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On October 18 2015 23:01 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 22:56 Rels wrote:On October 18 2015 21:45 KelsierSC wrote:On October 18 2015 20:59 Rels wrote:On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...
I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.
Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.
Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.
Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?
I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.
Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list? The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point. GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy. His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB. I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy. "GB's read of me is wrong, as usual. In fact, all his reads are illogical, as usual. Oh BTW, he's scum." Does. Not. Compute. He's talking about GB as if he's town and wrong, but he's scumreading him. On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB. KSC: Please expand. when did I say GB was town Are you serious bro. 1 - The explanation is in my post: "GB's read of me is wrong, as usual. In fact, all his reads are illogical, as usual. Oh BTW, he's scum." 2 - You didn't answer the interesting part: On October 18 2015 20:59 Rels wrote:On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB. KSC: Please expand. ok, bro you confused interesting with stupid. If you actually read my latest posts I wouldn't have to rehash.
Assuming you're talking about this:
On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote:
most of the list was null and based off of a "joke phase" you have people with "horrendous openings etc." and that makes them null but I "have to be scum" because I pointed out how terrible the opening of the game was.
That is not true. He pointed out things for each of his reads that made sense. And he left out the people he had nothing to say about.
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Alright boys will be mostly inactive until tommorow. Take care all!
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On October 19 2015 02:44 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin? null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for. well just to speed things up for you or jog your memory. you asked him this. along with a lot of other stuff you typed. Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this And why do you think they're town? As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far? In his response he gave a big list of everyone as promised. Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:My reads so far: Town:Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted ScumMooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here. I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me. Don't you want to be read as a townie though? I don't particularly care tbh. Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies. Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part Anyways its bed time Most of this disagrees with your reads. So asking for someones opinion on the entire game, having them disagree with you, call you scum. I think "null someone said something" is a lame response. Unless you just asked the question without caring for the response
THIS IS THE SEXIEST MOTHERFUCKING TRAP I VE EVER SEEN
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On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.
++ it doesn't make sense
Moosy ask a guy for a list, guy provides a list, Moosy doesn't care
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On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:54 KelsierSC wrote:scott can you explain what you meant with this post On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old. I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB. Just was making sure - Thank you. To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense. I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread. I am unsure which part you mean so I'll break it all down. I wanted Moosy to explain his vote on GB, and he did so. I know all about the shit double bus very well.
Loving how scott completely missed the accusation against him, which is him saying "just making sure - thank you" when he didn't show he thought the vote was a joke in the first place. Probably scum.
##Vote scott31337
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On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.
Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.
This is so bad. Complete misrepresentation of what happened, which was GB might be scum => "hey SL what do you think of GB ?" => OK actually GB might be town => "hey GB what do you think of SL ?"
I've painted Shining's answer in a scum mentality because its the simplest explanation for what happened. Whatever, I would lynch other people before you right now. That might change, so step it up if you're town.
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OK meeting time, will finish catching up later.
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On October 19 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:On October 19 2015 05:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.
Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw. I agree it felt very haphazrd but I imagined it basically him writing down thoughts as he went through the thread. But then why ask GB and SL what they think of each other at different points instead of asking them about anyone else? Even me? Since he found at least two "bad" posts of mine, why wouldn't he ask them what they thought of me? It felt like he was trying to drive them against each other. I don't see a town motivation behind that. he asked SL about GB because he had just scumread GB and SL showed up to the thread. then time passes I guess, he town reads GB for that post. Then he asks him about SL...i don't know why, maybe he wants to ask his townread for an opinion.
OK I think KSC is town. Reason: sexy trap + this post indicates he's reading the thread super carefully and base his opinion on it. Here he corrects Shining's vision of what happened. So KSC is either good scum or town, and in either case it will be a joy to play with someone reading carefully (=
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On October 19 2015 06:14 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat. On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good. I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here. Implied question Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat. On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good. I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here. It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now. Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on. My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^ I don't remember asking you a god damn thing Forced rage for getting a response. Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat. On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good. I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here. It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now. Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on. My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^ I don't remember asking you a god damn thing There was a question implied in it because you were addressing the statement to me than to everyone else so I responded. But that's semantics which I enjoy debating anyway. But for the sake of everyone else who dislikes spam, I think I'll just end the conversation here. -snip- There was actually no question involved , the impression I got from your posting is you were more concerned with letting people know you think Rels is town than actually hunting scum. which is an incorrect priority. like bf is weird and probably, scum , yeh scott could be scum. BUT FUCKING RELS IS TOWN HOLY COW. maybe but idgaf Rehashed to get mad because Moosy thought an implied question wasn’t a question? What is gained from it? Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin? Asked question. Moosy answered. Obviously it wasn’t good enough for him but whatever, lets skip that for now. Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:44 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin? null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for. well just to speed things up for you or jog your memory. you asked him this. along with a lot of other stuff you typed. On October 18 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this And why do you think they're town? As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far? In his response he gave a big list of everyone as promised. On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:My reads so far: Town:Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted ScumMooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here. I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me. Don't you want to be read as a townie though? I don't particularly care tbh. Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies. Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part Anyways its bed time Most of this disagrees with your reads. So asking for someones opinion on the entire game, having them disagree with you, call you scum. I think "null someone said something" is a lame response. Unless you just asked the question without caring for the response Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple. Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? Crap, he says the same thing again instead! Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:53 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat. On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good. I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here. This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on. Eversince still has not posted, either. I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here. who is he? Pointless post. Someone in the game. Obviously. Why make this post? You were prodding on scott before this if I remember correctly. Why not follow that here instead of asking about me?(if I am confusing Kelsier for another person here ignore the bit about talkin’ to scott.) So this next post really has to be a conclusion on if Moosy is scum for not spillin’ the marbles right??! Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring. What?! It’s not?! Instead we just get a rehashing of the same stuff again. Yeh friend, we got it, you don’t like his response! Surely this next post will be it! Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring. huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something. you splurge pretty much everything else. So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said" Rehashed like four times and you still don’t “have his story down”? Are you being for real right now? Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it? Random prod that he already knows he’s not going to get more information from. Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:06 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring. huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something. you splurge pretty much everything else. So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said" I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions? nah i got what I needed. What?! All this and you don’t even give us the juicy part where you develop a read on him? Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it? This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh. well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it. I shouldn't have to command you to do it. Oh wait! There’s more, almost like he wants to drag this out for as long as possible for no reason or somethin’! Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it? This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh. well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it. I shouldn't have to command you to do it. So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg. I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with. when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing. What new is said in this post over the last 1600 of them? Same words, but at least he’ll be polite and wait. Even though he’s actually just being passive aggressive. Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
just to speed this along
Farah is saying "you shouldn't have strong scum reads based on no interaction
not "you should have no scum reads"
moosy disagrees with you Farah
in general as a new who hasn't played in lots of games with moosy or anyone using meta from past games wont help you well. Reiterates Farah point. Pointless game advice. We do happen to have coaches this game for giving that. This is just too much. [b]##vote: KelsierSC
This is extremely bad. There is not a single thing that makes KSC scum in that. Seems to me that Eversince is mafia and jumping in the KSC's wagon as the third vote with shit reasons.
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On October 19 2015 17:57 Fecalfeast wrote:##vote vonthinHis filter is the worst out of all the filters. Runners up: scotty Lonemeow Eversince Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:(4) KelsierSC can't do this as town: On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.
The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"
Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion. I'd like you to elaborate on what makes this post so bad that KDC is scum for it please
Man you worry me. I was planning on saying nothing and call for your head at deadline if you didn't do shit until then. But since you're playing a liiiiiitle, you passed the "Is he really 100% scum ?" bar. Congratz! Your price, a friendly advice: continue to do stuff so I can evaluate you.
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Would lynch: scott / Moosy.
Would lynch, but less: Shining / Eversince / FF.
I'm pretty sure Moosy slipped in the KSC trap. Quotes coming soon.
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Actually these two KSC posts are exactly what I find unbelievable in this Moosy - Vonthin situation.
On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring. huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something. you splurge pretty much everything else. So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"
On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?
The second in particular. Moosy's first reaction to KSC's trap was that "Yes I reacted to Vonthin's list post, he put it down to null:
On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??
Then KSC brings up the fact that Moosy should have reacted to the Vonthing's list, since (1) he asked for it (2) their reads don't coincide and (3) Vonthing lists Moosy as scum. Moosy's story change to "Yes I reacted I put him back to null" to "I didn't really read his post yet":
On October 19 2015 03:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
-sigh-
I'm playing games right now kSC thank you very much. I already said I'm going to look at Vonthin LATER but not right now thank you very much. Unless you want me to dive into TL and drop what I'm doing at your command?
Three bullshit things:
First
He asked Vonthin for a list, and didn't react to it.
Second
His first explanation for not reacted was "Actually I reacted, I put Vonthin in the null category from town".
Then it changed to "Actually I didn't react because I didn't read his post properly yet".
Third
He still didn't comment on it, despite posting 6 hours after this whole situation.
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The third point is maybe as bad for him as the second actually. Moosy feels the need to defend against this "you didn't read Vonthin's post" thing. If he had said "I don't care for Vonthin's post", it would have been super illogical, but not scum motivated. At least not for Moosy. p:
But here he's saying "I just didn't have the time to do it", so he's implying it's something he needs to do; but he still didn't do it.
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On October 19 2015 19:59 boxerfred wrote:Moosy/scott interaction is also interesting because of this: Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring. This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here... On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else welp too late. ##Vote: GlowingBear And a shit early vote. Now he's spamming up the thread. I'm not caring for this play so far. GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it. I don't think this is a scum interaction. Moosy pushes me, scott nullifies that plus points out negative things in moosy's playstyle. So I don't think at all they are mafia together. Scott keeps it up: Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old. Pressure, questions, and then he drops it: Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old. I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB. Just was making sure - Thank you. To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense. I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread. And now he disappears. I mean I can see the things on scott but I can't imagine scum scott and scum moosy interacting in that way that early in the game, it just doesn't make sense. So I'd say we have scum in between moosy/scott but I wouldn't say both are scum. I townread kels and I clearly townread rels from what I see so i'm glad to help on that wagon. ##unvote ##vote scott12345
See the bolded above.
Where did scott defend you ? Or was that a type and you meant to type "GB" ?
I don't see how this makes that they can't be scum together. Maybe if scott defended you; but not with scott attacking a joke vote.
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On October 19 2015 20:13 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here... I think that's a soft defense or at least that's what I took it for. Also I'm not sure if that was a joke vote. Can be scum casting his vote at first opportunity before he gets nailed on a late wagon or something. I think that interaction is completely nuts if both are scum. Why would scum ever play this way? And I don't think md/scott are players that orchestrate such stuff in their qt.
He's talking about the "I always roll town" comment from Moosy, not the push on you.
If you're not sure it was a joke vote, you should reread. Because it was.
I see scums doing this very well. Doesn't mean it's orchastrated; scott sees a joke vote, attacks Moosy for it, asks for an explanation, and retract his scumread when Moosy explains it. Doesn't mean anything, but certainly doesn't prove Moosy and scott are not scums together.
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On October 19 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like I've already explained why I responded the way I did. I didn't read the thread properly so didn't want to give a proper answer before I evaluated things but Kels was a bum and kept pressing me to go into what I was doing in real life to explain why I wasn't re-evaluating things. That's basically it lol.
That's not what you first said though. You said and quoted and proved that you put Vonthin from townlean to null for his list post. Only after you said you didn't take the time to read his list post. So either you're changing your story, or you're saying you put Vonthin from townlean to null for a post you didn't read.
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On October 19 2015 22:22 sicklucker wrote:
ok on a reread maybe my eversince town read was a little early (that huge post I didnt read got me) but here was my thought. Everypost shes just picking a fight and getting into it. Most people dont do this as mafia they try to stand back and make friends. Some people dont do this like me but those people are more rare.
That is a fucking good point. Not sure if it applies to Eversince though, I will have to check. Because the only "fight" she really took was against KSC, who was only voted by several people, and who was being scumread by the thread sentiment. So at the time I feel it was an easy fight.
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On October 19 2015 22:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
sigh ofc Rels comes in and thinks he caught scum.
I admit that made me laugh. (=
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On October 19 2015 22:34 sicklucker wrote:
how anyone can scum read scott off his 3 posts is mind blogging
On October 18 2015 20:28 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old. I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB. Just was making sure - Thank you. REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT. Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else welp too late. ##Vote: GlowingBear And a shit early vote. Now he's spamming up the thread. I'm not caring for this play so far. Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.
On October 19 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:On October 19 2015 02:54 KelsierSC wrote:scott can you explain what you meant with this post On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old. I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB. Just was making sure - Thank you. To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense. I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread. I am unsure which part you mean so I'll break it all down. I wanted Moosy to explain his vote on GB, and he did so. I know all about the shit double bus very well. Loving how scott completely missed the accusation against him, which is him saying "just making sure - thank you" when he didn't show he thought the vote was a joke in the first place. Probably scum. ##Vote scott31337
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SL, why is Vonthin's list weak ?
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