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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 12 2015 23:06 GMT
#1017
idek who to push tho. like vivax has been admittedly apathetic in his posts and i've already said that i'd sheep kels/celestial. but i really think there are things that'll make obviousone scummy.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 12 2015 23:07 GMT
#1021
the thing is that mislynching marv when he's town is basically a waste when he's an auto-NK lol. i also don't really think he's mafia although the fact that he's not around deadline when he promised is o-o
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 12 2015 23:08 GMT
#1024
i'm just gonna keep my vote on obviousone. i doubt i'll live but who knows?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 12 2015 23:38 GMT
#1031
On October 13 2015 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Actually, yeah, let’s hit up that ObviousOne lynch.

- early and unnecessarily prickly/sarcastic responses
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On October 10 2015 22:21 ObviousOne wrote:
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On October 10 2015 20:55 Stoicism_ wrote:
On October 10 2015 20:41 ObviousOne wrote:
On October 10 2015 20:00 Stoicism_ wrote:
On October 10 2015 19:54 ObviousOne wrote:
Good morning from the east coast of the United States. It has been quite some time since that last time I played mafia here. I'm going to try to write fewer, longer posts for two reasons this game: 1) the conversational style necessitates checking the thread very often and I just bought Cities: Skylines which literally makes hours disappear into the void, and 2) I literally don't want to further encourage entire pages of single line posts that end up with 200+ page games.

With all that out of the way, I would like to say hello again to some, and to welcome newer players.



Hello =)

If I were to engage you in conversation, would you avoid it to maintain your 'fewer, longer' posts strategy, or will you indulge me?


Why did you take a long break from mafia?

I will indulge of course when I return to analyse and contribute if the question is still relevant at the time, but will include the response as part of the one or two posts I make at that time. Posting less often but with more content should help to both consolidate my thoughts and continue to take the long view of the game over time. It plays well into my typical starting strategy which relies more heavily process of elimination and goes through many iterations.

Regarding my break, I stopped playing because I wasn't having fun. The threads get really long and reading them was tedious. Also, I used to be able to participate conversationally when I would go outside for a cigarette and I no longer smoke, meaning fewer check-ins. Coincidentally quitting cigarettes also kind of changed who I was a little bit, in a way that was real but also inexplicable, and I stopped enjoying some of the things I use to love and vice versa. I did play a few games on another site in the interim but the activity there is borderline (think maybe 200 posts for a day 1) which is really easy to keep up with and was a decent place to utilize my POE strategy without feeling like I couldn't contribute.


How frequently can we expect these one or two posts at a time? daily?


There may come a time where if I cant get a read off of your large walls of posts, ill need to engage you in some conversational style posting. Thats part of my process and how I form reads.

It's the first sentence of my response. You didn't even have to read the whole wall of text you could just have read the first sentence. Spooky. "When I return" + "one or two posts at that time". Unless you're asking me when I'm coming back to the thread, in which case I can give you a detailed schedule and link you to my google calendar so you can know when I'm at the movies or masturbating, if that's what you want. Heh.



- his explanation for being prickly is weird because he thought that Stoicism_ was going at him when he was actually asking an innocuous question. He also stresses that he's town for some reason:
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On October 11 2015 03:05 ObviousOne wrote:
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On October 11 2015 03:01 Eversince wrote:
Mmk. I just find his introduction curious. 

Coming in, saying "hello" or whatever is whatever.
Many have done it this game (and I'm sure many others).
That isn't the issue I have with it.

Here, an example;
First couple post->

"Hi! my name is ES, let us have fun!"
"I have x opinions for y reasons"
"Explaining previous opinions posted for misunderstandings."

vs

"Hi! I want to know who the heck is getting advice from the same dude I am!"
refute
"No mate, I didn't mean to break x,y,z rules! I'll go ahead and just go away for a while"

Which makes more sense per role for you?
 

A long time ago when I first started playing here, Vivax had quite the silly streak. That went away after a while. Maybe he's just having a bit of silly-mode in the vein of meta-game, this being a game with coaches. In any case, I agree it's not alignment indicative but I appreciate the thought you've given it.

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On October 10 2015 22:40 Stoicism_ wrote:
On October 10 2015 22:21 ObviousOne wrote:
On October 10 2015 20:55 Stoicism_ wrote:
On October 10 2015 20:41 ObviousOne wrote:
On October 10 2015 20:00 Stoicism_ wrote:
On October 10 2015 19:54 ObviousOne wrote:
Good morning from the east coast of the United States. It has been quite some time since that last time I played mafia here. I'm going to try to write fewer, longer posts for two reasons this game: 1) the conversational style necessitates checking the thread very often and I just bought Cities: Skylines which literally makes hours disappear into the void, and 2) I literally don't want to further encourage entire pages of single line posts that end up with 200+ page games.

With all that out of the way, I would like to say hello again to some, and to welcome newer players.



Hello =)

If I were to engage you in conversation, would you avoid it to maintain your 'fewer, longer' posts strategy, or will you indulge me?


Why did you take a long break from mafia?

I will indulge of course when I return to analyse and contribute if the question is still relevant at the time, but will include the response as part of the one or two posts I make at that time. Posting less often but with more content should help to both consolidate my thoughts and continue to take the long view of the game over time. It plays well into my typical starting strategy which relies more heavily process of elimination and goes through many iterations.

Regarding my break, I stopped playing because I wasn't having fun. The threads get really long and reading them was tedious. Also, I used to be able to participate conversationally when I would go outside for a cigarette and I no longer smoke, meaning fewer check-ins. Coincidentally quitting cigarettes also kind of changed who I was a little bit, in a way that was real but also inexplicable, and I stopped enjoying some of the things I use to love and vice versa. I did play a few games on another site in the interim but the activity there is borderline (think maybe 200 posts for a day 1) which is really easy to keep up with and was a decent place to utilize my POE strategy without feeling like I couldn't contribute.


How frequently can we expect these one or two posts at a time? daily?


There may come a time where if I cant get a read off of your large walls of posts, ill need to engage you in some conversational style posting. Thats part of my process and how I form reads.

It's the first sentence of my response. You didn't even have to read the whole wall of text you could just have read the first sentence. Spooky. "When I return" +  "one or two posts at that time". Unless you're asking me when I'm coming back to the thread, in which case I can give you a detailed schedule and link you to my google calendar so you can know when I'm at the movies or masturbating, if that's what you want. Heh.



Maybe I was being optimistic by hoping 'When I return' would occur more than once a day.

Why are you so prickly?



And sure I'll take a copy of your schedule.

Prickly seems to be my natural state. It's also something that happens when people come at me when I'm town.

Obviously if you dislike my activity levels you might try to have me lynched for it as is your right to suggest, but I'm not sure why it's a topic of discussion mere hours into the game. You could just wait and see. Promising that I'm going to post X amount of times is quite silly.



- easy townread on me shows he's not reading the thread because I'm actually actively lurking
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On October 11 2015 10:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Just gonna pop through four filters in order on the list.

Onegu: liking how comfortable he seems with the thread. Can possibly agree with gumdrop lynch but willing to extend benefit of the doubt regarding gumdrop to see what is said. Would not lynch.

Gumdrop: waiting for the return of the jedi. Could lynch.

Eversince: I understand the confusion with vivax she has. Vivax has seemed to finally switched off his troll mode from speed reading the thread. Thinking that Vivax was intentionally trying to disrupt things by saying nothing is natural for someone not familiar with him. Let's see where Vivax goes from here. Would not lynch.

TheShining: AWOL

Okay, I guess I'll do a few more this is easy.

Kelsiersc: Sheeping Onegu on the gumdrop thing entirely. Gumdrop would definitely be a convenient target for scum in this scenario and sheeping keeps any potential backlash off KSC. Also the Moosy feel for his other scum read is basically a reply to my post regarding activity. Seems picked out at random and the post overall has very little conviction. Potential lynch candidate.

Celestial: voting the AWOL guy. Has a big paragraph by my name that could have just said NAI. [association based on unflipped players ahead has KSC, the other guy I find scummy, in his leaning town list. Potential lynch candidate.

Fecal: unremarkable at this moment other than the obvious vivax stuff. Probably not a lynch candidate.

Marv: being marv, not ready to say anything just yet.

Sicklucker: seems pretty happy with himself and situation. Spouting off. I like it. Not a lynch candidate.

Stoicism: seemed pretty interested in me, really wanted to interact with me but hasn't shown up since our little scuffle. Seemed like he was trying to have a conversation about nothing with me. Potential lynch candidate.

Moosy: actually some good feels, though potential helpful-townie-scummer vibe but not really likely. Not a lynch candidate.

So there you go. Scumreads: KSC/Celestial and one of stoic/shining/gumdrop. If I were to vote right now it would be KSC so I will do just that.

##vote KelsierSC

Okay that's what I got. Gonna watch some TV now.

You're welcome.



- weird focus on Stoicism_ read when I was remarking on a general trend in ObviousOne's list post. Then he goes on to pointedly remove Stoicism_ from his lynch list.
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On October 11 2015 10:21 ObviousOne wrote:
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On October 11 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ObviousOne, why are you so focused on people talking about you or at you.

In what way do you mean. If youre talking about my comment regarding stoic it's that he was pretty up in my face about me being accessible to him, which of course stemmed from him not being to read my post properly in the first place, and ended up not being here all day anyway.

On October 12 2015 01:48 ObviousOne wrote:
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On October 11 2015 17:21 Onegu wrote:
On October 11 2015 10:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 11 2015 10:31 -Celestial- wrote:
On October 11 2015 10:08 ObviousOne wrote:

Celestial: voting the AWOL guy. Has a big paragraph by my name that could have just said NAI. [association based on unflipped players ahead has KSC, the other guy I find scummy, in his leaning town list. Potential lynch candidate.


Er...you might want to check again. I've not actually voted for anyone yet. I got scumfeel on Gumdrop, Vivax and marvellosity but no vote.

Please don't lie.

Good eye, I didn't fact check any of the list as it felt very half-assed.

##unvote
##vote ObviousOne



Why does scum OO lie about that though. Unless your point is being he is just making shit up, but from the rest of his post I don't get that sense.

Celestial is looking townie for that huge post but why it has KSC as more town than myself I will never know.

I don't like moosy right now, his jump on gumdrop felt really opportunistic to me.

I still don't like gumdrops entrance at all, and KSC follow up vote was fine for pressure but when mossy jumped on it it just felt wrong to me.

Marv has until 24 hours to impress me before my vote goes on him for being lazy which is something town marv wouldn't do in a newbie game.

Also @celestial didn't we just play in a game and I claimed VT and we went through the same thing.


Scum OO tries very hard to be accurate as possible so there's no blowback early. I was in a rush to get around to watching a backlog of TV episodes so one "mistake" which relates to looking at things outside the context of the thread is the opposite of a scum tell for me.

In any case, Stoic is off my list for possible candidates for today.

I don't like excuses like "I was drunk" like if you can't just play when you're sober then you're mafia covering for your inactivity. KSC vote stays.

Agree that Marv's working his way to candidacy today.



- in light of his post about how he works to be as correct as possible, I think it's telling how he defends both FecalFeast and Shining. (I read FF as town and I'll believe that Shining is town for now)
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On October 13 2015 03:05 ObviousOne wrote:
Vivax still thinks I'm mafia? Interesting. None of the questions he's been asking me have led to alignment indicative answers within the subset of the game. Still no recorded vote. Low recent activity, distinct lack of scumhunting compared to what I think he's capable of. The stalemate with Marv conversation seems to all be for his own benefit.

Sicklucker totally okay with lynching Kelsier for no particular reasons. That's very alarming. He's voting for Vivax though, so hrm.

Moosy seems to be hanging on to a very strict interpretation of things to continue to dog on Shining. I'm curious about his attempting to convince Celestial very recently, when Celestial has already thrown his hat in favor of Shining and seems to see what the rest of us who think Shining is likely town see.

I'm happiest with the Moosy wagon to be honest.


Marv should live today. Move your votes.


Kelsier's reads are allegedly forthcoming. Nobody else seems to feel strongly about Kelsier being a lynch candidate, time to consolidate.
##unvote KelsierSC
##vote MoosyDoosy


This post is curiously strange. He provides no reason as to why Shining is town, remarks specifically on people scum reading him, and then finds a reason to vote me.

- Some of his posts seem like they're discussing something when they're really not.
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On October 12 2015 12:58 ObviousOne wrote:
When did the circus come into town?

Not wanting to vote for someone because one of your scum reads is voting for them, on day one, where a bus is largely unlikely, when you have a scum read on someone else that you consider equally valid, is totally okay in my book. This tunneling shining into rage is really out of this world. Wow. Sincerely.

Instead of being antagonizing, honest level-headed questions would get you a lot farther. The responses I got from Shining were decent enough and there wasn't any vitriol that I could sense.


Equally, how many people have actually voted for you Shining? There's still many hours until the lynch and Marv is a much more likely majority candidate because the tells we have make it almost a sure thing he's mafia unless he comes back glowing green like the Hulk. Your fate isn't set in stone so getting too upset is only damaging to your cause. Like I said before, if things get emotionally charged, take a short break to collect your thoughts, think about what's going on and why it's happening.

For instance, maybe Eversince is a super clever mafia player. This total antagonistic dialogue she has engaged in with you is not a healthy town player attitude. And it didn't seem to stop after the break she took. The assault continues. There's no town reason not to try to level with you on in a logical discussion, and it's breaking my town read of her because I'm particularly sensitive to the same kind of issue you're dealing with having been there multiple times.


When you look over this post again, it really just says a whole lot of nothing relevant to the thread.

On October 13 2015 07:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 13 2015 07:27 sicklucker wrote:
On October 13 2015 07:03 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote ObviousOne


wanna see if SL puts his vote where his mouth is


i would vote to save moosy but id rather other people over him. his filter is full of big words so maybe he tricked me. I can say his votes and voting reasons do not make alot of sense. along with his read progresion on that other guy I cant remember. Not the worst lnch

I mean, he did make up a BS reason to vote me, never explained why he thought Shining was town from the exchange, and made plenty of posts that actually say nothing. It's also strange how I was in his no lynch pile but somehow ended up being his strongest scum read. Also a bit intriguing that he formulates his reads on a very shallow level even thinking that I'm town when I was actively lurking. hm. Didn't like his play at all tbh.

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 12 2015 23:44 GMT
#1033
I just realized that I'm so associated with Vivax at this point it's almost like we're married now.

o-o
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 12 2015 23:47 GMT
#1035
On October 13 2015 08:45 The Shining wrote:
I mean, does scum tell me on more than one occasion to cool down and take a quick breather from the thread to not get tilted, and also defend me when Moosy was tunneling me? Knowing my alignment, he could just easily have sheeped onto my wagon instead of onto Moosy's.

Are you saying his defenses of both me and FF are TMI and pocket attempts then? Does scum really do this twice on D1?

And yeah Vivax, it didn't kind of pile on with much sense which is why I don't feel comfortable on it anymore. If I'm being totally honest, it was a mixture of OMGUS and thinking this tunnel into me and knowing my alignment means scum REALLY wants me lynched. But that's dumb cuz I'm prime lynchbait rn anyway and I'm not sure scumMoosy would incriminate himself by tunneling my mislynch this hard.

I tunneled my own scummate CopCake to China and back. Does that help alleviate your worries?

But to be serious, if we're talking associations, where is my scum team working to save me? Unless it's Vivax/sicklucker which is way too glaringly obvious, I'm just kind of estranged in my little lynch island.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:02 GMT
#1057
No. It's ObviousOne. Vote him.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:03 GMT
#1058
He failed to see that Shining was angry way before I really started tunneling on him and he used this as a bullshit excuse to try and vote me. On top of that he really gave no reason to townread Shining but went after me since that was thread sentiment.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:05 GMT
#1063
Now ObviousOne comes back, doesn't even talk about why he thinks I'm town but just sheeps thread sentiment? Nah, I'm not about that life. ##vote ObviousOne DO IT
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:07 GMT
#1068
There is no reason to shenanny onto kSC he is likely town. I don't even know why you guys are trying to lynch Onegu. So what he's one of the first people to think my tunnel is strange and votes me off of it. So what he's not around to change his read. There's already someone else who joined the wagon late and is all of a sudden switching his reads again. OBVIOUSONE
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:09 GMT
#1073
kSC is involved in the thread and more active than he would ever try to be as Mafia. He even went so far as to answer questions which he normally never does. kSC is likely town.

Onegu was one of the first people to think my tunnel was strange and voted me. ok. But you can't scum read him for not changing his read when he's literally not around to reconsider.

ObviousOne joined my wagon late, gave a bullshit reason for it, never gave a reason to townread Shining, and is now changing his reads abruptly without a reason.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:11 GMT
#1075
On October 13 2015 09:09 ObviousOne wrote:
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On October 13 2015 09:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Now ObviousOne comes back, doesn't even talk about why he thinks I'm town but just sheeps thread sentiment? Nah, I'm not about that life. ##vote ObviousOne DO IT

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On October 13 2015 09:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
He failed to see that Shining was angry way before I really started tunneling on him and he used this as a bullshit excuse to try and vote me. On top of that he really gave no reason to townread Shining but went after me since that was thread sentiment.


It was never about the anger.
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Moosy seems to be hanging on to a very strict interpretation of things to continue to dog on Shining. I'm curious about his attempting to convince Celestial very recently, when Celestial has already thrown his hat in favor of Shining and seems to see what the rest of us who think Shining is likely town see.


It's literally about how you can't see any possible reason for Shining to be town. A strict misinterpretation to suit your agenda.

Yeah, and this is just false. Either way, Shining DID make a rather bad play so there's no reason to say otherwise. No, that's a bullshit reason to have tried and scum read me.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:16 GMT
#1083
lynching marv is such a waste. he's too dangerous of a player for scum to keep alive.

ObviousOne is just throwing his vote around at this point with little purpose right now.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:17 GMT
#1086
FecalFeast, try to care and switch to ObviousOne. I still have not heard one good reason from ObviousOne as to why I was scum and as to why he's townreading me all of a sudden.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:19 GMT
#1090
On October 13 2015 09:18 ObviousOne wrote:
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On October 13 2015 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
lynching marv is such a waste. he's too dangerous of a player for scum to keep alive.

ObviousOne is just throwing his vote around at this point with little purpose right now.

You want me to beleive you are town so I switch my vote because I can understand that you might just be bad town and not mafia and so I move my vote somewhere that has a better shot at hitting mafia due to meta-reasons and behavioral tells (marv not showing up, ergo not caring enough to participate at this critical point) and that's bad? Seriously don't vote marv and let me die so I can end this torment.

That last line is very faked.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:21 GMT
#1092
On October 13 2015 09:19 The Shining wrote:
Like I don't like the defense of not lynching Marv being "oh he's top NK". What will all you knuckleheads do or say if he ISN'T NKd?

If he isn't NK'd the first few days that means marv has already lynched a few scum or marv is scum himself. He just cannot be bothered to care to do anything if he is scum. Look at Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia where he just kind of keeled over.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:24 GMT
#1096
marv is probably town right now. And saying I'm pushing onto another wagon off of marv is false because I've been pushing OO before I switched onto you and now I'm just back on OO.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:33 GMT
#1105
Read P2/P3 of marv's filter. I liked the way he reasoned his reads together and his tone.

Also, it's completely different to say that I'm going onto OO to push a wagon off of marv than to say me going onto OO is pushing a wagon off of marv.

The reason I'd rather not lynch marv D1 is because he's respected as a townie player but really dislikes playing Mafia. So if he doesn't do anything, marv is likely Mafia but if he's town, it's a big mistake for Mafia to let him live which is why they'll probably kill him early.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:37 GMT
#1108
Okay, this is what I am trying to say.

OO is scum so I'm trying to get you all to vote for him. I townread kSC, Onegu's vote on me is in no way “an easy switch” because he was one of the first people on me and there's no way for him to switch his read when he's not even here, and marv will figure himself out over time. This is why I'd rather not have counterwagons on these people.

If there were to be a counterwagon, I'd prefer it be me or Stoicism_.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 00:44 GMT
#1125
Sigh go ahead and vote for Stoicism_ if you must.
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