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On October 02 2015 12:06 coolTLname wrote:
feel free to ask any questions
so where do you stand after drastically changing your reads?
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i'll have questions after my read-through
:/ still depressing y'all want to scumread me for my methods without being curious what they actually are lol
so i'll just lay them out for you guys and maybe that'll help you understand why i fluctuated as much as i did and am being really neutral right now
day ones i try to get townreads off general personality (tone/meta) type reads...if i can get a scumread off that (i.e. someone is behaving really outside the norm) i'll latch onto it like a bulldog but that doesn't always happen. sometimes it's just little doubts here and there and a collection of people i don't want to lynch
night one is usually the time for vca...i do mine differently than others on the site do. it works to some extent even with town flips. essentially i go through everyone's filters and see their read progressions and how they line up with their voting, add that in to context and what i know of them and shake out a reads list, but more importantly a ranking from there
^ this is what i haven't been able to do yet and i don't think a bunch of reads based on personality from d1 and general impressions/faulty memory 147 pages in will really do anyone any good. it will come tomorrow evening and i'm hoping to find some yummy things there ^^
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i still think GB is maf , same reasons as before.
i honestly havent had the energy or time (defending myself) to read other people.
i believe trfels story
i dont agree with this guy
On September 30 2015 12:05 sicklucker wrote:
shining is so town it hurts. never seen him post before let alone a post that big when he bizzy
i suspect shining. shouldnt u think the opposite? or at least 50-50
Im gnona find whoever posted the role hunting 101 thing and anaylze him,
And the voting thread, i suppose it was odd the votes were tied 4-4 and that makes my hard claim of rsoultin look bad but i had many reasons , like rsoultin not voting trfel , being very actively reading , and even looked up her past 2 games where she was just flirty and not useful as mafia.
and the ppl i suspected, GB and rayn were voting AND they were just very silent, like they felt very relaxed and didn't care. Anyway like i said i eliminated rayn so that leaves GB. I read that GB usually posts like a crack addict, but he doesnt done anything, YET hes clearly been .. here the whole time. the way he voted and his poor conclusions and reads make me suspect him. And shortly after he received 3 votes a HUGE train came upon me of like 7 ppl.
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he even claimed roleblocker night 1 , btw. And damdred is roleblocked all of a sudden.
so i guess my onnly real read is GB right now. And whoever said i was role hunting 101 with the "can medics heal themselves" question is my #2 suspect
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because mafia would be thinking.. Hey is this guy actually the medic?? so they would notice that post
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On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote:
because mafia would be thinking.. Hey is this guy actually the medic?? so they would notice that post
hn, while i agree that mafia would likely key in on this post, do you think they'd post something in thread to let you know they were doing that?
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well he posted it to accuse me of role hunting , which is benefit to mafia if im lynched. if so its def A mistake though, i agree
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On September 29 2015 07:32 GlowingBear wrote:Hi rayn! You look scummy Let's talk
so they never talked in thread after this comment, because they can just talk to each other as mafia buddies
On September 29 2015 17:54 GlowingBear wrote:
- Here is my problem with Damdred:
He has an opening requesting a town friend. For me, it looked like a simple post, nothing into it. Truffle asked a question and he answered like it was some kind of bait (mafia would be scared to hard align with him? Lol)
Ok, then I asked what he got out of his bait, more than once. He never answered it directly. He has yet to explain WHAT the bait was and WHAT READS he got from it. He avoids answering this. He actually avoids any kind of question/pressuring, which is usually damdy's scum trait
- My problem with truffle is:
He came to the game really try hard - but his quearions are off. They usually don't have follow ups and I've caught him asking questions just to ask. For example, he asked a question to Damdred "why didn't you put 'town' as a requisition to be your friend?". Damdred answer, truffle never followed up. When I asked what truffle was expecting with that question he said he had no idea. When I asked what he got, he said nothing. Well, why did he ask the question then? I mean, I will usually ask things to further investigate someone's alignment and the answer provided will make me more certain of a read or uncertain. It doesn't seems that truffle was really caring to clarify something or to unveil Damdred's alignment. It just sounded like he wanted to look he was trying to produce content, which looks scummy
God isnt that really fucking hard to read? It's like he doesnt even care if someone reads it or if it contributes. Unconscious MAFIA tell
On September 30 2015 18:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is where I'm at:
Rels
Sicklucker
Scott
Rsoultin
Rayn
LS
Marv
TheShining
Moosy
CoolTL
Damdred
Truffle
Also he has a town read on rels and sicklurker yet TRUFFLE is super mafia scum? @_@
On October 01 2015 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:11 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy you only had marv going against you about a thing you call a misphrase. I am going against you because you haven't clarified the bait thing yet.
This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia. @GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ? Hi I've played with Damdred a lot of times and it's not really meta. It's just I have seen Mafia damdred dismissing pushes on him. The emotional damded I have seen is the "aw, I don't like this game" instead of "fuck you fuck you all" Damdred is (was) one of the kindest people I have played with. I don't seem him doing this genuinely
Isnt this just a flat out lie ? I've heard from other people in this thread this is not the case.
On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.
Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny
and like walks
Please apply for my townfriend i have a good voice, maybe? i might be funny. i enjoy walks. enough? Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?
On September 29 2015 23:10 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gotta go buy some beer for sauna, be back in ~15. This is the weirdest sentence I have read in a while
Hes noticed weird things about Rayn and even calls him scummy, yet he doesn't think hes scum at all and openly agrees with him on votes , etc . They communication seems overly friendly, and he defends rayn even, against me .
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:just ignore the parts about rayn but the LIST by gb is very suspicious bc its bad lol On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
I just can't argue more than I did anymore. let's be honest you haven't argued shit about lynching Trfel after the first 4h into the game.. He hasn't posted anymore? So are you willing to listen to me now?
???????????????????????? mafia slip ?
i noticed they usually post at the same time, and so far theyve been accusing everybody but each other, at least with actual quotes and logic etc
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Uhh ignore the rayn stuff, just look at that list GB posted , its rly bad therefore suspicious , also i typed this somewhere above on accident lol
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i remember this post vaguely. you've posted it before, haven't you? nothing's happened between then and now?
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Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow
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On October 01 2015 07:19 GlowingBear wrote:
I am lynching cool TL
I am lynching Damdred if he doesn't die tonight
So fucking unpleasant
On October 01 2015 07:20 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 07:18 Damdred wrote:
I'm upset with balance and now I'm going to die, If you're town you have no idea if the balance is okay I'm also lynching rsoultin
this lynch order is fairly incriminating
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On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow
marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here
assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead
nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh
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On October 01 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:36 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game. But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort. no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before. i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it. why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now? I am not sure what you are talking about? I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it. I find these 2 posts together extremely suspicious indeed
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia
post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?
it really makes no sense at all to me There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do. As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia. the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh.
On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
i want to lynch Trfel.
i don't believe he can believe what he is saying.
page 129 130 he goes after trfel
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On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..  3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival. Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game. I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute. I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him. Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread? OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him
so i think this is the worst reason to lynch me, everyone else had decent reasons
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On October 02 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
On October 01 2015 23:36 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 23:25 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 23:23 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 17:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 01 2015 11:43 Trfel wrote:
Marvellosity is more than capable of playing like this as mafia, and that would very nicely explain a lot of things, but after rolling mafia last game that just feels so unlikely that I think I'm willing to ignore that possibility for now.
Prove this shit-tastic statement please. find one game as mafia where i play *remotely* similar to this. otherwise your opinions are basically worthless piles of crap because you're just saying things that i already know are blatantly false. i want you to actually go find a game where i did anything remotely similar to this game. off you toddle now. I could look through the entire database to try and find a game. But that's pointless? There's no reason why you couldn't play like this. You know that you generally don't aggressively push a read early on as mafia, you said it yourself. But there's nothing that actually stops you from doing that, other than effort. no, i am completely incapable because i have a million mafia games and have tried to replicate such things before. i've been playing pretty constantly for 3 and a half years and come nowhere near managing it. why on earth do you think i could suddenly manage it now? I am not sure what you are talking about? I'm referring to the part where you made an early push on rsoultin and said that you'd never ever done an early push as mafia. There is zero reason why you couldn't do an early push as mafia, if I am capable of it, then you are definitely capable of it. I find these 2 posts together extremely suspicious indeed Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 02 2015 00:02 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia
post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start?
it really makes no sense at all to me There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do. As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia. the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh. Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
i want to lynch Trfel.
i don't believe he can believe what he is saying. page 129 130 he goes after trfel
and retracted if you read on
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On October 02 2015 12:51 coolTLname wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia.. 3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival. Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game. I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute. I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him. Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread? OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him so i think this is the worst reason to lynch me, everyone else had decent reasons
do you think rels is mafia for this, though?
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On October 02 2015 13:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 12:51 coolTLname wrote:On October 02 2015 05:06 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia.. 3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival. Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game. I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute. I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him. Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread? OK rayn you were right he is a fucking smurf. We lynch him so i think this is the worst reason to lynch me, everyone else had decent reasons do you think rels is mafia for this, though?
no i dont know enough. Anyway i literally just read from night 1 and i could not find that fucking role hunting 101 person. Fuck it mustve been when i racked up 7 votes. Ughhhhhhh oh well i need to read anyway
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ima start with the guy who role claimd mafia at the beginning. u adrenaline junkies probably love doing something like that.
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I thought you were scum reading me cool now you think scum GB is going after me? Talk to me about that progression
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