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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 07 2015 22:47 GMT
#3861
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think I have a hard time objectively reevaluating things when I get into a certain mindset, and that hurt me with you and at the end with Vivax and BH.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 07 2015 22:55 GMT
#3862
On November 08 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:17 Chromatically wrote:
I would really love to hear any advice on how to improve after this game.

When you arrive in a LYLO where it is basically obvious from the start who is getting lynched you should be really really worried. The guy who was very wrong all game when his supposed teammates looked like shit the whole time is very rarely the mafia you are looking for.

Hmm yeah... Vivax seemed like classic mafia to me trying to avoid lynching his partners, but like Vivax said in the game mafia would have used their perfect information to their advantage when their partners looked so bad.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 07 2015 22:56 GMT
#3863
On November 08 2015 07:47 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think I have a hard time objectively reevaluating things when I get into a certain mindset, and that hurt me with you and at the end with Vivax and BH.


I didn't dislike your play, tho. I kept saying you were town. So there's that.

Another thing, but that's overall, is that I'm never putting all my partners in a "want to lynch" list and keep dismissing mislynches on day1. If people had scumread Onegu and Hopeless, this basically is a flag saying I'm probably not mafia with them.

I think that's all
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 07 2015 22:57 GMT
#3864
On November 08 2015 07:55 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:17 Chromatically wrote:
I would really love to hear any advice on how to improve after this game.

When you arrive in a LYLO where it is basically obvious from the start who is getting lynched you should be really really worried. The guy who was very wrong all game when his supposed teammates looked like shit the whole time is very rarely the mafia you are looking for.

Hmm yeah... Vivax seemed like classic mafia to me trying to avoid lynching his partners, but like Vivax said in the game mafia would have used their perfect information to their advantage when their partners looked so bad.


I've had a lot of problems with Vivax in this game. I can be dead wrong over nothing lol
I'm adorable.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 07 2015 23:16 GMT
#3865
I think we should take a moment and acknowledge that every single read marv had this game was wrong.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 07 2015 23:17 GMT
#3866
My 24k post is dedicated to marv being incredible bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 07 2015 23:21 GMT
#3867
Hmm, yeah, I didn't actually shoot Marv for scumreading me cause he hadn't come out and scumread me. probably a respect shot then, i thought he'd figure me out

rayn though, i shot him for scumreading me. If I'm scum and you scumread me or my teammtes typically you die.

I'm usually a super awful carry btw because despite my waning skill and influence I'm still almost always shot before LYLO as town so me being alive is super suspicious.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 07 2015 23:30 GMT
#3868
On November 08 2015 07:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:47 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think I have a hard time objectively reevaluating things when I get into a certain mindset, and that hurt me with you and at the end with Vivax and BH.


I didn't dislike your play, tho. I kept saying you were town. So there's that.

Another thing, but that's overall, is that I'm never putting all my partners in a "want to lynch" list and keep dismissing mislynches on day1. If people had scumread Onegu and Hopeless, this basically is a flag saying I'm probably not mafia with them.

I think that's all

Yep, I thought about that but brushed it off because I already felt confident, that was silly.

Looking at the mafia qt, I put way too much emphasis both on the shenannies and on Hopeless' D3 vote. I was thinking of those situations as either a bus or no bus when what really was going on was just BH pushing his scummy partners without really wanting them lynched.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 07 2015 23:31 GMT
#3869
I've been in this exact spot before, T _ T you'd think I'd learn.

whateves, I can always just blame Vivax for my own failings.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 07 2015 23:37 GMT
#3870
On November 08 2015 07:42 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:17 Chromatically wrote:
I would really love to hear any advice on how to improve after this game. I don't think I played very well at all (especially not on D1, that was so bad).

Sorry GB, hopefully I didn't ruin this game for you or anything :/

Thank you to the hosting staff, and to all the players! I enjoyed this game a lot (other than some of the D1 drama), and the all vanilla setup was cool.


Don't worry, a lot was my fault for not being invested in this game, and not being invested in this has nothing to do with you calling me mafia.

An advice I could make is that you were confirmation biased by the meta case. Like I've said before, sometimes you twisted the facts to fit them under your scum read on me instead of analysing them objectively. If there is a place to improve, it's in there.

I think my mistake was letting you die / : I was fairly sure you were town, if I could have convinced the others maybe we might have lynched vivax instead, which might have given us a chance, but not sure how we could have swayed chrom / : and I'm not sure I personally would have ever gotten out of bh's pocket T_T



Maybe

I can also understand thinking you could be wrong and voting with your townreads

To be honest I think the mistake you took this game was agreeing to let me die before hopeless or even onegu. You could've just stay on those if you had your scumread on us three. It didn't make much sense to me voting with your townreads when both the wagons were supposedly scum to everybody. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 07 2015 23:40 GMT
#3871
On November 08 2015 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:42 gumshoe wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:17 Chromatically wrote:
I would really love to hear any advice on how to improve after this game. I don't think I played very well at all (especially not on D1, that was so bad).

Sorry GB, hopefully I didn't ruin this game for you or anything :/

Thank you to the hosting staff, and to all the players! I enjoyed this game a lot (other than some of the D1 drama), and the all vanilla setup was cool.


Don't worry, a lot was my fault for not being invested in this game, and not being invested in this has nothing to do with you calling me mafia.

An advice I could make is that you were confirmation biased by the meta case. Like I've said before, sometimes you twisted the facts to fit them under your scum read on me instead of analysing them objectively. If there is a place to improve, it's in there.

I think my mistake was letting you die / : I was fairly sure you were town, if I could have convinced the others maybe we might have lynched vivax instead, which might have given us a chance, but not sure how we could have swayed chrom / : and I'm not sure I personally would have ever gotten out of bh's pocket T_T



Maybe

I can also understand thinking you could be wrong and voting with your townreads

To be honest I think the mistake you took this game was agreeing to let me die before hopeless or even onegu. You could've just stay on those if you had your scumread on us three. It didn't make much sense to me voting with your townreads when both the wagons were supposedly scum to everybody. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?


wouldnt matter, I needed to prevent you from dying ever, if your on the chopping block doesnt matter when it'll happen, it'll happen. You had to be saved / : that's just one obvious thing I needed to do.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 08 2015 03:20 GMT
#3872
On November 08 2015 08:40 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:42 gumshoe wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:17 Chromatically wrote:
I would really love to hear any advice on how to improve after this game. I don't think I played very well at all (especially not on D1, that was so bad).

Sorry GB, hopefully I didn't ruin this game for you or anything :/

Thank you to the hosting staff, and to all the players! I enjoyed this game a lot (other than some of the D1 drama), and the all vanilla setup was cool.


Don't worry, a lot was my fault for not being invested in this game, and not being invested in this has nothing to do with you calling me mafia.

An advice I could make is that you were confirmation biased by the meta case. Like I've said before, sometimes you twisted the facts to fit them under your scum read on me instead of analysing them objectively. If there is a place to improve, it's in there.

I think my mistake was letting you die / : I was fairly sure you were town, if I could have convinced the others maybe we might have lynched vivax instead, which might have given us a chance, but not sure how we could have swayed chrom / : and I'm not sure I personally would have ever gotten out of bh's pocket T_T



Maybe

I can also understand thinking you could be wrong and voting with your townreads

To be honest I think the mistake you took this game was agreeing to let me die before hopeless or even onegu. You could've just stay on those if you had your scumread on us three. It didn't make much sense to me voting with your townreads when both the wagons were supposedly scum to everybody. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?


wouldnt matter, I needed to prevent you from dying ever, if your on the chopping block doesnt matter when it'll happen, it'll happen. You had to be saved / : that's just one obvious thing I needed to do.


It was ok, and BH has also the merit of playing a very good scum game. Don't overthink this. I liked to play with both you and Chrom
I'm adorable.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 08 2015 03:58 GMT
#3873
Ugh I keep thinking about this game... I feel like I learned something from this but I'm not sure if I would be able to apply it correctly and play better in an actual game. I guess that's why I should play more though!
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 08 2015 06:24 GMT
#3874
Scum won just as I said they would. Shocker.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 08 2015 11:18 GMT
#3875
On November 08 2015 15:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Scum won just as I said they would. Shocker.

Oh god, mafia won a very close game on the final possible day. Must be an imbalanced setup. DP has proven me wrong.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
November 08 2015 11:41 GMT
#3876
On October 28 2015 07:30 Blazinghand wrote:
I can't imagine any reason to silence rayn, except perhaps to make town operate a bit more smoothly on its current path


xd
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 08 2015 12:14 GMT
#3877
I think mafia shouldn't be allowed to hold their shoot in this game but otherwise I still think that it was pretty balanced.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 08 2015 15:49 GMT
#3878
On November 08 2015 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:
I think mafia shouldn't be allowed to hold their shoot in this game but otherwise I still think that it was pretty balanced.

+1
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 17:25:19
November 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#3879
On November 08 2015 08:16 Koshi wrote:
I think we should take a moment and acknowledge that every single read marv had this game was wrong.

sure my bottom 3 on d1 was quite quite wrong

but town still lynched 2 of my top group of townies, all of whom were town

*shrug*

well played BH

edit: seems i get a blindspot when people scumread people i think should be clearly town. GB on Vivax, Chrome on Xatalos, to a lesser extent Slam on rayn. hmmz.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 08 2015 20:35 GMT
#3880
On November 09 2015 02:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 08:16 Koshi wrote:
I think we should take a moment and acknowledge that every single read marv had this game was wrong.

sure my bottom 3 on d1 was quite quite wrong

but town still lynched 2 of my top group of townies, all of whom were town

*shrug*

well played BH

edit: seems i get a blindspot when people scumread people i think should be clearly town. GB on Vivax, Chrome on Xatalos, to a lesser extent Slam on rayn. hmmz.


I'm pretty sure you would end up town reading me at some point, tho
I'm adorable.
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