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If you think Trfel is town, why is me suspecting shining at the same level as moosy is suspicious for you, when Trfel thinks shining is mafia ?
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On October 03 2015 21:25 rsoultin wrote:
like you can insist that i should never have suspected him in the first place, but honestly the same could be said for him. the reverse is true, is it not? if he's town and i'm scum shouldn't scum be piling on him? including me? yet he suspected me anyway
so unless you think we're both scum, the only conclusion that you can draw from this is that it does not make a player scum because they didn't consider that at some point in the game ^^ and instead focused on other things Thanks for that. I really appreciate it.
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On October 04 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 00:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
first thing I come back, I see rsoultin is reading me as scum with terrible reasons which I already explained. lol. they're quite good actually. if the lynch was always between townies d1, which i believe it was, then people who aren't getting involved and are off doing their own thing are way more likely to be scum than those actually in the mix i also don't see why town wouldn't be discussing the current wagons if they didn't like them. basically you seemed like you were spinning your wheels there are some other reasons but if we're going to just auto-lynch cool today i'll wait to get into them until later for one, if cool is scum (or even town, really) you accusing him of TMI indicates a STRONG townread on me, which doesn't line up with the spinning your wheels thing that i mentioned above
ok. I already said:
A. the reason why I was sitting off to the side was because I was confused about your read switch on marv and marv/rayn was pressuring you anyway.
B. after you explained your read switch, I already said I was satisfied pretty much over a dozen times AND I also said that was the reason why I thought that coolTL had TMI on you. It's only AFTER scott was lynched and you STILL didn't do anything that my town read gradually deteriorates.
I really doubt you read the thread.
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On October 04 2015 01:27 Rels wrote:
If you think Trfel is town, why is me suspecting shining at the same level as moosy is suspicious for you, when Trfel thinks shining is mafia ?
That doesn't make sense. You quoted damdred s read of shining to counter me; but you omitted to talk about "confirmed town" Trfel's one
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Hm, I think that rsoultin is mafia.
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:p
I'm on a train so I will have phase where I don't have internet anymore. And there will be phase where I'm reading a book :p
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On October 04 2015 01:20 GlowingBear wrote:I suspect everyone in the game, there are just people I suspect less, and that's the case of Rayn. It just crossed my mind that he dismissed further discussion with you just by saying "I don't argue with scum". I would be very annoyed if he did that to me and you don't look that annoyed. But I'm not reading the discussion between you two. I just want the flip, although I'm considering lynching Moosy instead.
ah, yeah. me getting annoyed with him just shits up the thread. if you do read my posts you'll notice they're not completely without annoyance towards him lol ><
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On October 03 2015 18:18 Rels wrote:OK Trfel. Please follow me. I made this post about Moosy's suspicions of GB: Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. Then I realized: Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:ACTUALLY On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID Now I realize someone can think I am scumreading Moosy for not being here at EOD with this post. But I am not: I have never said that, and I have explained multiple times this didn't do anything for Moosy's alignement: + Show Spoiler +On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:ACTUALLY On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time. I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:ACTUALLY On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time. I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early? WTF you might want to reread what I wrote Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch" Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" Got it ? On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time. I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early? WTF you might want to reread what I wrote Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch" Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" Got it ? Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy". When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum. I never said this makes GB scummy. I also said you might want to reread what I wrote. So you might want to reread what I wrote Because I said the opposite hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this. It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours On October 02 2015 05:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early? WTF you might want to reread what I wrote Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch" Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" Got it ? Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy". When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum. I never said this makes GB scummy. I also said you might want to reread what I wrote. So you might want to reread what I wrote Because I said the opposite hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this. It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours "It's not super important?" So you scum read me for it, then brush it aside once I explain it away? ok. yes it is not super important I explained what GB would have done if he was mafia: shut up and wait for deadline Then I realized you did exactly that, so I was excited But it doesn't mean anything since you could just be busy On October 03 2015 00:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So: A. he's not reading the thread clearly B. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. you're lying I never said you not being here at EOD was scum indicative. I said GB being here at EOD and not switching was town indicative because he would have shut up at EOD; then remarked it was ironic since you did exactly that. I'm attacking you on two things: - your GB's EOD analysis is bullshit - you lied about being the first to vote and push coolTLname Now the problem I have with you as scum is that you would be busing coolTLname D1, which I don't think is likely. Hence why I'm not sure about you. I am scumreading Moosy for other reasons, but it's unrelated to this. Now Moosy made this post: Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. I thought the bolded refered to me thinking him not being here at EOD was scum indicative. - If that's the case, Moosy is clearly mis interpreting my scumread on him - If that's not the case, I have no idea what he is talking about and this could be a lie He said it was not the case, but didn't precise: Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Question 1 What do you think Moosy was talking about, if it's not the fact that I thought him not being here at deadline is scum indicative ? Since then I've asked the questions to Moosy each time I saw him in the thread, and he never answered. + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Can you answer my request I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT Yes or no ? If no, what is it pointing at ? AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then On October 03 2015 02:14 Rels wrote:is one hour not enough to answer this ? Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Can you answer my request I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT Yes or no ? If no, what is it pointing at ? AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott. On October 03 2015 03:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott. that would make sense Can you answer my request ? I think it's scum indicative. Do you ?
...lol.
ok. you participated in that discussion with me. it was you and me talking with each other. i say i said you were scummy for more than one thing. you're claiming i only said you were scummy for your screaming post about me acting strange. (btw, if you scream like that it shows that you're excited which means it's a scumread, so expecting me to read it as the opposite is pretty stupid). i think I know what i'm saying. If you disagree, go back and read the discussion again lol. Point A is that you're not reading the thread clearly. And you clearly haven't since you only drew one thing from it, which is incidentally, you expecting me to make a nonsensical conclusion that you read me as town when you scream that my behavior was scummy.
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On October 04 2015 01:32 Trfel wrote:Hm, I think that rsoultin is mafia.
lol you're an ass ><
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Rsoultin, lynch The Shining with me?
Or was I being really stupid last night?
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On October 04 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 18:18 Rels wrote:OK Trfel. Please follow me. I made this post about Moosy's suspicions of GB: On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. Then I realized: On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:ACTUALLY On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID Now I realize someone can think I am scumreading Moosy for not being here at EOD with this post. But I am not: I have never said that, and I have explained multiple times this didn't do anything for Moosy's alignement: + Show Spoiler +On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:ACTUALLY On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time. I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:ACTUALLY On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.
Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.
LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.
I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time. I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early? WTF you might want to reread what I wrote Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch" Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" Got it ? On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time. I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early? WTF you might want to reread what I wrote Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch" Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" Got it ? Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy". When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum. I never said this makes GB scummy. I also said you might want to reread what I wrote. So you might want to reread what I wrote Because I said the opposite hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this. It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours On October 02 2015 05:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early? WTF you might want to reread what I wrote Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch" Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID" Got it ? Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy". When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum. I never said this makes GB scummy. I also said you might want to reread what I wrote. So you might want to reread what I wrote Because I said the opposite hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this. It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours "It's not super important?" So you scum read me for it, then brush it aside once I explain it away? ok. yes it is not super important I explained what GB would have done if he was mafia: shut up and wait for deadline Then I realized you did exactly that, so I was excited But it doesn't mean anything since you could just be busy On October 03 2015 00:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So: A. he's not reading the thread clearly B. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. you're lying I never said you not being here at EOD was scum indicative. I said GB being here at EOD and not switching was town indicative because he would have shut up at EOD; then remarked it was ironic since you did exactly that. I'm attacking you on two things: - your GB's EOD analysis is bullshit - you lied about being the first to vote and push coolTLname Now the problem I have with you as scum is that you would be busing coolTLname D1, which I don't think is likely. Hence why I'm not sure about you. I am scumreading Moosy for other reasons, but it's unrelated to this. Now Moosy made this post: On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. I thought the bolded refered to me thinking him not being here at EOD was scum indicative. - If that's the case, Moosy is clearly mis interpreting my scumread on him - If that's not the case, I have no idea what he is talking about and this could be a lie He said it was not the case, but didn't precise: On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Question 1 What do you think Moosy was talking about, if it's not the fact that I thought him not being here at deadline is scum indicative ? Since then I've asked the questions to Moosy each time I saw him in the thread, and he never answered. + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Can you answer my request I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT Yes or no ? If no, what is it pointing at ? AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then On October 03 2015 02:14 Rels wrote:is one hour not enough to answer this ? Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:
- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.
Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?
I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it. lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearlyB. lack of focus on his scum reads I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not. What were you talking about then ? lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check. Can you answer my request I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT Yes or no ? If no, what is it pointing at ? AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott. On October 03 2015 03:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott. that would make sense Can you answer my request ? I think it's scum indicative. Do you ? ...lol. ok. you participated in that discussion with me. it was you and me talking with each other. i say i said you were scummy for more than one thing. you're claiming i only said you were scummy for your screaming post about me acting strange. (btw, if you scream like that it shows that you're excited which means it's a scumread, so expecting me to read it as the opposite is pretty stupid). i think I know what i'm saying. If you disagree, go back and read the discussion again lol. Point A is that you're not reading the thread clearly. And you clearly haven't since you only drew one thing from it, which is incidentally, you expecting me to make a nonsensical conclusion that you read me as town when you scream that my behavior was scummy.
So part of the reason you scumread me is that you think I partly scumread you based on the fact you were absent at eod. That doesn't make sense, especially since ive explained multiple times why I never scumread you based on that.
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On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?
As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly. No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it. I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him  He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me... My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was? I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine. Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.
I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.
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On October 04 2015 01:40 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, lynch The Shining with me?
Or was I being really stupid last night?
Sshhh be quiet about that
You better say fast that you scumread moosy more or you will be in big trouble
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On October 04 2015 01:40 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, lynch The Shining with me?
Or was I being really stupid last night?
i think he's town honestly :/ damdy knows him better than me and damdy thinks he's town
i don't mind a second wagon on moosy or rels though if you're in the mood for those
don't really think cool is town
you don't think his hard-defending me or him saying he found scott suspicious when the only mention of scott's slot in his filter was a townread on j roc?
i mean he was reading rayn scum and scott was who rayn was pushing practically all day when he wasn't growling at me
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On October 04 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 01:40 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, lynch The Shining with me?
Or was I being really stupid last night? Sshhh be quiet about that You better say fast that you scumread moosy more or you will be in big trouble
-flicks-
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Hey guys I'm back home from my 8:00-11:00 class! I sorry I wasn't posting before class but I honestly was tired as fuck :\ Anyways I caught up already and I assuming we still talking about possible lynches instead of cool?
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I'm going to lynch The Shining with whoever wants to lynch scum, then.
Rels is actually working with me, so he gets a pass for today. Even if he's mafia, he's much more enjoyable to play with than some of these other people, and he does give the impression that he's actually trying to solve the game (even if he gives this impression as scum as well, though I didn't read his scum game).
I'll look at MoosyDoosy after.
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On October 04 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?
As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly. No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it. I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me... My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was? I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine. On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott. I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.
So you were ignoring me ?
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On October 04 2015 01:50 Trfel wrote:
I'm going to lynch The Shining with whoever wants to lynch scum, then.
Rels is actually working with me, so he gets a pass for today. Even if he's mafia, he's much more enjoyable to play with than some of these other people, and he does give the impression that he's actually trying to solve the game (even if he gives this impression as scum as well, though I didn't read his scum game).
I'll look at MoosyDoosy after.
Well here is his scum game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Rels
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On October 04 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 01:50 Trfel wrote:
I'm going to lynch The Shining with whoever wants to lynch scum, then.
Rels is actually working with me, so he gets a pass for today. Even if he's mafia, he's much more enjoyable to play with than some of these other people, and he does give the impression that he's actually trying to solve the game (even if he gives this impression as scum as well, though I didn't read his scum game).
I'll look at MoosyDoosy after. Well here is his scum game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Rels Thanks, I didn't realize that the database existed and that I could use filters myself
I also didn't realize that I could just use Rels' profile to find his most recent game easily, never done that before
Simply put, I don't care about anything other than The Shining right now. I might start caring later.
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