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On September 25 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote: Mage <3 I'll have to have a chat with you - you should play one of the upcoming games provided your schedule isn't complete shit. Where are your travels taking you GB? Holiday I take it? Or did you finish school? I'm visiting this very unknown and ugly country called Italy  It's fucking beautiful in here And none of the above, I'm skipping classes | ||
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On September 25 2015 07:52 scott31337 wrote: Play with tunnelbear? Hmm Feelzgud! | ||
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On September 27 2015 01:53 scott31337 wrote: Well I did for like two reasons girl giving me too much junk on the weekends playing mafia so skips this weekend I dont like day 1s Don't you like me? :/ I can't give you sex but I can give you true love | ||
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On September 27 2015 17:02 sicklucker wrote: my town game is sick tho You're sick | ||
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On September 28 2015 02:07 NocturneMage wrote: Alright then if he's okay with it, I'll be entertained by sicklucker, whatever his alignment. This should be interesting. Are... Are you sure? Is this starting today? | ||
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Nocturne Mage, just fucking /in You too scott | ||
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On September 28 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote: Someone in and tunnel gb with me Damdy come on :/ | ||
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On September 28 2015 09:26 Damdred wrote: Idk what to do with my fair and balanced view to policy shining or tunnel gb. You can also tone read rsoultin wrongly | ||
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On September 29 2015 00:15 marvellosity wrote: who even are all you people? Hello, I'm GlowingBear | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:05 Rels wrote: GL HF guys (= see you tomorrow! I can sleep quitely knowing there is no IML stuff in this game p: Isn't it starting in 45 minutes? You Europeans sleep too early | ||
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Oh no... I just want to play... | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:15 Rels wrote: man I climbed a fucking mountain with a bike yesterday p: And I'm pretty sure it starts in 1h45 Tour de France?  | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:47 NocturneMage wrote: 2300 BST is when the game starts, from her prior posts, she will roll people and give out role PMs in about 45 minutes. sounds like some of you are suffering from mafia deprivation/withdrawal. It's almost eleven here, I'm not used to different time zones :/ I'm just bored in Milan I think. Meh | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:52 Trfel wrote: I can't decide if I should post random fluff now or save it for later so I can get townread I feel I will tunnel you in this game I feel it I can feel it | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:55 Trfel wrote: But then I'll probably end up skipping class to defend myself, and that really wouldn't be good  Skipping classes proved to be very good to my health | ||
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On September 29 2015 05:56 NocturneMage wrote: so game starts at midnight for you. and you're in Milan? nice. my family is from just outside there. what were the highlights of your trip? and how are you bored now? Duomo and Castello are amazing. Park sempione is also very good to spend the day. But I think the highest point was Duomo. God that place is beautiful. But it's kinda cold and things close up kinda early today. I don't think it's a city made for party hard Edit: is your family from Como? I heard it's a nice place to visit | ||
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On September 29 2015 06:05 NocturneMage wrote: it is, but they are between bollate and dugnano. smaller towns just north of milan. glad you enjoyed duomo though, it is. how much longer are you staying? Not much, I'm going to visit the Tuscany region tomorrow | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote: TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched! Jesus I already want to kynch you LS :/ | ||
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O hai! I'm town | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote: TLDR: yada yada music yada not posting cause music yada yada Marry me | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote: Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below. Requirements: A good person to team up with Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy Must not ignore my posts or talk over me must have a good voice and be funny and like walks Please apply for my townfriend Where do I sign? | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: i have a good voice, maybe? i might be funny. i enjoy walks. enough? Rayn who is with you in your scum qt? | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote: i see you bby you know it me and my third eye of amaze. or am i wrong and you're not being the gb acolyte, just trying to imitate the finer whiskies? (is that how you spell they plural for whisky? o.0) He is not my acolyte, he is my successor | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote: Scum qt contains shining and gb | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest..... Ok I have a couple of terrible town reads | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote: Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now..... But I can't decide if I should push or wait..... No, keep pushing, you have my bow | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote sicklucker goodnight Hi rayn! You look scummy Let's talk | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:32 Damdred wrote: Its a strange feeling inside. When GB doesn't instantly scum read me I know right? It's like I'm not even in the game!! | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:33 Trfel wrote: Damdred, why wasn't being town one of the requirements for being your buddy? What kind of answer were you expecting when you asked this? | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:34 Damdred wrote: Because anyone who isn't town would be scared to be associated with me duh This doesn't make sense damdy. Why would msfia be afraid to be aligned with a townie UNLESS you're mafia? | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote: Do you have a read on rsoultin? No clue, but I was hoping that it would be useful. Ok so what do you make out of his answer? | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote: People just don't get me. If I have to be serious its implied that it has to be town since its called a town friend. Please use brains This would be a very reasonable answer. But you didn't answer this damdy. You've made it sound like applying to your invite would be alignment indicative. | ||
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LOLOLOLOLOL I just read it HTS! #rekt | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote: GB why are you so focused on truffle I find his try hardiness weird I don't understand posting his two opening sayinf he won't be playing because he will be practicing the keyboard, but immediately starts playing. Also, why posting it AFTER game start and not before? These are just weak things, but him asking a question without having a clear objective feels scummy to me. The question he directed to you is typically of someone who saw something scummy and is after some clarification. Instead, he makes nothing out of your answer which indicates he asked just to as, which could simply be scum trying to look like scum hunting | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: That my friend is the right question! What do you think? Was it a bait? | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:10 Damdred wrote: ^^ that is the correct answer. Damdy, pls. I'm have this flame starting inside me. The flame of the scumread. Can you explain what you bait was then and what did you get from it? | ||
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How can you opening possibly reveal alignments? | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:18 Trfel wrote: Not really sure. Largely because of his townread on GlowingBear and trying to catch rsoultin early on. The reasons are bad, but I kind of like the read anyway for some reason? But I might actually have to retract my townread on GlowingBear, I noticed something I really didn't like (it happened after raynpelikoneet went to bed though, I think). I need to reread it. Yeah, right. ##vote: truffle | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:20 Damdred wrote: ause I'm just good and can read into peoples reactions? Because truffle is pretty towny No he is not and you asked me something and made nothing out of it and you opening is clearly not a bait and you even made it that clear when you posted that people need to use their brains and now you're insisting it was a bait but can't even say how does that bait works. I hope you are prepared | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:33 J Roc wrote: Plus it's SL why wouldn't you bus him? Lol JAT? I'm gonna sleep Good night | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:35 J Roc wrote: Town read for trfel Nowatimsayin No Stop STAHP | ||
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It's pretty obvious I'm town, to be honest. | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote: I don't have to be prepared because shit tier arguments have no bearing on ne. They have glowingbearing on you | ||
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On September 29 2015 17:23 Rels wrote: GB making joke posts is weird 'cause his first post was serious. Let me check that. OK maybe I thought this post was serious when it wasn't. @GB was your first post serious ? Yes it was, I hate when people make openings saying they will lynch scum. They are usually scum. I make jokes all the time | ||
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On September 29 2015 17:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote i don't actaully think sicklucker is scum anymore. for the record to everyone i don't actually read what gb writes unless i think he is csum and he is not scum. but i have two really good scumreads. it makes one of my posts super funny. That's why you keep losing your games, I suppose | ||
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He has an opening requesting a town friend. For me, it looked like a simple post, nothing into it. Truffle asked a question and he answered like it was some kind of bait (mafia would be scared to hard align with him? Lol) Ok, then I asked what he got out of his bait, more than once. He never answered it directly. He has yet to explain WHAT the bait was and WHAT READS he got from it. He avoids answering this. He actually avoids any kind of question/pressuring, which is usually damdy's scum trait - My problem with truffle is: He came to the game really try hard - but his quearions are off. They usually don't have follow ups and I've caught him asking questions just to ask. For example, he asked a question to Damdred "why didn't you put 'town' as a requisition to be your friend?". Damdred answer, truffle never followed up. When I asked what truffle was expecting with that question he said he had no idea. When I asked what he got, he said nothing. Well, why did he ask the question then? I mean, I will usually ask things to further investigate someone's alignment and the answer provided will make me more certain of a read or uncertain. It doesn't seems that truffle was really caring to clarify something or to unveil Damdred's alignment. It just sounded like he wanted to look he was trying to produce content, which looks scummy | ||
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On September 29 2015 17:56 marvellosity wrote: dunno at the moment, didn't notice much Just read my accusations on him and tell me what you think of them | ||
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On September 29 2015 18:02 marvellosity wrote: obviously i didn't think much of them either way, hence my comment  Fair enough | ||
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On September 29 2015 19:03 Rels wrote: GB can you do your case about Damdred reacting weirdly about his "bait" ? 'cause I don't remember it being weird. If you don't I'll do it when I have time, but it won't be before a few hours There is nothing more to it, I won't be quoting at least any time soon because I'm using phone and I'm going to get a train right now | ||
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This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia. | ||
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On September 29 2015 19:18 marvellosity wrote: like why is Moosy even voting for me? he outlines all the reasons i already vaguely alluded to about rsoultin, so he decides to vote the one player in the game who apparently shares his views on her? why? are people just insane? To be fair you're doing something similar to Rsoultin | ||
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On September 29 2015 19:21 marvellosity wrote: except i'm not at all, all my posts have been to the point, i have a scumread that i explained in as few words as possible and didn't pretend to have opinions that i don't have shouting at damdred for saying blatantly incorrect things is not the same as what rsoultin is doing No marv, you are voting RSOULTIN until she does something townie herself, which is the sole reason people are voting you | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:10 rsoultin wrote: talk to me ^^ i'm in sweet not insulting everyone cause we're having enough of that already rsoul mode lol do you have any scumreads other than truffle? cause i still think he's town, too I still have both Damdred and Truffle. Damdred's opening felt townie to me but the follow ups are very shady. I've pointed out several times how his bait thing doesn't fit it but he keeps ignoring it, at least from what I've skimmed. He is too inclined to dismiss pushes and being very mad at little things. I hardly believe this comes from town Damdred. There was only one game that he was town that he reacted his way, and that one was when he was having IRL stuff. I am also inclined to lunch Sicklucker, I see him commenting everything but doing nothing with what he sees. I think Rels is town, I remember reading a post where Moosy was looking townie. Oh and that smurf is also very shady, could lynch. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin who is this guy? What comes to my mind is: jat yamato hf if this is any of those three people he is 100% scum. It's obviously none of them. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:21 rsoultin wrote: my damdy is an emotional town player and a robotic scum player has 100% never been proven wrong ever i'm the one who told you in that game you're referring to that he was town based off one page of the game if you're townreading me, trust me. he's town. and honestly even if you're not, i'd probably townread him if i were scum as i did last time anyway cause i'd find that easier lol >< than trying to push damdy when he knows i read him like a book sl had posts that were very sl-centric which gives him enough townie points to keep him around i think. he thinks the scummiest thing in the game is someone not reading his posts perfectly Well, then Damdred has changed his attitude a lot since we started playing together. Anyway, how do you explain him dismissing every push on him from a town perspective? I know what you said about him being emotional, but that outburst didn't seem natural for me. I may not pursue this further, tho. I'm not convinced truffle is town. I don't understand how easily he is getting town reads. So who are your scum reads right now? | ||
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On September 29 2015 12:02 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoul we have successfully filled 6 pages of the game with our argument. I feel rather accomplished. Do you? Dear, don't you think this post style sounds townish? | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:32 rsoultin wrote: um...why? i don't like the preachy tone throughout his posts...read my post game in my newbie. it's something that i've noticed in both him and ruxx as scum where they sit there and lecture people on how to be town not this post specifically, but having trouble making scumreads i think that applies to this game what gives me pause is if he's scum here he's obviously not mega-bussing again If he has trouble making scumreads it will be revealed later. The post I quoted felt townie to me because he is just freely making jokes. I don't usually see Mafia doing those sort of things IMO. Anyway, it's tonal. | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:37 rsoultin wrote: that's really not deserving of your top townread at all, rayn i cut down on bullshit as scum all the time for something to do/talk about, and moosy has shown he's not a scrub at playing scum but i can see why you'd be biased about it lol >< eh. maybe you guys are right but none of this is convincing me moosy is town what about his post when he voted marv? y'all think that is townie? I think this is not worth discussing right now | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:41 rsoultin wrote: -_- i really don't get why it's not but whatever y'all keep shutting me down so i'm just gonna go into a corner and sulk for a bit ye i'll vote j roc if there's nothing better I'm not shutting you down dear, trust me when I day it's not the best time Anyway, there are three Mafia. Who else would you lynch today for now? | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:47 rsoultin wrote: mostly collecting non-lynches, as per usual i don't want to lynch marv or rayn now lol >< also marv should remove his vote from me -beats marv with a wet noodle- i'd say truffle should, too, but i can't tell if he's just trying to mess with me or not. he'd do that -_- he thinks it's cute um ye i mean i should probably have more scumreads amongst the active but i'm only really feeling a moosy lynch? so whatevs? j roc and rels are zzz could lynch willing to leave shining until he can post bueno who was left? TL Cool or whatever? i dunnae he strikes me as newbie actually with the mechanics focus. i'm kinda okay with him i think I don't feel like lynching rels today and I have this feeling that there is a very active mafia between us. Anyway we could lynch Koshi EHM J Roc | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:53 Damdred wrote: Hrmmm, I don't get it. GB never shuts down talks in someone like he just did moosey, he's always open to talk about people as town and jump weird. Remember those times when I said I don't have a distinct meta? Yeah | ||
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On September 29 2015 21:01 rsoultin wrote: okay so for the sake of not spamming and more for the sake of getting my papers done and preparing for my thursday presentation i'm going to try to ignore this game until tomorrow wish me luck lol >< toodles Luck! Moosy, when you come back to the thread, please give your reads | ||
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On September 29 2015 21:23 Rels wrote: do you agree your posts were mechanical ? Nope because they aren't at all. I post whatever comes to my mind LS, I don't see anything from damdred's and Marv interaction. Just a fight between egos. Yeah. That's it. | ||
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On September 29 2015 21:28 Rels wrote: almost finished catching up, atm my reads are: pretty sure they are town: LS, GB maybe town: marv (will re evaluate at EOD), rayn, rsoultin, Damdred null: sicklucker, Shining, moosy maybe scum: JRoc would lynch: Trfel, coolTLname don't think they will move until the end of the read 'cause I'm got to the part I started posting Wait You are going against Moosy but have him as null, you scum read JRoc without saying much about him and you would lynch truffle for what reason? | ||
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On September 29 2015 21:35 Damdred wrote: Then your blind Marv is really towny fight was pretty informative and RS read right as always He does that as Mafia too Damdy, like the game we lost to him. I don't remember the name anymore. I'm not saying Marv is Mafia, I just don't see the fight as alignment indicative. And I'm trusting rsoul read on you so you could work with me now | ||
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On September 29 2015 21:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: The problem with this game isn't so much that there are no scum reads, it's that there are too many people I'm not townreading. - marv is town - Rels is town - Damdred is town - Lightningstrike is town Only people I'm certain of at this point. Oh yeah, GB is town lean. hm...rayn is scum lean. Alright. This guy is Mafia. You said all my posts were mechanical but never went pushing this matter further. You placed your vote on Marv in a very suspicious way. I told rsoultin to hold this discussion to see if you would pursue this matter further. I wanted to see if you would push your suspicions on me further without any influence of the players on you, and you didn't. I don't see how you can find me suspicious and vote Marv and come to the thread and call both of us town. The voting pattern and reads doesn't make sense | ||
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On September 29 2015 21:47 Damdred wrote: Ok moosey is probably lock town at this point WHAT? | ||
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You don't simply raise suspicions on someone and ignores it to vote Marv just because damdred was voting. Nor you come back to the thread and the guy you were being suspicions is suddenly a town read. | ||
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On September 29 2015 22:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes, and as I explained, both of these statements are wrong. I have a question for you GB. Were you serious when you said that rayn looked scummy early on in the thread? Yes, i was serious, although he started acting more townie later. I'm not really caring for him to be fair | ||
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On September 29 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: gotta go buy some beer for sauna, be back in ~15. This is the weirdest sentence I have read in a while | ||
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It's a shame Rayn doesn't read what I post. It really takes away some of the pleasure of playing the game | ||
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On September 30 2015 00:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: We were talking about coolTLname and I thought that I'd share my thoughts on him. So why are you trying to shut me down? I thought I was Mafia. I don't remember saying truffle is the only Mafia in the game. | ||
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On September 30 2015 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: So you're saying that you're more confident in your mafia!Trfel read than your mafia!Moosy read? Exactly | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:57 coolTLname wrote: being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion This guy is definitely a smurf | ||
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On September 30 2015 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: So this game is shit so i don't feel like playing it at all. I'll just tell three names at the end of day. My vote is on mafia. We could vote rayn to relief him from this pain | ||
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Rels Sicklucker Scott Rsoultin Rayn LS Marv TheShining Moosy CoolTL Damdred Truffle | ||
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On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote: mafia. ##unvote ##vote: rsoultin I don't see how that questioning revokes her town read on you. Could you break it down to my humble mind to understand? | ||
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On September 30 2015 18:32 marvellosity wrote: I really think Damdred is far too polite as an individual to swear at me like he did if he were mafia. Top read tbh. To be fair, I think he is far too polite to do that as town and would do that as Mafia because he is already deceiving people | ||
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On September 30 2015 18:35 marvellosity wrote: you obviously don't know damdred at all. bad read. Maybe I don't know him anymore but I've played a ton of games with him. Is that the only reason you have to call him town? | ||
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On September 30 2015 18:41 marvellosity wrote: i mean you don't have to be mafia, but it's a shit list and you're pushing bad reasoning about Damdred. doesn't look spectacular. did kinda like your early posts though I'm not scumreading him because I think he would fake emotion as Mafia. I'm scumreading him because he said he made a bait he never explained what it was. He also never have the reads he took out of that bait. Then he proceeds to be completely uninterested in the thread, not leading a single push. He came back only to tell you "sorry for being a cow" and to say "we could lynch GB to see if the bussing thing was true". I know it is a joke but even if it isn't, he is not interesting in solving the game and getting the correct lunch. | ||
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On September 30 2015 18:47 marvellosity wrote: yeah but he's just town, i don't care about your reasons. You do care about my reasons because you thought I could be Mafia for pushing bad arguments against him. You either care and dislike my arguments or you don't care and don't call me Mafia for that. | ||
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On September 30 2015 18:49 marvellosity wrote: mega-townie points for you for joining my wagon. wagon of justice. wagon of misogyny. er. mm. What a dick! Literally. | ||
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On September 30 2015 20:00 rsoultin wrote: so to the townies who for some reason think that me going hey, i'm not sure that marv is actually town and trying to get people to look at and talk about him, is likely to come from a scum rsoul whatcha gonna do when i flip town? xP I promise I will go after him. | ||
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On September 30 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote: @.@ if he's town that would be really stupid He said he is 100% sure on you and he is Marv; also, I don't like your read progression on him but I agree with your suspicions on him; also, he is driving the lunch away from truffle; also, he is not willing to discuss anyone else, he simply wants you to be Mafia. So yeah. I have plenty of reasons to vote Marv if you flip green | ||
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On September 30 2015 20:18 marvellosity wrote: these are all shocking reasons for ANYONE to be mafia. makes you look bad. You're driving away the lynch of a guy I'm certain is Mafia. You know it's ok to be suspicious of that. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:11 Rels wrote: @GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ? Hi I've played with Damdred a lot of times and it's not really meta. It's just I have seen Mafia damdred dismissing pushes on him. The emotional damded I have seen is the "aw, I don't like this game" instead of "fuck you fuck you all" Damdred is (was) one of the kindest people I have played with. I don't seem him doing this genuinely | ||
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You are weird. | ||
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And Marv, I simply don't have a clear townread on you. I find it weird that for all the badness you saw in my reads list, you limited yourself to defend Damdred. Why not diacussing the other lynch candidates? | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't remember which game it was but the game where we lynched Kelsier on D1 and shot Tormented on N1 (yamato conceded on D2), you remember? I am pretty sure you commented in the thread post-game. What GB's conclusions there were were like 1000x worse than the "if rsoultin flips town we lynch marv" or whatever he said. So it's not "out of line" for him to say something dumb like that. I was the one who shot tormented and the conclusion I had was that holyflare was bussing him. Stop saying I'm dumb when the shot was accurate and I was able to avoid shooting Holyflare out of my tunnel | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote: why would i bother GB? if you don't have the proper read on me, that's on you, not me. It may be on me, but I find it pretty reasonable to want to lunch you day2 when I cannot have a clear read on you and you lead a lynch on a possible townie when you're goddamn Marv without considering discussing other people, ESPECIALLY when the counter wagon is my strongest scum read | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:35 rsoultin wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485325-generic-boring-mini-mafia one of his post-game posts...but yeah this was definitely the game Where he was having serious IRL issues. And I stated this in my filter. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:38 marvellosity wrote: it's like you don't know how to make reads at all amazing This is a suspicion, not a read. I gave my lynch options for today. I want truffle dead. Period. Tell me a single town trait in truffle | ||
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This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you? | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote: so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why? Because it makes sense. I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote: this was well before marv said anything ademas i already said that gb's shifting implicit reads on me throughout the game i originally thought were part of trying to get a reaction, and it seemed he got one out of you speaking of which read progression on me gb please ^^ it hasn't been clear throughout the game As I said before in another, I usually don't care for your alignment until it's late game. I mostly found weird that you had only a lean townread on me when you are very good to know my alignment. You've been keeping the option of kynching me open which made me wary. Then Marv brought an argument on you that looked coherent. Then you look scummy. | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB who do you think are scum? Truffle, Damdred, you, maybe cool TL name, maybe rsoultin | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote: no i can't his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong? and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't? I know he gets mopy as town, the only exception he got angry was that game where he had serious IRL issues. So that's it. I'm not yelling my head off because I don't care. I want truffle dead because I think he is Mafia. I want Damdred dead because I think he is Mafia. Those are the two I want dead. NOBODY ELSE is willing to discuss them with me, so I don't care. Rayn is completely ignoring my posts, which is boring as hell. So yeah, I want truffle lynched but I won't put effort on it at all | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: let's be honest you haven't argued shit about lynching Trfel after the first 4h into the game.. He hasn't posted anymore? So are you willing to listen to me now? | ||
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On October 01 2015 00:57 rsoultin wrote: case on truffle please i don't know if you've been privy to damdred's other growls but i do know that i've told you how to read him before and you know that this isn't a scum tell at all for him. so why is he scum? Truffle is scum because he came try harding just to look good because his big load of questions didn't have any follow up nor it had any conclusions that led him into reads in this game. It's getting close to deadline and we don't know what his reads are. Damdred is scum for all his bait thing. He made it sound like he had a plan but he failed to explain what it was all about, and he failed to show us what reads he got from it, and yet we don't see Damdred actively trying to solve the game. He's just there, commenting stuff, barely existing. | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:05 rsoultin wrote: to be clear, this isn't true in tropical he reacted this way as well and i could probably find several other games if i bothered. i know for a fact that you've witnessed it once. i am willing to entertain the idea that perhaps you really think it's an exception because short of going through all your games together i can't really verify one way or another but damdred certainly gets mad as town and i've yet to see him respond like this as scum. ever. ever ever. so if you plan to keep pushing him you'd better have something else It's been repeatedly said in thread that him being emotional or not is not actually part of my scum read on Damdred. So yeah, I have something else. I'm not trying to read into his emotions | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:08 rsoultin wrote: - the no reads i'll accept...not getting something out of a question can happen with town, as well - damdred did get reads out of his bait thing so i'm not sure what you're on about. he's also been actively trying to solve the game Sorry, I don't see it in Damdred's filter. All I see is lack of interest and I never saw him answering me. The problem with truffle is that he asked questions but never had follow up on them. If you ask a question on something it's because you found sometbing suspicious, mostly. I'm not going to quote again the weird question he made to Damdred in the beginning of the game | ||
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Do as you please. But Damdred is Mafia and truffle also. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:20 Damdred wrote: Not really meta strictly its just how you are approaching the game. But its a bit laughable how you try to get reads on me then complain about broken meta My read on you is not based on meta and it's boring that you and rsoultin are focusing on a thing I'm not accusing you of since the first 6 hours of the game. I've repeatedly said that, I'm getting exhausted from saying that again. I AM NOT SCUM READING DAMDRED FOR HIS REACTION Maybe in bold people will know And if you say "town GB acts in this particular way and he isn't doing it here" it is meta | ||
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How can you fucking say there is someone bussing without a fucking flip? Just vote the scummiest, it's almost impossible to have a scum team out of associafion day1. I find that whoever does this on day1 is usually Mafia. | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:26 rsoultin wrote: the point GB is scum damdred LITERALLY NEVER gets mad or pouts as scum in my experience and your little bit of nothing should never outweigh that when you're fully aware he's an emotional robot as scum i'm not saying you're scumreading him for it; i'm saying you ignoring it is scummy cause you know better And you're ignoring that he is well aware of that trait and he may have faked it? Like I tried to do the ADHD last game I was scum? | ||
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On October 01 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote: it would be the first time he did it successfully. i'll grant you that you may possibly maybe believe this and you may not be scum for it, but no, damdred isn't faking and it's obvious Okay I will gently ask a possible cop to check him then. Let's discuss possible lynch targets then? | ||
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Like really, this thing of saying someone is derailing the thread is so off and he is always making associative reads which is expected from newbie Mafia (IMO) | ||
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That's it, I'm voting this guy. | ||
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On October 01 2015 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you understand you are getting lynched here if you do not vote for rsoultin? There is one mafia on you atm, you are tied with her and one mafia will switch his vote from rsoul to you. I don't care, I just want to try and lynch Mafia. If towbies are stupid and lunch me / does not consolidate, then it's their fault | ||
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He has being playing just like Shockey in that game he was always just considering scum teams | ||
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Read cool TL name "case" on me and realise how forced it is He NEEDS to be lynched. Again: he is reacting only to thread sentiment and making associations only to fit his scum agenda. Just fucking READ his filter. | ||
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So there is that. LYNCH COOL TL NAME. Brb later | ||
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On October 01 2015 04:45 Trfel wrote: I'm going to take a break. Have a kit kat | ||
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We are lynching cool TL. Please. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote: ...you're actually right...the voting thread is still very scattered he'd have to be reading the thread to come to the conclusion that it's between the three of us, wouldn't he? Dear, quick answer Top 3 scum reads and every town read of yours Go | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:13 rsoultin wrote: you're my main scumread could also lynch ls, cool in that order truffle, marv, shining, damdred still top towns rels next tier and no i'm not sure and won't be sure cause every time i think someone's scum i find reasons to think they're town >< and i'm not sure scott's claim is real, either, but i'm not lynching him this phase I'm voting cool TL Doesn't that give you pause? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote: given my scumread on you is stronger than on him? not particularly Why not pushing a lynch on me then? | ||
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Hmm no. You haven't even voted me yet. You are one of the best players to read me, like you can read Damdred, yet you have been wishy washy the whole day regarding me. You do have a scum read or you have a town read on me. I don't expect you have leaning reads on me. Maybe you're saying I'm not displaying my town traits, ok. But am I playing like I do as Mafia? Saying I'm never hyper focused is an extreme lie. Saying I never not cared for a lynch as town is an extreme lie. As FreezingFoot, I was extremely into the game, doing the best I can to drive lynches, and I was Mafia. So I can or cannot care for the lynch as both alignmebts. That is the sole reason you're scumreading me. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote: If trefel is town I will eat a bear Pls no | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:34 marvellosity wrote: for example. I just read TheShining's filter. It kinda looks ok. But what's in it? A semi push on coolTLname. I basically can't find another suspicion. Is this supposed to be townie? Well, for someone who couldn't be active, he needs to place a vote somewhere | ||
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I don't see her name striked in there | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:40 scott31337 wrote: I don't want to lynch the bear over cool. What are your other scummers Marv? I don't think he wants me lynched? | ||
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HAHAHAHA WTF is going on gents You guys are too sensitive | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:42 marvellosity wrote: I think Theshining's posts don't have the casual comments that i've seen in the couple of his towngames i saw. they're longer and more mechanical like the scumgame i read. i don't know if this must make him mafia, but the lack of discussion on people when clearly we are casting around is really annoying. Marv he stated he doesn't have time. I think it's fair enough to give him more time if he has nothing scummy in his filter? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote: like seriously? does he have an opinion? does town gb ever not have something he's crowing/ranting about when he's actually here? it's not just about "vacation" he's actually here I'm lynching my target, I don't know what you're into here. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:48 rsoultin wrote: not pushing anything not pushing anything when your target wasn't getting lynched now you come back when you can be lynched pretty obvious what i'm getting at here I've been here for like 1 or 2 hours talking about stuff? Lol I'm pushing things that drives my attention, for example, your lack of certainty of my alignment until now. The fact that you're not voting cool TL makes me feel even better with this lynch | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:49 Damdred wrote: Everyone shut up and lynch scott No. We are lynching cool TL | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: yeah and he may be scum but i'm still town and you're still not pushing anything ^^ I'm getting my target lynched. I'm pretty sure I've pushed it enough | ||
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LYNCH COOL TL | ||
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Keep your votes on COOL TL he is Mafia | ||
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Easy game? Duh | ||
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ARGH DAMDRED ISN'T EVEN CLAIMING TRACKER, HE IS CLAIMING HE WILL HE DEAD | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote: come on vote :/ gb if you don't change your vote you are claiming scum in my eyes I'm not changing my vote | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:58 Damdred wrote: I will be sorely disappointed in the balance if Scott flips tracker There were games where we had 2 masons Why not 2 1 shot trackers? Argh!!! | ||
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I am lynching Damdred if he doesn't die tonight So fucking unpleasant | ||
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On October 01 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote: I'm upset with balance and now I'm going to die, If you're town you have no idea if the balance is okay I'm also lynching rsoultin | ||
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On October 01 2015 07:25 Damdred wrote: Welp maybe I won't die and I'll just be lynched two blues I've gotten lynched this game. Uh huh. Mafia did EVERYTHING to keep that guy alive. EVERYTHING. I'm voting no one else other than cool TL name tomorrow. He even ninja'ed a vote on scott at deadline just to survive. | ||
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On October 01 2015 07:35 Damdred wrote: Well Idk what scum motivation is if I'm scum going 1 for 1 is always town favored not scum favored. So Idk why I'm automatically scum for thinking it's highly suspicious if not unlikely that two roles exist like that Ok you're town, just kill cool TL name tomorrow | ||
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On October 01 2015 07:37 coolTLname wrote: GB no ones taking you seriously after that day 1 , want a kit kat? Yes | ||
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On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. Rayn, listen, if he comes to the thread and purposely hides my name you can conclude I'm Mafia with him. And I'm not. There is no reason he says what he says as Mafia unless it's to cover me. You get fixated with those little details that can also come from town. It's not because one post is off that someone is Mafia. You always get a wrong scumread in every game for doing this. | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not true. LS says alot of shit that doesn't make any sense as mafia regardless of who his scumbuddies are. My question is: (1) does he said A LOT of shit that doesn't make sense in this game other than that? (2) doesn't he say shit that doesn't make sense as town too? I'm not saying he isn't Mafia, I'm saying you're over focused on a thing you can't safely rely on | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think you are focusing too much on "if LS flips mafia it does incriminate me", which it does not. Read my latest post. I've read it. I've got what you mean and it makes sense. Still, I find it possible that LS can do that as town. What I DO think is that LS coming back and caps locking asking why did we lynch scott was fabricated. I mean, people lynched scott because we had a counter claim, and solely that. It was dumb, but not 100% stupid. It seems fake. | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah. on the same page. add LS to that. It would actually explain why he doesn't mention you, doesn't want to tie himself up on supporting your lynch in case rsoultin gets lynched while defending her (yes, i can totally see LS thinking like this as mafia). It's possible. Also, cool TL has being acting weird and rsoultin never approached him properly. When he was up for the lynch, she started discussing a lot of people without actually presenting reasons why cool TL shouldn't be the lynch. She never voted him. Then she wanted me lynched. Then she easily shifted to scott without thinking twice about the claims. Rsoultin ALWAYS analyses the claims deeply. It came clear for me it was better to let scott survive because Mafia has a strong man. If he wasn't mafia, he was dead. Period. He didn't bring it to the thread. She quickly voted scott and tried to blackmail me into voting him ("I will scumread you if you don't change your vote") | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia.. 3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). Everything he posts is fabricated. He tries to incriminate people with things that simply aren't true. He says I'm never bringing something new but I'm always developing discussion and putting my thoughts on people. I have no idea how he decided that I'm scum. It just seems he took the easy path when I was getting votes and is never letting it go | ||
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On October 01 2015 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think that happened after the counter-claim, no? I didn't see it if it happened. Why did she vote scott then? | ||
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On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: Thoughts on EoD: The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear. Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him. LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original. I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. That's one of the most stupid conclusion ANYONE can get to. NOBODY busses a team mate when there is a counter claim in the thread. Mafia will take the chance to lynch the blue 100% of the times and you should KNOW I think of it this way because I was against your bus on cake last game we played together. The fact that you're fitting this scum team to your agenda instead of thinking about facts reasonably makes me see you more scummy than ever. | ||
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On October 02 2015 00:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: i mean, the situations are completely different since in our game there was no alternative blue lynch and coolTLname is pretty much dead fish in the water. makes no sense to not bus tbh. you buy townie credit by pushing on coolTLname as well. You're saying that I prefered to lynch my team mate instead of going against the counter claimed blue that I KNOW is blue because I, as Mafia, have perfect information. You're saying that I'd rather get town cred for lynching my scum mate when I don't need town cred to survive instead of lynching the blue without compromising myself by doing it. This makes no sense at all. Also, you came back just to say 3 people looked worse, one of them being the guy under suspicion by me and Rayn (LS). So I'm double bussing here when I agree that LS could be scum? Also, you threw 3 suspicions but you simply assume cool TL is Mafia without arguing he should be the lynch. These will sum up to 4 Mafia, and the one you are pretty sure is Mafia (because you are pretty sure I'm BUSSING) is someone you didn't talk about lately. Also, if I am bussing, don't you agree you should be lynching Cool TL to prove your theory? Wouldn't this be a win/win situation? | ||
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On October 02 2015 00:55 MoosyDoosy wrote: Then explain your post stating that you were trying to mimic frenetic town in our scum game together GB. What's your goal in this game? And why did you keep on pushing coolTL? What made you not believe Damdred's counter claim? I was simply sure that cool TL is Mafia and I was already scum reading Damdred and I thought Mafia did everything close to EOD to shift the lynch and to know if scott is or isn't lying all we needed was to wait to see if he would die at night. My plan is to catch Mafia, I don't have to try to emulate a thing in here because I'm town | ||
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On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote: Guys gb is are roleblocker I'm not, I was just upset and made that up | ||
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On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..? Ok, maybe I was angry and focused on the wrong thing, but you do see the problem in your thought process? Ive bolded what I thought was stupid, not the whole post | ||
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On October 02 2015 02:43 sicklucker wrote: i know and i thought you were trying to take a bullit =/ poorly I wasn't lol | ||
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On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote: this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia | ||
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On October 02 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16 starts from ~half of that page (N1). coolnamedude is mafia. rsoultin is mafia. LighntningStrike is mafia in that order of confidence. MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town. I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia. I'd rather lynch moosydoosy before LS | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure. Cool. We are almost on the same page. | ||
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It's useless to discuss Damdred at this point. We just need him to say who he tracked. | ||
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You're both good players but Marv didn't lead anything in the thread and you have been relentless. If you were right on every suspicion, you would have been killed almost 100% of the times. | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:22 rsoultin wrote: anyway the point is gb's point isn't invalid and i'm not gonna keep talking to a wall :/ gb, please, if you think that we're going down the wrong path, where do you want to go? I think we are hitting Mafia when killing cool but we may be wrong with LS and you. And I am asking him to listen to you more instead of incriminate and don't reevaluate you. That's all. Rayn I'm having lunch with parents, will soon address to your post | ||
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Does anyone has reasons to believe cool TL is town? We've already said enough why he is scum. If nobody thinks he is town, we don't have any more reasons to discuss him. Just let the lynch happen and discuss other people. | ||
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On October 02 2015 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/i]So here it is. Please read the whole thing because it's actually relevant to this game in other ways aswell. First i give you some examples; A while ago i tried to convince a town to lynch someone because they said "this guy is scum because he is pocketing rayn, but i don't think rayn is necessarily town". You might remember the game... I don't actually think anyone in the game really got my reasoning for why it was obvious the guy was mafia, while it was like "i have this pie here. i am eating it with my spoon. If i have taken away the spoon from the table, it's impossible that guy ate the pie with a spoon. If he claims so afterwards, he is a liar." Really obvious? Mmmm.. apparently it wasn't. Some year(s) ago i made a case on a guy who did the following; First they called someone out on p20. Then afk. Then i asked for their case. They said: "Here is my case [reasoning from page 30-40]". It is obvious that the dude is mafia because it's literally impossible he has thought someone is scum on p20 if his case doesn't have a simple scummy thing on that guy before p20. Seems like a simple thing? Mmm.. guess what, i had to argue for about 20 pages why it is obvious, hell MAFIA ARGUED FOR ME (yes, his scumbuddies) why it is obvious that guy is mafia. I had to draw a fucking mspaint picture to clarify why it is impossible the dude is NOT lying because apparently my words are somehow unclear... Now let's go to this game, i have a couple of examples. The first one, maybe easier to understand is this: rayn: TLname the votes piled up on you because scott claimed TLname: no, i had 7 votes before scott claimed rayn: [here is proof why you are lying] rayn: explain TLname: ...... ..... TLname: i had 7 votes before scott / damdred / cc rayn: it does not work like that, explain why you are lying rsoultin: the thing here is that [u]was not the original argument. I consider rsoultin one of the smartest people in this game. If one of the smartest people fails to realize / doesn't even care what i write / (or twists things around which i believe is the case here -- and noone even calls her out for it) in the first place, how am i supposed to think other people do? Another one: J Roc: rayn bussed sicklucker here rayn: i don't unnecessary bus and everyone knows it, this would be an unnecessary bus, so you are just straight out lying Trfel: but rayn you bus Damdred: yeah you bussed there in the game Trfel pointed out. rayn: what the fuck is this bullshit Damdred, you were in the game?!?!? rsoultin: Damdred is factually correct. In fact Damdred is NOT factually correct here. Even if he believes i unnecessary bussed there, that is not the point. The point is the I DON'T BELIEVE IT and i have clearly expressed it in many occasions. The question becomes to; "rayn himself thinks he doesn't unnecessary bus. would this interaction with sl here be an unnecessary bus in his opinion? If yes, then J Roc's "case" is invalid. If no, then rayn could be mafia for what J Roc says". And that was the point of the argument, not if anyone else than me does/doesn't think if i unnecessary bussed in some other game. I can understand someone having a different view from the XXX game, but saying "Damdred's argument is factually correct" is just bullshit, because it doesn't have anything to with the original argument. It brings me to this: If i get shot here the following will happen. My reads are proven to be legit, as in a sense that i actually believe in what i am saying (as in i am confirmed not mafia). When this happens, me, and everyone knows marv WILL actually go read what i wrote about people and will evaluate if he thinks i was right or not. He definitely did not do that during N1, so actually NOONE knows where he stood by the end of the night phase. Marv is way more persuasive than i am. It is a fact, just because apparently my writing skills are the poorest on this site and often times i have to yell my lynches through -- which makes people ignore me. Marv also understands me. Therefore, if marv dies - regardless of if i am right or not - mafia has a person (rayn) alive, who is way more easier to ignore/discredit/what the fuck ever people are always doing than marv is. 100%. And that is the reason why marv dying does not make me "wrong" like you suggest here GB. If i am 100% right on my reads and they are good, marv will read them in case i die, and it is 100% more likely he actually believes me than any other person in the game and actually gets those people lynched. You remember a game where obi was Mafia and he got to LYLO after we lynched FirmTofu and clarity? In that game you've caught rsoultin in a failure of thought process similar here. She was town. I understand everything you're saying here. I'm just asking you to take a step back and listen to rsoultin. You won't lose time by trying to see her coming from a town perspective. I understand what you get from the night kill but you know that Mafia could simply say "ok people are on the right track, kill Marv and keep Rayn alive". It is possible. For instance, the shining could be Mafia. Marv was the only one looking into him. Maybe he is. And maybe Moosy is Mafia. You also agree he has been shady. And if all of this is correct, neither rsoultin and LS are Mafia. And you were on the wrong track. I'm just simply asking you to reconsider things. We are already lynching cool TL today. We don't have to start a holy crusade yet | ||
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On October 03 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote: Even if cool is scum it doesn't mean truffle isn't. But an apathetic truffle is not a town truffle. Unless I find give a shits in his filter didn't notice before I think he's highly likely to be scum, even over cool He doesn't seem apathetic to me, he is repeatedly putting his thoughts on the game. It's still day2 and the game has 162 pages. I know truffle doesn't have patience to read big games, so he is being pushy as much as I would expect from him | ||
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On October 03 2015 07:55 LightningStrike wrote: Just going to part my vote on coolTLname until further notice since no one really wants to push anything outside of him. Yeah I'm basically just skimming the thread from time to time, I don't feel like playing before his lynch | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:11 rsoultin wrote: like real talk, time, rayn with how hard i went on rels there for his dropping his trfel scumread to sheep you guys, whatever "blame" he could have escaped from my flipping town was kind of nonexistent. i'd already made a pretty big stink about him Dear, I've seen rels filter diving and constantly putting opinion in thread. He looks like he is trying to solve the game. Rels is a guy I'm not willing to lynch at all | ||
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Moosy has some arguments that I can't get behind. Very weird. I have no idea where LS is and that makes him look bad Anyway, if cool TL flips town I bet the Mafia team is one of the guys laying back and doing nothing. Like me But yeah. | ||
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On October 03 2015 20:21 rsoultin wrote: that's fine? i'm voting cool? the distinction in my mind between moosy/rels isn't very great, tbh...which one i think is scummier lol >< i mostly just don't like rels' reasons for pushing cool because i think he's generally more rational than that, and filter dives or not i don't feel like he really pushed his read d1 or got involved with the current wagons beyond mine early when i pushed him for jumping on me Yeah I'm just saying that your read on Rels is wrong | ||
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On October 04 2015 00:18 rsoultin wrote: hm, except i'm town and ls is like 98% town so marv being killed over rayn does make sense to me :/ even without any of his reads being scum eh i'll take another look at shining tonight i think but really i think he's town...and damdy thinking he's town too makes me more confident in that read, cause damdy knows him better than i do like maybe i'm missing something but is your main reason for scumreading moosy just his response to your saying that you'd expect a scum gb to have done what he did? Dear, don't you think Rayn might be Mafia? | ||
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On October 04 2015 00:35 rsoultin wrote: honestly? do i think there's a possibility? sure do i think it's highly likely even though he's being a boob? no i can't remember a town game he hasn't tunneled the shit out of me. he's pushed me as scum, too, but his interactivity here makes me feel like he's really town in this case Fair enough | ||
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On October 04 2015 00:47 rsoultin wrote: why, are you suspicious of him, gb? I suspect everyone in the game, there are just people I suspect less, and that's the case of Rayn. It just crossed my mind that he dismissed further discussion with you just by saying "I don't argue with scum". I would be very annoyed if he did that to me and you don't look that annoyed. But I'm not reading the discussion between you two. I just want the flip, although I'm considering lynching Moosy instead. | ||
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On October 04 2015 02:43 Rels wrote: Nobody I would lynch shining or moosy after him If you would lynch both of them, why not lynching them now? | ||
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On October 04 2015 02:56 Rels wrote: Because coolTLname is mafia I'm sure he s a lurker reader. I was convinced by two slips he made about knowing the people playing here. And a lurker reader wouldn't play like that as town. Talking about the medic claim bait here Trfel did a big a post about how nobody did that (reading games but not playing or talking). He gave Scott as an exception that was a lurker reader. He said that there was w orld of difference between Scott's play and cooltlname s play Guess what: 1 - that is my point. A lurker reader woudlnt play like that as town 2- in my first game, I caught Scott as scum and made him lynch. I'll repeat: in my first game ever as a newbie, I caught him as scum and was the main force behind his lynch Now about the "nobody does that": well, I'm the living proof that people DO that. In 2008 or so, II read some games in this forum, but never posted or asked for obs qt or anything. The best part: that is verifiable, as I had to ask for the permission to read this forum, so its one of my first post ever in this site Yeah but a Mafia team wouldn't let him be the lunch for two consecutive days without doing nothing. And this is what is happening here | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:36 Damdred wrote: Ok everyone follow me onto GB, his play doesn't make sense from a town perspective lets go. Thank you Damdy. If cool TL flips Mafia I will go after you 100% of the time | ||
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I was trying to see if Mafia would take a chance to mislynch and blame me for it. | ||
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But I am 100% voting cool TL today and I won't change my vote | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: @.@ if this is true i don't know why you keep doing this. it keeps getting you scumread and what reads did you actually get from it? Because it's funny and it may actually give good information for people that are good analysts. I always said my main town trait is to develop discussion.Reads will depend on the flip, obviously. | ||
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Why would I as Mafia do this just to risk being scum read IF we are hitting town? Jesus. | ||
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I've already said it will depend on the flip. Imagine you're Mafia and your partner is cool TL, doomed. You see a townie leading the lynch to another guy What would you do? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:46 Rels wrote: OK coolTLname is probably town Let's switch LOLWUT? You just said the guy is lurker reader. He is only posting a case on me NOW close to deadline when people are arguing about lynching me. In other words, he is clearly lurker reader??? And this is clearly orchestrated? Lol if you guys switch to me and let cool TL live AGAIN I can't say much about your stupidity. | ||
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WE ARE LYNCHING COOL TL TODAY WE ARE NOT LETTING HIM LIVE ANOTHER DAY JUST TO FUCK THE GAME UP WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING WITH THESE STUPID SUDDEN TOWN READS??? | ||
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THE GUY IS CLEARLY JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE THE WHOLE GAME I WILL FUCKING KICK DEAD PUPPIES | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:53 Rels wrote: Dude You said the whole time there was NO way mafia would bus two straight days Gogogo I didn't mean it? Dude the guy has all the scum traits a human being can have. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote: Fine by me, I don't like dogs, same with puppies. Plus if they're already dead, it doesn't bother me if you kick them, really. I'll rape marsupials, then. | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:54 Rels wrote: No I didn't read it He expected to be dead and posted this giant thing WHY WOULD NOT LIE LOW IF HE IS BEING BUSED Dude he had time to do that whole post after I voted him. He could have done that post before so people can discuss me. He did it now to try to get a lynch on me. You can't seriously see it? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:55 coolTLname wrote: Look Marv said he likes me VOTE GLOWING BEAR Dude look at this LOL | ||
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DON'T SWITCH | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:58 coolTLname wrote: OK DAMDRED SL RSOULTIN DO U WANT TO VOTE FOR MOOSY See? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote: ummm did you seriously include your own name in here? lol LMFAO | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am officially quituing this game right now. I will meet the activity requirements. I am done playing with dumbasses. I have better things to do. I thought you were okay to lynch cool TL | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: try me Stop being emo, you're metal | ||
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Scum team is sicklucker, LS and Moosy. Have a good night | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote: so...we're down 4 should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN that's 8 players 5v3...yeah fuck -_- If no lynch is possible, we should totally no lynch | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why did you lynch cooltlname i cant understand it was a mistake i think someone is mafia i dont know why or who i jsut think let me read the thread real quick brb 52 hours btw its hmm... trfels fault i am not playing btw remember this. fuck you i won't do what you tell me. Wow that crack was strong | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:52 MoosyDoosy wrote: gb, i feel you are very sexually frustrated. I am right now. I'm not in my country and I have no one to party with me. I feel sad. | ||
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I don't feel like putting too much effort but I always see LS being in thread, saying shit like "yeah I agree with you I dislike this person" but keeping his vote on cool TL and always giving excuses of how he is not going to be around. If you consider rsoultin and Rayn as townies, Mafia is clearly letting town destroy ourselves. Which means: they are laid back. Like sicklucker, who is here but doing nothing. Like LS. | ||
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On October 05 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I really hope Mafia kills me because i am blue. Uh huh. | ||
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Upset. It seems I'm not getting call from people I meet because I've been giving the wrong phone number to them. Other than that, I'm fine. | ||
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On October 05 2015 04:24 MoosyDoosy wrote: "Upset." "But I'm okay." ^ Clear contradiction! Lyncherino with fire. It's day so hopefully your sexual desire is dampened yeah? It's actually 11pm here. And I blew all the 4G credit. I'm very upset | ||
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On October 05 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: wow i am also blue ![[image loading]](https://opipoqueiro.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/smurfs-cartoon.jpg) | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:06 rsoultin wrote: to be more precise, gb, your "reaction test" had no goal at all or perhaps you'd like to explain it? If cool TL was scum the scum team would try to switch their votes to anyone else. Cool TL wasn't Mafia. I couldn't draw any conclusions. I've already explained what the reaction test was | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote: so today im voting gb or shining maybe rels. gbs read progression is just so bullshit completeyl made up. I said at the start theres a way to catch gb as mafia and thats it This is stupidity because you've played enough games with me to know I flip my reads as town. | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:28 sicklucker wrote: yes but you can see where you flip them and why. all game i was your top town read and now in lylo im conveintly your top scum read? I dont know why you town read me and I dont know why you scum read me if you want to change my opinion lets start with that I thought your posts were genuine. When you're Mafia you usually, by my memory, say everyone is Mafia and that they are trying to frame you. You sound like a girl in the middle of a pack of wolves. I have not seen it in this game. But as the game went by I started to evaluate people under the scum mindset of survivability, and you are simply doing it. Just surviving, not actively trying to solve the game, not wanting to find and lynch scum. I just see you... Existing. | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote: mhm and you didn't find it weird that trfel voted shining with you? or that no one else wanted to switch off cool? No because as I said it dependent on the flip and cool TL flipped town. Scum could've keep their votes wherever they wanted | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote: and you decided to post "meh, we're hitting town" while changing your vote back instead of just saying it was a reaction test because why? I kept trying to see if people would propose another lynch while I secured my vote on cool TL because maybe I couldn't get back later | ||
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On October 05 2015 20:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: Just some random thoughts: The Trfel kill was probably an attempt to kill blue but they got the wrong guy (itsa me Mario!) Anyway, there are several reasons why rayn is alive: 1. He is Mafia 2. He said he would RNG and they believed him 3. They were going after the blue role The 1st only becomes serious when rayn lives the next night. I'm inclined to think it's the 3rd as the 2nd doesn't make much sense. Also, as Trfel was town and one of the people trying to push off of coolTLname, there should be a Mafia that also tried to push off of coolTL. Hahahaha Is that what you discussed in the scum qt? We already have two Blues dead. Where did you get the idea truffle was blue??? | ||
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Rels - town Rayn - maybe town Rsoultin - I'm not sure, maybe town Moosy - maybs Mafia Shining - maybs Mafia LS - Mafia Am I forgetting someone? | ||
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I'm not sure... I mean, if I take survivability literally, he is Mafia. But a lot of posts of his stroke me as town. So I'm uncertain.9 | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: update your list please. not "if's". Only town/mafia I'm not sure on anyone except on Rels. But if I have to choose... Rels - town Rsoultin - town Rayn - town sicklucker - town Moosy - mafia Shining - mafia LS - mafia | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:35 Rels wrote: OK now that both rsoultin and sicklucker have answered, I can finally do this. (= I'm 1-shot French Oak (roleblocker) I breadcrumbed my role in my first post: FO 1 => 1 shot French Oak. fidei told me he didn't cheat the setup to give me the role, but I'm pretty sure he did ... thanks mate. <3 I roleblocked Moosy N2. My goal was to wait as long as possible to use my shot, to have more chance at blocking KP + maybe have strongman already used. But with us at LYLO yesterday if I didn't block KP, I had to chance it. To do that, I needed to not be killed. That's why I did so few cases, and almost didn't use bold through the game. If you look through my filter, you'll see there is a big different between D1-2 and D3; with strongman used and my shot used, I could post freely. This is the worst breadcrum I have ever seen LMAO | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:44 Rels wrote: So rsoultin reacted to the Moosy's claim by immediately removing Moosy from her lynch list. SL was super indecisive about it. I'm pretty sure rsoultin is the third mafia. Did you already make a list? | ||
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Why do you admit rels is throwing the game instead of believing he could be Mafia fake claiming? | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am multishot unlike my inferior counterpart Rels. You're saying he is throwing the game. You BELIEVE his claim? | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: Rels is town because only he can do something as dumb as this as town. This is something I can never believe. You see a guy at LYLO counter claiming, you DON'T believe his claim but you think he is town???? | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote: no. lynch me so we can all bask in Rels stupidity. You just said you don't believe his claim... | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: Rels is town, probably has a role, and is incredibly dumb. Why did you say you don't believe his claim, then? | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:03 GlowingBear wrote: Oh I see! Duh haha No really, what is your idea of why truffle got shot? I want everybody answering this, especially rayn | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote: Why did you say you don't believe his claim, then? Answer this? | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:25 sicklucker wrote: gb moosy has always posted as if he believes rels is town. your misinformed here probably thinking of rels. No, he clearly said first that he didn't believe. And he is clearly avoiding answering that question. | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:34 sicklucker wrote: GB HES CALLING RELS A STUPID TOWN FOR THINKING HES MAFIA. he never once calls rels mafia. he only suggests its possible I know, I'm saying that he said he doesn't believe Rels' claim? | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:37 sicklucker wrote: he never once said that. he believes it. AND THATS THE WEIRD PART I just posted a fucking image of him saying "no". It's not the weirdest part. The weirdest part would be believing Rels is town while NOT believing his claim | ||
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Oh so you ARE here. Nightkills point out to Rayn being scum Rayn admittedly said Marv could read him well Marv is dead Truffle was the only one with the guts to cast suspicions on Rayn Truffle is dead Rayn is alive Others are dead | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:17 Rels wrote: LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )= I'll copy what I said earlier: 1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely This is a straight lie. GB rescinded his claim on N1 5h30 before deadline: Moosy posted in the thread only 2 MINUTES later, ironically replying to GB he's not reading the thread: He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind: So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim. 2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (= And we can add: 3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia. 4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens. 1. He skips posts a lot of times. He could genuinely skipped my post 2. He may really not have read his role. I don't know what levels stupidity can reach 3. We don't know how many roles Mafia has. We already know Mafia has a roleblocker and a strongman AND a Miller was in the game. Two power roles and two lesser roles may be a possibility 4. See above | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually something to ask. Does TMI stand for too much information? Too much insight in Mafia slang I think | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:52 LightningStrike wrote: I will check marv's filter and Trfel's filter(again) and see what you said is true about Tfrel suspecting Rayn and see waht Marv's read on Rayn was at time of death. I don't know Marv's read. But if he can read Rayn well, he is a threat if alive | ||
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- Rayn is Mafia - Rayn is town and so is rsoultin and mafia kept them alive so they would infinitely argue until the end of the times | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:56 LightningStrike wrote: There is def mafia between MD and Rels like I pretty certain at least based on claims. Maybe Shining off of PoE and idk sicklucker unless I wrong on you? What makes you believe I'm town? Also, you don't believe both their claims can be true? If you had to choose a person to vote, who would it be? | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote: if you're wrong on gb i don't think it's for that post? i think he could post that as town. i think it's more of a general disinterest from him and that reaction test thing that doesn't look anything like he actually intended to get anything from it <3 | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: no it's like.. he doesn't have options anymore so he does just.. something. illogical bullshit. other posts of his have some weird gb logic behind them, this one doesn't. Regardless if I believe it or not, that post is very logical and running out of options is the bullshittiedt argument I ever had. With cc, all Mafia needs to do is pick one side. Like Rayn, pls. | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:27 LightningStrike wrote: Some of your earlier stuff I thought you were town for. Idk what HTS was smoking if she gives 1 shot roleblocker with a full roleblocker that just seems kinda odd for balancing unless we get a mafia flip. If I had to choose who to vote out of Rels and MD it's MD I thought Rels town before the claim anyways. The town Roleblocker could act against town. Like, roleblocking the detective or the tracker. Is very balanced considering we already have a Mafia roleblocker and a strong man | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote: If rsoultin is mafia, then LightningStrike has a very good chance at also being mafia. Then I will add The Shining as mafia, not sure why, just because it feels right. Could probably be anyone in my lynch pool, though. MoosyDoosy, sicklucker, and The Shining or rsoultin, LightningStrike, and The Shining. I'm voting for The Shining today. I mean it. ##unvote ##vote: the shining | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: but i can lynch shining or GB aswell. I don't care. You want to lynch me because I called you Mafia? Hahaha Oh my god Rayn, you have to stop being emotional. What are you listening to now? Avenged Sevenfold? | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes, i am callign you mafia because you call me mafia for shit reasons. go back to listen to your Jamiroquai and try to get laid. Italy is a difficult country to get laid. I think.But where the Jamiroquai thing came from? Hahahahaha Rayn, listen. I saw the thread dead and I decided to post something completely new to see if I would get some discussion going on. The thread was dead. Although I think the suspicions are genuine, I don't think you're actually Mafia. So could you cool down and think with a more clear head? | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:48 rsoultin wrote: ... yeah i'm leaving i tried -_- Stay here. What do you think of The Shining? | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can understand why you didn't succeed.- Maybe I'm not as good looking as I thought I was :/ | ||
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Marv was the first to draw suspicions on shining. He died. Truffle was the main guy who started going against the shining. He died instead of Rayn. This heavily implies that the discussion between Rayn and rsoultin was good for the Mafia team, and that these two guys were entering the right path. Especially truffle who was being scumread by many. I see no motivation for killing truffle other than that. Rels was getting more townreads, I was getting more town reads, Rayn was getting more town reads, even the shining was getting more town reads than truffle. I think there is the possibility that both claims are real. More than that, if we can actually lynch scum, the claim problem with solve itself later as if Moosy as the real roleblocker is alive, he can successfully Roleblock Mafia's KP. So I suggest we decide the lynch OUTSIDE Rels and Moosy | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote: The only one who was really scum reading tref was me and even I knew he was town. I just didnt post my new reads at night because im not a drooling idiot. it was so clear he was town and that i was wrong about him after the coolt flip Rsoultin also called him Mafia if I remember correctly. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:11 sicklucker wrote: Like gb the true power of a town roleblocker is in late game spots. Its a super strong role because if there 1 mafia left you can roleblock any player in the game. if kp is not delivered you have found the mafia. if kp is delivered you have a confirmed town. A town roleblocker is almost as strong as a cop having 2 roleblockers a cop and a tracker is the most stupid shit you have ever said. sorry bro i like u Listen You have a cop and a roleblocker. It's strong, right? But you also have a Mafia roleblocker and a strongman, AND a Miller and who knows if we have another Mafia power role. This scenario is a little favoured to Mafia. Now you have a 1 shot tracker who can track any role including town And a one shot roleblocker that can roleblock town also. These are not THAT strong. Add to this that the probability of the strong man shooting a blue role DOUBLES. Seems reasonably balanced to me. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: This is not that hard to understand. This whole set up was balanced around the existence of the Detective and the whole set up is pointless without the existence of the Detective. We have a 1-shot tracker, 1-shot roleblocker, and a townblocker to balance out the Detective. Mafia has the Strongshot and most likely Framer/Godfather to balance it out. But with Damdred dead, there’s no point in the set up as I keep on saying. It’s not that hard to see this set up being real which is why I think Rels is town. Dumb cases that consist of 85% terrible/already explained/refutable points are also signs that Rels is town. Either way, lynching either me or Rels is completely dumb as the set up is A. completely possible and B. can be figured out over time. What we should be doing is lynching someone that everyone already agrees is scum. As a note, I’m disappointed in Rels for not being able to read me for the 3rd game in a row and rayn for not being able to read me for the 3rd game (not in a row) as well. I’m also disappointed that both can’t seem to draw this logical conclusion. Not even going to bother reading the thread as I’m sure it’s Rels/rayn jacking off to their imaginary scum worlds and probably tunneling some other townie. Nah, Moosy, you've been acting very scummy throghout the game. Some of your posts doesn't make sense at all. But for some reason, it seems too easy for you to be scum. For some reason I believe in some of your reactions. I just think that truffle died because he was in the right path. He was right on me. He was right on cool. So I'm lynching his top scum read who isn't having any thread presence at all | ||
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Would you lynch the shining? | ||
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Grow some balls | ||
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So I will ask again: if you don't believe it's possible, who are you voting? | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:40 MoosyDoosy wrote: but gb :o this is clearly my last mafia ploy to try and appeal to emotion!!!11!!1 It could be, but if you're town, all you have to do is try to figure the game out instead of being defeatist | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:47 sicklucker wrote: neither because we can kill the mafia roleblocker . if that happens moosy can roleblock a mafia confirm himself and that mafia and win us the game. So moosy if your town dont be so defeated you sob you can still be a hero Yeah but one of them is definitely Mafia if you don't trust both claims. Who would you lynch? | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:50 rsoultin wrote: anyone who thinks that we have two nerfed 1-shot blue roles against a scumteam with at least a roleblocker + strongman + miller is not really that familiar with balance or is just not thinking it through? rels and moosy may both be town, but if there's only one it's going to be the full roleblocker every time Another good point | ||
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If he isn't mafia, you probably aren't. And considering Moosy can be town, this puts us in a very good situation. We have a better PoE list with the shining being the best lynch here. | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: The best situation is unlikely which means we’re left with the middle and worst situations. And the worst one is completely possible where scum just all ninja votes EoD. Just kill someone and get this game over with. gg scum wins. Sorry, you make it hard to not lynch you Game is winnable. We just need more effort | ||
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LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off Is there ANYONE who town reads shining? | ||
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On October 06 2015 09:00 rsoultin wrote: gb is making me want to townread him again :/ maybe because he's the only one who i feel is actually reading what i'm writing and listening which if he's scum just means i'm very wrong lol >< but whatever i will lynch shining over moosy...i could be wrong on him and i think the setup suggests at least a full roleblocker i still think sicklucker may be the best lynch, though Well, I finally got the time to play with a little more focus, but I couldn't keep up too much with the game, which makes me be very unsure about things. I don't know about sicklucker? I found very weird that he doesn't believe both claims are real, find weird that Moosy didn't automatically read Rels as Mafia but draws NO conclusion on which one is Mafia. That's really bad | ||
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On October 06 2015 09:06 rsoultin wrote: i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between rels, gb, shining, sl and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@ ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto. I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one. | ||
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On October 06 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote: tbh gb this will be my last game...and if people honestly think i can play this way as scum then it needs to be my last game. but do what you need to Unnecessary. You CAN play like this as scum. The fact that you constantly reevaluated me, well... Makes you look more townie than scum. Don't quit the game. People are just taking it too seriously... You guys need to relax and have some fun Anyway, I'll admit you're town and if you aren't, well played. So Moosy Rels Rayn rsoultin Leaves us Shining Sicklucker LS | ||
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This or one of the claims is fake or I'm wrong with a townread on you or Rayn. Which I don't think I am. Since I believe dead townies were on the right track, we should always lynch the shining first here | ||
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On October 06 2015 17:33 Rels wrote: Plus, there is no way there are 2 roleblockers in the setup. That is not balanced, and everybody thinking that should think about the possible implications. 2 roleblockers means there is the possibility to confirm two people if one mafia is flipped. If on N1 or N2, one mafia is flipped and one roleblocker had to claim cause he was getting lynched or whatever. The two roleblockers uses their block on two targets then: - if one people dies, when the roleblocker claims his blocks, the other should do it too => PAM 4 confirmed townies - if none dies, of course the two roleblockers will claim, believing they blocked KP => PAM one mafia between two people confirmed Hmm But again, a cop and 2 crap 1 shot blues seems weak against a strong man and a Mafia roleblocker AND a Miller... | ||
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On October 06 2015 17:28 Rels wrote: OK. I can't accept all of that, especially together. You need to reread exactly this part where you rescinded your claim. Moosy posted 2 minutes after; he continued reading the thread and answered a post from you that was made 20 minutes after the claim. Now imagine Moosy has already decided to roleblock after your claim. He should be paying extra attention to what you're saying. In fact, he does; the post he did 2 minutes after your claim was a reply to you; and the posts after also talks about you. There is NO way Moosy as roleblocker doesn't notice the rescind. And I'm not arguing it's weird he roleblocked you even after the rescind; that would be understandable. But he claimed he did not know you rescinded your claim to justify the roleblock on you. And, as demonstrated above, that is not possible. Wait, he claimed he RBd me???? Moosy, why is that? | ||
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On October 06 2015 17:51 Rels wrote: GB how could you miss that ? Did you not read the thread yesterday ? I've already admitted I'm not reading the thread properly I'm missing a lot of stuff. Only yesterday night I focused a little more. Does his roleblocks match his read progression? Because I don't remember him scumreading me or LS | ||
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Believing LS is Mafia in this game is completely plausible. I still don't fucking get his can you town read him just because he got angry with you. He has NO OTHER TOWN TRAIT. Not a single original push. Just agreeing with people and voting town. For balancing purposes, 1 shot blues are counted as 0.5 So if you have a Strongman and a Mafia roleblocker, this will make a sum of 2 If you have a cop and a roleblocker, you have a sum of 2. This would be already balanced. But we had a Miller to counter cop. Having more 2 one shot blues would counter balance it. And we don't know all the Mafia roles. And you guys didn't learn the lesson of NOT CONSIDERING THE SETUP when deciding lynches. Just lynch the scummiest. | ||
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Whole name of the whisky. And he crumbed by just using the first letters of French and Oak. "Sup everybody! Currently busy, so I'll have to catch up the rest of the thread later. Finally I can start playing again! Oh, and I've seen *some random bullshit*. Since I'm *random bullshit, maybe you guys *random bullshit. Maybe." There. I've just made a much more reliable breadcrumb. I'm not saying I believe Rels' claim is fake, I'm saying the breadcrumb is bad and you shouldn't use it to believe his claim IMO | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, voting for GlowingBear is the best thing the town can do here. I promise. Then GG and next time you play you should use your brain instead of your ass | ||
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I intentionally risked my credibility just to try to get reads. This may be dumb play and I am far from not agreeing it is, but this surely should show your braindead heads that I'm not Mafia simply because MAFIA HAS NO MOTIVATION TO RISK THEIR CREDIBILITY WHEN THEY CAN WIN THE GAME BY JUST SURVIVING. And if you can't get this through your head by reading this simple statement, nothing will | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well apparently you do believe his claim since you don't wanna lynch him. I believe his claim because I think he is town, not because a shitty breadcrumb convinced me | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except you do braindead stuff as mafia. I never risked my credibility as Mafia unless for the last game where I tried to emulate the "all over the place GB" and it totally screwed me | ||
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This should be very clear for you Rayn | ||
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Two wagons are shining and me. Take your shot. | ||
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Mafia team is one of those that truffle said. GG | ||
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On October 07 2015 02:56 sicklucker wrote: Its a combination of many things. I dont like how the shining wagon formed. either heavy bussing is going on or hes town. rayn and rsoustin are the most likely towns to me in the game currently and want to vote you. Town has to vote together to win so it makes sense for me to follow me on my town reads.... even tho there gonna lynch me tomorrow if you flip mafia lol Now for reasons for you. I feel like you separated yourself from me this entire game. Now not to sound egotistical but in my last two town (and only town games on this site in like a year) I was town battling you as mafia. Both times you were lynched and in those you tried to buddy up to me as well. Makes sense for you to try to be on my side. You seem to be coasting and not reading the thread in a game where mafia is way ahead. Your pushing the world with 4 power roles, I dont know the angle but I have a hard time believing you think its possible. You reads especially on me seem to form conveniently. IM your top town all game (you posted this many times) but when it becomes lylo im in your poe if not your top target. Your not even my first target tbh but town has to consolidate on a wagon and with 3 mafia and 5 town your probably mafia here . You're Mafia with the shining. You had NO need to change to my eagon to consolidate since the shining's wagon would be bigger than now a 3/3 I am definitely not Mafia and you kept talking to me like I wasn't until Rayn came to the thread and said "oh GB is Mafia" without bringing anything new to base his read on me. Same thing with rsoultin who was already saying she was thinking I am top town. | ||
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I usually scumread you regardless of alignment and this is the first time I started believing you're town. Until now that I reevaluated stuff. Yes you were one f my top townies but it's day3 and I have reevaluated people, I've read what truffle said, and I trust him. The setup is completely possible under a balance analysis and I've already explained how does the balance works for some hosts. I've hosted a game with HTS but to me honest I don't remember how does she balance, but I remember how blazinghand balances games and if it isn't how I wrote, it is very similar too. Mafia can easily bus in a LYLO to gain town cred until a town makes a wrong push. And that's totally what is happening right here. | ||
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On October 07 2015 04:34 sicklucker wrote: why would i vote with my scum reads. thats lunacy Why would you, I don't know, NOT VOTE YOUR SCUMREADS AND KEEP SHEEPING PEOPLE? | ||
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WAIT UNTIL THE NIGHT *that won't happen* BEFORE CALLING ONE OF THEM MAFIA") and now here you are voting the shining since the beginning of LYLO and now YOU'RE VOTING ME FOR BULLSHIT REASONS | ||
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It's just RIDICULOUS that people aren't trying at least a little bit close to deadline AT LYLO, it's RIDICULOUS | ||
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On October 07 2015 05:01 sicklucker wrote: theres 2 hours but ya. like if its just me and you around im def going back on shining fishy fishy Bah It is just us GG | ||
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Shining is right with the post he quoted I think we may be hitting town And no this is not a reaction test | ||
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This has been a disaster | ||
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On October 07 2015 06:57 rsoultin wrote: @.@ cause shining turns up 20 mins before EoD? Nah, In lynching shining | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote: gg we win boys WP | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:00 rsoultin wrote: no but i could be scumsiding it's true lol >< Well it was sixklucker after all I've got it right but didn't had the guts to push him | ||
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MY GOD THIS FEELS GOOD | ||
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RELS CONCEDED HAHAHAHA | ||
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Scum conceding like this is not something I'm used to | ||
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WAY FUNNIER, THEN Now I'm gonna listen to some Jamiroquai | ||
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And TRUFFLE, MVP | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:53 rsoultin wrote: #bestcase2015?!?!?! lol more seriously it's nice to go out on a high note thanks everyone. i've enjoyed tl mafia but i care too much about these games and certain people's opinions and it's no longer worth it gj rels in particular and thanks so much for being obv town when we were voting you, gb...it's what kept me on shining despite not being at all sure ciao! Hahahaha! I think I need to be pushed sometimes. Don't go :/ | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah not gonna play another game aswell. i get too mad with people who join games and don't give any fucks about playing. You take people's stuff to seriously, Rayn :/ It's all about having fun. And for the record, I do care about playing and winning, but sometimes making weird plays is simply funnier and it doesn't mean I don't give a fuck about playing | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:57 rsoultin wrote: i'll probably still host tbh Just don't go. And play from times to times I understand what it means to be busy but extremely invested in the game. When I was in my internship my boss called me out for getting my phone and typing too much during work. I just couldn't help it | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:00 Rels wrote: So the game from my mafia perspective: I made a terrible mistake fakeclaiming a roleblocker. I was so sure I could get Moosy lynched I didn't care about future implications; and future implications meant that if my partners were caught, I would be left alive with Moosy and lose 1v1. Since Shining then sicklucker were caught, my mistake backfired hard and we lost. )= We also made a mistake a few hours ago. SL and I adviced The Shining to not say anything; that was while GB was being pushed. If he had entered the thread that moment with angry posts, I'm pretty sure Moosy was the lynch. Talking about the "angry post meta" fucking thing. I really felt we were fucked by that at some point. Like "Damdred is conf town because he's angry" and "LS is conf town because he screams at me" is bullshit meta. Nothing to do to counter that. Even I got townread by rayn because of a stupid rage post. I feel this really needs to stop for mafia to have an even chance to fight; and for this to stop, the players in question needs to improve their scumgames. Finally, blues. Fucking blues. I was so mad at them the moment Moosy claimed roleblocker p: like if Moosy was VT, the game was 100% won. It also was probably won if I didn't idiotly fakeclaimed though. (= Last words, I had a ton of fun playing this game. See you in the next one (= Emotion can be faked and I've seen people catching fake emotions all the time | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote: 100%. Just look, LS immediately townread sicklucker and Shining for that... Yes, and I remember holyflare lynching me when I started making all caps posts | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:09 Half the Sky wrote: Damdred had the entire scumteam nailed as soon as he died via strongman. Good on him. And much agreed with Trfel, he in my eyes was MVP. He lacked thread pull and interestingly enough was more influential through his death because of that. The fact that he died instead of Rels or Rayn pointed out to him being correct in most of his reads. I had to go back and read him again. As I said to rsoultin, truffle is not my acolyte, he is my successor | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't. I don't read your posts when you do stupid stuff jsut for the sake of doing stupid stuff.. It's irritating and doesn't help anyone. It's just stupid if you are town. You were really townie throughout the game, especially on N2. I don't understand why you have to do some dumb reaction tests because it just cannot help in any way, you just get scumread for it. As I said, more than winning, I like to play to have fun and I have fun doing those things because I like to see things happening. I like the debate. It just felt that you simply don't like to play with me rather than thinking I'm doing stupid things. It kinda gets me upset because I do like playing with you. Anyway, there's that. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: well i like winning, so there is that. If i want to have fun i go talk with people in TS/Skype or something. When i play mafia i play mafia. Ok | ||
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1. Everybody talks but nobody listens 2. People scum reads people for reasons that doesn't make them Mafia. Whenever I feel like actually playing I always remember what Iamperfection told me, which is to analyse people through mindsets Town wants to catch Mafia Mafia wants to survive The moment it came to my head I instantly put sicklucker to the lynch list. If people want to play seriously, they have to think about this | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:40 Half the Sky wrote: You said the same thing I did but in 1/3 the words because I'm so bad xD Great minds think alike GB <3 And good on you for remembering some of the things I taught you about hosting, you cited in game, Incidentally you didn't remember some of the most critical parts - if you had, you would have known that four blue roles is NOT possible at all in m13, but you did well enough. If you had your old host qt saved up you would see where I said this in there for Carnaval <3 <3 <3 <3 much love I'll probably read it again soon | ||
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On October 07 2015 18:00 marvellosity wrote: gg wp town GB: your post about listening to others and what have you especially applies to you. You tunnelled coolTLname to the lynch based on nothing and I told you why Damdred was 100% town and you just kept calling him mafia. It was really dull. Day 1 The Shining was the classic of example of free hard townreads on a player for nothing. Listening to others doesn't mean I have to agree with you. People called shining town the same way you called Damdred town. I simply played a lot with Damdred and couldn't agree that he would react like that as town. When I say everybody talks but nobody listens I mean when people start calling everyone Mafia and not considering other people's opinion or not even trying to see their scum reads coming from a town perspective. And although I had a scum read on him I dropped it down several times because of you. And I've dropped a scum read on LS several times when rsoultin and Rayn called him town. And I came back to your filter and truffle's to find your reads. So I don't really know what you're talking about | ||
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On October 07 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote: no, the Shining townreads were quite different. My Damdred read was "he would 100% never do this as mafia, therefore he is 100% town" none of the reads on Shining were like that. edit: my general point was that you are actually quite obstinate yourself :p Like LYNCH HOLYFLARE XD | ||
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On October 07 2015 20:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh jesus that's large when I open the thread on my pc x_x That's what she said | ||
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On October 07 2015 21:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Eh, usually when people go for that they were pushed too far. The line between playing to win as hard as possible and signing up just to have fun is one that's different for everyone. At some point, people break and they'll do so in a different way depending on their alignment. I don't think you can put the blame merely at those who crack. You may play to win, but the goal (in terms of why people sign up) is to have fun. ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/msty.gif) | ||
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On October 08 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: First you start o not care as scum, then you start to not care as town either because people are dumb. Maybe you should stop thinking that high of yourself because although you are clearly a good player you have some awful awful reads from times to times - in a sense that a laid back Marv could see why shining was scum on day one and you simply gave him a town pass. Being logical =\= being smart, although being smart requires being logical. This is not a game just about logic. If you want to play with logic, you should try sudoku | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote: i pointed out many things i appealed to tone i appealed to discrepancies i appealed to logic lol >< i did straight up setup analysis that pretty much proved that moosy's claim of a full roleblocker was more credible for pure balance reasons than rels' 1-shot claim but ^^ i did not say the magic words (whatever those might have been) that would have shown you what i saw, rayn i was hoping that the logic of my case would do ittbf though, rels, i actually was trying to see if maybe i was wrong and your responses were more reasonable than MD's, assuming one of you was the real roleblocker. it wasn't specifically reasons to call you out over him despite being fairly sure that MD's claim was the more credible for tone and setup reasons Dear, you've done great. The big problem here is that your gameplay as town is very similar to your scum play which will always make people be suspicious of you. The setup analysis you've made pointed out for Moosy's claim to be true. Your play here was not pathetic at all. | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:30 rsoultin wrote: lol the big problem is i can replicate my town play as scum better than most, and it makes me harder to trust as well as doesn't leave me much room for having an off town-game like i did at the start i think that in a vacuum without prior knowledge of my scum games, most people would townread me for my play in this game? Answer: yes. And that's why I only care about your alignment when we reach late game. I prefer to cooperate with you. It is just that... This game has got like 100 pages on day one... I don't feel like reading everything. I like to play with you because you can see people's posts through every POV and I think this is a trait very overlooked by players | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:33 rsoultin wrote: thank you though gb <3 you solved the game for me, no joke lol >< i was kinda missing your fire from this game and it was a big reason why i kept swinging back and forth on your alignment. you brought the gb fire lol >< <3 Well, I am traveling and wasn't following the thread very closely after all. But I've made so many plays that couldn't have Mafia motivation behind it that I couldn't believe I was a wagon in LYLO | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:38 Blazinghand wrote: I totally get this and btw I am not condoning pushing people too far, but I actually play to win. Most people, when mafia, do not. For me this means stuff like being willing to lie about IRL stuff, emotions, about moving house, about depression, about feeling alone in the world and giving up on mafia, or even about eating dinner. Most people have lines they're not willing to cross as mafia even though they're willing to cross those lines as town which is understandable but also unfortunate. You can play to win and also play to have fun. I'm getting upset with this because although I do stuff that may seem stupid, they often bring good information to the thread. And when I was really in danger of being lynched I've managed to show I wasn't Mafia. For example, rsoultin caught Rels when I claimed being roleblocker at night. Sicklucker looked most likely scum when he got off of Shining's wafon to join mine. If shining flipped red he was certainly dead in the next day. I am carried in a lot of games, especially when I'm Mafia. ButI manage to have a good win/loss ratio. Usually it's because good players caught good information that I have developed. And that's what people fail to see in those "plays" I do. Maybe NOT doing those plays is better? Maybe. But it is intentionally trolling just to throw the game? No, I'm still playing to win. | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote: eh i was just seeing what happened tbh lol rather mean of me like i didn't think we were going to end up lynching scum if i couldn't convince rayn to lynch either rels or sl, so i was just yolo voting with him since we weren't going to win if we split votes anyway you were so obviously town though with the votes on you that even if i'd willfully tried to scumread you i couldn't xP so woot! you're my spirit man lol ^^ i mean it. we see the same things more than you know; i just don't always give weight to them for various reasons Marry me I thought you could have been voting me just to pressure me lol and it worked. I mean, when I was screaming out of my lungs and nobody was here I thought maybe people are reading it and laughing at me hahaha We have the eyes of chupazi | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:52 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, sometimes doing something stupid by chance will lead to a good result. That doesn't mean it is good to do stupid things. Ok, but what I'm trying to convey is doing stupid stuff doesn't mean a player isn't trying to win Anyone could play the game with simple logic. It just isn't fun. Going for the gr8 plays is way funnier. That's all. | ||
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On October 08 2015 02:58 justanothertownie wrote: Cool. But not going for the great plays will actually win town more games and is the strictly better play. So yes, in a sense you aren't trying to win. At least if you know at that point that what you are doing is stupid. It's not only about you. Maybe you think being retarded is funny but the other people on your team may think differently and THEY might have a lot less fun if they lose because of you. Well, that's their problem, not mine. And it's very very easy to read me when I do those kind of things. Rayn lynched me when I was scum. Rsoultin can easily townread me. Truffle easily townread me. It's all about looking if I had Mafia motivation behind it and the fact is that I had none. And no, if I choose to take a less effective path to win the game doesn't mean I'm not trying to win. That is a stretch of the concept. As I've said, some stupid moves CAN make me be scumread but it also can bring very good information in thread, in a game where information is everything. Anyway, no use discussing this since I'm not willing to change my opinion not will you change yours. It's just a shame people take things so seriously that it influences their emotion. Life is already too serious to take this forum in such depressive way | ||
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But I will try to do in the next game as I already said. I will give it a shot | ||
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On October 08 2015 03:24 Blazinghand wrote: hey guys, let's try to be reasonably nice to each other, yeah? we're all TL mafia people here I am not trying to be an ass to anyone. Sorry if it sounded that way. | ||
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On October 08 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote: I was halfway tempted d2 to claim a red check on GB to see what happened. Great big plays am I right? Well it would make the game very spicy | ||
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