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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 10:46 GMT
#141
Here's the current nicknames list if you're interested: https://github.com/Xatalos/mafia-votecount/blob/master/resources/public/js/nicknames.js

I've played my couple of last games on Vendetta Strada. Last time I played here... Was this one I think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia

Yeah I agree that Slam is feeling very carefree/relaxed. Which usually leans towards town...

How did you come to that townread list btw?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2015 10:49 GMT
#142
Xatalos replies:

Koshi, there is a chance if we lynch mafia today, 3p will kill the other mafia and mafia will kill the 3p and we win the game N1


Koshi replies to the Xatalos reply:
+ Show Spoiler +
hahahahaha, sure buddy
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 10:51 GMT
#143
Well I agree it's pretty random and there's not much snowballing in the setup. In a sense, the anti-towns should focus on killing each other unless town is playing perfectly.

Hm. I guess I can understand your point of view. It's a little bit too elaborate to be a fake frustration?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2015 10:53 GMT
#144
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION for people who can't read between lines.

It would be pretty cool to lynch anti-town. But playing on D1 random and not rewarding. There is a chance this game will become interesting D2. D1 it is pure shit. D2 has a 50% chance to still be shit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 10:54 GMT
#145
Still, basically there's never a reason not to play as town. Only scum(/anti-town) benefits from a silent thread. And it even makes the game MORE random since there's less to work with.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 10:55 GMT
#146
Could you explain your vote btw? lol
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 13 2015 10:58 GMT
#147
I clicked myself and deleted myself.
Minimal effort.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2015 11:00 GMT
#148
Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing.

Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start.

Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame.

I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right.
I had a good night of sleep.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 13 2015 11:00 GMT
#149
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.
Minimal effort.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2015 11:05 GMT
#150
On October 13 2015 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
Still, basically there's never a reason not to play as town. Only scum(/anti-town) benefits from a silent thread. And it even makes the game MORE random since there's less to work with.

There will always be hardtryers. 15 page thread is as valuable in this game as a 150 page thread.
15 pages are probably better.
Please stop spamming.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 11:05 GMT
#151
On October 13 2015 20:00 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.


Yea, I have no idea what your doing this game...
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 11:06 GMT
#152
On October 13 2015 20:00 Koshi wrote:
Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing.

Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start.

Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame.

I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right.


I got the opposite picture? He didn't really do anything, but he seemed pretty relaxed despite your attack (not defensive / worried). And I think Mafia very rarely just "forget they need to pretend to look town". Rather, it's much more likely that Mafia do something at least resembling an okayish starter while townies often just explode.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 11:08 GMT
#153
Well, it's still mainly a gut feeling from the way he responded "humorously". I've done that before as town many times when I'm accused early on.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 11:09 GMT
#154
##Vote: Sylencia
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 13 2015 11:10 GMT
#155
On October 13 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:00 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.


Yea, I have no idea what your doing this game...


Making a post. But please, elaborate on this.
Minimal effort.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 11:10 GMT
#156
On October 13 2015 19:58 Superbia wrote:
I clicked myself and deleted myself.


Haha, looks like you added yourself back in
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 11:11 GMT
#157
So Koshi, what I dont understand is you start off saying you want to plynch all liars, then jump on moosey for being, what "too casual" in the first 20 posts of the game?

Just seems like a silly vote to defend while also saying it's useless to try.
I can take that responsibility.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 11:12 GMT
#158
On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote: Sylencia


Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 11:12 GMT
#159
On October 13 2015 20:10 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:00 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.


Yea, I have no idea what your doing this game...


Making a post. But please, elaborate on this.


Do I need to? Seems better to wait for this post.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 13 2015 11:15 GMT
#160
Actually not going to post my post. Had a nice little theory written up about how I think both mafia and third party will play this game. Going to post it later (mayb n1) after people have "played". ;p
Minimal effort.
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