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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 20:44 GMT
#1861
Demon: Every night you will learn the targets of the Inquisitor and the Oracle. You will not know which target was targeted by whom.

My problem in this game is there are too many dumbtells i cannot believe they are all town.....
table for two on a tv tray
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 21 2015 20:45 GMT
#1862
rayn are you mafia with HTS and steamrolling this shit? I've got tinfoil syndrome real bad
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 21 2015 20:45 GMT
#1863
On September 22 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Demon: Every night you will learn the targets of the Inquisitor and the Oracle. You will not know which target was targeted by whom.

My problem in this game is there are too many dumbtells i cannot believe they are all town.....

lol

I'm just dumb. No tells.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 20:46 GMT
#1864
On September 22 2015 05:43 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No you'd rather want to tell us why you said you are catching up and giving thoughts in the mean time and then doing nothing...


IDK if this was to me but... I made a decision to try to play some Sunday night. It didn't work out and id rather have sex tbh during my trip than read words.

Well you'd definitely have sex if you were any alignment so yeah there is that...
Hope you had good sex.
table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 20:46 GMT
#1865
On September 22 2015 05:43 Fidei86 wrote:
This question might have been answered already, but just in case it hasn't - didn't we agree that we wanted the cop to check Damdred, so that silence would exonerate him? Did we have a cop check I missed?


there was subsequent discussion regarding soup kills that people were debating where even with a red check, mafia would soup DT and Vivax for one mafia. (paraphrasing)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 20:47 GMT
#1866
On September 22 2015 05:39 Damdred wrote:
Hi I just got home.

I guess I actually have yo give my excuse why I was so afk? With everything that's happened the past year and a half my wife being hurt, my knee etc. We decided it was an amazing idea to renew our vows and take a second honey moon. Which is why I've been away for so long and distracted planning that and being with my guests (120). I thought I would have more time to play but yeah just didn't materialize.

Snyway I'll give last minute thoughts before I die.

alright
waiting for your reads
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 20:48 GMT
#1867
On September 22 2015 01:09 Damdred wrote:
I will be around in 2-5 hours. I'm driving home now so just a small amount of patience I really don't want to tell why I've been so busy the past week to influence the game in that regard.

But I don't think I believe ls claim anyway


Since you didn't play Final Jeopardy yesterday, perhaps you can do so again tonight.

The category is "Why You Don't Believe LS's Claim"

The question is regarding the above statement and why you do not believe LS's claim.

What are the points that you dispute?

And finally who else is mafia in your world?

You have one minute to answer.



Okay, last part about the minute was in jest, but you get the idea...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 20:48 GMT
#1868
Ah. Thanks.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 21 2015 20:49 GMT
#1869
I want to kill rels
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 20:49 GMT
#1870
On September 22 2015 05:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 01:09 Damdred wrote:
I will be around in 2-5 hours. I'm driving home now so just a small amount of patience I really don't want to tell why I've been so busy the past week to influence the game in that regard.

But I don't think I believe ls claim anyway


Since you didn't play Final Jeopardy yesterday, perhaps you can do so again tonight.

The category is "Why You Don't Believe LS's Claim"

The question is regarding the above statement and why you do not believe LS's claim.

What are the points that you dispute?

And finally who else is mafia in your world?

You have one minute to answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lLYOGDsts

Okay, last part about the minute was in jest, but you get the idea...

LOL
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 20:49 GMT
#1871
On September 22 2015 05:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I want to kill rels

reasons ?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 21 2015 20:50 GMT
#1872
On September 21 2015 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It comes down to this here basically:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you seem to be really sure that Damdred and James are mafia.
Somehow you insist we lynch Damdred over James, when there is absolutely no reason to.
Then you don't know who is the third mafia and apparently you don't even care.
Why? Why this all?


First:
Rels thinks it is obvious Damdred and James are mafia. Fair enough.
For some reason he insists we lynch Damdred over James. Why? It doesn't make any sense as he is sure both of them are mafia.

Second:
Then we talk about tictock.
Rels has a townread on him.
but he cannot lay out a single reason why he has a town read on him.
He has meta points, he doesn't clarify them.
He has also bad points that actually make more sense from scum than town perspective (see the middle of the quote below.
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
Yeah he is scummy as town, I thought he was mafia the last game too for a while. But he's playing exactly the same

so what does he do as mafia?
Why would he questioned confirmed town (Vivax) and universally townread (you) if he was mafia ?

i think the better question is why would he do that as town? i don't think questioning me is alignment indicative, questioning Vivax definitely is.
And he tryhard the whole D1, he was even the first to do so. I agree he needs to continue doing that starting now though

Again, what does he do as mafia then?

Being dumb or scummy is NOT a towntell..

Here is what he actually does say about him.
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:
now I'm not going to do a town case on TT unless he is getting lynched and I still think he is town

None of this makes any sense because if Rels thinks TT is town, Rels should be arguing why he is town.
It helps the town in PoE. I think it is more likely he doesn't actually have any reasons to think TT is town, because the reasons he has laid out are not really reasons...


Third thing is this:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

He can't lay out reasons why either of FF/TT is mafia.
It's not uncommon in itself, but he doesn't even care. He doesn't read HtS scum either.
Like in his world (not counting my next point), FF basically HAS to be mafia if TT is not, but instead of figuring it out by himself he trusts HtS' meta read on him........ It doesn't make any sense because again, if TT is strong town!!! he is DEFINITELY missing something and then it is most likely HtS meta read. But instead he doesn't care. At all.

Last thing;
Okay the point before could be understood if this;
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

.... was true.
That would mean Rels reads me as scum (as i think the quote says, because it makes no sense to not list Vivax here otherwise). But apparently he doesnt. Apparently he doesn't read BM mafia either, because if he did he would be arguing he is the third mafia. Apparently he doesn't read HtS mafia either, which is quite clear from his posts.

So, given all this, he basically has to think FF is the last mafia given that he has a strong townread on TT (over BM and HtS both). There is literally no other possible answer.

But again, his answer is;
Show nested quote +
I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

So they guy basically has 100% PoE'd FF as last mafia but calls him town because of someone else's meta read.
no no no.

It is almost 100% certain Rels fucked up at some point when talking with me (i think it's the point where he called TT strongest town after me and LS - and couldn't just explain properly anymore). The fact is he is contradicting himself, and for the person who says he is being scumhunting all game long it doesn't make any fucking sense that NOW, suddenly NOW he really doesn't care about scumhunting anymore. (yes he really doesn't, i think i have pointed that out clearly).

+ the fact i brought up on D1;
It is a minor point but i think it still stands. Here;
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is nothing fucking weird in that. Two arguably the most experienced players in this game have a really strong scumread on LS and basically no read on Dandel and you decide to lynch Dandel.

That is weird, not my concerns on you.

I actaully think Rels is trying to push a mislynch on Damdred who is inactive for whatever reason. He knows LS is gonna claim on D2 because i WILL be pushing him for his play and LS doesn't listen / think properly.
His play doesn't make any sense otherwise (another point on my argument on the James/Damdred thing).

Rels is scum. Nothing in his play on D2 makes any sense.
He has only been interested in people who he should not be interested in (except for BM, but that didn't go anywhere). After that, he just doesn't care about people he should care about (TT/FF).


I like this for the record.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 20:50 GMT
#1873
wow... shit gets interesting.-
table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 20:51 GMT
#1874
On September 22 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
rayn are you mafia with HTS and steamrolling this shit? I've got tinfoil syndrome real bad


You'd need a shittonne of tinfoil to justify that...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 20:51 GMT
#1875
sheeping rayn just in case my house gets hit by a runaway train in the next hour.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 20:51 GMT
#1876
On September 22 2015 05:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It comes down to this here basically:
On September 21 2015 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you seem to be really sure that Damdred and James are mafia.
Somehow you insist we lynch Damdred over James, when there is absolutely no reason to.
Then you don't know who is the third mafia and apparently you don't even care.
Why? Why this all?


First:
Rels thinks it is obvious Damdred and James are mafia. Fair enough.
For some reason he insists we lynch Damdred over James. Why? It doesn't make any sense as he is sure both of them are mafia.

Second:
Then we talk about tictock.
Rels has a townread on him.
but he cannot lay out a single reason why he has a town read on him.
He has meta points, he doesn't clarify them.
He has also bad points that actually make more sense from scum than town perspective (see the middle of the quote below.
On September 21 2015 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
Yeah he is scummy as town, I thought he was mafia the last game too for a while. But he's playing exactly the same

so what does he do as mafia?
Why would he questioned confirmed town (Vivax) and universally townread (you) if he was mafia ?

i think the better question is why would he do that as town? i don't think questioning me is alignment indicative, questioning Vivax definitely is.
And he tryhard the whole D1, he was even the first to do so. I agree he needs to continue doing that starting now though

Again, what does he do as mafia then?

Being dumb or scummy is NOT a towntell..

Here is what he actually does say about him.
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

On September 21 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:
now I'm not going to do a town case on TT unless he is getting lynched and I still think he is town

None of this makes any sense because if Rels thinks TT is town, Rels should be arguing why he is town.
It helps the town in PoE. I think it is more likely he doesn't actually have any reasons to think TT is town, because the reasons he has laid out are not really reasons...


Third thing is this:
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

On September 21 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

He can't lay out reasons why either of FF/TT is mafia.
It's not uncommon in itself, but he doesn't even care. He doesn't read HtS scum either.
Like in his world (not counting my next point), FF basically HAS to be mafia if TT is not, but instead of figuring it out by himself he trusts HtS' meta read on him........ It doesn't make any sense because again, if TT is strong town!!! he is DEFINITELY missing something and then it is most likely HtS meta read. But instead he doesn't care. At all.

Last thing;
Okay the point before could be understood if this;
On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

.... was true.
That would mean Rels reads me as scum (as i think the quote says, because it makes no sense to not list Vivax here otherwise). But apparently he doesnt. Apparently he doesn't read BM mafia either, because if he did he would be arguing he is the third mafia. Apparently he doesn't read HtS mafia either, which is quite clear from his posts.

So, given all this, he basically has to think FF is the last mafia given that he has a strong townread on TT (over BM and HtS both). There is literally no other possible answer.

But again, his answer is;
I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

So they guy basically has 100% PoE'd FF as last mafia but calls him town because of someone else's meta read.
no no no.

It is almost 100% certain Rels fucked up at some point when talking with me (i think it's the point where he called TT strongest town after me and LS - and couldn't just explain properly anymore). The fact is he is contradicting himself, and for the person who says he is being scumhunting all game long it doesn't make any fucking sense that NOW, suddenly NOW he really doesn't care about scumhunting anymore. (yes he really doesn't, i think i have pointed that out clearly).

+ the fact i brought up on D1;
It is a minor point but i think it still stands. Here;
On September 20 2015 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is nothing fucking weird in that. Two arguably the most experienced players in this game have a really strong scumread on LS and basically no read on Dandel and you decide to lynch Dandel.

That is weird, not my concerns on you.

I actaully think Rels is trying to push a mislynch on Damdred who is inactive for whatever reason. He knows LS is gonna claim on D2 because i WILL be pushing him for his play and LS doesn't listen / think properly.
His play doesn't make any sense otherwise (another point on my argument on the James/Damdred thing).

Rels is scum. Nothing in his play on D2 makes any sense.
He has only been interested in people who he should not be interested in (except for BM, but that didn't go anywhere). After that, he just doesn't care about people he should care about (TT/FF).


I like this for the record.

mm that's true it's a super good case
maybe I should think of answering it point by point
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 20:52 GMT
#1877
On September 22 2015 05:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 05:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 21 2015 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It comes down to this here basically:
On September 21 2015 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you seem to be really sure that Damdred and James are mafia.
Somehow you insist we lynch Damdred over James, when there is absolutely no reason to.
Then you don't know who is the third mafia and apparently you don't even care.
Why? Why this all?


First:
Rels thinks it is obvious Damdred and James are mafia. Fair enough.
For some reason he insists we lynch Damdred over James. Why? It doesn't make any sense as he is sure both of them are mafia.

Second:
Then we talk about tictock.
Rels has a townread on him.
but he cannot lay out a single reason why he has a town read on him.
He has meta points, he doesn't clarify them.
He has also bad points that actually make more sense from scum than town perspective (see the middle of the quote below.
On September 21 2015 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
Yeah he is scummy as town, I thought he was mafia the last game too for a while. But he's playing exactly the same

so what does he do as mafia?
Why would he questioned confirmed town (Vivax) and universally townread (you) if he was mafia ?

i think the better question is why would he do that as town? i don't think questioning me is alignment indicative, questioning Vivax definitely is.
And he tryhard the whole D1, he was even the first to do so. I agree he needs to continue doing that starting now though

Again, what does he do as mafia then?

Being dumb or scummy is NOT a towntell..

Here is what he actually does say about him.
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

On September 21 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:
now I'm not going to do a town case on TT unless he is getting lynched and I still think he is town

None of this makes any sense because if Rels thinks TT is town, Rels should be arguing why he is town.
It helps the town in PoE. I think it is more likely he doesn't actually have any reasons to think TT is town, because the reasons he has laid out are not really reasons...


Third thing is this:
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

On September 21 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:40 Rels wrote:
Maybe I'm biaised because I think I can read him. I'll let him defend against what you said, and I'll also see if he starts being more active

Fine, then tell me why FF is mafia because that's basically what you are suggesting here and i don't see it.
His D1 is fucking strong.

I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

He can't lay out reasons why either of FF/TT is mafia.
It's not uncommon in itself, but he doesn't even care. He doesn't read HtS scum either.
Like in his world (not counting my next point), FF basically HAS to be mafia if TT is not, but instead of figuring it out by himself he trusts HtS' meta read on him........ It doesn't make any sense because again, if TT is strong town!!! he is DEFINITELY missing something and then it is most likely HtS meta read. But instead he doesn't care. At all.

Last thing;
Okay the point before could be understood if this;
On September 21 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehh so you basically think there is only 2 mafia in this game?
rofl-.

I'm not sure about the third
I'll lynch TT because of POE over you or LS, but I read him as town

.... was true.
That would mean Rels reads me as scum (as i think the quote says, because it makes no sense to not list Vivax here otherwise). But apparently he doesnt. Apparently he doesn't read BM mafia either, because if he did he would be arguing he is the third mafia. Apparently he doesn't read HtS mafia either, which is quite clear from his posts.

So, given all this, he basically has to think FF is the last mafia given that he has a strong townread on TT (over BM and HtS both). There is literally no other possible answer.

But again, his answer is;
I filter dove him yesterday looking for scumtells and I didn't find much. That's why I'm sheeping HTS' meta read of him being town

So they guy basically has 100% PoE'd FF as last mafia but calls him town because of someone else's meta read.
no no no.

It is almost 100% certain Rels fucked up at some point when talking with me (i think it's the point where he called TT strongest town after me and LS - and couldn't just explain properly anymore). The fact is he is contradicting himself, and for the person who says he is being scumhunting all game long it doesn't make any fucking sense that NOW, suddenly NOW he really doesn't care about scumhunting anymore. (yes he really doesn't, i think i have pointed that out clearly).

+ the fact i brought up on D1;
It is a minor point but i think it still stands. Here;
On September 20 2015 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is nothing fucking weird in that. Two arguably the most experienced players in this game have a really strong scumread on LS and basically no read on Dandel and you decide to lynch Dandel.

That is weird, not my concerns on you.

I actaully think Rels is trying to push a mislynch on Damdred who is inactive for whatever reason. He knows LS is gonna claim on D2 because i WILL be pushing him for his play and LS doesn't listen / think properly.
His play doesn't make any sense otherwise (another point on my argument on the James/Damdred thing).

Rels is scum. Nothing in his play on D2 makes any sense.
He has only been interested in people who he should not be interested in (except for BM, but that didn't go anywhere). After that, he just doesn't care about people he should care about (TT/FF).


I like this for the record.

mm that's true it's a super good case
maybe I should think of answering it point by point

you should
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 21 2015 20:53 GMT
#1878
On September 22 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 22 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
rayn are you mafia with HTS and steamrolling this shit? I've got tinfoil syndrome real bad


You'd need a shittonne of tinfoil to justify that...

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 20:53 GMT
#1879
FF let's see who do you not call mafia on this phase.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 21 2015 20:53 GMT
#1880
vivax on pg85 is nurturing my rayn tinfoil read tbh. HTS i only have 25m do you have any spare?
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