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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
October 29 2015 21:49 GMT
#3101
Give me a few sunglasses I'm gonna open Xata's filter for the first time in this game
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:49 GMT
#3102
On October 30 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 06:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 30 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 30 2015 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 30 2015 06:37 Xatalos wrote:
On October 30 2015 06:32 GlowingBear wrote:
PLEASE READ

~ If ONEGU is MAFIA

Then gumshoe is 100% mafia.

1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?

This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.

The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.

2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.

WITH. AN. UNVOTE.

Let me tell you again.

His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?

3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?

4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.

There is no way gumshoe isn't mafia with Onegu.

But in the case he is...


~ If ONEGU is TOWN

Then gumshoe is 100% town because there is no way he does all these scummy things with both wagons being town.


Well if gumshoe ends up being scum, he really deserves a nomination for best plays of 2015 and the win :D


Don't pay attention to this but if 1G flips scum: GB and 1G are scum and Gummie is town, GB trying to cast suspicion on Gummie for some reaosn

Of course this is all unflipped association that should not be paid attention to


The problem is: I'm talking about flipped association. Care to read what I asked you to read?
Point out what is wrong on what I've brought.


yeah yeah chill out bro we're lynching 1G today anyways. Almost certainly he's gonna flip scum, and then you're gonna make some kind of asslike push on Gumshoe in an attempt to "look townie", then we lynch you and H1 and win the game


No, I want you to comment my case in details. Stop dismissing it.


Your case is dumb cause gumshoe is town.


"1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?

This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.

The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.


Gumshoe townreading you at the start of the game and scumreading you now isn't strange; I did the same thing. You're scum, you jsut weren't obvious scum during the start.



2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.

WITH. AN. UNVOTE.

Let me tell you again.

His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?


I did osmething similar about rayn (I guess) when he was raging, it made sense to me to vote him, then I unvote. I think I voted someone else later, but being surprised by something is reason enough to unvote.


3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?


yeah dude he's also scumreading Onegu so I don't see the issue here


4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.


And now onegu is getting lynched, so what's the issue
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 29 2015 21:49 GMT
#3103
Alright I am here.

So tell me why I am scum this game?

My day 1 vote? Nope I already proved I do this as town so at best it is NAI.

My day 2 vote? Nope I tried to get you guys to lynch sucm in Hopeless. Had 3 people ready to move but it wasnt enough. Who cares if I was off wagon.

Todays vote? You say I am wasting it. Well I am sick and wanted you to lynch scum in hopeless. Now I am here.

What else you got? Nothing because I am not scum I am town and you are putting yourselves in lylo.

Gumshoe no fucking way do I kill Rayn. I am going to be a lynch target no matter if rayn is in the game or not. Rayn town read me and wouldnt vote for me. You calling wifom because I could do it to make people town read me? Nope doesnt work that way I am not killing the only hope I have to not be lynched.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:49 GMT
#3104
On October 30 2015 06:46 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna be pissed if 1gu flips town.

At BH and ritoky mostly.


Oh come on dude, he's gonna flip scum. AND HYPOTHETICALLY Even if he did flip town could we reallya fford NOT to lycnh him
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:50 GMT
#3105
On October 30 2015 06:49 Onegu wrote:
Alright I am here.

So tell me why I am scum this game?

My day 1 vote? Nope I already proved I do this as town so at best it is NAI.

My day 2 vote? Nope I tried to get you guys to lynch sucm in Hopeless. Had 3 people ready to move but it wasnt enough. Who cares if I was off wagon.

Todays vote? You say I am wasting it. Well I am sick and wanted you to lynch scum in hopeless. Now I am here.

What else you got? Nothing because I am not scum I am town and you are putting yourselves in lylo.

Gumshoe no fucking way do I kill Rayn. I am going to be a lynch target no matter if rayn is in the game or not. Rayn town read me and wouldnt vote for me. You calling wifom because I could do it to make people town read me? Nope doesnt work that way I am not killing the only hope I have to not be lynched.



haha did you really come back like 10 minutes before deadline with your vote on H1 to defend yourself? are you serious? at least vote your scumbuddy GB
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 29 2015 21:50 GMT
#3106
it's pretty funny how people start playing right before they're about to be lynched
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
October 29 2015 21:50 GMT
#3107
Xata get your vote on GB PLEASE
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:51 GMT
#3108
On October 30 2015 06:50 Chromatically wrote:
it's pretty funny how people start playing right before they're about to be lynched


Yeah, this doesn't really make me feel better about the 1G lynch (or worse, either)... just amused. dude shoulda played the game. Now he's getting what's coming to him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 29 2015 21:51 GMT
#3109
Heh yeah I think we're far more screwed if we lynch GB and he flips town than the other way around... Since GB at least follows some sort of logic with his votes
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 29 2015 21:51 GMT
#3110
On October 30 2015 06:50 Vivax wrote:
Xata get your vote on GB PLEASE


Hm?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 29 2015 21:51 GMT
#3111
I'd feel better about a GB lynch though, that's like a sure thing... sigh...
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 29 2015 21:52 GMT
#3112
Ritoky why are you voting your town read over your scum read.

You know 100% scum onegu doesnt kill town rayn. It doesnt happen.

Xata its really LOL what you wrote about lylo. I just told you I figure shit out and win with logic in lylo.

I was mislynched once in lylo and that was because LS fucked up and voted a null read of his over a scum read which broke a tie lynching me over a red checked HF and he said that was a mistake.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:52 GMT
#3113
I mean that post is a LITTLE BIT townie, but Onegu isn't even playing. STAY THE COURSE. DONT BE SWAYED BY HIS SEDUCTION

actually what do I care? lynch GB if you want. fuck it!

Been there, done that.. aw fuck it...
What am I sayin? Shoot em both Grady, where's your gun at
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:53 GMT
#3114
seriously though there's nothing wrong with the 1G lynch. ITS FINE. ITS TOTALLY FINE. THE LACK OF RESISTANCE IS FINE.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 29 2015 21:53 GMT
#3115
On October 30 2015 06:50 Chromatically wrote:
it's pretty funny how people start playing right before they're about to be lynched



Im sick. I am town. I came back 10 min before lynch.

Anyway lynch Xata and hopeless after me.

Try TL Mafia!!!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:53 GMT
#3116
On October 30 2015 06:53 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 06:50 Chromatically wrote:
it's pretty funny how people start playing right before they're about to be lynched



Im sick. I am town. I came back 10 min before lynch.

Anyway lynch Xata and hopeless after me.



Look at this kid. why not GB? what makes GB, town, 1G?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#3117
On October 30 2015 06:53 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 06:50 Chromatically wrote:
it's pretty funny how people start playing right before they're about to be lynched



Im sick. I am town. I came back 10 min before lynch.

Anyway lynch Xata and hopeless after me.



......And that's supposed to convince me? just lol
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#3118
You guys cant even tell me why I am scum..

BH why am I scum?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#3119
On October 30 2015 06:54 Onegu wrote:
You guys cant even tell me why I am scum..

BH why am I scum?


YOU'RE NOT PLAYING THE GAME

YOU ARE NOT

PLAYING

THE GAME
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#3120
On October 30 2015 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 06:40 gumshoe wrote:
On October 30 2015 06:32 GlowingBear wrote:
PLEASE READ

~ If ONEGU is MAFIA

Then gumshoe is 100% mafia.

1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?

This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.

The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.

2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.

WITH. AN. UNVOTE.

Let me tell you again.

His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?

3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?

4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.

There is no way gumshoe isn't mafia with Onegu.

But in the case he is...


~ If ONEGU is TOWN

Then gumshoe is 100% town because there is no way he does all these scummy things with both wagons being town.


lord save me from these godamm, not even townies, carnies.

1: I AM TRYING TO KILL ONEGU RIGHT THIS INSTANCE. chill out brah.

2: Big part of my read on you was my scum read on yam / : once that didnt pan out I had to reconsider, thats the nature of reading someone one way cause you read someone else another.

3: I still kinda town read you (never put you above 50 percent scum honestly) its just your the only person I am willing to spend our one remaining mislynch on(gone into this indepth already but everyone else except one dude outside the 3 is super townie). Your basically mah sacrificial lamb

speaking of which, howd you get out of the pen?


2 is not true because i've especifically asked you this and you said it would clear me TO THE OTHERS.

I'm gonna find the post.

3 why would you risk mislynching me WHEN YOU COULD BE LYNCHING YOUR SCUMREAD? Lol so you can risk mislynching me but you can't risk mislynching a player who isn't playing at all?

Haha you're full of shit. I'll only talk to you again if I live and Onegu dies.


cause if im right it doesnt matter if you live or die. I didnt really care about this lynch, unless one of my super duper town reads are wrong, then the next 4 days SHOULD be auto pilot. At one point I actually did kinda pref your lynch cause it would undivide town, and your reasoning was super duper wifomy and bads. It offended my sensibility's.



But I didnt really care honestly / : I started to once the possibility arose that onegu might never be lynched if Ritoky goes after xata or something and you flip town.

Does that make me a bit cold and douchy? yes, scum? Not really.

The funny things is? I do kinda still think your town and we might even agree on a certain someone. I am just a jerk, ok? A jerk, I use you for my own agendas (mah yamato scum read, now this onegu insurance) and I am totally willing to discard you the moment your not useful to me, but that doesnt make me scum : P
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