


Moosy posted some BS about asking to be 3rd lurker out of the woods.


Then proceeds to lurk some more.
I'm perfectly fine with where my vote is at.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:48 GMT
#1389
Let's stop talking about who the replacement could be for. It's seriously just confusin' my reads to all hell. Especially if I turn out to be wrong about mafia Moosy here. If a replacement breaks this game I am going to be real hard pressed to care about it anymore.
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:50 GMT
#1394
On October 23 2015 04:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:48 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I actually don't know about the lynch, if MD was town he would care more. But the scum game of his I read awhile ago seems he cares more as scum so there's that to.

Maybe we should look elsewhere idk

I kinda think that too.


Who?

I like Fecal vote. I don't like Shining either. Like his re-entry here seems so opportunistic. Why is it he comes back in the lick of time and just vanishes again?
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:52 GMT
#1399
I could go Sick too. Vonthin maby except for I think Shining has a decent chance at mafia. No one cares so much to care so little. His top mafia read right now seems to be Vonthin, so I don't want to vote that direction.
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 19:53 GMT
#1404
I'm not sure if we should or not. Moosy has a good chance at mafia here. His play doesn't add up at all. Screw it. Yeh, I'm staying parked. Like I just said. This replacement talk is making me second guess myself all over the place. Because of that, I'm done thinking about it.
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 20:01 GMT
#1424
.... I'm so tired of this game.

We are going to lose because town doesn't play. I should just exit this and go take walk.
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Eversince
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 20:05 GMT
#1435
What makes Sick town Rels?
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October 22 2015 20:09 GMT
#1443
On October 23 2015 05:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:05 Eversince wrote:
What makes Sick town Rels?

Association if Vonthin is scum.

D1:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 22:34 sicklucker wrote:
how anyone can scum read scott off his 3 posts is mind blogging, Does he have a history of a history of not playing as scum? because I know he often never posts as town. I could very well lynch him because I have alot of other town reads but its a pretty random one.

Vonthin on the other hand might be scum alot more of the time. He has more posts that are mostly filler except his weak list post. unlike scott He might have a history of making alot of posts as town (he only has 6) somoone should look into that.

6 posts and 4 of them are filler


I'm not sure. That doesn't change much. You give him a pass for a meta read?
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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 20:13 GMT
#1447
I am really terrible at this association thing. Can someone break it down for me like I'm disabled? Sick/ Vonthin.
Vonthin/ Fecal. I'm not postin' as sarcasm, I really don't understand how people are making the connections and I feel like I need to be able to.








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Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 21:01 GMT
#1457
On October 23 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
SL/Boxerfred/prob ES


Out of curiosity, explain your reads here.

Sick I totally understand.
Boxer I'm slightly confused about.
And me, is it just completely the fact that I think you're mafia?
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 21:24 GMT
#1465
On October 23 2015 06:06 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 06:01 Eversince wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
SL/Boxerfred/prob ES


Out of curiosity, explain your reads here.

Sick I totally understand.
Boxer I'm slightly confused about.
And me, is it just completely the fact that I think you're mafia?


Not completely. You were abrasive and aggressive last game and you've been a pretty much non factor this game. SL hard towns you and you keep saying SL is scum but youve done nothing about it. Note that the last time we went head to head as town, you had some support and not many ppl believed I was town. And you hammered it into oblivion. This time around, you backed off and yet you still think I'm scum with weak to no proof. It's like you want someone else to push my mislynch so you can jump on it and say you thought I was scum all along.

Boxer I shouldn't have to repeat myself. I said why he could be scum before the flip even happened. He was an off wagon voter and did nothing to save his "townread" in Moosy, even though now he says he had Moosy as a townlean early into D2. Which means he had more time to convince himself Moosy was town and more time to defend him. But he chose to just waste his vote instead.


Really friend?

I called out Sick not 20 hours ago. We danced for a minute. I think he's mafia and still do so far. How am I approaching this game differently again? I implore you to read my filter from the moment I broke, got sick of the luggage from D1, and decided to proceeded on this game? I "backed off" you? Yeh, because to that point you hadn't posted anything. I don't have proof? FRIEND, look at your game! You've gone from bleh, bleh early game. "Oh Jesus! Eversince is so mafia because she didn't reply to me" (When I couldn't even possibly do that)

Now you just take the shallow road back to I must be mafia because I have an issue with you?
Blast, I wish we had changed onto you for the last lynch. I'm so going to try to hang you tomorrow.
Your entire game is to paint me as mafia for findin' your complete disregard to play this game as bad. Hold on. Let me go afk for the next 70 hours. I'll be so town if I don't point anything out right?

You're so mafia it hurts.
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 21:29 GMT
#1471
On October 23 2015 06:27 sicklucker wrote:
i woulda voted scott d1 if it was a closer vote. i said this in thread


....
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 21:31 GMT
#1473
how?

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince, Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfred
KelsierSC (0): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, Eversince
Vonthin (0): Fecalfeast
sicklucker (0): GlowingBear
boxerfred (0): MoosyDoosy
GlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosy

Not voted (0):

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

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How much closer of a vote can you get?
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Eversince
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 22 2015 21:32 GMT
#1474
OR maby I am mis-understandin' here. If you are refering to D2 counts. Somebody say so and I'll shut up.
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October 22 2015 21:33 GMT
#1476
A little yeh.
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October 22 2015 21:43 GMT
#1477
Ah garbage. You guys are talkin' about another game in the first place. I hate meta. I'm just going to go read for a while. I'll be around for another 3-5 hours. I Have to work tomorrow so I won't be around from the time I leave until some point early D3. If people want to talk to me, do it within that time span. I'll check back into this game every 20 or so minutes.
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Philippines2301 Posts
October 24 2015 17:30 GMT
#1754
Fara saying I have done nothing is such lie. I was all over the place on D2 trying to figure things out.

You on the other hand look something like this
D1: Super active, trying to figure out the game, picking your targets and pushing them hard.
D2: "Basically fall off the grid, ride on town credit, ignore anything that isn't related to lynching me, do nothing else
D3: Come into lylo happily saying "Ok, we just have to find 4 town."
180 that post on the same page. Proceeds to not find any town.
Gets argumentative/ uncooperative when people are trying to talk to her to figure her motives/thoughts.
Refuses to play the game and Martyr's.
And now you're picking up your tunnel on me again by saying I've done nothing this game which is clearly false.
It's literally impossible for town to play this way.

After being so invested in this game D1, I find the chain of events of D2, and now D3 extremely unlikely from town. And the events of D3 are at worst an outright sympathy plee from mafia to try to avoid a correct lynch putting high odds of a mislynch.

vote: FarahBlackwing
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October 24 2015 17:31 GMT
#1755
##vote: FarahBlackwing
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October 24 2015 17:33 GMT
#1756
On October 25 2015 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll sheep you Rels. I'm burned out and I have no motivation to put more effort here. I'll whoever you want to lynch today

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October 24 2015 17:36 GMT
#1758
On October 25 2015 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll sheep you Rels. I'm burned out and I have no motivation to put more effort here. I'll whoever you want to lynch today


I hate this quote too. I like Boxer's/ Rels points on Glowing too.

But there is no reason for town to not want to put effort in here. If we don't, we lose.
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October 24 2015 20:40 GMT
#1794
No I voted you because the game is basically solved in my head right now. There is no way you can make the play you did as town. If I get lynched today the game is over. If you are not mafia: Throwing a temper tantrum, matyring and refusing to play the game means the game is over. The only reason to make that play is out of desperation to get people to feel bad because as you repeatedly say "I'm new!" Which means you're mafia.

Which means Fara/GB/Vonthin if I'm not mistaken.

What GB just did makes perfect sense if you're a mafia team. soft defended? Immediately drops mafia read.

Shining is so town for no reason the only way you could possibly know his alignment? Thanks for forcin' me to believe Shining isn't mafia for the first time in this game.

Soft push on mafia buddy Vonthin a few times throughout the game? When have you ever remotely tried to push Vonthin like you've chased after me? Never. Because you can't. You know I'm town so it's right back off your top mafia read to the tunnel on me.

I'm so sure my vote is in the right place. And thanks for actually playing today Fecal. You made me rethink a lot of things by actually postin' shit today.
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October 25 2015 16:41 GMT
#1867
On October 26 2015 00:36 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm not Really discrediting you rels, if I'm to be honest I just don't have a great faith in you being able to get off tunnels.



On October 26 2015 01:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
The funny thing is I'm not jumping on boxer because it's the wrong play lol.

His claim is obviously false but it is what it is.

And I'm probably to harsh on rels, which I apologize for. But you do have a tunnel problem that the slightest thing make you initiate and ignores everything else.



On October 26 2015 01:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
The funny thing is I'm not jumping on boxer because it's the wrong play lol.

His claim is obviously false but it is what it is.

And I'm probably to harsh on rels, which I apologize for. But you do have a tunnel problem that the slightest thing make you initiate and ignores everything else.


This is so funny coming from you since alls you've done this game is hard tunnel on me.
You absolutely did tried to discredit Rels. To the point of claiming he's so bad you aren't even going to play the game anymore.

Saying that his claim is fake and then not lynching the confirmed mafia in LYLO? What.

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October 25 2015 16:59 GMT
#1877
On October 26 2015 01:55 Vonthin wrote:
There is no reason for the doctor to counter role claim in this situation. If you really are the doctor and we end up lynching FF then scum just kill you at night and they will most likely win after that. FF is town even without the claim, he has been playing the game and making good reads. You have been scumming it up for the whole game.

Also ES you have been just counter tunneling Farah the whole game so I don't know how you can say that lol

Farahs point is correct about lynching the RB but I think the chances are just as good for GB to be the RB as ES


This is such a lie. I didn't even have her as a mafia LEAN until basically the end of D2.
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October 26 2015 08:16 GMT
#2023
Chirp chirp.~
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October 27 2015 22:15 GMT
#2108
##Vote: The Shining
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October 30 2015 03:57 GMT
#2162
Thanks for the game everyone~!
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 20:40 GMT
#2239
Woo good game guys. Congrats for the townies. Yeh, my game kind of fell off hard especially after D2.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 20:50:11
October 31 2015 20:49 GMT
#2241
On November 01 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On November 01 2015 05:40 Eversince wrote:
Woo good game guys. Congrats for the townies. Yeh, my game kind of fell off hard especially after D2.

You were right tho. Your game was totes different from your town game. XD


It's really hard for me to emulate my town game as mafia. I should of role-played it to be fair. I would of had better luck if I was playin' a part and not really worrying about "logic".

That alone got me hung up on several different occasions.

Quick tid-bit: I did make it to D3! This was the longest I've ever stayed alive as mafia before d=.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 20:58 GMT
#2244
I think killing Farah was fine. I wasn't involved in that vote but as best as I can understand;

There was no way of leaving Farah/Shining up.

Neither would vote the other, so the only option Vonthin really had was to risk leaving the confirmed up and rollin' the dice. It did come really close for him. Much closer than I think it would of been if he hadn't chose to kill Farah.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 21:13 GMT
#2246
Mmm, maby. The way I saw it, it could of been you Farah, Shining, Vonthin or you, FF, Shining and Vonthin

Scenario 1 has 2 people who are off the table entirely.
Leaving you and Vonthin, with 2 people who will probably hard align and vote together regardless.

Scenario 2 at least leaves the remainder of the game to forcably choose between you, Vonthin and Shining. Which is something I don't believe would of been possible on scenario 1.

Hopefully that makes sense...
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 21:41 GMT
#2256
On November 01 2015 06:34 KelsierSC wrote:
pretty clutch plays in the final day good job guys.

Was a pretty fun game overall even though I only got to play one day. Vonthin's bus D1 really threw me off.

I hope everyone sticks around and plays more games on the site.



I think he only did it because I was actually gone for almost all of D1.
I played no mind games there. My net died on Sat night and wasn't up again until around 14:00 or so on Monday...
Complete bogus considering I waited like 3 or 4 days to make sure my net wasn't having hiccups before I signed up for this game. Sure enough, I sign up, and my net crashes right at the start of the game.

I pretty much gave up at the end of D2 partly because of this too. I had this big missin' space from D1 where I wasn't around. I couldn't figure out how to contribute enough on D2 (I can't re-read the thread a bunch of times and try to space things) and after I was still getting hit with things from the start I had no motivation to fight anymore. Realistically, I should of just buggered all and not cared. My read through and attempt at sharin' thought actually put me on a lot of people mafia list.

FYI for future me: Just afk. Period.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 21:43:57
October 31 2015 21:42 GMT
#2257
On November 01 2015 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:
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On November 01 2015 06:37 Vonthin wrote:
Also the day 1 bus I was like 90% sure that scott was gonna be the lynch so I felt safe with ES yet to vote, you guys were so sure on him with so little information


well it was D1 so i'm not sure what information you are talking about but I don't think that lynch was bad, disregarding the fact he was town.


I think scott lynch was fine. But mainly it came down to scott who was a lurker lynch who had got caught and never explains himself in a lie.

Or me, who was along the same lines. (I didn't lie but my thought process was misunderstood and a lot of people had questions for me. Sadly I was not around to answer them. When I was it made me look worse because of the time difference.)
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 21:54 GMT
#2259
If over emphasizing is lying, I suppose. I would of had an issue with your exchange with Moosy in the early part of the game regardless of alignment. That is solely the reason I picked it up. I probably would not have put a case out. Especially the hastily written, unprocessed case that I did post. That would of likely never have happened if I wasn't mafia,

Re-previous statement to myself; Shut up, ignore it, and proceed to afk. If I get lynched for being away that's fine. If I get mafia read for the whole game because I was largely in-active and produced a terrible case... well. Not ok. More on that is because of my absence and the off push on you (Kelsier) and a hint on FF (which is another story because while people downed me for it, he got attention on D2 for the same reasons I hinted at. I simply wasn't around at the time to expand on it. I think I mentioned this some point.)
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 22:04:32
October 31 2015 22:03 GMT
#2262
On November 01 2015 06:58 KelsierSC wrote:
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On November 01 2015 06:54 Eversince wrote:
If over emphasizing is lying, I suppose. I would of had an issue with your exchange with Moosy in the early part of the game regardless of alignment. That is solely the reason I picked it up. I probably would not have put a case out. Especially the hastily written, unprocessed case that I did post. That would of likely never have happened if I wasn't mafia,

Re-previous statement to myself; Shut up, ignore it, and proceed to afk. If I get lynched for being away that's fine. If I get mafia read for the whole game because I was largely in-active and produced a terrible case... well. Not ok. More on that is because of my absence and the off push on you (Kelsier) and a hint on FF (which is another story because while people downed me for it, he got attention on D2 for the same reasons I hinted at. I simply wasn't around at the time to expand on it. I think I mentioned this some point.)


I know you couldn't help it in this game but AFK'ing is generally a bad idea.


Well I'm not sure how I could of entered differently. This is bound to happen from time to time until I move (Yeh, I'm fed up with my net enough that this is actually going to happen within the next 1-2 months). So my options were, try to post where I was at, or post complete filler meaning I didn't care to even read this game at the time, or be modkilled for in-activity.

I ended up ployin' the I really have no clue what's going on right now at the end of D1 (Mostly true, I had read through the game once and a lot of post where complete waste of space.) If I had done that from the get up, maby I would have been lynched, maby not. But on the end of D1, I had as much chance of flipping town as mafia, I didn't check my role pm until I was about to leave the library.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 23:39 GMT
#2275
On November 01 2015 08:35 KelsierSC wrote:
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On November 01 2015 08:22 sicklucker wrote:
On November 01 2015 06:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 01 2015 06:42 Eversince wrote:
On November 01 2015 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 01 2015 06:37 Vonthin wrote:
Also the day 1 bus I was like 90% sure that scott was gonna be the lynch so I felt safe with ES yet to vote, you guys were so sure on him with so little information


well it was D1 so i'm not sure what information you are talking about but I don't think that lynch was bad, disregarding the fact he was town.


I think scott lynch was fine. But mainly it came down to scott who was a lurker lynch who had got caught and never explains himself in a lie.

Or me, who was along the same lines. (I didn't lie but my thought process was misunderstood and a lot of people had questions for me. Sadly I was not around to answer them. When I was it made me look worse because of the time difference.)


I mean...you did lie though. that's sort of what scum has to do


scum dont really lie thats a myth.


yeh she probably thought I was mafia even though she knew everyone's alignment



For a large part of my first catch up, I didn't know my alignment. Assumin' you are referring to me, I was in the dark about alignments as much as everyone else.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 31 2015 23:42 GMT
#2278
Sadly, I have work early tomorrow. I need to go to rest. I'll be watchin' for tips and more games though!

Nights~
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 01 2015 05:48 GMT
#2287
Aww, it's bound to happen I think Glowing. Schedules are subject to change without much notice.
I don't see a point in arguing you'd not play with someone because of it. Maby if it was your 3'rd game and you'd afked your way through all of them. Farah did really good. I think she had the entire mafia team squared by late D3. The only thing that gave her pause (Obs QT) was you/Vonthin.

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