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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:03 GMT
#401
On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
Sylencia
Superbia

These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR.


You think cop cake is town?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:05 GMT
#402
On October 14 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
yeah. True. So they will probably protect each other. w.e
This game is truly wtf.

4 mafia with 2 kp

Why the fuck bother.


Mechanics are actually pretty neat. Read the roles and you'll see the clusterfuck night kills will be.

To be honest roles and mechanics can cause different behaviours that we are used to

Nope. The game is not rewarding at all for town. While mafia and 3p only get rewarded if they survive and never punished for following their wincon.

If town lynches anti town each day they can still lose. CPR is a shitty role, should have been a cop that couldn't be protected by the town medic.


I wouldn't call a vigilante with unlimited bullets that can kill scum/save a townie on LYLO a bad role.
I'm adorable.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:09 GMT
#403
On October 14 2015 09:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
yeah. True. So they will probably protect each other. w.e
This game is truly wtf.

4 mafia with 2 kp

Why the fuck bother.


Mechanics are actually pretty neat. Read the roles and you'll see the clusterfuck night kills will be.

To be honest roles and mechanics can cause different behaviours that we are used to

Nope. The game is not rewarding at all for town. While mafia and 3p only get rewarded if they survive and never punished for following their wincon.

If town lynches anti town each day they can still lose. CPR is a shitty role, should have been a cop that couldn't be protected by the town medic.


I wouldn't call a vigilante with unlimited bullets that can kill scum/save a townie on LYLO a bad role.

Yes it is a bad role because it is rolling the dice every night. if it is 3 vs 1 in the night he can actually end the game by using his power, he would be retarded to use it. 2 vs 1 in the night he gives town a 50/50 chance to play the "who is the real cpr on lylo". Currently he is just a vigi with the offchance he saves an dubious figure. Seriously, if cpr actually heals a confirmed townie during the night he is fucking 100% retarded. No excuses.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:10 GMT
#404
On October 14 2015 09:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
Sylencia
Superbia

These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR.


You think cop cake is town?

Yes.
I had a good night of sleep.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:14 GMT
#405
On October 14 2015 09:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
Sylencia
Superbia

These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR.


You think cop cake is town?

Yes.


What makes you think so? I see her as likely scum
I'm adorable.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:16 GMT
#406
Just a silly game if D2 can start with 5 townies, 2 mafia and 2 3p. It doesn't even necessarily means town played bad and they are 5 vs 4 with 2 kp on 4.

This game is not rewarding to town at all. Never will be. Town will never be rewarded for good play. Town is at the mercy of rng gods and the failure of the kp used by anti town.

Both anti town parties can be rewarded for good play.



It is surreal to believe town will lynch anti town, cpr anti town and in the mean time anti town shoots anti town. Mafia is build around the fact townies should be townie and mafia should act like townies. In this game being really townie just gives the people using kp more information to plan out there game. And they hold all the cards.

Seriously. Being town on D1 is not rewarding. Might be if crazy shit happens during night. But we are at mercy of anti town. Which is not what this game is all about.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:18 GMT
#407
On October 14 2015 09:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 14 2015 09:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
Sylencia
Superbia

These 3. Good start to lynch and CPR.


You think cop cake is town?

Yes.


What makes you think so? I see her as likely scum

She is doing shit. I have no experience with her. Maybe she is better normally but I don't have that information. But at this point I don't see why she is mafia. There is no reason. Yelling some random shit that actually has something to do with the game is fine. I got stranger players to worry about.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:21 GMT
#408
3 page filter. I am out. Jeezus 2 am again.
afk till deadline tomorrow and I will probably pass on staying awake. 2 am atm and I got a shitton of work.
Going to need a good night of sleep tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:22 GMT
#409
anti town can just pretend to scumhunt the other anti town party. This is so fucking silly tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:27 GMT
#410
I actually cannot use the fact somebody scumhunts as a reason for this person to be town. So when is somebody mafia in this game? They only need to protect 1 other player. What a game.

With 17 vs 5 you can kill useless town / maybe mafia D1. N1 get blues to work, get information maybe start lynching mafia and find connetions. What is there here? Really? It's just a bunch of fucking kp colliding and maybe in lylo you might get lucky?



Like I am not seeing the greatness of this mafia game.



I can still spam the thread and pretend to look for scum though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:31 GMT
#411
Nha. It is useless. I don't see it. A game can still be fun due to the randomness and for casual fanatics. I ll remove the game from my subscribed list and read some night posts / day posts and see that I don't get modkilled.
I had a good night of sleep.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 14 2015 00:32 GMT
#412
GB is defo mafia because he knows how i am as mafia, we were mafia together not long ago so yeah GG

DIE YOU NOT SHINY GLOWING BEAR, YOU ARE FAKE,

#glowingbear
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:42 GMT
#413
On October 14 2015 09:22 Koshi wrote:
anti town can just pretend to scumhunt the other anti town party. This is so fucking silly tbh.

It's not even pretending. Their actual goal during dayphase is to lynch anti town. The fact that they need to make a fake "you are mafia" case on somebody they know isn't is completely removed.


Literally 13 people in this thread are looking for people who are not town. 4 people in this thread know the alignment of 1 other guy they can ignore for the most part.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:43 GMT
#414
In theory. You must be mad to be town and actually bother.

I figured that one out pretty fast.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2015 00:43 GMT
#415
gg
I had a good night of sleep.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 00:50 GMT
#416
On October 14 2015 08:43 Koshi wrote:
Can you explain that Sylencia? What is he afraid of?


Town = Maf/3p are out to get you
Maf = 3p are out to get you
3p = Maf are out to get you

If you are town there is no reason to ignore the presence of the 3p team.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:54 GMT
#417
On October 14 2015 09:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:22 Koshi wrote:
anti town can just pretend to scumhunt the other anti town party. This is so fucking silly tbh.

It's not even pretending. Their actual goal during dayphase is to lynch anti town. The fact that they need to make a fake "you are mafia" case on somebody they know isn't is completely removed.


Literally 13 people in this thread are looking for people who are not town. 4 people in this thread know the alignment of 1 other guy they can ignore for the most part.


Koshi, but if you're scum you know you must survive and if you drive a lynch on someone who is an opposing faction you might get shot at night. So what do you do? You just lay back and vote with thread sentiment.

This is how scum hunting in this game differs from other games. And this is exactly what you wanted to do. Thus, my vote on you.

I think you're complaining too much about the setup without actually thinking about it. Makes me wonder if you're not simply scum trying to waste discussion or just douchebag town
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 00:59 GMT
#418
On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia

I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT).

Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way.


BWAHAHA I just got back to page 7 to read stuff with more focus and saw this.

So Xata already caught on that and said it out loud. LOL.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 01:05 GMT
#419
On October 13 2015 20:15 Superbia wrote:
Actually not going to post my post. Had a nice little theory written up about how I think both mafia and third party will play this game. Going to post it later (mayb n1) after people have "played". ;p


This makes me think Superbia is town
I'm adorable.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 01:08 GMT
#420
Also pretty sure unless town plays catastrophically bad, we have a pretty good shot of winning considering 3p is almost half a team, mafia team is stronger but is balanced by only having 2 people and in addition maf/3p can end up killing each other anyways. If the parity cop miraculously survives to D3 then that single comparison check should be good enough to carry us through the rest of the game.

tl;dr 9:2:2 is still fine even if it goes down to like 3:2:2 w/ 1+ power role after 2 days
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