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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 03 2015 16:55 GMT
#3581
On October 04 2015 01:53 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:50 Trfel wrote:
I'm going to lynch The Shining with whoever wants to lynch scum, then.

Rels is actually working with me, so he gets a pass for today. Even if he's mafia, he's much more enjoyable to play with than some of these other people, and he does give the impression that he's actually trying to solve the game (even if he gives this impression as scum as well, though I didn't read his scum game).

I'll look at MoosyDoosy after.

Well here is his scum game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Rels
Thanks, I didn't realize that the database existed and that I could use filters myself

I also didn't realize that I could just use Rels' profile to find his most recent game easily, never done that before

Simply put, I don't care about anything other than The Shining right now. I might start caring later.

It was from my last game that why I was able to get it so fast.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 03 2015 16:55 GMT
#3582
Your wrong about shining I think.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 03 2015 16:56 GMT
#3583
anyway i'm playing a game

back later xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 03 2015 16:56 GMT
#3584
On October 04 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Your wrong about shining I think.
Oh, I see now. Thanks, I'll make sure to lynch someone else.

............

Why?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 03 2015 16:57 GMT
#3585
On October 04 2015 01:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?

As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly.

No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it.
I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me...

My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was?

I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining

He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine.
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.


I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.

So you were ignoring me ?

When someone is misreading what both me and sicklucker said obviously I'm correcting you. And when you're clearly not reading our discussion properly then there's no reason for me to point it out until you go back and read it properly.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 03 2015 16:58 GMT
#3586
I've explained this 10 times, its all about emotion in posts that he can't fake. Or how he approaches the game. You might say that hes only focused on cool but its not just been today that hes focused on him he was one of the first that called him out and tried to lead a lynch on him.

As scum hes much more back ground and only hops on already moving train, can't get any emotion up in game and is a lot more mechanical with how he posts.

Hes really towny this game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 03 2015 17:00 GMT
#3587
On October 04 2015 01:58 Damdred wrote:
I've explained this 10 times, its all about emotion in posts that he can't fake. Or how he approaches the game. You might say that hes only focused on cool but its not just been today that hes focused on him he was one of the first that called him out and tried to lead a lynch on him.

As scum hes much more back ground and only hops on already moving train, can't get any emotion up in game and is a lot more mechanical with how he posts.

Hes really towny this game.
You're sure of this because of his one scum game he played so long ago?

Also, I don't really notice any emotion from his filter except for emotion relating to out-of-game stuff. I see no reason that he couldn't apply true emotions from out of the game and just talk about them in the game?

I'm terrible at showing emotion as mafia. However, I know that it's really easy to do when it's true emotion caused by something other than the game. Or caused by a different source than what I say it is.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 03 2015 17:07 GMT
#3588
On October 03 2015 20:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you...


no he really kind of wasn't

he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that

like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol

Let's assume this is true for a moment.
Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good".

Because i can't think of a reason, except for one...


lol you were too busy tunneling me d1 to notice that i completely thought people jumping on my wagon could be scum. i even pushed rels for it then, after which he backed off, defaulted to cool and pissed off so eh

and i was pushing you for it because you kept saying you wanted to push me cause marv was "sure" when he'd said maybe i could be town and stopped pushing prior to

obviously i thought scum was taking advantage, or very likely to? and i didn't like rels just dropping his scumread on truffle to sheep marv while saying truffle and i couldn't be scum together it was meh to me. don't you remember this at all? xP

And I'm scumread for it? cool
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 03 2015 17:14 GMT
#3589
On October 04 2015 02:00 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:58 Damdred wrote:
I've explained this 10 times, its all about emotion in posts that he can't fake. Or how he approaches the game. You might say that hes only focused on cool but its not just been today that hes focused on him he was one of the first that called him out and tried to lead a lynch on him.

As scum hes much more back ground and only hops on already moving train, can't get any emotion up in game and is a lot more mechanical with how he posts.

Hes really towny this game.
You're sure of this because of his one scum game he played so long ago?

Also, I don't really notice any emotion from his filter except for emotion relating to out-of-game stuff. I see no reason that he couldn't apply true emotions from out of the game and just talk about them in the game?

I'm terrible at showing emotion as mafia. However, I know that it's really easy to do when it's true emotion caused by something other than the game. Or caused by a different source than what I say it is.


shining comes from the same site damdy and i used to play on. why do you think i'm putting weight on damdy's read? lol...well other than damdy's actually a good player, anyway
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 03 2015 17:15 GMT
#3590
On October 04 2015 02:00 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:58 Damdred wrote:
I've explained this 10 times, its all about emotion in posts that he can't fake. Or how he approaches the game. You might say that hes only focused on cool but its not just been today that hes focused on him he was one of the first that called him out and tried to lead a lynch on him.

As scum hes much more back ground and only hops on already moving train, can't get any emotion up in game and is a lot more mechanical with how he posts.

Hes really towny this game.
You're sure of this because of his one scum game he played so long ago?

Also, I don't really notice any emotion from his filter except for emotion relating to out-of-game stuff. I see no reason that he couldn't apply true emotions from out of the game and just talk about them in the game?

I'm terrible at showing emotion as mafia. However, I know that it's really easy to do when it's true emotion caused by something other than the game. Or caused by a different source than what I say it is.


Shining and I have played on other sites together for years so no its not just one scum game here.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 03 2015 17:21 GMT
#3591
****, just lost my post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 03 2015 17:22 GMT
#3592
On October 03 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?


DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia

how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'

This is actually one of the reasons that I scum read Rels in my argument with him which he somehow didn't pick up on. He's very less invested in following the people he thinks are scum. He's already questioned me then acceded and went away. Very uncharacteristic of him when he normally tunnels harder than rayn.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 03 2015 17:23 GMT
#3593
Rsoultin, do you really expect The Shining to make the posts towards LightningStrike that he does early in the game?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:25 GMT
#3594
On October 04 2015 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:53 Trfel wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:50 Trfel wrote:
I'm going to lynch The Shining with whoever wants to lynch scum, then.

Rels is actually working with me, so he gets a pass for today. Even if he's mafia, he's much more enjoyable to play with than some of these other people, and he does give the impression that he's actually trying to solve the game (even if he gives this impression as scum as well, though I didn't read his scum game).

I'll look at MoosyDoosy after.

Well here is his scum game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Rels
Thanks, I didn't realize that the database existed and that I could use filters myself

I also didn't realize that I could just use Rels' profile to find his most recent game easily, never done that before

Simply put, I don't care about anything other than The Shining right now. I might start caring later.

It was from my last game that why I was able to get it so fast.

:D
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 03 2015 17:26 GMT
#3595
You know truffle, I'll just lynch the Shining with you
##unvote
##vote: the shining
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:27 GMT
#3596
On October 04 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:50 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?

As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly.

No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it.
I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me...

My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was?

I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining

He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine.
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.


I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.

So you were ignoring me ?

When someone is misreading what both me and sicklucker said obviously I'm correcting you. And when you're clearly not reading our discussion properly then there's no reason for me to point it out until you go back and read it properly.

OK. This is going to be settled when I get to a computer IE tomorrow. Because I'm pretty sure it does not make any sense. And the fact that you are not answering a simple yes / no question is reassuring me in that direction
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 03 2015 17:29 GMT
#3597
On October 04 2015 02:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:50 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?

As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly.

No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it.
I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me...

My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was?

I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining

He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine.
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.


I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.

So you were ignoring me ?

When someone is misreading what both me and sicklucker said obviously I'm correcting you. And when you're clearly not reading our discussion properly then there's no reason for me to point it out until you go back and read it properly.

OK. This is going to be settled when I get to a computer IE tomorrow. Because I'm pretty sure it does not make any sense. And the fact that you are not answering a simple yes / no question is reassuring me in that direction

cool. You go ahead and do what I've been trying to make you do this whole time lol.

Go back and read our argument and check:
- the points I made that you were scum against you (they amount to more than 1 unlike what you say)
- how there is literally no way that I can think you're townreading me when you're screaming about how my behavior was scummy
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:30 GMT
#3598
On October 04 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?


DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia

how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'

This is actually one of the reasons that I scum read Rels in my argument with him which he somehow didn't pick up on. He's very less invested in following the people he thinks are scum. He's already questioned me then acceded and went away. Very uncharacteristic of him when he normally tunnels harder than rayn.

Another lie. I did pick it up. I said that I had nothing to comment on because it was true. With me re evaluating rsoultin then leaving work then being unavailable to play until deadline d1, I didn't have time to do that. I will find the post to prove that.
Me picking on one inconsistent part of your read is different from me not acknowledging other parts of your read
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 03 2015 17:32 GMT
#3599
Shut up and vote the shining
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:33 GMT
#3600
On October 02 2015 05:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????

I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.

Your point on me is true, so I can't say anything about that. But if you think coolTLname is scum, this GB's read is retarded. He was trying to get people to lynch coolTLname over scott! If he was mafia he would shut up and let things happen

Gotta go find somethimg else to lie about now.
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