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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 06 2015 00:02 GMT
#4741
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?
I'm adorable.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 06 2015 00:03 GMT
#4742
i’ll try and read through half of d1 sometime tomorrow and then give out who i think are scum from it. have fun in the meantime folks. as a note i didn’t read the last 10 pages or something when i last posted lol.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 06 2015 00:05 GMT
#4743
On October 06 2015 09:00 rsoultin wrote:
gb is making me want to townread him again :/ maybe because he's the only one who i feel is actually reading what i'm writing and listening

which if he's scum just means i'm very wrong lol >< but whatever

i will lynch shining over moosy...i could be wrong on him and i think the setup suggests at least a full roleblocker

i still think sicklucker may be the best lynch, though


Well, I finally got the time to play with a little more focus, but I couldn't keep up too much with the game, which makes me be very unsure about things.

I don't know about sicklucker? I found very weird that he doesn't believe both claims are real, find weird that Moosy didn't automatically read Rels as Mafia but draws NO conclusion on which one is Mafia. That's really bad
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:06 GMT
#4744
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?


i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between

rels, gb, shining, sl

and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@

ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:08 GMT
#4745
like legitimately i could be wrong in my setup analysis but i kinda feel like if i am it's a bastard game (sorry hts!, if that's true) anyway. so i'm going with the notion that the game is balanced properly
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 06 2015 00:08 GMT
#4746
On October 06 2015 09:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?


i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between

rels, gb, shining, sl

and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@

ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia


To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto.

I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 06 2015 00:09 GMT
#4747
But if Rels is really a 1 shot roleblocker you are wrong with someone else since I'm town.

I'm gonna sleep now
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:10 GMT
#4748
On October 06 2015 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 09:06 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?


i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between

rels, gb, shining, sl

and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@

ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia


To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto.

I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one.


tbh gb this will be my last game...and if people honestly think i can play this way as scum then it needs to be my last game. but do what you need to
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 06 2015 00:11 GMT
#4749
On October 06 2015 09:09 GlowingBear wrote:
But if Rels is really a 1 shot roleblocker you are wrong with someone else since I'm town.

I'm gonna sleep now


well, of the two claims his is the least credible. i just don't want to rule out the possibility that he's town based on "there can't be two town roleblockers" after what happened with the cop and tracker
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 06 2015 00:21 GMT
#4750
On October 06 2015 09:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 09:00 rsoultin wrote:
gb is making me want to townread him again :/ maybe because he's the only one who i feel is actually reading what i'm writing and listening

which if he's scum just means i'm very wrong lol >< but whatever

i will lynch shining over moosy...i could be wrong on him and i think the setup suggests at least a full roleblocker

i still think sicklucker may be the best lynch, though


Well, I finally got the time to play with a little more focus, but I couldn't keep up too much with the game, which makes me be very unsure about things.

I don't know about sicklucker? I found very weird that he doesn't believe both claims are real, find weird that Moosy didn't automatically read Rels as Mafia but draws NO conclusion on which one is Mafia. That's really bad


LOLLOLOL? THERES NOT 4 POWER ROLES IN A 13ER
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 06 2015 00:22 GMT
#4751
On October 06 2015 09:08 rsoultin wrote:
like legitimately i could be wrong in my setup analysis but i kinda feel like if i am it's a bastard game (sorry hts!, if that's true) anyway. so i'm going with the notion that the game is balanced properly


you believe the bullshit too?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 06 2015 00:23 GMT
#4752
anyway I have something that will save the game for town but ill wait till torm when everyones in the thread
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 06 2015 01:25 GMT
#4753
I just got back from Pokemon TCG and saw GB doing another reactionary test on Rayn. I honestly finding him thinking I gave a excuse to fuck off kinda funny because he should know that on Mondays I actually do go to a Pokemon TCG thing from 6-8 but I leave at 5:30 and get home by 8:30 so ya just found it amusing. Also I wouldn't mind a Shining lynch myself if we need to go for a safe lynch.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 06 2015 02:16 GMT
#4754
On October 06 2015 10:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got back from Pokemon TCG and saw GB doing another reactionary test on Rayn. I honestly finding him thinking I gave a excuse to fuck off kinda funny because he should know that on Mondays I actually do go to a Pokemon TCG thing from 6-8 but I leave at 5:30 and get home by 8:30 so ya just found it amusing. Also I wouldn't mind a Shining lynch myself if we need to go for a safe lynch.


theres no such thing as a safe lynch man. you either lose or lynch mafia. Ls you around?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 06 2015 02:30 GMT
#4755
I here but I think the majority of us think Shining is scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 06 2015 03:08 GMT
#4756
huh.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 06 2015 08:21 GMT
#4757
On October 06 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 06 2015 09:06 rsoultin wrote:
On October 06 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
The problem is that I'm thorn apart deciding wether shining is really Mafia or not

LS has being so hard, too. He has no thread presence AT ALL. He AGAIN gave an excuse to just fuck off

Is there ANYONE who town reads shining?


i did/kinda do? i feel like this looked like his town play, but the thing is...i've decided to be obstinate and go with moosy's role is confirmed by setup which means there's only one town player left between

rels, gb, shining, sl

and i'm willing to entertain the notion that it's possible we have two roleblockers here, even, or i'd be pushing hard for a rels lynch @.@

ls is not mafia btw; the way he blew up at rayn he is never mafia


To be fair, the only person I need to have a sure read in this game is you, and this game will be auto.

I will try to read your filter tomorrow. But God you have a large one.


tbh gb this will be my last game...and if people honestly think i can play this way as scum then it needs to be my last game. but do what you need to


Unnecessary.

You CAN play like this as scum.

The fact that you constantly reevaluated me, well... Makes you look more townie than scum.

Don't quit the game. People are just taking it too seriously... You guys need to relax and have some fun

Anyway, I'll admit you're town and if you aren't, well played.

So

Moosy
Rels

Rayn
rsoultin

Leaves us

Shining
Sicklucker
LS
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 06 2015 08:26 GMT
#4758
See, dear, LS is on the list and I'm pretty okay with him being Mafia.

This or one of the claims is fake or I'm wrong with a townread on you or Rayn. Which I don't think I am.

Since I believe dead townies were on the right track, we should always lynch the shining first here
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 06 2015 08:28 GMT
#4759
On October 06 2015 06:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 06:17 Rels wrote:
LOL at all the people even entertaining the idea that Moosy's claim is true. Less lol at rsoultin and sicklucker doing it. Why doesn't one of you become townie already )=

I'll copy what I said earlier:

1. Moosy claimed he didn't read GB's rescinding his claim; that is extremely unlikely
On October 06 2015 00:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 06 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he said his claim is not real on N1...

Well, I didn't read his claim until it was too late.

This is a straight lie. GB rescinded his claim on N1 5h30 before deadline:
On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:18 sicklucker wrote:
Guys gb is are roleblocker


I'm not, I was just upset and made that up

Moosy posted in the thread only 2 MINUTES later, ironically replying to GB he's not reading the thread:
On October 02 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.


That's one of the most stupid conclusion ANYONE can get to. NOBODY busses a team mate when there is a counter claim in the thread. Mafia will take the chance to lynch the blue 100% of the times and you should KNOW I think of it this way because I was against your bus on cake last game we played together.

The fact that you're fitting this scum team to your agenda instead of thinking about facts reasonably makes me see you more scummy than ever.

i mean, the situations are completely different since in our game there was no alternative blue lynch and coolTLname is pretty much dead fish in the water. makes no sense to not bus tbh. you buy townie credit by pushing on coolTLname as well.


You're saying that I prefered to lynch my team mate instead of going against the counter claimed blue that I KNOW is blue because I, as Mafia, have perfect information. You're saying that I'd rather get town cred for lynching my scum mate when I don't need town cred to survive instead of lynching the blue without compromising myself by doing it.

This makes no sense at all.

Also, you came back just to say 3 people looked worse, one of them being the guy under suspicion by me and Rayn (LS). So I'm double bussing here when I agree that LS could be scum?

Also, you threw 3 suspicions but you simply assume cool TL is Mafia without arguing he should be the lynch. These will sum up to 4 Mafia, and the one you are pretty sure is Mafia (because you are pretty sure
I'm BUSSING) is someone you didn't talk about lately.

Also, if I am bussing, don't you agree you should be lynching Cool TL to prove your theory? Wouldn't this be a win/win situation?

Someone isn't reading the thread.

He then continued to talk to GB, and actually replied to something GB said 20 MINUTES after the claim rescind:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

On October 02 2015 02:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?


Ok, maybe I was angry and focused on the wrong thing, but you do see the problem in your thought process?

Ive bolded what I thought was stupid, not the whole post

No, I don't really see what's wrong. You could have just killed scott during Night and buy town cred from coolTL.

So Moosy is straigth up lying about not seeing GB rescinding his claim.

2. Moosy doesn't know roleblocker can block KP
On October 06 2015 00:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So does anyone want to give me some coaching advice on what the point of a town roleblocker is? I guess it's helpful against the Mafia framer? But then my reason for existing kind of died when Damdred claimed.

Well, if he had bothered to read the OP, he would have seen that KP are roleblockable. There is no way a roleblocker does not bother reading his role. (=

And we can add:
3. He knows I'm blue, and didn't try to call me mafia.

4. If you think there is the possibility he's right, you think there is the possibility I'm fakeclaiming
So you would think that I had a 1 shot roleblocker breadcrumbed in my first post just in case this exact situation happens.


1. He skips posts a lot of times. He could genuinely skipped my post

2. He may really not have read his role. I don't know what levels stupidity can reach

3. We don't know how many roles Mafia has. We already know Mafia has a roleblocker and a strongman AND a Miller was in the game. Two power roles and two lesser roles may be a possibility

4. See above

OK. I can't accept all of that, especially together. You need to reread exactly this part where you rescinded your claim. Moosy posted 2 minutes after; he continued reading the thread and answered a post from you that was made 20 minutes after the claim.
Now imagine Moosy has already decided to roleblock after your claim. He should be paying extra attention to what you're saying. In fact, he does; the post he did 2 minutes after your claim was a reply to you; and the posts after also talks about you. There is NO way Moosy as roleblocker doesn't notice the rescind. And I'm not arguing it's weird he roleblocked you even after the rescind; that would be understandable.
But he claimed he did not know you rescinded your claim to justify the roleblock on you. And, as demonstrated above, that is not possible.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 06 2015 08:33 GMT
#4760
Plus, there is no way there are 2 roleblockers in the setup. That is not balanced, and everybody thinking that should think about the possible implications.
2 roleblockers means there is the possibility to confirm two people if one mafia is flipped. If on N1 or N2, one mafia is flipped and one roleblocker had to claim cause he was getting lynched or whatever. The two roleblockers uses their block on two targets then:
- if one people dies, when the roleblocker claims his blocks, the other should do it too => PAM 4 confirmed townies
- if none dies, of course the two roleblockers will claim, believing they blocked KP => PAM one mafia between two people confirmed
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