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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 01:27 GMT
#1122
On October 22 2015 10:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 10:11 The Shining wrote:
On October 22 2015 10:09 sicklucker wrote:
On October 22 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 22 2015 10:01 sicklucker wrote:
FF do you not think gb is town for his angle here? I know its frustrating as hell tho

Mnneeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh I hate it so muc hthough


well now that gb cant tunnel on me anymore he will have a chance to show some things i hope


Well its a good thing he effortlessly decided you're townie now and missed my post scumming him for EoD. Inb4 I get OMGUSd by GB

(I also made that point in my big post on GB, we should be friends)


I thought we were alrdy
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 01:46 GMT
#1125
I never really did what? Vote you? That bold part says otherwise. Pulling the same stuff again? Hm. OH IDK MAYBE CUZ IM TOWN AGAIN? DUH. My anger is contrived? Lol OK. I just got fed up with you because every time you are around, its to pop up and give some BS reason to lynch Shining. Or no reason and just drop a vote instead.

If you think I'm choosing not to play, then so be it, that's your opinion and I'll just pretend my RL just doesn't exist and shouldn't exist so I can play this game. We can also ignore the parts where I'm actually posting when I'm here.

And thank you for proving my point. I've been gone xyz amount of hours and yet I'm here right now and you have no idea where I stand. But it never once occurred you to ask? About where I stand, my reads, my thoughts on literally anything? No, because you never do, you just automatically scumread me and get into shitfights with me. And once again you haven't asked. I repewt, this is not a town approach to someone who you think could be scum.

OK so you're saying I'm wrong in that you voted me and then completely moved onto Sicklucker?

On October 22 2015 08:29 Eversince wrote:
I'm so motivated to think Shining's town now.

##unvote
##Vote: The Shining


No reasoning. Next post:

On October 22 2015 09:31 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
as in stfu im not telling you my role pm


After you claim fake vig, admit to lying about it....
And now you have ANOTHER role pm?! What the...


Let's just move on and ignore Shining to pick on SL. Next post:

On October 22 2015 09:43 Eversince wrote:
Sick's claim already looks stupid to me. The fact he says he MIGHT be vt, vet, or COP on top of everything else.
Sick can't be a cop after last nights play. This makes no sense. "I'm shootin' somone folks!"
"I'm trying to buy the mafia bullet so real vig doesn't die"
"OH I MIGHT be the cop"

No.

##Unvote
##Vote: Sicklucker


Oh lookie I switched my vote to SL because he is scum. But I'm going to not mention Shining again even though he's in thread because I don't actually care about his alignment.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 02:12 GMT
#1129
Lol yay that's all I wanted you to do from the beginning.

Fecal feels town to me, although I could just be being bought off by the fact that I saw the same things he did in GB's EoD. Although it did worry me that his lynch list d1 was Scott, Lone, Vonthin, you(2 flipped town, 1 is you who I think could be scum but I'm trying to look outside my tunnel and Vonthin who I'll get to). But he's been interacting and his large post yesterday in which he went back on Vonthins old games and reevaluated him again because of it felt townie.

Moosy and Vonthin I mentioned before. Moosy is a bit of a question mark to me because I haven't gotten to his filter recently but I've mentioned him not caring means he's probably town because as scum he cares. A lot. But its a weak meta argument. He also is one of the few that had me as town but that makes sense knowing me from past games, comparing me to my tunneled town self that he's played with before.

Which brings me to Vonthin, who I think is scum. This is mostly centered around his reads on me but when I get the chance I'll redive his filter. But three times he's posted list posts or posts mentioning me where he thinks I'm town. But that townread on me is pretty unexplained and its weird, feels like TMI, coming from someone who's never played with me before. He just says he sees things he likes in my filter, but not what those things are. Vonthin, can you elaborate on this for me please? he also said he'd 100% be here late afternoon-evening and that was 24 hrs ago so I'd like to see his return.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 02:21 GMT
#1132
##Unvote

If both wagons were town and scum didn't care who died, I'd say one of Boxer/Moosy on the Scott wagon could be scum, Vonthin/GB scum on the ES wagon. But that's if I choose to believe you're town, which I'm having a little trouble with. What are your thoughts on Vonthin, GB, Boxer? I know where you are with Moosy but I'll admit being gone for 60+ hours made me more interested in filtering people instead of reading 60 hrs worth of pages in succession.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 02:25 GMT
#1133
On October 22 2015 11:18 Eversince wrote:
Where does Farah's town read come from you then? Because her's is mostly a gut tells too if I am remembering things right.


A gut read and a read on emotion iirc but it makes sense to me because like she pointed out, I'm a family friend and good friend of her husband's(also lol Rels thought I WAS her husband) and has pretty damn good knowledge on how to read me just off of my posting styles.

In short, selfmeta is shit but here it goes: its literally impossible for me to emulate my town style of posting as scum because of how erratic and emotionally charged it is. That's why Vonthins TR is what concerned me most. Moosy and Farrah both have knowledge of me I'm pasdt games. Unless Vonthin read my past games, which he didn't say he did, and without pointing out what exactly in my filter read as town, he is pulling my TR out of thin air.

But to play devil's advocate to my own points before anyone else does, I'm not entirely convinced why scum would do that, anyway. If I had a very real shot at getting mislynched, which Rels seems totally fine with pushing on account of usefulness, I would assume scum would be fine with my mislynch
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 02:32 GMT
#1136
Well some of the points and posts Fecal quoted in that WOT couldn't really have been mad wright away, because they were later posts. And to be perfectly honest, a lot of his reads lined up with mine, like the stuff on GB, his post on Boxer and his trying to flesh out on Vonthin. So either were mind melding and he's town, or hes scum and that would mean I'm scumsiding hard. But I don't think I am.

What do you like about Boxer? And you don't think GBs actions concerning you at EoD were strange? He said he didn't want to lynch you, then bounced around and got off of the Scott mislynch, then ended up on you, anyway.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 02:39 GMT
#1138
On October 22 2015 07:56 The Shining wrote:
Like tbh I'm demotivated as fuck this game, I honestly don't care too much. Maybe it's cuz game is hard as fuck. "Confirmed town" wants to put me on tilt because he thinks I'm scum after lynching town and shooting town. Don't you think maybe your reads are ass and you should reassess? But if you want to continue being bad, be bad.

Oh and besides Farrah and Vonthin, no one else is town reading me so unless you think they're my scumteam hard aligning, or I've been set up to be bussed from D1, then me being scum is kind of nonsensical.

As far as anything else in the thread, I'll reread and do what I feel is useful, when I want to. And before you ask if I have a read on SL, no, I don't, I never do, never have, never will. The guy is an enigma to me and I've said this numerous times before in other games. Unfortunately, because of who he is,I could see that roleswap attempt coming from town.

And yeah ES should've definitely been the Vig shot. But what's done is done.


I very lightly touched on it here RE: the Vig claims but I'll expand. I think Rels is confirmed town here, albeit not the best, because no one CCd him and SL even admitted to fake claiming. I also know from rolling scum with him before that SL actually likes to try and win as scum. And hell do pretty much anything. Especially if he thinks he's carrying his team. One of the things he wont do is suicide himself, though, which is basically what he risked doing by fakeclaiming and then ADMITTING to fake claiming. It's just way too risky of a play. 9/10 times scum is going to hardclaim and get the real blue lynched instead of admitting to role swapping or whatever.

What worries me more about SL tbh was his wasted vote when the wagons were only 1-2 votes apart. But his recent posting gives town vibes so it brings me back to my original dilemma which is idk how the fck to read him
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 02:40 GMT
#1139
Ohhhhh goodie I'm getting out of work a little early tonight. I'll be back in about an hr and a half, commute home from work and all. Bbs
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:33 GMT
#1360
On October 23 2015 03:57 Rels wrote:
OK Shining is probably town then. Don't see why he would ask for a replacement when in the last mafia game we were together he didn't do anything and waited the last moment to post / vote.


Lol nice trap. Now posting and voting as soon as I get to work, which is where I usually play, is going to be considered scummy lmao oh well. I got home and got into a fight with my roommate over rent so I didn't really feel like coming back into thread last night.

GB is probably town tbh, I missed his initial response to me but it made sense and his push on FF has more of the firey town GB I'm used to.

Moosy is doing fuck all while he's the leading lynch and its possible his team is bussing him. Like as town, you're supposed to fight your mislynch tooth and nail and I did think him towning me was weird. And Vonthin explained his town case pretty in depth, whereas Moosy just compared to tunneled Shining from past games and that was it.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

Also note even with my RL stuff and low activity, I've never asked for a replacement and probably never will. IMO they throw off the game and all the talk I've seen about replacements since Rels posted BH request process that. Spending time talking about replacements instead of scum is a waste of time
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:40 GMT
#1371
On October 23 2015 03:31 boxerfred wrote:
I'm here. Almost caught up. Sorry I'm late, still moving in with my girlfriend, lots of work over the day. Actually I don't think Moosy should be the lynch here although I voted him. The reason is that in my previous game with him where he was scum, once he was under pressure, he totally exploded. He exploded so much that up until this point, I hold him for a spammy, rather bad player.

I cannot read sicklucker at all, so he's not my top lynch. But I strongly recommend lynching him before a possible LYLO situation. I think that the claim he did is not really alignment indicative but if I was to interpret something into it, I'd have to say that for scum, this would be a really bad move. I don't think sicklucker is a guy who does such bad moves. So I'd actually town lean him if you guys want to nail me on that.

Thing is that MoosyDoosy even says he wants to get lynched so it's really a cheap mislynch target for scum. That would mean that this..
Show nested quote +
GlowingBear, boxerfred, Eversince, Rels, Fecalfeast, Vonthin

..contains at least one, if not two, or even three scum members. If I consider that I think Rels is town, and I am town, I have GB/FF/VT/ES in those votes.

Now look at this:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 19:52 boxerfred wrote:
The lynch should happen in between FF/GB/ES/Shining. I think those guys have the highest chance to flip scum. Second tier lynches are MD/SL(though GB scumreads him which actually makes me rethink that)/VonThin. Don't lynch: Farah. Never lynch: Rels, boxerfred.

I liked Vonthin's answers to my questions, I already said this. That brings me down to GB/FF/ES. So let's get the hammer rolling. Since Fecalfeast tends to be active whenever under pressure and tends to do shit when disregarded, I strongly suggest to lynch him. It really feels like he's lurking a lot, posting only when necessary. And that is scum behaviour and nothing else.

##unvote ##vote FecalFeast




So how did I end up off your lynch list yet again while including me in a potential scum list? You said lynch should happen between FF GB ES Shining. Then maybe MD or Vonthin. You addressed liking Vonthins answers to you so he made it off of your 2nd tier lynch list but you never explained why I made it off of your first tier lynch list.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:40 GMT
#1373
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
well maybe not mod killable but hey were not saposed to speculate. (even tho everyone else posted)


Moosy posted some BS about asking to be 3rd lurker out of the woods.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:42 GMT
#1377
On October 23 2015 04:40 sicklucker wrote:
Vonthin is just here I dont know one of his reads


He literally responded to my "his townread on me is weeird" with a town case on me. And he's got a few list posts in his filter of reads. I'm not sure on the list posts but does scum really make a drawn out towncase on someone when neither of us are a leading lynch?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:43 GMT
#1380
On October 23 2015 04:41 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
well maybe not mod killable but hey were not saposed to speculate. (even tho everyone else posted)


Moosy posted some BS about asking to be 3rd lurker out of the woods.


Then proceeds to lurk some more.
I'm perfectly fine with where my vote is at.


Yes that's what I meant. SL said everyone else has posted, implying Moosy hadn't, but he did post
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:44 GMT
#1382
On October 23 2015 04:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
well maybe not mod killable but hey were not saposed to speculate. (even tho everyone else posted)


Moosy posted some BS about asking to be 3rd lurker out of the woods.

Loving how you poped 25 minutes before deadline yet you read the thread perfectly.


Because I got to work 45 minutes ago and actually read before posting anything because I'm not boxerfred who comment on things without bring caught up.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:47 GMT
#1385
Maybe he was the replacement, maybe he wasn't. It doesn't matter. If he's town, its a hard throw that you see yourself in the lead for lynch and do absolutely nothing about it at all. It feels more likely to me he's scum and doesn't want to say too much to not incriminate his team
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:52 GMT
#1403
On October 23 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:44 The Shining wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:42 Rels wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
well maybe not mod killable but hey were not saposed to speculate. (even tho everyone else posted)


Moosy posted some BS about asking to be 3rd lurker out of the woods.

Loving how you poped 25 minutes before deadline yet you read the thread perfectly.


Because I got to work 45 minutes ago and actually read before posting anything because I'm not boxerfred who comment on things without bring caught up.

Since you care about me, what do you think about me thinking MD is town here?


Really damn strange because he was initially in your lynch list, as well, but a weak meta argument from one game coupled with Moosy doing actually nothing led you to thinking he is town. But I'm not sure what would make you look more scummy, being one of the only ones off the wagon if he flips scum, or being the only one thinking he's town if he flips town. Like both of those are almost too bad to be scum, which would leave me with you being bad town or scum with TMI if he is town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:53 GMT
#1407
On October 23 2015 04:50 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:49 Rels wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:48 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I actually don't know about the lynch, if MD was town he would care more. But the scum game of his I read awhile ago seems he cares more as scum so there's that to.

Maybe we should look elsewhere idk

I kinda think that too.


Who?

I like Fecal vote. I don't like Shining either. Like his re-entry here seems so opportunistic. Why is it he comes back in the lick of time and just vanishes again?


Where the fuck did I vanish to? I'm right fucking here
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:55 GMT
#1409
On October 23 2015 04:53 Rels wrote:
Shining I forgot to ask
Hope you're still there: Is it Fara's first game ? IRL / forum ?


AFAIK yes but her husband plays with me and I'm sure he's taught her to not be a completely clueless newbie, as well as she's gone out of her way to look up Mafia terminology, which she linked here
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:56 GMT
#1411
On October 23 2015 04:52 Eversince wrote:
I could go Sick too. Vonthin maby except for I think Shining has a decent chance at mafia. No one cares so much to care so little. His top mafia read right now seems to be Vonthin, so I don't want to vote that direction.


Except I just townread Vonthin for making a full blown town case on me, which I don't think scum would go out of their way to do. So you're not even reading the thread. Yeah you're back on my trash list
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 22 2015 19:57 GMT
#1414
On October 23 2015 04:51 sicklucker wrote:
ya i think we can kill shining


Probably scum. No reasoning. Pretty sure he TRd me at some point.
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