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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 26 2015 22:09 GMT
#2461
On October 27 2015 07:05 ritoky wrote:
xata, gumdrop, vivax. 2 sentences on why you didn't shennanie; go!


I'd be interested to hear this btw given that Yam was being modkilled and had not returned to the thread. were you guys strongrly TRing GB, for example?

On October 27 2015 07:07 ritoky wrote:
if gb flips mafia, 1 of vivax, xata, and gumdrop is mafia 100% of the time.


I like the basic concept, but don't draw associative tells between unflipped players. IF you think GB is scum, focus on explaining why he is scum first.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 22:10 GMT
#2462
damm that sucks, sorry guys I was wrong ) : but seriously, go fuck yourself Rayn

be back later tonight T_T
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2015 22:11 GMT
#2463
i mean, didn't me and chrom do that all fucking day long? not much else to say beyond what has been said.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 22:12 GMT
#2464
My reasoning was that if Yam flips scum, then Gb is town, cause yam made a straight up kill play on Gb early on, so I was hoping to kill Yam and prove Gb's innocence that way.

woulda rather shenayneed onto hopeless or onegu but was too late to make that happen.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 26 2015 22:13 GMT
#2465
On October 27 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote:
i mean, didn't me and chrom do that all fucking day long? not much else to say beyond what has been said.


Ah, sorry, didn't mean

to imply you didn't push GB, just making a statement in general about associate tells between unflipped players
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 22:14 GMT
#2466
Yeah I would have most likely joined on Onegu or even Hopeless at the last seconds
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 22:16 GMT
#2467
Tbh I really dislike rayn's extreme stances like "marv is getting shot tonight", "yamato is town"... I mean, he was right, but he was completely certain about things only scum would be.... If you get what I mean. As town there should be a slight doubt at least.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 26 2015 22:16 GMT
#2468
On October 27 2015 07:14 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah I would have most likely joined on Onegu or even Hopeless at the last seconds


AH MAN I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN

ok, tomrrow if I live when we are shenannying it will be one HUNDO percent clear what's going on
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 22:17 GMT
#2469
On October 27 2015 07:12 gumshoe wrote:
My reasoning was that if Yam flips scum, then Gb is town, cause yam made a straight up kill play on Gb early on, so I was hoping to kill Yam and prove Gb's innocence that way.

woulda rather shenayneed onto hopeless or onegu but was too late to make that happen.


^ yeah
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2015 22:17 GMT
#2470
to summarize it quickly before i go:

- no read on me even though he has played with me a bunch and can read me (claims can't){for ex. he has been mafia with me before and he knows how much i like the bus, i was expecting a no bus d1 = no mafia read out of him and i didn't get it}

- self centric defensive play d1 - lots of talking about self and no real pro-active scum hunting

- not GB town - isn't astounded he isn't being read town, hasn't freaked out, lacking charisma, low effort/caring level, and not plays attempted.

- terrible defense - "i am town, push to vote"

- 0 attempt to push his targets with any form of conviction. lots of caveats in the few reads given.

if you find that town gb indicative then thumbs up to you, i don't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#2471
so you guys wanted to lynch yamato because "it would prove GB town"?

table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 22:21 GMT
#2472
On October 27 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you guys wanted to lynch yamato because "it would prove GB town"?



Well it didn't work, but there was a good chance it could have. At least an obstacle is out of the way. This also means that GB is more likely scum than before which is useful information.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 22:29 GMT
#2473
holy fuck i thought we were playing on TL, i guess i was wrong.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 22:53 GMT
#2474
On October 27 2015 07:17 ritoky wrote:
to summarize it quickly before i go:

- no read on me even though he has played with me a bunch and can read me (claims can't){for ex. he has been mafia with me before and he knows how much i like the bus, i was expecting a no bus d1 = no mafia read out of him and i didn't get it}

- self centric defensive play d1 - lots of talking about self and no real pro-active scum hunting

- not GB town - isn't astounded he isn't being read town, hasn't freaked out, lacking charisma, low effort/caring level, and not plays attempted.

- terrible defense - "i am town, push to vote"

- 0 attempt to push his targets with any form of conviction. lots of caveats in the few reads given.

if you find that town gb indicative then thumbs up to you, i don't.

D3 is the bus day.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 22:59 GMT
#2475
I mean like the case is much better to be made on N2 that it would be on D2 don't you think ritoky?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 23:03 GMT
#2476
On October 27 2015 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
ok, tomrrow if I live when we are shenannying it will be one HUNDO percent clear what's going on

don't worry you will not get shot.
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2015 23:10 GMT
#2477
On October 27 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like the case is much better to be made on N2 that it would be on D2 don't you think ritoky?


i made it multiple times on d2 while you were not playing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 23:16 GMT
#2478
On October 27 2015 08:10 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like the case is much better to be made on N2 that it would be on D2 don't you think ritoky?


i made it multiple times on d2 while you were not playing.

could you point out the posts where you made the case since i must have missed it while reading.
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2015 23:20 GMT
#2479
On October 27 2015 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 08:10 ritoky wrote:
On October 27 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like the case is much better to be made on N2 that it would be on D2 don't you think ritoky?


i made it multiple times on d2 while you were not playing.

could you point out the posts where you made the case since i must have missed it while reading.


On October 24 2015 18:24 ritoky wrote:
if i were the sole vote to lynch tomorrow, as of now it would be between yamato, rayn, and GB.

rayn cuz i am basically not reading what he types and his reads sucked.
yamato cuz he is hovering around the fringes of the game, or maybe that's just my perception.
GB cuz i have played a lot with him and he has no strong opinion on me, and actually i would say he seems to be actively avoiding talking about me; i feel he should have a stronger opinion. he is top disappointment atm.

if i were in magical vigi land i would probably shoot onegu cuz yolo free info.


On October 25 2015 08:54 ritoky wrote:
well i gotta get ready for work soon. people should push on the following people for the following reasons:

yamato - eating around the edges of the game like a man who only likes crust, not sexy.

rayn - bad reads, outrage over something he shouldn't be outraged about and makes no sense.

hopeless - literal 0 idea what he believes other than rayn is town. has 3 reads entire game even though tons of questions. questions that don't lead to conclusions usually = mafia.

gb - avoiding me. underwhelming. self-focused. lot's of talking about himself and people's reads on him rather than pro-active play. also he has played with me enough to where i expected a read out of him along the lines of "ritoky is town cuz feelz" or "ritoky doesn't have target, is not bussing therefore not mafia"; no delivery = no tip.

i am pretty confident me, chroma, and gumdrop are all town fttb. vivax slightly less, but not concerned enough yet.


On October 26 2015 05:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me.

But I'm not scum.


reading but not trying to find scum.


On October 26 2015 06:04 ritoky wrote:
i mean it's the best case in the thread, i agree with it, and for some reason it is way hard to get people to vote on GB even though i think 75% of the thread has called him mafia at some point. these are good signs. also he read it and a lot of other things then did nothing. also he was super excited pre-game to play with me and then avoids me. i am a little butthurt about it.


On October 27 2015 05:37 ritoky wrote:
cuz it struck me as odd. the guy has a scum read he has said he is over 90% confident in, he made probably the best case of the phase to try and compell people to vote on him; and it hasn't gotten traction. he keeps pushing it trying to get his top read killed....i guess what you said isn't odd in the context of "can you get out of your tunnel and talk about other stuff?" but idk, it just stuck out to me cuz i don't see a compelling reason to read GB town, i like chrom's case, GB's defense is "i am town, push to vote" which is crap tier; so calling out someone for really assertively trying to get him lynched doesn't seem.....i dunno it was just a wat? moment
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 26 2015 23:21 GMT
#2480
there's a couple more, but i figured that was long enough of a post.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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